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* Another one of those awful assault weaponsTom Kunich
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Subject: Another one of those awful assault weapons
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 by: Tom Kunich - Mon, 16 Jan 2023 19:07 UTC

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/mossberg-mvp-patrol-300-blackout-review/467874/?utm_source=GATdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1_16

Does this look like an AR15? Why do you supposed that it is DEFINED as an assault weapon to Krygowski and his ilk? Simply because it has a removeable clip.

For those without any knowledge in the area, the M1A1 Garand that won WW II did not have a removeable clip. It used clips that were pushed in the top of the rifle and could seriously injure your fingers if done improperly but they automatically loaded a live round into the chamber whereas a removeable clip does not. You have to manually load the next round or have a mechanism that is actuated by pushing the clip in to load a live round. This mechanism is primed by firing an entire clip and then at the end of the clip, the mechanism remains open and doesn't close and reload a fresh round until a clip is shoved into place.

There is NO real difference between a normal semiautomatic rifle and an assault weapon.

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Tue, 17 Jan 2023 02:19 UTC

On 1/16/2023 2:07 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/mossberg-mvp-patrol-300-blackout-review/467874/?utm_source=GATdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1_16
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> Does this look like an AR15? Why do you supposed that it is DEFINED as an assault weapon to Krygowski and his ilk? Simply because it has a removeable clip....

I've never said a word about that gun.

And oddly, it's hard for me to see what that post has to do with
bicycling. Weren't you going to stop posting non-bike stuff? Did you forget?

--
- Frank Krygowski

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 by: funkma...@hotmail.co - Tue, 17 Jan 2023 09:54 UTC

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:07:10 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/mossberg-mvp-patrol-300-blackout-review/467874/?utm_source=GATdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1_16
>
> Does this look like an AR15? Why do you supposed that it is DEFINED as an assault weapon to Krygowski and his ilk? Simply because it has a removeable clip.
>
> For those without any knowledge in the area, the M1A1 Garand that won WW II did not have a removeable clip. It used clips that were pushed in the top of the rifle and could seriously injure your fingers if done improperly but they automatically loaded a live round into the chamber whereas a removeable clip does not. You have to manually load the next round or have a mechanism that is actuated by pushing the clip in to load a live round. This mechanism is primed by firing an entire clip and then at the end of the clip, the mechanism remains open and doesn't close and reload a fresh round until a clip is shoved into place.
>
> There is NO real difference between a normal semiautomatic rifle and an assault weapon.

On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>
> This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.

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On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:07:08 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/mossberg-mvp-patrol-300-blackout-review/467874/?utm_source=GATdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1_16
>
>Does this look like an AR15? Why do you supposed that it is DEFINED as an assault weapon to Krygowski and his ilk? Simply because it has a removeable clip.
>
>For those without any knowledge in the area, the M1A1 Garand that won WW II did not have a removeable clip. It used clips that were pushed in the top of the rifle and could seriously injure your fingers if done improperly but they automatically loaded a live round into the chamber whereas a removeable clip does not. You have to manually load the next round or have a mechanism that is actuated by pushing the clip in to load a live round. This mechanism is primed by firing an entire clip and then at the end of the clip, the mechanism remains open and doesn't close and reload a fresh round until a clip is shoved into place.
>
>There is NO real difference between a normal semiautomatic rifle and an assault weapon.

A real assault weapon is full automitc, but the guns that the loonies
call "assault weapons" have a pistol grips which make them "rapid
fire."

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 by: Tom Kunich - Tue, 17 Jan 2023 16:36 UTC

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 3:32:54 AM UTC-8, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:07:08 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/mossberg-mvp-patrol-300-blackout-review/467874/?utm_source=GATdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1_16
> >
> >Does this look like an AR15? Why do you supposed that it is DEFINED as an assault weapon to Krygowski and his ilk? Simply because it has a removeable clip.
> >
> >For those without any knowledge in the area, the M1A1 Garand that won WW II did not have a removeable clip. It used clips that were pushed in the top of the rifle and could seriously injure your fingers if done improperly but they automatically loaded a live round into the chamber whereas a removeable clip does not. You have to manually load the next round or have a mechanism that is actuated by pushing the clip in to load a live round. This mechanism is primed by firing an entire clip and then at the end of the clip, the mechanism remains open and doesn't close and reload a fresh round until a clip is shoved into place.
> >
> >There is NO real difference between a normal semiautomatic rifle and an assault weapon.
> A real assault weapon is full automitc, but the guns that the loonies
> call "assault weapons" have a pistol grips which make them "rapid
> fire."

