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* a nicer storyAMuzi
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 by: AMuzi - Tue, 27 Dec 2022 23:43 UTC

I often note that we're a large nation with one of
everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:

https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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 by: Tom Kunich - Tue, 27 Dec 2022 23:50 UTC

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> I often note that we're a large nation with one of
> everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
> actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
>
> https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/

To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.

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 by: John B. - Tue, 27 Dec 2022 23:50 UTC

On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 17:43:01 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>I often note that we're a large nation with one of
>everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
>actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
>
>https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/

I read your "story" and disregarding the freezing man and so on, my
overwhelming thought was the growing up in a small New England town no
one would have been a bit reluctant to open their front door when
someone knocked on it.
--
Cheers,

John B.

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 by: John B. - Tue, 27 Dec 2022 23:58 UTC

On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 15:50:27 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> I often note that we're a large nation with one of
>> everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
>> actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
>>
>> https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
>
>To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.

Tell us Tommy, what is a "leftist? I asked you number of times to
define what a communist was, a term you used to use as an (I suppose)
insult and you couldn't define it and now you have switched to
"Leftist".
--
Cheers,

John B.

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Tue, 27 Dec 2022 23:59 UTC

On 12/27/2022 6:43 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> I often note that we're a large nation with one of everything. And not
> all bad; some of us are pretty nice actually.  Here's your Buffalo
> counterpoint story today:
>
> https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/

Thanks. It's nice to see some good news here.

--
- Frank Krygowski

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 by: funkma...@hotmail.co - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 06:25 UTC

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:50:29 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > I often note that we're a large nation with one of
> > everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
> > actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
> >
> > https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
> To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.

Leave it to tommy to take a pleasant feelgood story and fuck it up with his bullshit politics.
Hey sparky, Considering Biden won buffalo 77% to 21%, what do you think the odds are that the good samaritan was a "leftist"?

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 22:25:23 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:50:29 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> > I often note that we're a large nation with one of
>> > everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
>> > actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
>> >
>> > https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
>> To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.
>
> Leave it to tommy to take a pleasant feelgood story and fuck it up with his bullshit politics.
> Hey sparky, Considering Biden won buffalo 77% to 21%, what do you think the odds are that the good samaritan was a "leftist"?

I asked him to define the term "leftist" and so far he hasn't replied
:-)
But that seems to be his usual ploy, make an outrageous statement then
if anyone ask for proof or explanation he apparently runs away and
hides his head... and then claims people are persecuting him.

--
Cheers,

John B.

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 by: Roger Merriman - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 10:49 UTC

Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 12/27/2022 6:43 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> I often note that we're a large nation with one of everything. And not
>> all bad; some of us are pretty nice actually.  Here's your Buffalo
>> counterpoint story today:
>>
>> https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
>
> Thanks. It's nice to see some good news here.
>
>
Folks (not just here) do seem to revel in bad news and shock I guess?

Roger Merriman

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 by: Lou Holtman - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 12:16 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:50:29 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > I often note that we're a large nation with one of
> > everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
> > actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
> >
> > https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
> To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.

Man, you can make one's beer go flat in a second.

Lou

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 by: funkma...@hotmail.co - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 12:38 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 7:16:41 AM UTC-5, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:50:29 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > > I often note that we're a large nation with one of
> > > everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
> > > actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
> > >
> > > https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
> > To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.
> Man, you can make one's beer go flat in a second.
>
Can you imagine christmas dinner with tommy?

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 by: Lou Holtman - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 13:39 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 1:38:15 PM UTC+1, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 7:16:41 AM UTC-5, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:50:29 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > > > I often note that we're a large nation with one of
> > > > everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
> > > > actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
> > > >
> > > > https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
> > > To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.
> > Man, you can make one's beer go flat in a second.
> >
> Can you imagine christmas dinner with tommy?

In real life I avoid people that are always negative. They drain your energy and they don't solve any problem.

Lou

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On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 2:49:37 AM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
> Frank Krygowski <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On 12/27/2022 6:43 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> >> I often note that we're a large nation with one of everything. And not
> >> all bad; some of us are pretty nice actually. Here's your Buffalo
> >> counterpoint story today:
> >>
> >> https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
> >
> > Thanks. It's nice to see some good news here.
> >
> >
> Folks (not just here) do seem to revel in bad news and shock I guess?

