On 8/14/2021 9:44 AM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> I had a failing NVIDIA video card in a computer I reserve for PCB CAD-
> a tested used one was $23 delivered. The dual 30" monitors need
> dual-link DVI ports so a more modern one was not in the cards.

These monitors are often discarded, here. Folks hooking one up
(for test) to a generic PC end up seeing a very low resolution
image on a very large screen (wrong type of video card or cable).

That's how I rescued all of mine (not worth the hassle of trying to
educate people as to what you *need* to drive them).

In article <sf90up$g8i$1@dont-email.me>, blockedofcourse@foo.invalid
says...
>
> Technically, one is legally required (in most places) to voluntarily
> remit any sales taxes that were "avoided" to the state/city (transaction
> privilege tax, use tax, etc.).
>
>

North Carolina , my state, for many years in the past has a place on the
state tax form where one is suppose to report the tax on anything bought
through the mail or otherwise should be taxed. Very few people ever
bothered with that .

On 8/14/2021 11:50 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
>> Technically, one is legally required (in most places) to voluntarily
>> remit any sales taxes that were "avoided" to the state/city (transaction
>> privilege tax, use tax, etc.).
>
> North Carolina , my state, for many years in the past has a place on the
> state tax form where one is suppose to report the tax on anything bought
> through the mail or otherwise should be taxed. Very few people ever
> bothered with that .

I did it for my business -- thinking that it wasn't worth the
consequences for a few thousand dollars, if ever audited.

(of course, I also *deducted* the sale taxes from my income...)

In article <sf98km$31s$1@dont-email.me>, blockedofcourse@foo.invalid
says...
>
> I did it for my business -- thinking that it wasn't worth the
> consequences for a few thousand dollars, if ever audited.
>
> (of course, I also *deducted* the sale taxes from my income...)
>
>
>

Yes, for a business one must keep good records and make sure the tax men
get theirs. Seems that in NC one could charge the state so much for
colecting the sales tax, but I am not sure.

On 8/14/2021 2:01 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> In article <sf98km$31s$1@dont-email.me>, blockedofcourse@foo.invalid
> says...
>>
>> I did it for my business -- thinking that it wasn't worth the
>> consequences for a few thousand dollars, if ever audited.
>>
>> (of course, I also *deducted* the sale taxes from my income...)
>
> Yes, for a business one must keep good records and make sure the tax men
> get theirs. Seems that in NC one could charge the state so much for
> colecting the sales tax, but I am not sure.

In CT, sales tax was due on *services*, as well. So, to do business,
there, you had to open a bank account (through which your revenues would
pass) and provide that information to the state.

On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 13:07:26 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 8/14/2021 12:44 PM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 22:50:51 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's a decent source for vintage baseball cards, model trains, old
>>> radios and test equipment, and historical memorabilia and such, but I
>>> don't generally go there for things like adapter cables or video cards
>>> etc. except in pretty rare instances there are better sources for that
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> They do have some 5-disc Nakamichi SCSI CD-ROM changers that are pretty
>>> hard to come by anywhere else if you need that sort of thing.
>>
>> It's good for some stuff from China, sometimes you can find domestic
>> stock at a competitive price and delivery. Like UPS SLA batteries.
>> Expensive to ship by air, they'll stick them in a flat rate USPS box
>> or something.
>>
>> I could have got the PCB test jig a week or so faster direct from the
>> manufacturer China but it was a bit cheaper to get the exact same
>> product from an eBay middleman in Chino, California.
>>
>> I had a failing NVIDIA video card in a computer I reserve for PCB CAD-
>> a tested used one was $23 delivered. The dual 30" monitors need
>> dual-link DVI ports so a more modern one was not in the cards.
>>
>
>Which model Nvidia was it? GT 710s are $59 on Amazon, laughable by
>modern standards for vidya games but a nice boost over the integrated
>graphics in older PCs, unless it's old enough to only have AGP vs. 16x PCIe:
>
><https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GT-710-2GD3-LP/dp/B01DOFD0G8/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=nvidia%2B730&qid=1628960602&sr=8-6&th=1>

Quadro FX3700. Ancient but quite usable for 2D work.

