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* NY cyclist hit by carAMuzi
+* Re: NY cyclist hit by carTom Kunich
|`* Re: NY cyclist hit by carCatrike Rider
| `* Re: NY cyclist hit by carRolf Mantel
|  `* Re: NY cyclist hit by carCatrike Rider
|   `* Re: NY cyclist hit by carTom Kunich
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|+* Re: NY cyclist hit by carFrank Krygowski
||`- Re: NY cyclist hit by carAMuzi
|`* Re: NY cyclist hit by carAMuzi
| `- Re: NY cyclist hit by carJohn B.
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 by: AMuzi - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 15:40 UTC

You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous
adventure mentioned on RBT:

https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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 by: Tom Kunich - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 16:03 UTC

On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 7:40:28 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous
> adventure mentioned on RBT:
>
> https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Would it make one bit of difference if the made stayed at the scene? The cops are unlikely to do anything and the DA couldn't care less. I now expect to be killed by a person running a stop sign or a stop light without even slowing.

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 by: Catrike Rider - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 17:06 UTC

On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 08:03:15 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 7:40:28 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous
>> adventure mentioned on RBT:
>>
>> https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/
>> --
>> Andrew Muzi
>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
>Would it make one bit of difference if the made stayed at the scene? The cops are unlikely to do anything and the DA couldn't care less. I now expect to be killed by a person running a stop sign or a stop light without even slowing.

Riding in traffic is a risk. Yesterday, I checked out a new bike trail
that paralleled, sidewalk-like, a very busy 6 lane highway and had to
cross multi-laned cross streets and entrances to businesses, fast
foods, and strip malls. I hadn't planned to ride it, having already
ridden 30 miles with a 30 miles return trip facing me, but I wasn't
thrilled with the prospect of such a ride. Not only would it be all
stop and go, but vehicles turning into and out of all the cross
streets and businesses made it dangerous for bicyclists and worse for
me sitting so low.

I'll might check it out someday, maybe on a Sunday morning.

I've been "accused" of riding on suburban bikes trails, but that's not
true. I abhor suburban bike trails. 99% of my rides are on stetches of
trail a mile or more between between any interruptions.

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 by: John B. - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 23:11 UTC

On Wed, 01 Feb 2023 09:40:32 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous
>adventure mentioned on RBT:
>
>https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/

Apparently telling an auto driver that he "drives like s**t" isn't
exactly the most intelligent thing to do in NYC :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 23:34 UTC

On 2/1/2023 6:11 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Feb 2023 09:40:32 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous
>> adventure mentioned on RBT:
>>
>> https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/
>
> Apparently telling an auto driver that he "drives like s**t" isn't
> exactly the most intelligent thing to do in NYC :-)

That sort of vocabulary labels the speaker as crude and invites crude
response. It's not necessary. I've told motorists about a certain bad
move, "That was rude," and I've asked after a horn blared "Is there
something wrong with your horn?" It gets the message across, if they
have any sense. If they have no sense, obscenities won't generate any.

I remember an incident in the heart of the downtown during my ride to
work. I was in the right lane approaching a red light to go straight. A
young kid pulled out from a side street into the left lane, then got
confused about how to get into the RTO lane. He tried to zoom past me
and right hook me as we approached a red light, but couldn't do that. He
had to back up and come around behind me in the RTOL.

As he sat to my right with his driver window open, I said "You must be
new at this." By his silent scowl, I think I was right.

--
- Frank Krygowski

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 23:38 UTC

On 2/1/2023 10:40 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous adventure mentioned
> on RBT:
>
> https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/

Whoever the victim may be, hit-and-run drivers are a problem.
Hit-and-runs are a large fraction of pedestrian and bicyclist deaths.

Given the electronics in new cars these days, I'd think there could be a
software cure. Something that upon sensing a ped or cyclist impact,
would broadcast the car's location until the police arrived to shut the
system down.

--
- Frank Krygowski

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 by: AMuzi - Thu, 2 Feb 2023 01:14 UTC

On 2/1/2023 5:11 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Feb 2023 09:40:32 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous
>> adventure mentioned on RBT:
>>
>> https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/
>
> Apparently telling an auto driver that he "drives like s**t" isn't
> exactly the most intelligent thing to do in NYC :-)
>

OK, but it's usually a true statement (from my experience in
NYC).

