Feb 4th is the anniverary of Sheldon Brown's passing. RIP, Sheldon.

I'll be w/ my daughter for her birthday...also tomorrow...so am posting this
in advance of the 4th.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Brown_(bicycle_mechanic)

pH in Aptos

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:20:43 AM UTC, pH wrote:
> Feb 4th is the anniverary of Sheldon Brown's passing. RIP, Sheldon.
>
> I'll be w/ my daughter for her birthday...also tomorrow...so am posting this
> in advance of the 4th.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Brown_(bicycle_mechanic)
>
> pH in Aptos
>
RIP, Sheldon.
>
Andre Jute
Sheldon was the only bicycle mechanic ever to get an obituary in The Times of London.

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:43:55 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:20:43 AM UTC, pH wrote:
> > Feb 4th is the anniverary of Sheldon Brown's passing. RIP, Sheldon.
> >
> > I'll be w/ my daughter for her birthday...also tomorrow...so am posting this
> > in advance of the 4th.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Brown_(bicycle_mechanic)
> >
> > pH in Aptos
> >
> RIP, Sheldon.
> >
> Andre Jute
> Sheldon was the only bicycle mechanic ever to get an obituary in The Times of London.

Sheldon made a very valiant attempt to stay completely neutral in every argument and to show facts where facts would have some sort of effect. That of course had no effect on the stupid four.

On 2/5/2023 10:39 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:43:55 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:20:43 AM UTC, pH wrote:
>>> Feb 4th is the anniverary of Sheldon Brown's passing. RIP, Sheldon.
>>>
>>> I'll be w/ my daughter for her birthday...also tomorrow...so am posting this
>>> in advance of the 4th.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Brown_(bicycle_mechanic)
>>>
>>> pH in Aptos
>>>
>> RIP, Sheldon.
>>>
>> Andre Jute
>> Sheldon was the only bicycle mechanic ever to get an obituary in The Times of London.
>
> Sheldon made a very valiant attempt to stay completely neutral in every argument and to show facts where facts would have some sort of effect. That of course had no effect on the stupid four.
>

Please review RBT's infamous 'Party Doll' thread which
spanned weeks of rancor and brought out he worst in many of us.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 9:19:21 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 2/5/2023 10:39 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:43:55 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> >> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:20:43 AM UTC, pH wrote:
> >>> Feb 4th is the anniverary of Sheldon Brown's passing. RIP, Sheldon.
> >>>
> >>> I'll be w/ my daughter for her birthday...also tomorrow...so am posting this
> >>> in advance of the 4th.
> >>>
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Brown_(bicycle_mechanic)
> >>>
> >>> pH in Aptos
> >>>
> >> RIP, Sheldon.
> >>>
> >> Andre Jute
> >> Sheldon was the only bicycle mechanic ever to get an obituary in The Times of London.
> >
> > Sheldon made a very valiant attempt to stay completely neutral in every argument and to show facts where facts would have some sort of effect. That of course had no effect on the stupid four.
> >
> Please review RBT's infamous 'Party Doll' thread which
> spanned weeks of rancor and brought out he worst in many of us.

Since I have no memory of this, I did a search and found a few references to it but not the thread.

On Sun, 05 Feb 2023 11:19:17 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 2/5/2023 10:39 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:43:55 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:20:43 AM UTC, pH wrote:
>>>> Feb 4th is the anniverary of Sheldon Brown's passing. RIP, Sheldon.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be w/ my daughter for her birthday...also tomorrow...so am posting this
>>>> in advance of the 4th.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Brown_(bicycle_mechanic)
>>>>
>>>> pH in Aptos
>>>>
>>> RIP, Sheldon.
>>>>
>>> Andre Jute
>>> Sheldon was the only bicycle mechanic ever to get an obituary in The Times of London.
>>
>> Sheldon made a very valiant attempt to stay completely neutral in every argument and to show facts where facts would have some sort of effect. That of course had no effect on the stupid four.
>>
>
>Please review RBT's infamous 'Party Doll' thread which
>spanned weeks of rancor and brought out he worst in many of us.

You mean this forum used to be more rancorous than it is now?

On 2/5/2023 12:25 PM, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Feb 2023 11:19:17 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2/5/2023 10:39 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:43:55 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:20:43 AM UTC, pH wrote:
>>>>> Feb 4th is the anniverary of Sheldon Brown's passing. RIP, Sheldon.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be w/ my daughter for her birthday...also tomorrow...so am posting this
>>>>> in advance of the 4th.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Brown_(bicycle_mechanic)
>>>>>
>>>>> pH in Aptos
>>>>>
>>>> RIP, Sheldon.
>>>>>
>>>> Andre Jute
>>>> Sheldon was the only bicycle mechanic ever to get an obituary in The Times of London.
>>>
>>> Sheldon made a very valiant attempt to stay completely neutral in every argument and to show facts where facts would have some sort of effect. That of course had no effect on the stupid four.
>>>
>>
>> Please review RBT's infamous 'Party Doll' thread which
>> spanned weeks of rancor and brought out he worst in many of us.
>
> You mean this forum used to be more rancorous than it is now?
>

