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it was discovered by a hunter who was actually physically observing it with the help of binoculars.

All those expensive telescopes out there, behold the lonely binocular for the discovery of a comet?

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On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 23:27:09 -0800 (PST), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
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>https://newsbeezer.com/czechrepubliceng/comet-leonard-is-here-not-sure-if-we-will-see-them-with-the-naked-eye-for-the-astronomers/
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> it was discovered by a hunter who was actually physically observing it with the help of binoculars.
>
>All those expensive telescopes out there, behold the lonely binocular for the discovery of a comet?

Nonsense. It was discovered in images from the Mount Lemmon Survey,
collected with a 1.5 meter telescope and a 10K x 10K CCD.

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 by: fred k. engels® - Sat, 4 Dec 2021 15:21 UTC

Folks, this thread has gone completely off topic.

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On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 6:21:52 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 23:27:09 -0800 (PST), S
> wrote:
> >https://newsbeezer.com/czechrepubliceng/comet-leonard-is-here-not-sure-if-we-will-see-them-with-the-naked-eye-for-the-astronomers/
> >
> > it was discovered by a hunter who was actually physically observing it with the help of binoculars.
> >
> >All those expensive telescopes out there, behold the lonely binocular for the discovery of a comet?
> Nonsense. It was discovered in images from the Mount Lemmon Survey,
> collected with a 1.5 meter telescope and a 10K x 10K CCD.

So you're saying, the article I posted here is false?

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On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 10:47:53 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:

> So you're saying, the article I posted here is false?

Apparently so:

https://www.space.com/newfound-comet-leonard-visible-2021

Since what you posted was a link to a back-and-forth discussion in
some sort of forum, I wouldn't consider it to be a highly trustworthy
source of information; one of the participants in the discussion
could easily have been misinformed.

John Savard

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On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 12:05:41 AM UTC-8, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 10:47:53 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
>
> > So you're saying, the article I posted here is false?
> Apparently so:
>
> https://www.space.com/newfound-comet-leonard-visible-2021
>
> Since what you posted was a link to a back-and-forth discussion in
> some sort of forum, I wouldn't consider it to be a highly trustworthy
> source of information; one of the participants in the discussion
> could easily have been misinformed.
>
> John Savard

Article says - >>When Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image", it was an exceedingly faint object of magnitude 19.<<
Repeat - Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image"!
I think, it's not easy to find anything at mag 19 with a conventional small telescope or never mind with a binocular.
Maybe the article refers to this Czech guy that he found the comet first visually with his bino?
Far as I know, a comet can be found by multiple people, but the very first who reports it is the one who can claim it?

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On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 7:21:56 AM UTC-8, fred k. engels® wrote:
> Folks, this thread has gone completely off topic.

Why?

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On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 6:21:52 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 23:27:09 -0800 (PST),
> wrote:
> >https://newsbeezer.com/czechrepubliceng/comet-leonard-is-here-not-sure-if-we-will-see-them-with-the-naked-eye-for-the-astronomers/
> >
> > it was discovered by a hunter who was actually physically observing it with the help of binoculars.
> >
> >All those expensive telescopes out there, behold the lonely binocular for the discovery of a comet?
> Nonsense. It was discovered in images from the Mount Lemmon Survey,
> collected with a 1.5 meter telescope and a 10K x 10K CCD.

Czech ‘ESO photo ambassador’ Petr Horálek, asteroid 6822, and the Long Tails of Comet NEOWISE
https://english.radio.cz/czech-eso-photo-ambassador-petr-horalek-asteroid-6822-and-long-tails-comet-8687065

I think, the Czech fellow, found it visually first with a bino?
There are many robotic telescopes out there hunting for comets!

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 by: Chris L Peterson - Sun, 5 Dec 2021 14:48 UTC

On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 21:47:52 -0800 (PST), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 6:21:52 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 23:27:09 -0800 (PST), S
>> wrote:
>> >https://newsbeezer.com/czechrepubliceng/comet-leonard-is-here-not-sure-if-we-will-see-them-with-the-naked-eye-for-the-astronomers/
>> >
>> > it was discovered by a hunter who was actually physically observing it with the help of binoculars.
>> >
>> >All those expensive telescopes out there, behold the lonely binocular for the discovery of a comet?
>> Nonsense. It was discovered in images from the Mount Lemmon Survey,
>> collected with a 1.5 meter telescope and a 10K x 10K CCD.
>
>So you're saying, the article I posted here is false?