You know and I know and John knows that "assault weapons" are military fully auto or partial automatic fire. But the leftist define them not as military weapons but as anything with a removeable clip. The weapon I showed is almost identical to the WW II A1 carbine which didn't have a removeable clip so one is a rifle that you can own and the other an assault weapon that according to Krygowski is used SPECIFICALLY to kill children.

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 by: Andre Jute - Fri, 20 Jan 2023 19:16 UTC

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 4:36:08 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 3:32:54 AM UTC-8, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:07:08 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/mossberg-mvp-patrol-300-blackout-review/467874/?utm_source=GATdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1_16
> > >
> > >Does this look like an AR15? Why do you supposed that it is DEFINED as an assault weapon to Krygowski and his ilk? Simply because it has a removeable clip.
> > >
> > >For those without any knowledge in the area, the M1A1 Garand that won WW II did not have a removeable clip. It used clips that were pushed in the top of the rifle and could seriously injure your fingers if done improperly but they automatically loaded a live round into the chamber whereas a removeable clip does not. You have to manually load the next round or have a mechanism that is actuated by pushing the clip in to load a live round. This mechanism is primed by firing an entire clip and then at the end of the clip, the mechanism remains open and doesn't close and reload a fresh round until a clip is shoved into place.
> > >
> > >There is NO real difference between a normal semiautomatic rifle and an assault weapon.
> > A real assault weapon is full automitc, but the guns that the loonies
> > call "assault weapons" have a pistol grips which make them "rapid
> > fire."
> You know and I know and John knows that "assault weapons" are military fully auto or partial automatic fire. But the leftist define them not as military weapons but as anything with a removeable clip. The weapon I showed is almost identical to the WW II A1 carbine which didn't have a removeable clip so one is a rifle that you can own and the other an assault weapon that according to Krygowski is used SPECIFICALLY to kill children.
>
In any event, it seems to me very likely that the little ghetto gangbangers on the whole aspire not to long guns but to *machine-pistols* like the Uzi etc. They don't want to aim at people and kill them one by one. It's a territorial matter: they want to spray anyone who is on their patch with the maximum number of bullets in the shortest possible time frame before the driver burns rubber to transport them to safety before anyone can return fire.
>
Krygowski's problem is basically that *white people* get killed by ARx, but that's because he's a racist, like most left-wingers and donkey-party members, and an irrational idiot on top of that. You can't explain to someone who doesn't want to listen, and Franki-boy made up his void of a mind while he still lay in his cot, and no new facts have been permitted entry since.
>
I've never owned a pistol (except the pieces issued as compulsory uniform items in the various militaries I've belonged to, and the only ones I ever fired except on a range under the supervision of a grizzled sergeant belonged to muggers from whom I took them and promptly used them on the muggers) and my long guns, all of which I inherited, spent most of their time in my care in my gunsmith's safe in countries where one would have to beg a magistrate to let you own as much as a shotgun for shooting hares, and I don't kill animals I don't want to eat. So I'm by no means a gun nut, but even I can see that the American anti-gun lobby is on a hiding to nothing, mainly because they're going at it like a bull in a china shop, trying to impress everyone with their self-appointed moral superiority -- when everyone can see that they're scum.
>
Personally, if I took a commission from the gubmint to persuade (note the choice of vocabulary) you guys to give up your firearms voluntarily, I would first -- nah, why should I give tips to such an offensive ingrate as Krygowski? The last time I helped him out, by explaining how cycling was actually safer than he claimed it was, he ran away with my numbers without bothering to thank me, indeed, he lied that I was shouting "danger, danger" when in fact it was Krygowski himself shouting "danger, danger".
>
Anyhow, as we used to say in Oz, it would be much more amusing to see them try with their counterproductive and hopefully dangerous methods to take your firearms away...
>
Andre Jute
Actions have consequences, Franki-boy.
>