Sometimes.
That is the egregious example. I thought it would never end
and I was party to it.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:09:12 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 2/5/2023 12:25 PM, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > On Sun, 05 Feb 2023 11:19:17 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2/5/2023 10:39 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:43:55 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:20:43 AM UTC, pH wrote:
> >>>>> Feb 4th is the anniverary of Sheldon Brown's passing. RIP, Sheldon.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'll be w/ my daughter for her birthday...also tomorrow...so am posting this
> >>>>> in advance of the 4th.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Brown_(bicycle_mechanic)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> pH in Aptos
> >>>>>
> >>>> RIP, Sheldon.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Andre Jute
> >>>> Sheldon was the only bicycle mechanic ever to get an obituary in The Times of London.
> >>>
> >>> Sheldon made a very valiant attempt to stay completely neutral in every argument and to show facts where facts would have some sort of effect. That of course had no effect on the stupid four.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Please review RBT's infamous 'Party Doll' thread which
> >> spanned weeks of rancor and brought out he worst in many of us.
> >
> > You mean this forum used to be more rancorous than it is now?
> >
> Sometimes.
> That is the egregious example. I thought it would never end
> and I was party to it.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Then I'm glad I don't remember it.

On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 8:21:00 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:09:12 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 2/5/2023 12:25 PM, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > > On Sun, 05 Feb 2023 11:19:17 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 2/5/2023 10:39 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:43:55 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > >>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:20:43 AM UTC, pH wrote:
> > >>>>> Feb 4th is the anniverary of Sheldon Brown's passing. RIP, Sheldon.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'll be w/ my daughter for her birthday...also tomorrow...so am posting this
> > >>>>> in advance of the 4th.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Brown_(bicycle_mechanic)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> pH in Aptos
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> RIP, Sheldon.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> Andre Jute
> > >>>> Sheldon was the only bicycle mechanic ever to get an obituary in The Times of London.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sheldon made a very valiant attempt to stay completely neutral in every argument and to show facts where facts would have some sort of effect. That of course had no effect on the stupid four.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Please review RBT's infamous 'Party Doll' thread which
> > >> spanned weeks of rancor and brought out he worst in many of us.
> > >
> > > You mean this forum used to be more rancorous than it is now?
> > >
> > Sometimes.
> > That is the egregious example. I thought it would never end
> > and I was party to it.
> > --
> > Andrew Muzi
> > <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> Then I'm glad I don't remember it.
>
I found it, and I don't think it is as bad, taken as a whole, as Andrew remembers, unless there was another threat on the same subject. Because I'm uncomfortable with the nastiness raised by a clown of low understanding being hurled against Sheldon's inoffensive wit in what should be a celebration of the life of a great cyclist, I've opened another thread with the correct URL and a couple of quick notes on content. The whole is worth reading:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/EohqHAc2rqs
>
Andre Jute
Now let us praise famous men. -- Ecclesiastes
>

On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 6:02:16 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 8:21:00 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:09:12 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > > On 2/5/2023 12:25 PM, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 05 Feb 2023 11:19:17 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 2/5/2023 10:39 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > >>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:43:55 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > >>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:20:43 AM UTC, pH wrote:
> > > >>>>> Feb 4th is the anniverary of Sheldon Brown's passing. RIP, Sheldon.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I'll be w/ my daughter for her birthday...also tomorrow...so am posting this
> > > >>>>> in advance of the 4th.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Brown_(bicycle_mechanic)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> pH in Aptos
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> RIP, Sheldon.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> Andre Jute
> > > >>>> Sheldon was the only bicycle mechanic ever to get an obituary in The Times of London.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Sheldon made a very valiant attempt to stay completely neutral in every argument and to show facts where facts would have some sort of effect. That of course had no effect on the stupid four.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Please review RBT's infamous 'Party Doll' thread which
> > > >> spanned weeks of rancor and brought out he worst in many of us.
> > > >
> > > > You mean this forum used to be more rancorous than it is now?
> > > >
> > > Sometimes.
> > > That is the egregious example. I thought it would never end
> > > and I was party to it.
> > > --
> > > Andrew Muzi
> > > <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> > Then I'm glad I don't remember it.
> >
> I found it, and I don't think it is as bad, taken as a whole, as Andrew remembers, unless there was another threat on the same subject. Because I'm uncomfortable with the nastiness raised by a clown of low understanding being hurled against Sheldon's inoffensive wit in what should be a celebration of the life of a great cyclist, I've opened another thread with the correct URL and a couple of quick notes on content. The whole is worth reading:
> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/EohqHAc2rqs
> >
> Andre Jute
> Now let us praise famous men. -- Ecclesiastes

You're sure to trigger Flunky and Liebermann into a shit storm since the love the idea of a President getting a blow job under the Presidential desk while holding a meeting of national urgency. After all - it must be because the contents of that meeting are still classified Top Secret.