Yes.

https://minorplanetcenter.net//iau/mpec/K21/K21A99.html

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On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 6:48:10 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 21:47:52 -0800 (PST),
> wrote:
> >On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 6:21:52 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 23:27:09 -0800 (PST), S
> >> wrote:
> >> >https://newsbeezer.com/czechrepubliceng/comet-leonard-is-here-not-sure-if-we-will-see-them-with-the-naked-eye-for-the-astronomers/
> >> >
> >> > it was discovered by a hunter who was actually physically observing it with the help of binoculars.
> >> >
> >> >All those expensive telescopes out there, behold the lonely binocular for the discovery of a comet?
> >> Nonsense. It was discovered in images from the Mount Lemmon Survey,
> >> collected with a 1.5 meter telescope and a 10K x 10K CCD.
> >
> >So you're saying, the article I posted here is false?
> Yes.
>
> https://minorplanetcenter.net//iau/mpec/K21/K21A99.html

Article says - >>When Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image", it was an exceedingly faint object of magnitude 19.<<
Repeat - Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image"!
I think, it's not easy to find anything at mag 19 with a conventional small telescope or never mind with a binocular.
Maybe the article refers to this Czech guy that he found the comet first visually with his bino?
Far as I know, a comet can be found by multiple people, but the very first who reports it is the one who can claim it?

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On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 10:55:30 -0800 (PST), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 6:48:10 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 21:47:52 -0800 (PST),
>> wrote:
>> >On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 6:21:52 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 23:27:09 -0800 (PST), S
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >https://newsbeezer.com/czechrepubliceng/comet-leonard-is-here-not-sure-if-we-will-see-them-with-the-naked-eye-for-the-astronomers/
>> >> >
>> >> > it was discovered by a hunter who was actually physically observing it with the help of binoculars.
>> >> >
>> >> >All those expensive telescopes out there, behold the lonely binocular for the discovery of a comet?
>> >> Nonsense. It was discovered in images from the Mount Lemmon Survey,
>> >> collected with a 1.5 meter telescope and a 10K x 10K CCD.
>> >
>> >So you're saying, the article I posted here is false?
>> Yes.
>>
>> https://minorplanetcenter.net//iau/mpec/K21/K21A99.html
>
>Article says - >>When Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image", it was an exceedingly faint object of magnitude 19.<<
>Repeat - Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image"!
>I think, it's not easy to find anything at mag 19 with a conventional small telescope or never mind with a binocular.
>Maybe the article refers to this Czech guy that he found the comet first visually with his bino?
>Far as I know, a comet can be found by multiple people, but the very first who reports it is the one who can claim it?

Comets are named by their discoverer or discoverers. It doesn't matter
if that discovery is visual or in an image. It doesn't even require
the discoverer to be a human being. When comet discoveries are
reported by multiple people at nearly the same time, the comet carries
multiple names (e.g. Hale-Bopp).

This object was discovered by exactly one person, long before it was
detectable visually.

The article is nonsense.

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On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 2:11:31 AM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 7:21:56 AM UTC-8, fred k. engels® wrote:
> > Folks, this thread has gone completely off topic.
> Why?

a) He is a troll.

b) However, in a very literal sense, strictly speaking, he was correct. This newsgroup
is sci.astro.amateur, and Leonard is a *professional* astronomer, not an amateur.