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 by: Tom Kunich - Fri, 20 Jan 2023 19:55 UTC

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 11:16:19 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 4:36:08 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 3:32:54 AM UTC-8, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > > On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:07:08 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/mossberg-mvp-patrol-300-blackout-review/467874/?utm_source=GATdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1_16
> > > >
> > > >Does this look like an AR15? Why do you supposed that it is DEFINED as an assault weapon to Krygowski and his ilk? Simply because it has a removeable clip.
> > > >
> > > >For those without any knowledge in the area, the M1A1 Garand that won WW II did not have a removeable clip. It used clips that were pushed in the top of the rifle and could seriously injure your fingers if done improperly but they automatically loaded a live round into the chamber whereas a removeable clip does not. You have to manually load the next round or have a mechanism that is actuated by pushing the clip in to load a live round. This mechanism is primed by firing an entire clip and then at the end of the clip, the mechanism remains open and doesn't close and reload a fresh round until a clip is shoved into place.
> > > >
> > > >There is NO real difference between a normal semiautomatic rifle and an assault weapon.
> > > A real assault weapon is full automitc, but the guns that the loonies
> > > call "assault weapons" have a pistol grips which make them "rapid
> > > fire."
> > You know and I know and John knows that "assault weapons" are military fully auto or partial automatic fire. But the leftist define them not as military weapons but as anything with a removeable clip. The weapon I showed is almost identical to the WW II A1 carbine which didn't have a removeable clip so one is a rifle that you can own and the other an assault weapon that according to Krygowski is used SPECIFICALLY to kill children.
> >
> In any event, it seems to me very likely that the little ghetto gangbangers on the whole aspire not to long guns but to *machine-pistols* like the Uzi etc. They don't want to aim at people and kill them one by one. It's a territorial matter: they want to spray anyone who is on their patch with the maximum number of bullets in the shortest possible time frame before the driver burns rubber to transport them to safety before anyone can return fire.
> >
> Krygowski's problem is basically that *white people* get killed by ARx, but that's because he's a racist, like most left-wingers and donkey-party members, and an irrational idiot on top of that. You can't explain to someone who doesn't want to listen, and Franki-boy made up his void of a mind while he still lay in his cot, and no new facts have been permitted entry since..
> >
> I've never owned a pistol (except the pieces issued as compulsory uniform items in the various militaries I've belonged to, and the only ones I ever fired except on a range under the supervision of a grizzled sergeant belonged to muggers from whom I took them and promptly used them on the muggers) and my long guns, all of which I inherited, spent most of their time in my care in my gunsmith's safe in countries where one would have to beg a magistrate to let you own as much as a shotgun for shooting hares, and I don't kill animals I don't want to eat. So I'm by no means a gun nut, but even I can see that the American anti-gun lobby is on a hiding to nothing, mainly because they're going at it like a bull in a china shop, trying to impress everyone with their self-appointed moral superiority -- when everyone can see that they're scum.
> >
> Personally, if I took a commission from the gubmint to persuade (note the choice of vocabulary) you guys to give up your firearms voluntarily, I would first -- nah, why should I give tips to such an offensive ingrate as Krygowski? The last time I helped him out, by explaining how cycling was actually safer than he claimed it was, he ran away with my numbers without bothering to thank me, indeed, he lied that I was shouting "danger, danger" when in fact it was Krygowski himself shouting "danger, danger".
> >
> Anyhow, as we used to say in Oz, it would be much more amusing to see them try with their counterproductive and hopefully dangerous methods to take your firearms away...
> >
> Andre Jute
> Actions have consequences, Franki-boy.
> >
Despite Frank being a backwater communist who would steal another's income at the drop of a helmet he isn't happy about Washington State's decision to stop prosecuting cyclists for not wearing helmets since statistical analysis showed it to be racist. Franky boy reserves the right to be as racist as he likes.