I was out riding in Oakland which is considered to be one of the most dangerous places in the bay area. I had just descended Broadway Terrace and pulled across the large wide road into the bike lane headed down Broadway. Two other cyclists came up behind me coming down Broadway from the cross street that leads to the edge of UC Berkeley Campus.

Since I was in their way, when the light changed I pulled away fast so that they would have room to pass after the traffic went by. But almost across the street my tubeless tire blew off of the rim and I was thrown directly in front of the car that had been next to me at the stop light. The car stopped without running over me because I was so far ahead of it. He stopped and got out to help me up, The car in the left lane on the other side of the street came to a complete stop and got out to help and so did the man in the car behind her. In total at least five people were helping me up and over to the sidewalk building which I could lean against somewhat in shock. NO ONE was honking or bothered in the least that traffic was being blocked to help someone.

All you have to do is read the postings of the communists here to see that there isn't one chance in a million that Krygowski, Flunky, Liebermann or Scharf would let a stranger into their homes to save his life,

My mailbox and my emails are completely filled with letters asking for donations because I donated to every good cause before I retired and until I was remarried after I retired. Roger, I've no doubt that you too have donated to causes you believe in. Do you know who donates to the Democrat Party? They are required to give the source of their money and it isn't multiple small donations from normal people. That party is bought and paid for by billionaires that in return require legislative favors.

That means that people like Frank, Flunky Jeff and Scharf do NOT help anyone - even the parties they are allied with.

So what I said was nothing more than the truth - I had thought that all people would help anyone else under bad circumstances. But the Democrats do not - want proof? Look at the homeless.

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On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 4:16:41 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:50:29 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > > I often note that we're a large nation with one of
> > > everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
> > > actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
> > >
> > > https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
> > To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.
> Man, you can make one's beer go flat in a second.

Yes Lou, but it is better than believing in Santa Claus. It is time to start seeing reality. Do you know that Moderna has BOUGHT the British government? How long before they by the Dutch government?

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On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 5:39:44 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 1:38:15 PM UTC+1, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 7:16:41 AM UTC-5, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:50:29 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > > > > I often note that we're a large nation with one of
> > > > > everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
> > > > > actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
> > > > To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.
> > > Man, you can make one's beer go flat in a second.
> > >
> > Can you imagine christmas dinner with tommy?
> In real life I avoid people that are always negative. They drain your energy and they don't solve any problem.

It is only normal for you to be tired of my negativity. Is it your belief that I was negative before Bush and Obama? I wasn't even very negative with Clinton. We had good times during his Presidency regardless of how they were brought about. But then we had a major change and the Congress made it very clear that they couldn't care less WHAT the people wanted. They will hand out favors like candy to children. You are about to feel the impact of this in Holland and you think that I'm being negative because I don't want that? You don't want others looking out for the conditions around the world that are badly effected by the acts of the US government and their cronies that are happy to see this? Even the Wall Street Journal is now saying that we are heading into a deep recession that may even be a depression because of spending without control.

You can get on your bike and ride to forget your problems, you can read stories of people willing to take their own food and shelter and give to others. But what happens at the end of the ride when you go into the grocery store to see empty shelves and bankrupting prices. I am sorry that is negative, but it is reality.

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 by: funkma...@hotmail.co - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 16:45 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 11:32:57 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Do you know that Moderna has BOUGHT the British government?

HAH!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, wait, here it is:
https://investors.modernatx.com/news/news-details/2022/Moderna-Finalizes-Strategic-Partnership-with-UK-Government/default.aspx
"December 21, 2022 / Moderna, Inc . (NASDAQ:MRNA), a biotechnology company pioneering messenger RNA (mRNA) therapeutics and vaccines, today announced the finalization of a strategic partnership with the UK government to establish a state-of-the-art mRNA research, development, and manufacturing facility in the UK. "

I guess on _some_ plane of reality establishing a state-of-the-art mRNA research, development, and manufacturing facility in the UK means Moderna BOUGHT the British government <snicker>.

> How long before they by the Dutch government?

Gee tommy, we don't know: How long before they buy the Dutch government?

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 17:32 UTC

On 12/28/2022 11:30 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
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> I was out riding in Oakland which is considered to be one of the most dangerous places in the bay area...

Why are you still there? Get out of that hellhole.