John Savard

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On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 4:27:55 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 10:55:30 -0800 (PST),
> >On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 6:48:10 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 21:47:52 -0800 (PST),
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 6:21:52 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 23:27:09 -0800 (PST), S
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >https://newsbeezer.com/czechrepubliceng/comet-leonard-is-here-not-sure-if-we-will-see-them-with-the-naked-eye-for-the-astronomers/
> >> >> >
> >> >> > it was discovered by a hunter who was actually physically observing it with the help of binoculars.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >All those expensive telescopes out there, behold the lonely binocular for the discovery of a comet?
> >> >> Nonsense. It was discovered in images from the Mount Lemmon Survey,
> >> >> collected with a 1.5 meter telescope and a 10K x 10K CCD.
> >> >
> >> >So you're saying, the article I posted here is false?
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> https://minorplanetcenter.net//iau/mpec/K21/K21A99.html
> >
> >Article says - >>When Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image", it was an exceedingly faint object of magnitude 19.<<
> >Repeat - Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image"!
> >I think, it's not easy to find anything at mag 19 with a conventional small telescope or never mind with a binocular.
> >Maybe the article refers to this Czech guy that he found the comet first visually with his bino?
> >Far as I know, a comet can be found by multiple people, but the very first who reports it is the one who can claim it?
> Comets are named by their discoverer or discoverers. It doesn't matter
> if that discovery is visual or in an image. It doesn't even require
> the discoverer to be a human being. When comet discoveries are
> reported by multiple people at nearly the same time, the comet carries
> multiple names (e.g. Hale-Bopp).
>
> This object was discovered by exactly one person, long before it was
> detectable visually.
>
> The article is nonsense.

Why does FOX 24 News pick it up?
https://news.fox-24.com/news/130145.html

What is C / 2021 A1 Leonard zvltn (zvltn)?

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On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 09:19:23 UTC, StarDust wrote:
> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 4:27:55 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 10:55:30 -0800 (PST),
> > >On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 6:48:10 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 21:47:52 -0800 (PST),
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 6:21:52 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > >> >> On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 23:27:09 -0800 (PST), S
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >https://newsbeezer.com/czechrepubliceng/comet-leonard-is-here-not-sure-if-we-will-see-them-with-the-naked-eye-for-the-astronomers/
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > it was discovered by a hunter who was actually physically observing it with the help of binoculars.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >All those expensive telescopes out there, behold the lonely binocular for the discovery of a comet?
> > >> >> Nonsense. It was discovered in images from the Mount Lemmon Survey,
> > >> >> collected with a 1.5 meter telescope and a 10K x 10K CCD.
> > >> >
> > >> >So you're saying, the article I posted here is false?
> > >> Yes.
> > >>
> > >> https://minorplanetcenter.net//iau/mpec/K21/K21A99.html
> > >
> > >Article says - >>When Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image", it was an exceedingly faint object of magnitude 19.<<
> > >Repeat - Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image"!
> > >I think, it's not easy to find anything at mag 19 with a conventional small telescope or never mind with a binocular.
> > >Maybe the article refers to this Czech guy that he found the comet first visually with his bino?
> > >Far as I know, a comet can be found by multiple people, but the very first who reports it is the one who can claim it?
> > Comets are named by their discoverer or discoverers. It doesn't matter
> > if that discovery is visual or in an image. It doesn't even require
> > the discoverer to be a human being. When comet discoveries are
> > reported by multiple people at nearly the same time, the comet carries
> > multiple names (e.g. Hale-Bopp).
> >
> > This object was discovered by exactly one person, long before it was
> > detectable visually.
> >
> > The article is nonsense.
> Why does FOX 24 News pick it up?
> https://news.fox-24.com/news/130145.html
>
> What is C / 2021 A1 Leonard zvltn (zvltn)?