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 by: AMuzi - Fri, 20 Jan 2023 20:00 UTC

On 1/20/2023 1:16 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 4:36:08 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 3:32:54 AM UTC-8, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:07:08 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/mossberg-mvp-patrol-300-blackout-review/467874/?utm_source=GATdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1_16
>>>>
>>>> Does this look like an AR15? Why do you supposed that it is DEFINED as an assault weapon to Krygowski and his ilk? Simply because it has a removeable clip.
>>>>
>>>> For those without any knowledge in the area, the M1A1 Garand that won WW II did not have a removeable clip. It used clips that were pushed in the top of the rifle and could seriously injure your fingers if done improperly but they automatically loaded a live round into the chamber whereas a removeable clip does not. You have to manually load the next round or have a mechanism that is actuated by pushing the clip in to load a live round. This mechanism is primed by firing an entire clip and then at the end of the clip, the mechanism remains open and doesn't close and reload a fresh round until a clip is shoved into place.
>>>>
>>>> There is NO real difference between a normal semiautomatic rifle and an assault weapon.
>>> A real assault weapon is full automitc, but the guns that the loonies
>>> call "assault weapons" have a pistol grips which make them "rapid
>>> fire."
>> You know and I know and John knows that "assault weapons" are military fully auto or partial automatic fire. But the leftist define them not as military weapons but as anything with a removeable clip. The weapon I showed is almost identical to the WW II A1 carbine which didn't have a removeable clip so one is a rifle that you can own and the other an assault weapon that according to Krygowski is used SPECIFICALLY to kill children.
>>
> In any event, it seems to me very likely that the little ghetto gangbangers on the whole aspire not to long guns but to *machine-pistols* like the Uzi etc. They don't want to aim at people and kill them one by one. It's a territorial matter: they want to spray anyone who is on their patch with the maximum number of bullets in the shortest possible time frame before the driver burns rubber to transport them to safety before anyone can return fire.
>>
> Krygowski's problem is basically that *white people* get killed by ARx, but that's because he's a racist, like most left-wingers and donkey-party members, and an irrational idiot on top of that. You can't explain to someone who doesn't want to listen, and Franki-boy made up his void of a mind while he still lay in his cot, and no new facts have been permitted entry since.
>>
> I've never owned a pistol (except the pieces issued as compulsory uniform items in the various militaries I've belonged to, and the only ones I ever fired except on a range under the supervision of a grizzled sergeant belonged to muggers from whom I took them and promptly used them on the muggers) and my long guns, all of which I inherited, spent most of their time in my care in my gunsmith's safe in countries where one would have to beg a magistrate to let you own as much as a shotgun for shooting hares, and I don't kill animals I don't want to eat. So I'm by no means a gun nut, but even I can see that the American anti-gun lobby is on a hiding to nothing, mainly because they're going at it like a bull in a china shop, trying to impress everyone with their self-appointed moral superiority -- when everyone can see that they're scum.
>>
> Personally, if I took a commission from the gubmint to persuade (note the choice of vocabulary) you guys to give up your firearms voluntarily, I would first -- nah, why should I give tips to such an offensive ingrate as Krygowski? The last time I helped him out, by explaining how cycling was actually safer than he claimed it was, he ran away with my numbers without bothering to thank me, indeed, he lied that I was shouting "danger, danger" when in fact it was Krygowski himself shouting "danger, danger".
>>
> Anyhow, as we used to say in Oz, it would be much more amusing to see them try with their counterproductive and hopefully dangerous methods to take your firearms away...
>>
> Andre Jute
> Actions have consequences, Franki-boy.
>>

While full auto pistols outnumber full-auto rifles, both are
quite rare in criminal use.

