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* Deaths, gunshots reported at Kabul airport as chaos continuesFred Bloggs
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More joke government planning- which is no planning at all.

Those people are not mindlessly fleeing the Taliban. They know the Taliban has been compiling hit lists for over a decade, and they're probably on one.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/16/at-least-five-dead-at-kabul-airport

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 15:53 UTC

On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:16:27 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>More joke government planning- which is no planning at all.
>
>Those people are not mindlessly fleeing the Taliban. They know the Taliban has been compiling hit lists for over a decade, and they're probably on one.
>
>https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/16/at-least-five-dead-at-kabul-airport

Enjoy.

--

Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still;
but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
always most valuable when he had lost it.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:26 UTC

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:54:04 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:16:27 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >More joke government planning- which is no planning at all.
> >
> >Those people are not mindlessly fleeing the Taliban. They know the Taliban has been compiling hit lists for over a decade, and they're probably on one.
> >
> >https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/16/at-least-five-dead-at-kabul-airport
> Enjoy.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still;
> but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
> always most valuable when he had lost it.

The assassinations are unceremonious shootings, they have too many people to kill to waste a bunch of time on ritual.

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 by: Ralph Mowery - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:41 UTC

In article <bg2lhgh6ksf51uvmnskf1u05fscedph870@4ax.com>,
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com says...
> More joke government planning- which is no planning at all.
> >
> >Those people are not mindlessly fleeing the Taliban. They know the Taliban has been compiling hit lists for over a decade, and they're probably on one.
> >
> >https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/16/at-least-five-dead-at-kabul-airport
>
> Enjoy.
>
>
>

All they have to do is shoot that double barrel shotgun up in the air
and the Taliban will run.

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 by: bitrex - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:57 UTC

On 8/16/2021 12:26 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:54:04 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:16:27 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> More joke government planning- which is no planning at all.
>>>
>>> Those people are not mindlessly fleeing the Taliban. They know the Taliban has been compiling hit lists for over a decade, and they're probably on one.
>>>
>>> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/16/at-least-five-dead-at-kabul-airport
>> Enjoy.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still;
>> but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
>> always most valuable when he had lost it.
>
> The assassinations are unceremonious shootings, they have too many people to kill to waste a bunch of time on ritual.
>

Wonder who has a bigger kill list, the Taliban or Trump's 2024 campaign
management. Heil zee stimmt Fuhrer! Hut!

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 by: Jeroen Belleman - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:58 UTC

On 2021-08-16 18:41, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> In article <bg2lhgh6ksf51uvmnskf1u05fscedph870@4ax.com>,
> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com says...
>> More joke government planning- which is no planning at all.
>>>
>>> Those people are not mindlessly fleeing the Taliban. They know the Taliban has been compiling hit lists for over a decade, and they're probably on one.
>>>
>>> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/16/at-least-five-dead-at-kabul-airport
>>
>> Enjoy.
>
> All they have to do is shoot that double barrel shotgun up in the air
> and the Taliban will run.
>

Do you seriously believe you can scare away an army of religiously
indoctrinated suicidal nutters by shooting up in the air?

Jeroen Belleman

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 by: Ralph Mowery - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 17:14 UTC

In article <sfe5fe$dlh$1@gioia.aioe.org>, jeroen@nospam.please says...
>
> > All they have to do is shoot that double barrel shotgun up in the air
> > and the Taliban will run.
> >
>
> Do you seriously believe you can scare away an army of religiously
> indoctrinated suicidal nutters by shooting up in the air?
>
> Jeroen Belleman
>
>
>

Not me, I will stick with my AR15 and Glock, Biden does. That is what
he wants us to do for our homes. Should work over there. Maybe he
should have sent some over before the pull out.

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 by: Cursitor Doom - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 18:36 UTC

On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 13:14:28 -0400, Ralph Mowery
<rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

>In article <sfe5fe$dlh$1@gioia.aioe.org>, jeroen@nospam.please says...
>>
>> > All they have to do is shoot that double barrel shotgun up in the air
>> > and the Taliban will run.
>> >
>>
>> Do you seriously believe you can scare away an army of religiously
>> indoctrinated suicidal nutters by shooting up in the air?
>>
>> Jeroen Belleman
>>
>>
>>
>
>Not me, I will stick with my AR15 and Glock, Biden does. That is what
>he wants us to do for our homes. Should work over there. Maybe he
>should have sent some over before the pull out.

Excellent suggestion. I believe it was Mao who remarked the US was
uninvadable because there was "a gun behind every blade of grass" and
the Swiss citizenry is required by law to keep firearms at home for
the defence of the realm.
And I'll wager your idea would have cost a shit-ton less cash than a
pointless 20 year war has!
>
--

"In short, the Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement
against the existing social and political order of things. In all of these
movements, they bring to the front, as a leading question, the issue of
private property ownership."