--
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

On 8/14/2021 2:15 PM, Don Y wrote:
> On 8/14/2021 9:44 AM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>> I had a failing NVIDIA video card in a computer I reserve for PCB CAD-
>> a tested used one was $23 delivered. The dual 30" monitors need
>> dual-link DVI ports so a more modern one was not in the cards.
>
> These monitors are often discarded, here.  Folks hooking one up
> (for test) to a generic PC end up seeing a very low resolution
> image on a very large screen (wrong type of video card or cable).
>
> That's how I rescued all of mine (not worth the hassle of trying to
> educate people as to what you *need* to drive them).

I could use one of them for audio editing probably, what type of monitor
would I be looking for specifically to get a good deal like that?

On 8/14/2021 8:53 PM, bitrex wrote:
> On 8/14/2021 2:15 PM, Don Y wrote:
>> On 8/14/2021 9:44 AM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>>> I had a failing NVIDIA video card in a computer I reserve for PCB CAD-
>>> a tested used one was $23 delivered. The dual 30" monitors need
>>> dual-link DVI ports so a more modern one was not in the cards.
>>
>> These monitors are often discarded, here. Folks hooking one up
>> (for test) to a generic PC end up seeing a very low resolution
>> image on a very large screen (wrong type of video card or cable).
>>
>> That's how I rescued all of mine (not worth the hassle of trying to
>> educate people as to what you *need* to drive them).
>
> I could use one of them for audio editing probably, what type of monitor would
> I be looking for specifically to get a good deal like that?

Mine are Dell <mumblemumbles> (sorry, I can't easily access the backs of
any of mine to read the P/N with a magnifying glass :< ). Resolution is
2560x1600 IIRC. If you don't have the dual channel cable+GPU, the monitor
falls back to something like 640x480 (IIRC) -- atrociously low for a monitor
of that size.

[The monitor does not support multiple resolutions; those two are *all*!
Also, it doesn't have a built-in "source select" capability whereby you
can tie the outputs of multiple PCs to each monitor and use front panel
controls to select which source you're viewing -- this is how I share the
monitor bank between my EDA and CAD workstations]

They're also heavy. But will support a dell soundbar (which looks puny
when installed!)

Google *suggests* mine might be 3007WFP

<https://www.amazon.com/Dell-3007WFP-HC-Widescreen-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B001AO2QLG>

If you find one of questionable quality, disconnect the video
cable from the monitor *at* the monitor. Then, power on. It will
cycle through solid white, green, red, blue screens so you can verify
the inverter and CFLs are intact -- as well as look for bad pixels.
If the person you're buying it from thinks it is broken, you might
want to be discrete about running that test, lest you reveal it DOES
work!.

So, (here) folks would test the monitor (inappropriately) and discover
that it was "crap" (low res) -- big, but crap -- and put them in the
discard pile for me to "fix".

Realizing that selling them (perfectly functional) would just result in
lots of "returns" when folks got home and discovered they didn't
have the GPU or cable required, it was easier for us to just toss
them out (we don't have staff to spare on things like "returns").

[Of course, I can't bear to see things like this in the tip! :> ]

The drawback is their size. You can't have more than 2 wide
(dual monitors) or you find yourself swiveling your neck as
you try to look from the leftmost to the rightmost.

And, you can't have more than 1 high (can't stack them) for
similar reasons in the vertical axis.

Two (of anything) is a bit unfortunate as there's a "display seam"
directly in front of you. But, it's tolerable if you are working
on both monitors and not just one.

I opted to move down to 24" monitors on my CAD and ED stations
as I'd prefer three wide, there (I add a fourth up top for
displaying "reference materials" that I might need to consult
while doing <whatever>)

N.B. 2 high x 3 wide is a waste of real estate in virtually any
size monitor!