Almost all the gang shootings are regular semi pistols,
mostly 9mm, because those are more popular and so more
commonly stolen.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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 by: Tom Kunich - Fri, 20 Jan 2023 20:18 UTC

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 12:01:02 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/20/2023 1:16 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 4:36:08 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 3:32:54 AM UTC-8, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:07:08 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> >>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/mossberg-mvp-patrol-300-blackout-review/467874/?utm_source=GATdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1_16
> >>>>
> >>>> Does this look like an AR15? Why do you supposed that it is DEFINED as an assault weapon to Krygowski and his ilk? Simply because it has a removeable clip.
> >>>>
> >>>> For those without any knowledge in the area, the M1A1 Garand that won WW II did not have a removeable clip. It used clips that were pushed in the top of the rifle and could seriously injure your fingers if done improperly but they automatically loaded a live round into the chamber whereas a removeable clip does not. You have to manually load the next round or have a mechanism that is actuated by pushing the clip in to load a live round. This mechanism is primed by firing an entire clip and then at the end of the clip, the mechanism remains open and doesn't close and reload a fresh round until a clip is shoved into place.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is NO real difference between a normal semiautomatic rifle and an assault weapon.
> >>> A real assault weapon is full automitc, but the guns that the loonies
> >>> call "assault weapons" have a pistol grips which make them "rapid
> >>> fire."
> >> You know and I know and John knows that "assault weapons" are military fully auto or partial automatic fire. But the leftist define them not as military weapons but as anything with a removeable clip. The weapon I showed is almost identical to the WW II A1 carbine which didn't have a removeable clip so one is a rifle that you can own and the other an assault weapon that according to Krygowski is used SPECIFICALLY to kill children.
> >>
> > In any event, it seems to me very likely that the little ghetto gangbangers on the whole aspire not to long guns but to *machine-pistols* like the Uzi etc. They don't want to aim at people and kill them one by one. It's a territorial matter: they want to spray anyone who is on their patch with the maximum number of bullets in the shortest possible time frame before the driver burns rubber to transport them to safety before anyone can return fire.
> >>
> > Krygowski's problem is basically that *white people* get killed by ARx, but that's because he's a racist, like most left-wingers and donkey-party members, and an irrational idiot on top of that. You can't explain to someone who doesn't want to listen, and Franki-boy made up his void of a mind while he still lay in his cot, and no new facts have been permitted entry since.
> >>
> > I've never owned a pistol (except the pieces issued as compulsory uniform items in the various militaries I've belonged to, and the only ones I ever fired except on a range under the supervision of a grizzled sergeant belonged to muggers from whom I took them and promptly used them on the muggers) and my long guns, all of which I inherited, spent most of their time in my care in my gunsmith's safe in countries where one would have to beg a magistrate to let you own as much as a shotgun for shooting hares, and I don't kill animals I don't want to eat. So I'm by no means a gun nut, but even I can see that the American anti-gun lobby is on a hiding to nothing, mainly because they're going at it like a bull in a china shop, trying to impress everyone with their self-appointed moral superiority -- when everyone can see that they're scum.
> >>
> > Personally, if I took a commission from the gubmint to persuade (note the choice of vocabulary) you guys to give up your firearms voluntarily, I would first -- nah, why should I give tips to such an offensive ingrate as Krygowski? The last time I helped him out, by explaining how cycling was actually safer than he claimed it was, he ran away with my numbers without bothering to thank me, indeed, he lied that I was shouting "danger, danger" when in fact it was Krygowski himself shouting "danger, danger".
> >>
> > Anyhow, as we used to say in Oz, it would be much more amusing to see them try with their counterproductive and hopefully dangerous methods to take your firearms away...
> >>
> > Andre Jute
> > Actions have consequences, Franki-boy.
> >>
> While full auto pistols outnumber full-auto rifles, both are
> quite rare in criminal use.
>
> Almost all the gang shootings are regular semi pistols,
> mostly 9mm, because those are more popular and so more
> commonly stolen.
>
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Machine pistols are quite common since they are the choice for secret service and other body guards making them common enough for theft.