- Marx and Engels, The Communist Manifesto

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 by: bitrex - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 20:33 UTC

On 8/16/2021 2:36 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 13:14:28 -0400, Ralph Mowery
> <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <sfe5fe$dlh$1@gioia.aioe.org>, jeroen@nospam.please says...
>>>
>>>> All they have to do is shoot that double barrel shotgun up in the air
>>>> and the Taliban will run.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you seriously believe you can scare away an army of religiously
>>> indoctrinated suicidal nutters by shooting up in the air?
>>>
>>> Jeroen Belleman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Not me, I will stick with my AR15 and Glock, Biden does. That is what
>> he wants us to do for our homes. Should work over there. Maybe he
>> should have sent some over before the pull out.
>
> Excellent suggestion. I believe it was Mao who remarked the US was
> uninvadable because there was "a gun behind every blade of grass" and
> the Swiss citizenry is required by law to keep firearms at home for
> the defence of the realm.
> And I'll wager your idea would have cost a shit-ton less cash than a
> pointless 20 year war has!
>>

Then run outside to point them at the first group of 2 or more black
people to show up on your street "Send help! We're being invaded!"

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On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 12:58:09 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> On 8/16/2021 12:26 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:54:04 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >> On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:16:27 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> More joke government planning- which is no planning at all.
> >>>
> >>> Those people are not mindlessly fleeing the Taliban. They know the Taliban has been compiling hit lists for over a decade, and they're probably on one.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/16/at-least-five-dead-at-kabul-airport
> >> Enjoy.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still;
> >> but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
> >> always most valuable when he had lost it.
> >
> > The assassinations are unceremonious shootings, they have too many people to kill to waste a bunch of time on ritual.
> >
> Wonder who has a bigger kill list, the Taliban or Trump's 2024 campaign
> management. Heil zee stimmt Fuhrer! Hut!

I Trump did not exist you would have to invent him

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On 8/16/2021 4:49 PM, Brent Locher wrote:
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 12:58:09 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
>> On 8/16/2021 12:26 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:54:04 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:16:27 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>>>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> More joke government planning- which is no planning at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Those people are not mindlessly fleeing the Taliban. They know the Taliban has been compiling hit lists for over a decade, and they're probably on one.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/16/at-least-five-dead-at-kabul-airport
>>>> Enjoy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still;
>>>> but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
>>>> always most valuable when he had lost it.
>>>
>>> The assassinations are unceremonious shootings, they have too many people to kill to waste a bunch of time on ritual.
>>>
>> Wonder who has a bigger kill list, the Taliban or Trump's 2024 campaign
>> management. Heil zee stimmt Fuhrer! Hut!
>
> I Trump did not exist you would have to invent him
>

No I don't have the ability to invent him, I think only he could do that.

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On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 2:36:21 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 13:14:28 -0400, Ralph Mowery
> <rmow...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <sfe5fe$dlh$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, jer...@nospam.please says...
> >>
> >> > All they have to do is shoot that double barrel shotgun up in the air
> >> > and the Taliban will run.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Do you seriously believe you can scare away an army of religiously
> >> indoctrinated suicidal nutters by shooting up in the air?
> >>
> >> Jeroen Belleman
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Not me, I will stick with my AR15 and Glock, Biden does. That is what
> >he wants us to do for our homes. Should work over there. Maybe he
> >should have sent some over before the pull out.
> Excellent suggestion. I believe it was Mao who remarked the US was
> uninvadable because there was "a gun behind every blade of grass" and
> the Swiss citizenry is required by law to keep firearms at home for
> the defence of the realm.
> And I'll wager your idea would have cost a shit-ton less cash than a
> pointless 20 year war has!

Oh right- and like Mao is a respected military historian and tactician, if he even made such a stupid statement.? Britain invaded America with three armies during the revolution. They weren't impressed by a bunch of rubes with squirrel rifles.
Howe never was dislodged. Cornwallis was defeated by a combined land and sea siege by the French, and Burgoyne defeated himself because he was such an airhead idiot.
Then about 35 years later the British invaded again, burned and killed everything in their path, burned the capital city and spit on it.
Militias don't do well against professional standing armies.

> >
> --
>
> "In short, the Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement
> against the existing social and political order of things. In all of these
> movements, they bring to the front, as a leading question, the issue of
> private property ownership."
>
> - Marx and Engels, The Communist Manifesto

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On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 4:36:21 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 13:14:28 -0400, Ralph Mowery <rmow...@charter.net> wrote:
> >In article <sfe5fe$dlh$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, jer...@nospam.please says....
> >>
> >> > All they have to do is shoot that double barrel shotgun up in the air
> >> > and the Taliban will run.
> >>
> >> Do you seriously believe you can scare away an army of religiously
> >> indoctrinated suicidal nutters by shooting up in the air?
> >
They aren't actually suicidal, and they aren't nutters, but it seems unlikely that they would be intimidated.
> >
> >Not me, I will stick with my AR15 and Glock, Biden does. That is what
> >he wants us to do for our homes. Should work over there. Maybe he
> >should have sent some over before the pull out.
>
> Excellent suggestion. I believe it was Mao who remarked the US was
> uninvadable because there was "a gun behind every blade of grass" and
> the Swiss citizenry is required by law to keep firearms at home for
> the defence of the realm.

