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 `* Re: the addled secretary problemRichD
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An office cabinet holds 52 pairs of loose letters and
pre-printed envelopes (anybody remember those?).
Each letter is intended for its appropriate envelope,
and all distinct.

A clumsy secretary spills the cabinet, scattering
everything. The bimbo doesn't bother to sort things
out, but blindly stuffs letters into envelopes.

On average, how many letters end up mailed correctly?

--
Rich

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 by: Jasen Betts - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 07:57 UTC

On 2021-07-31, RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> An office cabinet holds 52 pairs of loose letters and
> pre-printed envelopes (anybody remember those?).
> Each letter is intended for its appropriate envelope,
> and all distinct.
>
> A clumsy secretary spills the cabinet, scattering
> everything. The bimbo doesn't bother to sort things
> out, but blindly stuffs letters into envelopes.
>
> On average, how many letters end up mailed correctly?

gotta be one (on average).

--
Jasen.

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 14:16 UTC

On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 07:57:22 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
<usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

>On 2021-07-31, RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> An office cabinet holds 52 pairs of loose letters and
>> pre-printed envelopes (anybody remember those?).
>> Each letter is intended for its appropriate envelope,
>> and all distinct.
>>
>> A clumsy secretary spills the cabinet, scattering
>> everything. The bimbo doesn't bother to sort things
>> out, but blindly stuffs letters into envelopes.
>>
>> On average, how many letters end up mailed correctly?
>
>gotta be one (on average).

Bimbo?

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The best designs are necessarily accidental.

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 by: RichD - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 23:02 UTC

On August 2, 2021, Jasen Betts wrote:
>> An office cabinet holds 52 pairs of loose letters and
>> pre-printed envelopes.
>> Each letter is intended for its appropriate envelope,
>> and all distinct.
>> A clumsy secretary spills the cabinet, scattering
>> everything. The bimbo doesn't bother to sort things
>> out, but blindly stuffs letters into envelopes.
>> On average, how many letters end up mailed correctly?
>
> gotta be one (on average).

Correct.
Though you might have guessed it, purely through puzzlemanship -

--
Rich

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 by: John Doe - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 23:09 UTC

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

> Jasen Betts wrote:
>> RichD wrote:

>>> An office cabinet holds 52 pairs of loose letters and
>>> pre-printed envelopes (anybody remember those?).
>>> Each letter is intended for its appropriate envelope,
>>> and all distinct.
>>>
>>> A clumsy secretary spills the cabinet, scattering
>>> everything. The bimbo doesn't bother to sort things
>>> out, but blindly stuffs letters into envelopes.
>>>
>>> On average, how many letters end up mailed correctly?
>>
>> gotta be one (on average).
>
> Bimbo?

Ask SWMBO.

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 by: Jasen Betts - Tue, 3 Aug 2021 08:07 UTC

On 2021-08-02, RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On August 2, 2021, Jasen Betts wrote:
>>> An office cabinet holds 52 pairs of loose letters and
>>> pre-printed envelopes.
>>> Each letter is intended for its appropriate envelope,
>>> and all distinct.
>>> A clumsy secretary spills the cabinet, scattering
>>> everything. The bimbo doesn't bother to sort things
>>> out, but blindly stuffs letters into envelopes.
>>> On average, how many letters end up mailed correctly?
>>
>> gotta be one (on average).
> Correct.
> Though you might have guessed it, purely through puzzlemanship -

It seems like the obvioius answer, althoigh the results are co-related
assuming each putative match to be independant gives on average 1

I did the arithmetic for 1, 2, and 3 pairs and saw that although there
are many no-match results, they are exactly compensated for by the multiple
match results, bringing the average back to 1

--
Jasen.

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