> Since I was in their way, when the light changed I pulled away fast so that they would have room to pass after the traffic went by. But almost across the street my tubeless tire blew off of the rim and I was thrown directly in front of the car ...

You have so many bike problems!

> All you have to do is read the postings of the communists here to see that there isn't one chance in a million that Krygowski, Flunky, Liebermann or Scharf would let a stranger into their homes to save his life,

As mentioned, my wife and I helped a young engineer flee communism and
apply for political asylum in the U.S. And while we can't do it now
because of medical issues, for decades we were Warm Shower hosts and
regularly housed touring cyclists, including a couple who used to post
to this forum before obnoxious people drove them away.

--
- Frank Krygowski

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On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 5:32:57 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 4:16:41 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:50:29 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > > > I often note that we're a large nation with one of
> > > > everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
> > > > actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
> > > >
> > > > https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
> > > To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.
> > Man, you can make one's beer go flat in a second.
> Yes Lou, but it is better than believing in Santa Claus. It is time to start seeing reality. Do you know that Moderna has BOUGHT the British government? How long before they by the Dutch government?

Ah, you are watching Dr Campbell’s channel. Don’t forget he is making money himself out of this.

Lou

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On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 9:53:51 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 5:32:57 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 4:16:41 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:50:29 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > > > > I often note that we're a large nation with one of
> > > > > everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
> > > > > actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
> > > > To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.
> > > Man, you can make one's beer go flat in a second.
> > Yes Lou, but it is better than believing in Santa Claus. It is time to start seeing reality. Do you know that Moderna has BOUGHT the British government? How long before they by the Dutch government?
> Ah, you are watching Dr Campbell’s channel. Don’t forget he is making money himself out of this.

I suppose so, but his point is valid. The British government paying for a guaranteed (and LARGE) number of vaccine doses for an illness that is barely making people ill and for which you could get BETTER immunity with lesser side effects simply by infecting people with MI-63 SARS cold virus should make anyone stop and wonder WHY when a test group of thousands are tracked and there was only ONE death and that with three heart diseases, you should wonder what is going on. Fauci and the heads of the NIH were paid $500 Million by the vaccine companies. Is the British health department trying to get in on the payouts?

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On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 8:11:01 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 9:53:51 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 5:32:57 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 4:16:41 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:50:29 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > > > > > I often note that we're a large nation with one of
> > > > > > everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
> > > > > > actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
> > > > > To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.
> > > > Man, you can make one's beer go flat in a second.
> > > Yes Lou, but it is better than believing in Santa Claus. It is time to start seeing reality. Do you know that Moderna has BOUGHT the British government? How long before they by the Dutch government?
> > Ah, you are watching Dr Campbell’s channel. Don’t forget he is making money himself out of this.
> I suppose so, but his point is valid. The British government paying for a guaranteed (and LARGE) number of vaccine doses for an illness that is barely making people ill and for which you could get BETTER immunity with lesser side effects simply by infecting people with MI-63 SARS cold virus should make anyone stop and wonder WHY when a test group of thousands are tracked and there was only ONE death and that with three heart diseases, you should wonder what is going on. Fauci and the heads of the NIH were paid $500 Million by the vaccine companies. Is the British health department trying to get in on the payouts?

He is cherry picking and and expressing sneaky accusations just not ‘bad’ enough to be kicked out of youtube a lucrative source of extra income. He has become political. Corona is the best thing what has happened to him. The UK has bigger problems than an investment of 500 million euro.

Lou

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On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 3:01:05 PM UTC-5, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
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> He is cherry picking and and expressing sneaky accusations just not ‘bad’ enough to be kicked out of youtube a lucrative source of extra income. He has become political. Corona is the best thing what has happened to him. The UK has bigger problems than an investment of 500 million euro.
>

He didn't seem get political until he started discussing the Moderna partnership, though admittedly I only went back to view a few of his videos over the past several months. IT seemed to me the latest videos where he discusses the Moderna deal seem a bit out of character for the most part - more wonk than science.