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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 by: AMuzi - Thu, 2 Feb 2023 01:17 UTC

On 2/1/2023 5:34 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 2/1/2023 6:11 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Feb 2023 09:40:32 -0600, AMuzi
>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>
>>> You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous
>>> adventure mentioned on RBT:
>>>
>>> https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/
>>>
>>
>> Apparently telling an auto driver that he "drives like
>> s**t" isn't
>> exactly the most intelligent thing to do in NYC :-)
>
> That sort of vocabulary labels the speaker as crude and
> invites crude response. It's not necessary. I've told
> motorists about a certain bad move, "That was rude," and
> I've asked after a horn blared "Is there something wrong
> with your horn?" It gets the message across, if they have
> any sense. If they have no sense, obscenities won't generate
> any.
>
> I remember an incident in the heart of the downtown during
> my ride to work. I was in the right lane approaching a red
> light to go straight. A young kid pulled out from a side
> street into the left lane, then got confused about how to
> get into the RTO lane. He tried to zoom past me and right
> hook me as we approached a red light, but couldn't do that.
> He had to back up and come around behind me in the RTOL.
>
> As he sat to my right with his driver window open, I said
> "You must be new at this." By his silent scowl, I think I
> was right.
>

The local explanation for everything is, "Hey it's New York."

The standard pleasant NYC greeting is , "What you f**king
lookin at?". Goes downhill from there.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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 by: John B. - Thu, 2 Feb 2023 01:30 UTC

On Wed, 01 Feb 2023 19:14:03 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 2/1/2023 5:11 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Feb 2023 09:40:32 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>
>>> You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous
>>> adventure mentioned on RBT:
>>>
>>> https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/
>>
>> Apparently telling an auto driver that he "drives like s**t" isn't
>> exactly the most intelligent thing to do in NYC :-)
>>
>
>OK, but it's usually a true statement (from my experience in
>NYC).

But apparently not as dangerious as one of Franks terrifying pickup
trucks
https://abc7ny.com/ny-truck-attack-manhattan-new-york-nyc-shooting/2588484/
and they get away with it too
https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2022/10/14/no-charges-for-truck-driver-who-killed-cyclist-despite-being-on-a-no-truck-route-and-failing-to-yield/
--
Cheers,

John B.

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From: new...@hartig-mantel.de (Rolf Mantel)
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 by: Rolf Mantel - Thu, 2 Feb 2023 09:40 UTC

Am 01.02.2023 um 18:06 schrieb Catrike Rider:
> On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 08:03:15 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 7:40:28 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>>> You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous
>>> adventure mentioned on RBT:
>>>
>>> https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/
>>> --
>>> Andrew Muzi
>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>
>> Would it make one bit of difference if the made stayed at the scene? The cops are unlikely to do anything and the DA couldn't care less. I now expect to be killed by a person running a stop sign or a stop light without even slowing.
>
> Riding in traffic is a risk. Yesterday, I checked out a new bike trail
> that paralleled, sidewalk-like, a very busy 6 lane highway and had to
> cross multi-laned cross streets and entrances to businesses, fast
> foods, and strip malls.

This kind of suburban bike trail ist the most dangerous way of
travelling through suburbia. You're better off on the (shoulder of a)
6-lane higway rather than on the bike train in the direction facing traffic.

Rolf

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 by: Rolf Mantel - Thu, 2 Feb 2023 09:44 UTC

Am 02.02.2023 um 00:38 schrieb Frank Krygowski:
> On 2/1/2023 10:40 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>> You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous adventure
>> mentioned on RBT:
>>
>> https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/
>
> Whoever the victim may be, hit-and-run drivers are a problem.
> Hit-and-runs are a large fraction of pedestrian and bicyclist deaths.
>
> Given the electronics in new cars these days, I'd think there could be a
> software cure. Something that upon sensing a ped or cyclist impact,
> would broadcast the car's location until the police arrived to shut the
> system down.

The European 'mobile crash alert' (mandatory on cars new in the market
from 2020 onwards) is going along these lines: the car automatically
triggers an emergency call in case of crashes, and hitting a pedestrian
certainly is a crash.

Rolf

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 by: Catrike Rider - Thu, 2 Feb 2023 10:38 UTC

On Thu, 2 Feb 2023 10:40:00 +0100, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
wrote:

>Am 01.02.2023 um 18:06 schrieb Catrike Rider:
>> On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 08:03:15 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 7:40:28 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous
>>>> adventure mentioned on RBT:
>>>>
>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew Muzi
>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>>
>>> Would it make one bit of difference if the made stayed at the scene? The cops are unlikely to do anything and the DA couldn't care less. I now expect to be killed by a person running a stop sign or a stop light without even slowing.
>>
>> Riding in traffic is a risk. Yesterday, I checked out a new bike trail
>> that paralleled, sidewalk-like, a very busy 6 lane highway and had to
>> cross multi-laned cross streets and entrances to businesses, fast
>> foods, and strip malls.
>
>This kind of suburban bike trail ist the most dangerous way of
>travelling through suburbia. You're better off on the (shoulder of a)
>6-lane higway rather than on the bike train in the direction facing traffic.
>
>Rolf

+1

Perhaps worse riding the same direction as traffic and not seeing
vehicles behind you. I hadn't planned on riding it, I just wanted to
see what it looked like. I turned around at the first major
intersection. I'd already ridden thirty miles and had thirty more to
get home.

