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https://www.ebay.ca/itm/154726532372?hash=item24066b8514:g:uP4AAOSwIyxhpeEh

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 by: Martin Brown - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 17:08 UTC

On 07/12/2021 16:44, RichA wrote:
> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/154726532372?hash=item24066b8514:g:uP4AAOSwIyxhpeEh
>
Price is a bit steep for a 0.5m observatory class instrument but then it
is a Maksutov so a hell of a lot of glass has to be ground to make one.

Unfortunately he doesn't ship to the UK any more because we are no
longer in the EU and the cost of extra customs paperwork, shipping and
clearance would add another 25% to that list price.

I have bought eyepieces off him in the past without any problem.
(nothing this expensive)

He now states on the listing and his website ships worldwide but does
not ship to UK.

Many other European dealers in similar esoteric kit have taken the same
approach - too much hassle to export to the UK now. Conversely shipping
from the UK to Europe has become complex, expensive and time consuming.

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On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 8:44:09 AM UTC-8, RichA wrote:
> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/154726532372?hash=item24066b8514:g:uP4AAOSwIyxhpeEh

It's in pesos?
(o:

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 by: fred k. engels® - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 21:14 UTC

WONDERFUL NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!
More Chicom launches with new spy satellites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGtnvlQoyaw

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 by: Chris L Peterson - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 21:53 UTC

On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 17:08:44 +0000, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

>On 07/12/2021 16:44, RichA wrote:
>> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/154726532372?hash=item24066b8514:g:uP4AAOSwIyxhpeEh
>>
>Price is a bit steep for a 0.5m observatory class instrument but then it
>is a Maksutov so a hell of a lot of glass has to be ground to make one.

Yeah, pretty hard to justify when you can get a new 0.5 m PlaneWave
CDK for $34,000 or a 0.7 m CDK on a computerized fork mount for
$195,000 (both with guarantees, support, and service).

>He now states on the listing and his website ships worldwide but does
>not ship to UK.

It says that because you're seeing it from the UK. From here it says
he doesn't ship to the U.S. Indeed, look at the exclusions after
"worldwide" and he basically doesn't ship anywhere. Not even to
Germany, where the telescope is located!

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 by: Martin Brown - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 21:53 UTC

On 07/12/2021 21:14, fred k. engels® wrote:
> WONDERFUL NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!
> More Chicom launches with new spy satellites:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGtnvlQoyaw

PLONK!

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On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 2:53:41 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:

> It says that because you're seeing it from the UK. From here it says
> he doesn't ship to the U.S. Indeed, look at the exclusions after
> "worldwide" and he basically doesn't ship anywhere. Not even to
> Germany, where the telescope is located!

Amazingly enough, he _does_ ship to Canada. Unfortunately, I can't
afford it.

John Savard

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 by: fred k. engels® - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 15:08 UTC

Ok folks, this thread has gone into "hot topics" that are not allowed for
discussion here.

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 by: palsing - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 15:21 UTC

On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 7:08:12 AM UTC-8, fred k. engels® wrote:
> Ok folks, this thread has gone into "hot topics" that are not allowed for
> discussion here.

Says who? Did someone die and make you king?

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On Tuesday, 7 December 2021 at 16:53:41 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 17:08:44 +0000, Martin Brown
> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >On 07/12/2021 16:44, RichA wrote:
> >> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/154726532372?hash=item24066b8514:g:uP4AAOSwIyxhpeEh
> >>
> >Price is a bit steep for a 0.5m observatory class instrument but then it
> >is a Maksutov so a hell of a lot of glass has to be ground to make one.
> Yeah, pretty hard to justify when you can get a new 0.5 m PlaneWave
> CDK for $34,000 or a 0.7 m CDK on a computerized fork mount for
> $195,000 (both with guarantees, support, and service).
> >He now states on the listing and his website ships worldwide but does
> >not ship to UK.
> It says that because you're seeing it from the UK. From here it says
> he doesn't ship to the U.S. Indeed, look at the exclusions after
> "worldwide" and he basically doesn't ship anywhere. Not even to
> Germany, where the telescope is located!

Check this out then!

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=1127&acctid=9002

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 by: fred k. engels® - Wed, 8 Dec 2021 19:21 UTC

Ok folks, it seems some are not interested in the topic of the thread;
rather pointing fingers at one another.

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On Wednesday, 8 December 2021 at 10:08:12 UTC-5, fred k. engels® wrote:
> Ok folks, this thread has gone into "hot topics" that are not allowed for
> discussion here.

im·be·cile
/ˈimbəsəl/
nouninformal
noun: imbecile; plural noun: imbeciles

a stupid person.