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 by: Andre Jute - Sat, 21 Jan 2023 14:33 UTC

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 8:18:17 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 12:01:02 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 1/20/2023 1:16 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 4:36:08 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 3:32:54 AM UTC-8, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > >>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:07:08 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > >>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/mossberg-mvp-patrol-300-blackout-review/467874/?utm_source=GATdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1_16
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Does this look like an AR15? Why do you supposed that it is DEFINED as an assault weapon to Krygowski and his ilk? Simply because it has a removeable clip.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For those without any knowledge in the area, the M1A1 Garand that won WW II did not have a removeable clip. It used clips that were pushed in the top of the rifle and could seriously injure your fingers if done improperly but they automatically loaded a live round into the chamber whereas a removeable clip does not. You have to manually load the next round or have a mechanism that is actuated by pushing the clip in to load a live round. This mechanism is primed by firing an entire clip and then at the end of the clip, the mechanism remains open and doesn't close and reload a fresh round until a clip is shoved into place.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There is NO real difference between a normal semiautomatic rifle and an assault weapon.
> > >>> A real assault weapon is full automitc, but the guns that the loonies
> > >>> call "assault weapons" have a pistol grips which make them "rapid
> > >>> fire."
> > >> You know and I know and John knows that "assault weapons" are military fully auto or partial automatic fire. But the leftist define them not as military weapons but as anything with a removeable clip. The weapon I showed is almost identical to the WW II A1 carbine which didn't have a removeable clip so one is a rifle that you can own and the other an assault weapon that according to Krygowski is used SPECIFICALLY to kill children.
> > >>
> > > In any event, it seems to me very likely that the little ghetto gangbangers on the whole aspire not to long guns but to *machine-pistols* like the Uzi etc. They don't want to aim at people and kill them one by one. It's a territorial matter: they want to spray anyone who is on their patch with the maximum number of bullets in the shortest possible time frame before the driver burns rubber to transport them to safety before anyone can return fire.
> > >>
> > > Krygowski's problem is basically that *white people* get killed by ARx, but that's because he's a racist, like most left-wingers and donkey-party members, and an irrational idiot on top of that. You can't explain to someone who doesn't want to listen, and Franki-boy made up his void of a mind while he still lay in his cot, and no new facts have been permitted entry since.
> > >>
> > > I've never owned a pistol (except the pieces issued as compulsory uniform items in the various militaries I've belonged to, and the only ones I ever fired except on a range under the supervision of a grizzled sergeant belonged to muggers from whom I took them and promptly used them on the muggers) and my long guns, all of which I inherited, spent most of their time in my care in my gunsmith's safe in countries where one would have to beg a magistrate to let you own as much as a shotgun for shooting hares, and I don't kill animals I don't want to eat. So I'm by no means a gun nut, but even I can see that the American anti-gun lobby is on a hiding to nothing, mainly because they're going at it like a bull in a china shop, trying to impress everyone with their self-appointed moral superiority -- when everyone can see that they're scum.
> > >>
> > > Personally, if I took a commission from the gubmint to persuade (note the choice of vocabulary) you guys to give up your firearms voluntarily, I would first -- nah, why should I give tips to such an offensive ingrate as Krygowski? The last time I helped him out, by explaining how cycling was actually safer than he claimed it was, he ran away with my numbers without bothering to thank me, indeed, he lied that I was shouting "danger, danger" when in fact it was Krygowski himself shouting "danger, danger".
> > >>
> > > Anyhow, as we used to say in Oz, it would be much more amusing to see them try with their counterproductive and hopefully dangerous methods to take your firearms away...
> > >>
> > > Andre Jute
> > > Actions have consequences, Franki-boy.
> > >>
> > While full auto pistols outnumber full-auto rifles, both are
> > quite rare in criminal use.
> >
> > Almost all the gang shootings are regular semi pistols,
> > mostly 9mm, because those are more popular and so more
> > commonly stolen.
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Muzi
> > <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> Machine pistols are quite common since they are the choice for secret service and other body guards making them common enough for theft.
>
Thanks for the information gentlemen. My information came from a specialist small-arms dealer to European and Middle-Eastern governments and the security forces of large corporations, and of course African irredentists. I hasten to add that I knew him because I employed his niece. -- AJ

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