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if you can't stop time you cannot make it go backward.
NO event horizon Light speed free fall.
NO BH's show atoms cannot be pushed
to light speed or beyond.

Mitchell Raemsch

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From: r.hac...@tiscali.fr (Richard Hachel)
 by: Richard Hachel - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 23:55 UTC

Le 10/12/2021 à 00:49, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit :
> if you can't stop time you cannot make it go backward.
> NO event horizon Light speed free fall.
> NO BH's show atoms cannot be pushed
> to light speed or beyond.
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

We can possibly stop time.
But hey, LOL, I don't really see the practical point, except for designing
the pieces of cheese in the fridge.
As for reversing the flow of time, it's a good science fiction subject,
like the delicious Tinkerbell. It is physically impossible and
intellectually absurd. This is made for children.
Like the interstellar ships that go faster than light. I read this in A.E.
Van Vogt and Isaac Asimov.
But they're not experienced relativistic physicists. Just writers.

R.H.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 02:50 UTC

On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 3:56:01 PM UTC-8, Richard Hachel wrote:
> Le 10/12/2021 à 00:49, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit :
> > if you can't stop time you cannot make it go backward.
> > NO event horizon Light speed free fall.
> > NO BH's show atoms cannot be pushed
> > to light speed or beyond.
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> We can possibly stop time.

That is not a possibility.

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: Reese Page - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 12:05 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> if you can't stop time you cannot make it go backward.
> NO event horizon Light speed free fall.
> NO BH's show atoms cannot be pushed to light speed or beyond.

they can. That's what they are doing at the large hadron collider. They
build millimeter size black holes. Black holes brings you back in time.
However, without deleting memories. I'm not so sure.

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 by: Donn Baca - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 17:04 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 3:56:01 PM UTC-8, Richard Hachel wrote:
>> Le 10/12/2021 à 00:49, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit :
>> > if you can't stop time you cannot make it go backward.
>> > NO event horizon Light speed free fall.
>> > NO BH's show atoms cannot be pushed to light speed or beyond.
>> >
>> > Mitchell Raemsch
>> We can possibly stop time.
>
> That is not a possibility.

news for ya. If time stops, nothing makes it start again.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 19:22 UTC

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 9:04:10 AM UTC-8, Donn Baca wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 3:56:01 PM UTC-8, Richard Hachel wrote:
> >> Le 10/12/2021 à 00:49, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit :
> >> > if you can't stop time you cannot make it go backward.
> >> > NO event horizon Light speed free fall.
> >> > NO BH's show atoms cannot be pushed to light speed or beyond.
> >> >
> >> > Mitchell Raemsch
> >> We can possibly stop time.
> >
> > That is not a possibility.
> news for ya. If time stops, nothing makes it start again.

That doesn't happen...

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 by: Emmet Buchs - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 18:14 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

>> > On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 3:56:01 PM UTC-8, Richard Hachel
>> > wrote:
>> >> Le 10/12/2021 à 00:49, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit :
>> >> > if you can't stop time you cannot make it go backward.
>> >> > NO event horizon Light speed free fall.
>> >> > NO BH's show atoms cannot be pushed to light speed or beyond.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mitchell Raemsch
>> >> We can possibly stop time.
>> >
>> > That is not a possibility.
>> news for ya. If time stops, nothing makes it start again.
>
> That doesn't happen...

if light cannot escape the horizon of a blackhole, what's the time
passage inside that blackhole?? (ignore the singularity).

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 18:18 UTC

On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 10:14:54 AM UTC-8, Emmet Buchs wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> > On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 3:56:01 PM UTC-8, Richard Hachel
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Le 10/12/2021 à 00:49, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit :
> >> >> > if you can't stop time you cannot make it go backward.
> >> >> > NO event horizon Light speed free fall.
> >> >> > NO BH's show atoms cannot be pushed to light speed or beyond.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mitchell Raemsch
> >> >> We can possibly stop time.
> >> >
> >> > That is not a possibility.
> >> news for ya. If time stops, nothing makes it start again.
> >
> > That doesn't happen...
> if light cannot escape the horizon of a blackhole, what's the time
> passage inside that blackhole?? (ignore the singularity).

Because time does not end by gravity BHs don't exist.
We see supermassive gravity neutronium instead.

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 by: Emmet Buchs - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 18:27 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

>> >> news for ya. If time stops, nothing makes it start again.
>> >
>> > That doesn't happen...
>> if light cannot escape the horizon of a blackhole, what's the time
>> passage inside that blackhole?? (ignore the singularity).
>
> Because time does not end by gravity BHs don't exist.
> We see supermassive gravity neutronium instead.

hmm, does not matter what it is. If light bellow the horizon, what's the
time passage inside that horizon, disk or sphere, whatever you like it to
be.

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Subject: Re: Gamma math. You can't stop time... No Light speed propulsion.
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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 18:49 UTC

On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-8, Emmet Buchs wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> >> news for ya. If time stops, nothing makes it start again.
> >> >
> >> > That doesn't happen...
> >> if light cannot escape the horizon of a blackhole, what's the time
> >> passage inside that blackhole?? (ignore the singularity).
> >
> > Because time does not end by gravity BHs don't exist.
> > We see supermassive gravity neutronium instead.
> hmm, does not matter what it is. If light bellow the horizon, what's the
> time passage inside that horizon, disk or sphere, whatever you like it to
> be.

Gravity does not end time.. it can only slow it...

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: Emmet Buchs - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 19:01 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-8, Emmet Buchs wrote:
>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >> >> news for ya. If time stops, nothing makes it start again.
>> >> >
>> >> > That doesn't happen...
>> >> if light cannot escape the horizon of a blackhole, what's the time
>> >> passage inside that blackhole?? (ignore the singularity).
>> >
>> > Because time does not end by gravity BHs don't exist.
>> > We see supermassive gravity neutronium instead.
>> hmm, does not matter what it is. If light bellow the horizon, what's
>> the time passage inside that horizon, disk or sphere, whatever you like
>> it to be.
>
> Gravity does not end time.. it can only slow it...

slow is only above the horizon, not below. Please focus on below.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 20:47 UTC

On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:01:43 AM UTC-8, Emmet Buchs wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-8, Emmet Buchs wrote:
> >> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >> news for ya. If time stops, nothing makes it start again.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That doesn't happen...
> >> >> if light cannot escape the horizon of a blackhole, what's the time
> >> >> passage inside that blackhole?? (ignore the singularity).
> >> >
> >> > Because time does not end by gravity BHs don't exist.
> >> > We see supermassive gravity neutronium instead.
> >> hmm, does not matter what it is. If light bellow the horizon, what's
> >> the time passage inside that horizon, disk or sphere, whatever you like
> >> it to be.
> >
> > Gravity does not end time.. it can only slow it...
> slow is only above the horizon, not below. Please focus on below.

Gravity slows time everywhere but cannot end it mathematically...

Mitchell Raemsch

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