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 by: fred k. engels® - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 00:25 UTC

WONDERFUL NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!
Rocket Lab's Latest Electron Rocket Launch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nop1PRMiiPY
RichA is a stupid pretty picture astro photography horseshit® imbecile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3D2SVeag4I

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On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 9:01:49 AM UTC-7, RichA wrote:

> Check this out then!
>
> https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=1127&acctid=9002

That is potentially quite a bargain, to someone who is able to go to where
the telescope is located and haul it away.

John Savard

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On Thursday, 9 December 2021 at 09:14:10 UTC-5, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 9:01:49 AM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
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> > Check this out then!
> >
> > https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=1127&acctid=9002
> That is potentially quite a bargain, to someone who is able to go to where
> the telescope is located and haul it away.
>
> John Savard

They said it would need a crane to lift it out of the observatory, but taking it apart might be possible.

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On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 6:14:10 AM UTC-8, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 9:01:49 AM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
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> > Check this out then!
> >
> > https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=1127&acctid=9002
> That is potentially quite a bargain, to someone who is able to go to where
> the telescope is located and haul it away.
>
> John Savard

Not for everyone?

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 by: fred k. engels® - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 21:11 UTC

WONDERFUL NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!
Another successful launch of a Falcon 9; WAY TO GO SPACE X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3D2SVeag4I

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On Thursday, 9 December 2021 at 16:11:40 UTC-5, fred k. engels® > wrote:
> WONDERFUL NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!
> Another successful launch of a Falcon 9; WAY TO GO SPACE X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3D2SVeag4I

Ferrying crap to the odious ISS unproductive money-pit, putting satellites into orbit that ruin astronomy, "space tourism for rich people." Who cares what happens with Space-X rockets?

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On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 7:27:57 PM UTC-8, RichA wrote:
> On Thursday, 9 December 2021 at 16:11:40 UTC-5, fred k. engels® > wrote:
> > WONDERFUL NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!
> > Another successful launch of a Falcon 9; WAY TO GO SPACE X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3D2SVeag4I
> Ferrying crap to the odious ISS unproductive money-pit, putting satellites into orbit that ruin astronomy, "space tourism for rich people." Who cares what happens with Space-X rockets?

I think, you missed my post from a few days ago?

https://bigthink.com/the-future/spinlaunch-company-hurls-satellites-into-space-using-giant-spinning-machine/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1638803131

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On Thursday, 9 December 2021 at 23:06:37 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 7:27:57 PM UTC-8, RichA wrote:
> > On Thursday, 9 December 2021 at 16:11:40 UTC-5, fred k. engels® > wrote:
> > > WONDERFUL NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > Another successful launch of a Falcon 9; WAY TO GO SPACE X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3D2SVeag4I
> > Ferrying crap to the odious ISS unproductive money-pit, putting satellites into orbit that ruin astronomy, "space tourism for rich people." Who cares what happens with Space-X rockets?
> I think, you missed my post from a few days ago?
>
> https://bigthink.com/the-future/spinlaunch-company-hurls-satellites-into-space-using-giant-spinning-machine/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1638803131

Like to see the stress figures for the machine and the objects it'll hurl. This is like using cannons to orbit objects.

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 by: Martin Brown - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 09:34 UTC

On 09/12/2021 15:43, RichA wrote:
> On Thursday, 9 December 2021 at 09:14:10 UTC-5, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 9:01:49 AM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
>>
>>> Check this out then!
>>>
>>> https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=1127&acctid=9002
>> That is potentially quite a bargain, to someone who is able to go to where
>> the telescope is located and haul it away.
>>
>> John Savard
>
> They said it would need a crane to lift it out of the observatory, but taking it apart might be possible.

It would easily split down to the OTA and the base. The OTA would
probably be a safe lift for two reasonably fit men, one guy who eats 3
wheatabix for breakfast or a block and tackle.

The base and drive might be more of a problem for weight but a forklift
would probably not have much bother moving it around.

Last time I recall moving an observatory class Grubb Parson 18" f5
Newtonian with a cast iron fork mount it did require a crane (and also
to reassemble the dome around it). It was a scale model prototype for
the scope now at Pretoria observatory and once belonged to the inventor
of the iron lung Captain G T Smith-Clarke also founder of Alvin motors.

Very much of its time it had a 359 toothed wheel on the RA to give close
to sidereal tracking from a mains synchronous motor!

