"Leon Fisk" wrote in message news:tq164u$2bmjq$2@dont-email.me...

On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:43:42 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

>I worked in communications security in the Army and later, and avoid WiFi.
>To any monitoring Feds, that's why I visit crypto-related sites.
>
>My surveillance cameras are hard-wired or trail cams, this laptop is
>physically tethered to the iPhone that links to cellular Internet, and I
>disconnect before using the laptop for other things, especially the income
>tax spreadsheet I wrote.

I'm not that fastidious, but I do somewhat keep an eye on what
my computer is doing...

Thought the way they tracked down the Washington Substation perps was
enlightening:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23560595-greenwood-and-crahan-complaint

Nowadays one should just assume that they are on camera being recorded
and most likely their location is being logged ;-)
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI

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The cellular system has to track (ping) the phone to know which cell you are
in, to receive calls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_tracking
"Alternatively tracking with both systems can also occur by having the phone
attain its GPS-location directly from the satellites, and then having the
information sent via the network to the person that is trying to locate the
telephone."

You can turn off civilian but not law enforcement tracking in Location.

"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

>>> ... ...

> ...
> This "post-industrial" society struggles to support more and
> more people on less and less created value.

That is a brilliant summary. I "caught this in the net" because I
have been looking for a way to say exactly this for some time.

FWIW - the need to say this is particularly necessary to characterise
Britain's situation now?

Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> writes:

>> Back when I was servicing manual and powered wheelchairs between
>> high tech R&D jobs an armrest pad that should cost $5 in Walmart
>> went for $50 when billed to Medicare.

>> ...

> ...
>
> My wife talks about being in med school and they literally used a
> Black & Decker drill for orthopedics, then later they were told it had
> to have a medical certification. The only difference was the color of
> the plastic... and the price. I may have the details off a little,
> but that is the gist of it.

Jim, Bob,

We commonly hold that with "the NHS" - the National Health Service -
we get twice as much for half as much.

A friend who is a major level consultant says it's actually
significantly to the better of that - significantly more than twice as
much for significantly less than half as much.

The bill each year is only excruciating because we produce f* all.
Back to Jim's point about the "post industrial" economy.

"Richard Smith" wrote in message news:ly3589magh.fsf@void.com...

Jim, Bob,

We commonly hold that with "the NHS" - the National Health Service -
we get twice as much for half as much.

A friend who is a major level consultant says it's actually
significantly to the better of that - significantly more than twice as
much for significantly less than half as much.

The bill each year is only excruciating because we produce f* all.
Back to Jim's point about the "post industrial" economy.

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There's a lot of noise about the problems of America because the freedom to
choose includes the freedom to choose unwisely. My medical insurance,
supposedly quite good, is paid for by the standard Part B deduction from
Social Security, which amounts to a few hours of a skilled tradesman's wages
per month.

Your time is the only stable measure of value. My father told me about his
youth during the Depression in the rural South, and how little he earned
logging and in the mills. I asked him to translate that into the hours to
earn the price of a shirt or loaf of bread, and it wasn't much different
than for me. As bad as the 1930's were, both parents had cars when the War
began.

When riding trains as a hobo he'd go to the poorest, blackest part of town
when hungry. The typically fat black mammy who answered the door always gave
him something to eat. The 'better' areas weren't as generous. That shouldn't
be forgotten.

That is very interesting and insightful comment in various ways.