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 by: Tom Kunich - Fri, 3 Feb 2023 15:49 UTC

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:42:48 AM UTC-8, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Feb 2023 10:40:00 +0100, Rolf Mantel <ne...@hartig-mantel.de>
> wrote:
> >Am 01.02.2023 um 18:06 schrieb Catrike Rider:
> >> On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 08:03:15 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 7:40:28 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> >>>> You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous
> >>>> adventure mentioned on RBT:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/
> >>>> --
> >>>> Andrew Muzi
> >>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> >>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >>>
> >>> Would it make one bit of difference if the made stayed at the scene? The cops are unlikely to do anything and the DA couldn't care less. I now expect to be killed by a person running a stop sign or a stop light without even slowing.
> >>
> >> Riding in traffic is a risk. Yesterday, I checked out a new bike trail
> >> that paralleled, sidewalk-like, a very busy 6 lane highway and had to
> >> cross multi-laned cross streets and entrances to businesses, fast
> >> foods, and strip malls.
> >
> >This kind of suburban bike trail ist the most dangerous way of
> >travelling through suburbia. You're better off on the (shoulder of a)
> >6-lane higway rather than on the bike train in the direction facing traffic.
> >
> >Rolf
> +1
>
> Perhaps worse riding the same direction as traffic and not seeing
> vehicles behind you. I hadn't planned on riding it, I just wanted to
> see what it looked like. I turned around at the first major
> intersection. I'd already ridden thirty miles and had thirty more to
> get home.
I always wear bright clothing so that anyone coming from behind has absolutely no excuses.

But what happened today was pretty scary.

Some dipshit in a pickup was tailgating the car in front of him and he was going to pull up 90 degrees to the road and back up into what appeared to have been a dirt lot on my side of the road. So without paying the LEAST attention to whether there was traffic coming from the opposite direction (I assume he was trying to see over the car in front of him and around a turn) he pulled into lane going in the opposite direction which I was in and going about 18 mph he missed me by bare inches and in the process I guess he killed his motor and then proceeded to block traffic in both lanes while trying to restart the motor and then pulling into that nearly invisible space by backing in.

It's going to rain the rest of the week so it was a good thing that I was feeling good and got in 40 miles and 2300 feet of climbing. I also did a 5% grade in the big ring.

Funny thing, shorter easier rides seem harder to me and these longer rides seem easier., My top speed today was

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 by: Catrike Rider - Fri, 3 Feb 2023 16:29 UTC

On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 07:49:24 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:42:48 AM UTC-8, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Feb 2023 10:40:00 +0100, Rolf Mantel <ne...@hartig-mantel.de>
>> wrote:
>> >Am 01.02.2023 um 18:06 schrieb Catrike Rider:
>> >> On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 08:03:15 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 7:40:28 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> >>>> You may remember this famous cyclist from a previous
>> >>>> adventure mentioned on RBT:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/nyc-mcdonalds-ax-man-michael-palacios-and-his-dog-struck-in-hit-and-run/
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Andrew Muzi
>> >>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>> >>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>> >>>
>> >>> Would it make one bit of difference if the made stayed at the scene? The cops are unlikely to do anything and the DA couldn't care less. I now expect to be killed by a person running a stop sign or a stop light without even slowing.
>> >>
>> >> Riding in traffic is a risk. Yesterday, I checked out a new bike trail
>> >> that paralleled, sidewalk-like, a very busy 6 lane highway and had to
>> >> cross multi-laned cross streets and entrances to businesses, fast
>> >> foods, and strip malls.
>> >
>> >This kind of suburban bike trail ist the most dangerous way of
>> >travelling through suburbia. You're better off on the (shoulder of a)
>> >6-lane higway rather than on the bike train in the direction facing traffic.
>> >
>> >Rolf
>> +1
>>
>> Perhaps worse riding the same direction as traffic and not seeing
>> vehicles behind you. I hadn't planned on riding it, I just wanted to
>> see what it looked like. I turned around at the first major
>> intersection. I'd already ridden thirty miles and had thirty more to
>> get home.
>I always wear bright clothing so that anyone coming from behind has absolutely no excuses.
>
>But what happened today was pretty scary.
>
>Some dipshit in a pickup was tailgating the car in front of him and he was going to pull up 90 degrees to the road and back up into what appeared to have been a dirt lot on my side of the road. So without paying the LEAST attention to whether there was traffic coming from the opposite direction (I assume he was trying to see over the car in front of him and around a turn) he pulled into lane going in the opposite direction which I was in and going about 18 mph he missed me by bare inches and in the process I guess he killed his motor and then proceeded to block traffic in both lanes while trying to restart the motor and then pulling into that nearly invisible space by backing in.
>
>It's going to rain the rest of the week so it was a good thing that I was feeling good and got in 40 miles and 2300 feet of climbing. I also did a 5% grade in the big ring.
>
>Funny thing, shorter easier rides seem harder to me and these longer rides seem easier., My top speed today was

I dislike gaudy colors on the bike or anywhere else. I usually wear
black, but on the bike, I often have a lot of well-tanned skin
showing.

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