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On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 09:19:23 UTC, StarDust wrote:
> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 4:27:55 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 10:55:30 -0800 (PST),
> > >On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 6:48:10 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 21:47:52 -0800 (PST),
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 6:21:52 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > >> >> On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 23:27:09 -0800 (PST), S
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >https://newsbeezer.com/czechrepubliceng/comet-leonard-is-here-not-sure-if-we-will-see-them-with-the-naked-eye-for-the-astronomers/
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > it was discovered by a hunter who was actually physically observing it with the help of binoculars.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >All those expensive telescopes out there, behold the lonely binocular for the discovery of a comet?
> > >> >> Nonsense. It was discovered in images from the Mount Lemmon Survey,
> > >> >> collected with a 1.5 meter telescope and a 10K x 10K CCD.
> > >> >
> > >> >So you're saying, the article I posted here is false?
> > >> Yes.
> > >>
> > >> https://minorplanetcenter.net//iau/mpec/K21/K21A99.html
> > >
> > >Article says - >>When Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image", it was an exceedingly faint object of magnitude 19.<<
> > >Repeat - Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image"!
> > >I think, it's not easy to find anything at mag 19 with a conventional small telescope or never mind with a binocular.
> > >Maybe the article refers to this Czech guy that he found the comet first visually with his bino?
> > >Far as I know, a comet can be found by multiple people, but the very first who reports it is the one who can claim it?
> > Comets are named by their discoverer or discoverers. It doesn't matter
> > if that discovery is visual or in an image. It doesn't even require
> > the discoverer to be a human being. When comet discoveries are
> > reported by multiple people at nearly the same time, the comet carries
> > multiple names (e.g. Hale-Bopp).
> >
> > This object was discovered by exactly one person, long before it was
> > detectable visually.
> >
> > The article is nonsense.
> Why does FOX 24 News pick it up?
> https://news.fox-24.com/news/130145.html
>
> What is C / 2021 A1 Leonard zvltn (zvltn)?

I got up at 5 this morning on the off chance that the sky would be clear and I could ride my bike to a nearby darker sky site and try to find it with binoculars. It was foggy.

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 by: Martin Brown - Mon, 6 Dec 2021 10:34 UTC

On 05/12/2021 09:01, StarDust wrote:
> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 12:05:41 AM UTC-8, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 10:47:53 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
>>
>>> So you're saying, the article I posted here is false?
>> Apparently so:
>>
>> https://www.space.com/newfound-comet-leonard-visible-2021
>>
>> Since what you posted was a link to a back-and-forth discussion in
>> some sort of forum, I wouldn't consider it to be a highly trustworthy
>> source of information; one of the participants in the discussion
>> could easily have been misinformed.
>>
>> John Savard
>
> Article says - >>When Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image", it was an exceedingly faint object of magnitude 19.<<
> Repeat - Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image"!
> I think, it's not easy to find anything at mag 19 with a conventional small telescope or never mind with a binocular.
> Maybe the article refers to this Czech guy that he found the comet first visually with his bino?
> Far as I know, a comet can be found by multiple people, but the very first who reports it is the one who can claim it?

These days they tend to be found by robotic automated survey systems
long before any amateur ever gets a chance. That's why there are quite a
few PANSTARRS discovered comets (they are really looking for NEOs).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-STARRS#/media/File:Neo-chart.png

Comet discovery is a by-product.

The odd one sneaking in from too close to the sun for the automated
systems still gets spotted by an amateur first but it is a rarity now.

Time was when mostly Japanese amateurs with huge binoculars and a near
photographic memory of the night sky would bag them first. I'm not fully
up to date with amateur comet discoveries but the most recent that I can
find was last year namely C/2020 A2 (Iwamoto) and C/2021 O1 (Nishimura):

https://www.nao.ac.jp/en/news/topics/2020/20200114-comet.html

https://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K21/K21O47.html

The discovery image is quite remarkable. I'm sure I would not have
spotted it - I presume he was blinking against a reference frame!

A small number of extremely keen Japanese observers still do it:
https://www.nao.ac.jp/new-info/comet.html (mostly in Japanese)
(names of observers are in English too)

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

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 by: StarDust - Mon, 6 Dec 2021 11:05 UTC