On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 4:27:03 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 6:02:16 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 8:21:00 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:09:12 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > > > On 2/5/2023 12:25 PM, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 05 Feb 2023 11:19:17 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On 2/5/2023 10:39 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > >>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:43:55 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > > >>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:20:43 AM UTC, pH wrote:
> > > > >>>>> Feb 4th is the anniverary of Sheldon Brown's passing. RIP, Sheldon.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I'll be w/ my daughter for her birthday...also tomorrow...so am posting this
> > > > >>>>> in advance of the 4th.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Brown_(bicycle_mechanic)
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> pH in Aptos
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> RIP, Sheldon.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> Andre Jute
> > > > >>>> Sheldon was the only bicycle mechanic ever to get an obituary in The Times of London.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Sheldon made a very valiant attempt to stay completely neutral in every argument and to show facts where facts would have some sort of effect. That of course had no effect on the stupid four.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Please review RBT's infamous 'Party Doll' thread which
> > > > >> spanned weeks of rancor and brought out he worst in many of us.
> > > > >
> > > > > You mean this forum used to be more rancorous than it is now?
> > > > >
> > > > Sometimes.
> > > > That is the egregious example. I thought it would never end
> > > > and I was party to it.
> > > > --
> > > > Andrew Muzi
> > > > <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > > > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> > > Then I'm glad I don't remember it.
> > >
> > I found it, and I don't think it is as bad, taken as a whole, as Andrew remembers, unless there was another threat on the same subject. Because I'm uncomfortable with the nastiness raised by a clown of low understanding being hurled against Sheldon's inoffensive wit in what should be a celebration of the life of a great cyclist, I've opened another thread with the correct URL and a couple of quick notes on content. The whole is worth reading:
> > https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/EohqHAc2rqs
> > >
> > Andre Jute
> > Now let us praise famous men. -- Ecclesiastes
> You're sure to trigger Flunky and Liebermann into a shit storm since the love the idea of a President getting a blow job under the Presidential desk while holding a meeting of national urgency. After all - it must be because the contents of that meeting are still classified Top Secret.
>
That's the menu of the White House lunch on that day you have there, sir, a matter of the highest national security, classified beyond Top Secret! -- AJ
>

On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 3:12:24 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 4:27:03 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 6:02:16 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 8:21:00 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:09:12 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> > > > > On 2/5/2023 12:25 PM, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, 05 Feb 2023 11:19:17 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On 2/5/2023 10:39 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > >>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:43:55 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > > > >>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:20:43 AM UTC, pH wrote:
> > > > > >>>>> Feb 4th is the anniverary of Sheldon Brown's passing. RIP, Sheldon.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> I'll be w/ my daughter for her birthday...also tomorrow...so am posting this
> > > > > >>>>> in advance of the 4th.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Brown_(bicycle_mechanic)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> pH in Aptos
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> RIP, Sheldon.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>> Andre Jute
> > > > > >>>> Sheldon was the only bicycle mechanic ever to get an obituary in The Times of London.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Sheldon made a very valiant attempt to stay completely neutral in every argument and to show facts where facts would have some sort of effect. That of course had no effect on the stupid four.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Please review RBT's infamous 'Party Doll' thread which
> > > > > >> spanned weeks of rancor and brought out he worst in many of us..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You mean this forum used to be more rancorous than it is now?
> > > > > >
> > > > > Sometimes.
> > > > > That is the egregious example. I thought it would never end
> > > > > and I was party to it.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Andrew Muzi
> > > > > <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > > > > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> > > > Then I'm glad I don't remember it.
> > > >
> > > I found it, and I don't think it is as bad, taken as a whole, as Andrew remembers, unless there was another threat on the same subject. Because I'm uncomfortable with the nastiness raised by a clown of low understanding being hurled against Sheldon's inoffensive wit in what should be a celebration of the life of a great cyclist, I've opened another thread with the correct URL and a couple of quick notes on content. The whole is worth reading:
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/EohqHAc2rqs
> > > >
> > > Andre Jute
> > > Now let us praise famous men. -- Ecclesiastes
> > You're sure to trigger Flunky and Liebermann into a shit storm since the love the idea of a President getting a blow job under the Presidential desk while holding a meeting of national urgency. After all - it must be because the contents of that meeting are still classified Top Secret.
> >
> That's the menu of the White House lunch on that day you have there, sir, a matter of the highest national security, classified beyond Top Secret! -- AJ
> >

Unlike the lyers of the stupid 4 I dealt with classified information my entire time in the Air force and at all of my government connected jobs such as The Lawrence Rad labs in Livermore and Berkeley. The NASA communications board and other jobs that even were something like third hand government work.

Everything that is said by the President anywhere but in public in the media is classified TOP Secret and like you say, that even includes the lunch menu and any pharmaceuticals he takes that are completely harmless.

The Bombing System in a B52D came directly from a B29 These were laying all over Asia in pieces and yet they were classified Secret. The only difference was the radar system. And it was so crude it was a joke since a B52 is a high altitude bomber and the radar was terrain avoidance.