The Swiss situation is different. The citizens have had military training, and actually know how to use their - military - weapon. They look a lot more like a well-regulated militia than do American gun nuts.

> And I'll wager your idea would have cost a shit-ton less cash than a pointless 20 year war has!

The war wasn't pointless until they'd managed to find and kill Bin Laden. After that, it became a game of whacka mole . They weren't prepared to spend enough money to actually root out the Taliban, or educate the Afghan population to the point where a substantial majority could see that the religious right need to be disarmed and restrained - the Americans haven't managed to get there with their own religious right wing, so they weren't going to spend billions trying to do something in Afghanistan that they hadn't managed at home.

Cursitor Doom doesn't seem to be religious - he does have his irrational delusions which are no less silly than those adopted by better-organised believers, so his wagers seem even less likely to pay off.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 6:49:47 AM UTC+10, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 12:58:09 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> > On 8/16/2021 12:26 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:54:04 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:16:27 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> > >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> More joke government planning- which is no planning at all.
> > >>>
> > >>> Those people are not mindlessly fleeing the Taliban. They know the Taliban has been compiling hit lists for over a decade, and they're probably on one.
> > >>>
> > >>> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/16/at-least-five-dead-at-kabul-airport
> > >> Enjoy.
> > >
> > > The assassinations are unceremonious shootings, they have too many people to kill to waste a bunch of time on ritual.
> > >
> > Wonder who has a bigger kill list, the Taliban or Trump's 2024 campaign management. Heil zee stimmt Fuhrer! Hut!
>
> If Trump did not exist you would have to invent him.

Trump invented himself. The Koch brothers were looking for a right-wing populist to take over what their Tea Party Faction had left of the Republican Party, and Trump was better at public relations than the Republican clowns that had been willing to play along with the Tea Party.

The kind of political skills that are required to sell that kind of right-wing nonsense to a lot of people as silly as John Larkin are fairly rare. The people who can manage it can't have a particularly good grasp of reality, but once they've got to the top pf a large organisation they can do a lot of damage.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On 8/16/21 11:36 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 13:14:28 -0400, Ralph Mowery
> <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <sfe5fe$dlh$1@gioia.aioe.org>, jeroen@nospam.please says...
>>>
>>>> All they have to do is shoot that double barrel shotgun up in the air
>>>> and the Taliban will run.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you seriously believe you can scare away an army of religiously
>>> indoctrinated suicidal nutters by shooting up in the air?
>>>
>>> Jeroen Belleman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Not me, I will stick with my AR15 and Glock, Biden does. That is what
>> he wants us to do for our homes. Should work over there. Maybe he
>> should have sent some over before the pull out.
>
> Excellent suggestion. I believe it was Mao who remarked the US was
> uninvadable because there was "a gun behind every blade of grass" and
> the Swiss citizenry is required by law to keep firearms at home for
> the defence of the realm.
> And I'll wager your idea would have cost a shit-ton less cash than a
> pointless 20 year war has!
>>
No, not Mao. It was Admiral Yamamoto, and at the time he was correct.

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 by: Cursitor Doom - Tue, 17 Aug 2021 22:01 UTC

On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 10:08:29 -0700, Bill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net>
wrote:

>On 8/16/21 11:36 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 13:14:28 -0400, Ralph Mowery
>> <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <sfe5fe$dlh$1@gioia.aioe.org>, jeroen@nospam.please says...
>>>>
>>>>> All they have to do is shoot that double barrel shotgun up in the air
>>>>> and the Taliban will run.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you seriously believe you can scare away an army of religiously
>>>> indoctrinated suicidal nutters by shooting up in the air?
>>>>
>>>> Jeroen Belleman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not me, I will stick with my AR15 and Glock, Biden does. That is what
>>> he wants us to do for our homes. Should work over there. Maybe he
>>> should have sent some over before the pull out.
>>
>> Excellent suggestion. I believe it was Mao who remarked the US was
>> uninvadable because there was "a gun behind every blade of grass" and
>> the Swiss citizenry is required by law to keep firearms at home for
>> the defence of the realm.
>> And I'll wager your idea would have cost a shit-ton less cash than a
>> pointless 20 year war has!
>>>
>No, not Mao. It was Admiral Yamamoto, and at the time he was correct.

"At the time"? What's changed since?
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Britain: do the right thing and hand Australia back to China.

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