On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 2:34:13 AM UTC-8, Martin Brown wrote:
> On 05/12/2021 09:01, StarDust wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 12:05:41 AM UTC-8, Quadibloc wrote:
> >> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 10:47:53 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
> >>
> >>> So you're saying, the article I posted here is false?
> >> Apparently so:
> >>
> >> https://www.space.com/newfound-comet-leonard-visible-2021
> >>
> >> Since what you posted was a link to a back-and-forth discussion in
> >> some sort of forum, I wouldn't consider it to be a highly trustworthy
> >> source of information; one of the participants in the discussion
> >> could easily have been misinformed.
> >>
> >> John Savard
> >
> > Article says - >>When Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image", it was an exceedingly faint object of magnitude 19.<<
> > Repeat - Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image"!
> > I think, it's not easy to find anything at mag 19 with a conventional small telescope or never mind with a binocular.
> > Maybe the article refers to this Czech guy that he found the comet first visually with his bino?
> > Far as I know, a comet can be found by multiple people, but the very first who reports it is the one who can claim it?
> These days they tend to be found by robotic automated survey systems
> long before any amateur ever gets a chance. That's why there are quite a
> few PANSTARRS discovered comets (they are really looking for NEOs).
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-STARRS#/media/File:Neo-chart.png
>
> Comet discovery is a by-product.
>
> The odd one sneaking in from too close to the sun for the automated
> systems still gets spotted by an amateur first but it is a rarity now.
>
> Time was when mostly Japanese amateurs with huge binoculars and a near
> photographic memory of the night sky would bag them first. I'm not fully
> up to date with amateur comet discoveries but the most recent that I can
> find was last year namely C/2020 A2 (Iwamoto) and C/2021 O1 (Nishimura):
>
> https://www.nao.ac.jp/en/news/topics/2020/20200114-comet.html
>
> https://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K21/K21O47.html
>
> The discovery image is quite remarkable. I'm sure I would not have
> spotted it - I presume he was blinking against a reference frame!
>
> A small number of extremely keen Japanese observers still do it:
> https://www.nao.ac.jp/new-info/comet.html (mostly in Japanese)
> (names of observers are in English too)
>
> --
> Regards,
> Martin Brown

Good info! Thx!
This $20k reward system for finding comets still on?

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 by: Martin Brown - Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:24 UTC

On 06/12/2021 11:05, StarDust wrote:
> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 2:34:13 AM UTC-8, Martin Brown wrote:
>> On 05/12/2021 09:01, StarDust wrote:
>>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 12:05:41 AM UTC-8, Quadibloc wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 10:47:53 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So you're saying, the article I posted here is false?
>>>> Apparently so:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.space.com/newfound-comet-leonard-visible-2021
>>>>
>>>> Since what you posted was a link to a back-and-forth discussion in
>>>> some sort of forum, I wouldn't consider it to be a highly trustworthy
>>>> source of information; one of the participants in the discussion
>>>> could easily have been misinformed.
>>>>
>>>> John Savard
>>>
>>> Article says - >>When Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image", it was an exceedingly faint object of magnitude 19.<<
>>> Repeat - Mr. Leonard found the comet's "image"!
>>> I think, it's not easy to find anything at mag 19 with a conventional small telescope or never mind with a binocular.
>>> Maybe the article refers to this Czech guy that he found the comet first visually with his bino?
>>> Far as I know, a comet can be found by multiple people, but the very first who reports it is the one who can claim it?
>> These days they tend to be found by robotic automated survey systems
>> long before any amateur ever gets a chance. That's why there are quite a
>> few PANSTARRS discovered comets (they are really looking for NEOs).
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-STARRS#/media/File:Neo-chart.png
>>
>> Comet discovery is a by-product.
>>
>> The odd one sneaking in from too close to the sun for the automated
>> systems still gets spotted by an amateur first but it is a rarity now.
>>
>> Time was when mostly Japanese amateurs with huge binoculars and a near
>> photographic memory of the night sky would bag them first. I'm not fully
>> up to date with amateur comet discoveries but the most recent that I can
>> find was last year namely C/2020 A2 (Iwamoto) and C/2021 O1 (Nishimura):
>>
>> https://www.nao.ac.jp/en/news/topics/2020/20200114-comet.html
>>
>> https://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K21/K21O47.html
>>
>> The discovery image is quite remarkable. I'm sure I would not have
>> spotted it - I presume he was blinking against a reference frame!
>>
>> A small number of extremely keen Japanese observers still do it:
>> https://www.nao.ac.jp/new-info/comet.html (mostly in Japanese)
>> (names of observers are in English too)
>
> Good info! Thx!
> This $20k reward system for finding comets still on?

I have never heard of such a scheme. My former local club a guy who is
now a high profile and prolific amateur variable star observer found a
Comet just 10 days post discovery before the BAA circular had arrived.