I also noticed he seemed to cherry pick somewhat when he discussed myocarditis in his "yellow card" video - seeming to gloss over the risk of heart damage in young men who contracted covid vs those who had the vaccine, choosing instead to focus on vaccinated vs prepandemic myocarditis rates in young men. Not that his comparison wasn't valid, just that it doesn't seem to me to be as relevant as vaccinated vs infected. I recently accompanied my father to his cardiologist and asked him specifically about the risks of heart-related incidents in vaccinated younger male athletes (I was thinking of Sonny Cobrelli). He said he had read a number of the studies and his opinion was the risk of heart damage from getting covid was significantly greater than the risk of damage from the vaccine. He noted that any studies he had read on the risk associated with the vaccine varied only from statistically insignificant to slightly higher than pre-pandemic rates, depending on who did the study, how it was done, and when it was done. In the "Yellow Card" video Campbell was focusing exclusively on the line in the UK guidelines that suggested across the board vaccinations versus another line that noted "reports" of myocarditis in younger vaccinated men - no real statistical analysis was discussed other than a pre-pandemic rate from his desk reference manual. That just seemed sloppy.

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 by: Tom Kunich - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 21:53 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:01:05 PM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 8:11:01 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 9:53:51 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 5:32:57 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 4:16:41 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:50:29 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > > > > > > I often note that we're a large nation with one of
> > > > > > > everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
> > > > > > > actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
> > > > > > To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.
> > > > > Man, you can make one's beer go flat in a second.
> > > > Yes Lou, but it is better than believing in Santa Claus. It is time to start seeing reality. Do you know that Moderna has BOUGHT the British government? How long before they by the Dutch government?
> > > Ah, you are watching Dr Campbell’s channel. Don’t forget he is making money himself out of this.
> > I suppose so, but his point is valid. The British government paying for a guaranteed (and LARGE) number of vaccine doses for an illness that is barely making people ill and for which you could get BETTER immunity with lesser side effects simply by infecting people with MI-63 SARS cold virus should make anyone stop and wonder WHY when a test group of thousands are tracked and there was only ONE death and that with three heart diseases, you should wonder what is going on. Fauci and the heads of the NIH were paid $500 Million by the vaccine companies. Is the British health department trying to get in on the payouts?
> He is cherry picking and and expressing sneaky accusations just not ‘bad’ enough to be kicked out of youtube a lucrative source of extra income. He has become political. Corona is the best thing what has happened to him. The UK has bigger problems than an investment of 500 million euro.

Really now Lou - that is 91/2% of the yearly budget of the Netherlands, isn't it? Hardly not worth mentioning nor considered to be cherry picking when the disease is now HARMLESS.

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 by: Lou Holtman - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 21:56 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 10:42:28 PM UTC+1, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 3:01:05 PM UTC-5, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > He is cherry picking and and expressing sneaky accusations just not ‘bad’ enough to be kicked out of youtube a lucrative source of extra income. He has become political. Corona is the best thing what has happened to him. The UK has bigger problems than an investment of 500 million euro.
> >
> He didn't seem get political until he started discussing the Moderna partnership, though admittedly I only went back to view a few of his videos over the past several months. IT seemed to me the latest videos where he discusses the Moderna deal seem a bit out of character for the most part - more wonk than science.
>
> I also noticed he seemed to cherry pick somewhat when he discussed myocarditis in his "yellow card" video - seeming to gloss over the risk of heart damage in young men who contracted covid vs those who had the vaccine, choosing instead to focus on vaccinated vs prepandemic myocarditis rates in young men. Not that his comparison wasn't valid, just that it doesn't seem to me to be as relevant as vaccinated vs infected. I recently accompanied my father to his cardiologist and asked him specifically about the risks of heart-related incidents in vaccinated younger male athletes (I was thinking of Sonny Cobrelli). He said he had read a number of the studies and his opinion was the risk of heart damage from getting covid was significantly greater than the risk of damage from the vaccine. He noted that any studies he had read on the risk associated with the vaccine varied only from statistically insignificant to slightly higher than pre-pandemic rates, depending on who did the study, how it was done, and when it was done. In the "Yellow Card" video Campbell was focusing exclusively on the line in the UK guidelines that suggested across the board vaccinations versus another line that noted "reports" of myocarditis in younger vaccinated men - no real statistical analysis was discussed other than a pre-pandemic rate from his desk reference manual. That just seemed sloppy.

He spent two video’s on a report that concluded that non vaccinated people had a higher risk to get involved in a car accident. Pfff.