Pleased to say he now has a blue plaque on his birthplace:

https://www.kidderminstershuttle.co.uk/news/4273390.bewdley-unveils-plaque-for-engineer/

The 18" scope was later donated to Jodrell Bank (he had input on making
that work) and thence to Salford Astronomical Society where it is today.
Other examples of his work survive in the midlands. It was unusual in
that it has provision on the hollow Dec axis for a Naysmith focus
(although the optics required to do that have been lost).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Nasmyth

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

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On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 4:34:16 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:

> > They said it would need a crane to lift it out of the observatory, but taking it apart might be possible.
> It would easily split down to the OTA and the base. The OTA would
> probably be a safe lift for two reasonably fit men, one guy who eats 3
> wheatabix for breakfast or a block and tackle.
>
> The base and drive might be more of a problem for weight but a forklift
> would probably not have much bother moving it around.

The telescope, mount and parts thereof would need to be physically small enough to fit through the doors, stairwells, elevators and hallways that lead to the outside. That could be why they suggested using a crane.

Once you got it home, you could very well have difficulties making adjustments in the mount if your latitude is different from that of its current location.

For what this bargain would really cost, I would rather go for a Dob of larger size, shorter f-ratio.

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On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 06:23:18 -0800 (PST), W <wsnell01@hotmail.com>
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>On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 4:34:16 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:
>
>> > They said it would need a crane to lift it out of the observatory, but taking it apart might be possible.
>> It would easily split down to the OTA and the base. The OTA would
>> probably be a safe lift for two reasonably fit men, one guy who eats 3
>> wheatabix for breakfast or a block and tackle.
>>
>> The base and drive might be more of a problem for weight but a forklift
>> would probably not have much bother moving it around.
>
>The telescope, mount and parts thereof would need to be physically small enough to fit through the doors, stairwells, elevators and hallways that lead to the outside. That could be why they suggested using a crane.
>
>Once you got it home, you could very well have difficulties making adjustments in the mount if your latitude is different from that of its current location.
>
>For what this bargain would really cost, I would rather go for a Dob of larger size, shorter f-ratio.

Apples and organges. This is an imaging system. A Dob is for people
who want to look through an eyepiece.

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On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 3:03:31 PM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 06:23:18 -0800 (PST), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 4:34:16 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:
> >
> >> > They said it would need a crane to lift it out of the observatory, but taking it apart might be possible.
> >> It would easily split down to the OTA and the base. The OTA would
> >> probably be a safe lift for two reasonably fit men, one guy who eats 3
> >> wheatabix for breakfast or a block and tackle.
> >>
> >> The base and drive might be more of a problem for weight but a forklift
> >> would probably not have much bother moving it around.
> >
> >The telescope, mount and parts thereof would need to be physically small enough to fit through the doors, stairwells, elevators and hallways that lead to the outside. That could be why they suggested using a crane.
> >
> >Once you got it home, you could very well have difficulties making adjustments in the mount if your latitude is different from that of its current location.
> >
> >For what this bargain would really cost, I would rather go for a Dob of larger size, shorter f-ratio.
> Apples and organges. This is an imaging system. A Dob is for people
> who want to look through an eyepiece.

It is possible to have an "imaging system" and a Dob. The Model 131 is a telescope, not an "imaging system."

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On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 15:58:05 -0800 (PST), W <wsnell01@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 3:03:31 PM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 06:23:18 -0800 (PST), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 4:34:16 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:
>> >
>> >> > They said it would need a crane to lift it out of the observatory, but taking it apart might be possible.
>> >> It would easily split down to the OTA and the base. The OTA would
>> >> probably be a safe lift for two reasonably fit men, one guy who eats 3
>> >> wheatabix for breakfast or a block and tackle.
>> >>
>> >> The base and drive might be more of a problem for weight but a forklift
>> >> would probably not have much bother moving it around.
>> >
>> >The telescope, mount and parts thereof would need to be physically small enough to fit through the doors, stairwells, elevators and hallways that lead to the outside. That could be why they suggested using a crane.
>> >
>> >Once you got it home, you could very well have difficulties making adjustments in the mount if your latitude is different from that of its current location.
>> >
>> >For what this bargain would really cost, I would rather go for a Dob of larger size, shorter f-ratio.
>> Apples and organges. This is an imaging system. A Dob is for people
>> who want to look through an eyepiece.
>
>It is possible to have an "imaging system" and a Dob. The Model 131 is a telescope, not an "imaging system."

It is a telescope designed for imaging. A dob is not.

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