We were so excited that he rang up Patrick Moore who said "well done but
I'm afraid someone beat you to it". We still called it Comet Toone.

--
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Martin Brown

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On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 01:19:21 -0800 (PST), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
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>> The article is nonsense.
>
>Why does FOX 24 News pick it up?
>https://news.fox-24.com/news/130145.html
>
>What is C / 2021 A1 Leonard zvltn (zvltn)?

Because it's Fox. They don't do news.

And because the article you posted is a horrible automatic translation
that is full of random spelling, grammar, and vocabulary errors.

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 by: Chris L Peterson - Mon, 6 Dec 2021 14:49 UTC

On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 01:40:17 -0800 (PST), Mike Collins
<acridiniumester@gmail.com> wrote:

>I got up at 5 this morning on the off chance that the sky would be clear and I could ride my bike to a nearby darker sky site and try to find it with binoculars. It was foggy.

I've been getting really nice images between 4am and dawn the last few
days, but even under my dark, dry skies, it's barely visible in
binoculars, as a tiny, featureless gray blob, no more than a hint of a
tail. So don't worry... you're not missing much!

http://www.cloudbait.com/c2021a1.php

Be interesting to see how it looks near Venus after it rounds the Sun.
It will be in evening twilight, so it may not be any better unless it
brightens quite a bit.

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 by: fred k. engels® - Mon, 6 Dec 2021 15:28 UTC

Too much political discussion. close this thread.

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On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 7:28:52 AM UTC-8, fred k. engels® wrote:
> Too much political discussion. close this thread.

OK, boss!

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 by: StarDust - Mon, 6 Dec 2021 18:17 UTC

On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 6:49:44 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 01:40:17 -0800 (PST), Mike Collins
> <acridin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I got up at 5 this morning on the off chance that the sky would be clear and I could ride my bike to a nearby darker sky site and try to find it with binoculars. It was foggy.
> I've been getting really nice images between 4am and dawn the last few
> days, but even under my dark, dry skies, it's barely visible in
> binoculars, as a tiny, featureless gray blob, no more than a hint of a
> tail. So don't worry... you're not missing much!
>
> http://www.cloudbait.com/c2021a1.php
>
> Be interesting to see how it looks near Venus after it rounds the Sun.
> It will be in evening twilight, so it may not be any better unless it
> brightens quite a bit.

What size binocular?

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 by: Chris L Peterson - Mon, 6 Dec 2021 23:50 UTC

On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 10:17:22 -0800 (PST), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 6:49:44 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 01:40:17 -0800 (PST), Mike Collins
>> <acridin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I got up at 5 this morning on the off chance that the sky would be clear and I could ride my bike to a nearby darker sky site and try to find it with binoculars. It was foggy.
>> I've been getting really nice images between 4am and dawn the last few
>> days, but even under my dark, dry skies, it's barely visible in
>> binoculars, as a tiny, featureless gray blob, no more than a hint of a
>> tail. So don't worry... you're not missing much!
>>
>> http://www.cloudbait.com/c2021a1.php
>>
>> Be interesting to see how it looks near Venus after it rounds the Sun.
>> It will be in evening twilight, so it may not be any better unless it
>> brightens quite a bit.
>
>What size binocular?

8 X 56.

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On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 4:40:15 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 10:17:22 -0800 (PST),> wrote:
> >On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 6:49:44 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 01:40:17 -0800 (PST), Mike Collins
> >> <acridin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I got up at 5 this morning on the off chance that the sky would be clear and I could ride my bike to a nearby darker sky site and try to find it with binoculars. It was foggy.
> >> I've been getting really nice images between 4am and dawn the last few
> >> days, but even under my dark, dry skies, it's barely visible in
> >> binoculars, as a tiny, featureless gray blob, no more than a hint of a
> >> tail. So don't worry... you're not missing much!
> >>
> >> http://www.cloudbait.com/c2021a1.php
> >>
> >> Be interesting to see how it looks near Venus after it rounds the Sun.
> >> It will be in evening twilight, so it may not be any better unless it
> >> brightens quite a bit.
> >
> >What size binocular?
> 8 X 56.

56?
Interesting size!
Either 50 nor 60!
LOL!

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