Lou

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On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 10:53:50 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:01:05 PM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 8:11:01 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 9:53:51 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 5:32:57 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 4:16:41 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:50:29 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > > > > > > > I often note that we're a large nation with one of
> > > > > > > > everything. And not all bad; some of us are pretty nice
> > > > > > > > actually. Here's your Buffalo counterpoint story today:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://nypost.com/2022/12/27/tragic-story-behind-angel-in-buffalo-who-saved-man-in-blizzard/
> > > > > > > To the truth until I saw the likes of the people here on the far left, I thought everyone was that way. But all you have to do is read the leftists here to discover that they would leave a man dying on their doorstep in a second.
> > > > > > Man, you can make one's beer go flat in a second.
> > > > > Yes Lou, but it is better than believing in Santa Claus. It is time to start seeing reality. Do you know that Moderna has BOUGHT the British government? How long before they by the Dutch government?
> > > > Ah, you are watching Dr Campbell’s channel. Don’t forget he is making money himself out of this.
> > > I suppose so, but his point is valid. The British government paying for a guaranteed (and LARGE) number of vaccine doses for an illness that is barely making people ill and for which you could get BETTER immunity with lesser side effects simply by infecting people with MI-63 SARS cold virus should make anyone stop and wonder WHY when a test group of thousands are tracked and there was only ONE death and that with three heart diseases, you should wonder what is going on. Fauci and the heads of the NIH were paid $500 Million by the vaccine companies. Is the British health department trying to get in on the payouts?
> > He is cherry picking and and expressing sneaky accusations just not ‘bad’ enough to be kicked out of youtube a lucrative source of extra income. He has become political. Corona is the best thing what has happened to him. The UK has bigger problems than an investment of 500 million euro.
> Really now Lou - that is 91/2% of the yearly budget of the Netherlands, isn't it? Hardly not worth mentioning nor considered to be cherry picking when the disease is now HARMLESS.

What budget? Healthcare budget? Not even close. Btw. The investment was not only for Covid vaccines.

Lou

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 by: funkma...@hotmail.co - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 22:02 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 4:56:38 PM UTC-5, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 10:42:28 PM UTC+1, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 3:01:05 PM UTC-5, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > He is cherry picking and and expressing sneaky accusations just not ‘bad’ enough to be kicked out of youtube a lucrative source of extra income. He has become political. Corona is the best thing what has happened to him. The UK has bigger problems than an investment of 500 million euro.
> > >
> > He didn't seem get political until he started discussing the Moderna partnership, though admittedly I only went back to view a few of his videos over the past several months. IT seemed to me the latest videos where he discusses the Moderna deal seem a bit out of character for the most part - more wonk than science.
> >
> > I also noticed he seemed to cherry pick somewhat when he discussed myocarditis in his "yellow card" video - seeming to gloss over the risk of heart damage in young men who contracted covid vs those who had the vaccine, choosing instead to focus on vaccinated vs prepandemic myocarditis rates in young men. Not that his comparison wasn't valid, just that it doesn't seem to me to be as relevant as vaccinated vs infected. I recently accompanied my father to his cardiologist and asked him specifically about the risks of heart-related incidents in vaccinated younger male athletes (I was thinking of Sonny Cobrelli). He said he had read a number of the studies and his opinion was the risk of heart damage from getting covid was significantly greater than the risk of damage from the vaccine. He noted that any studies he had read on the risk associated with the vaccine varied only from statistically insignificant to slightly higher than pre-pandemic rates, depending on who did the study, how it was done, and when it was done. In the "Yellow Card" video Campbell was focusing exclusively on the line in the UK guidelines that suggested across the board vaccinations versus another line that noted "reports" of myocarditis in younger vaccinated men - no real statistical analysis was discussed other than a pre-pandemic rate from his desk reference manual. That just seemed sloppy.
> He spent two video’s on a report that concluded that non vaccinated people had a higher risk to get involved in a car accident. Pfff.
>

LOL, I saw that too. My take is that it was correlation, not causation - that non-vaxed people exhibit high risk behaviours.

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 by: funkma...@hotmail.co - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 22:05 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 4:59:39 PM UTC-5, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 10:53:50 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> > Really now Lou - that is 91/2% of the yearly budget of the Netherlands, isn't it? Hardly not worth mentioning nor considered to be cherry picking when the disease is now HARMLESS.
> What budget? Healthcare budget? Not even close. Btw. The investment was not only for Covid vaccines.
>

Leave it to tommy to conflate the 500M vaccine investment by the UK government with the health care budget in the Netherlands.


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