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Subject: Re: "[T]he right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited."
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 by: Carol Kinsey Goman - Sat, 29 Apr 2023 17:38 UTC

On 12/23/2012 7:25 PM, Scout wrote:
> "Carol Kinsey Goman"<ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
> news:5O2dnaMyRPE9WkrNnZ2dnUVZ5u2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On 12/23/2012 6:39 PM, Scout wrote:
>>> "Carol Kinsey Goman"<ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
>>> news:SdOdnZICVq18IUrNnZ2dnUVZ5t6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> On 12/23/2012 2:42 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>> "Carol Kinsey Goman"<ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:bJqdnXhWdKBypErNnZ2dnUVZ5rKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>> On 12/22/2012 10:48 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>> "Carol Kinsey Goman"<ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:komdnf7Xat4D80vNnZ2dnUVZ5sednZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>> On 12/22/2012 8:27 PM, Oglethorpe wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Carol Kinsey Goman"<ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:JcOdnTEGD4PkxkvNnZ2dnUVZ5gednZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/22/2012 2:10 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Carol Kinsey Goman"<ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:gbidnVuwYfIfsEvNnZ2dnUVZ5vednZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/22/2012 1:56 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carol Kinsey Goman<ckg@förbes.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk.politics.guns :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some limitation on the types of arms protected by the second
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amendment is clearly within the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scope of the amendment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another gun grabber straw man.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not a straw man at all. And I'm not a "gun grabber" - I own
>>>>>>>>>>>> guns,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> would like to own some more, although I can't see dumping a
>>>>>>>>>>>> whole lot
>>>>>>>>>>>> of money into it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No right is "unlimited."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many of your fellow crazed proto-Nazi gun nuts wish to believe
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> the gun rights secured by the second amendment *are* unlimited.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I believe people were contesting your assertion that
>>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>>> limitations existed within the 2nd.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Of *course* they exist "within" the second, you idiot. They
>>>>>>>>>> *have* to
>>>>>>>>>> exist "within" it,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CITE them - from the txt of he Second Amendment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The second amendment *IS* what the SCOTUS says it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BBbbbbbbbbbbbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzztttttttttttttttttttt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry the 2nd Amendment is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free
>>>>>>> state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be
>>>>>>> infringed."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SCOTUS has no power to change, alter or modify that text by even the
>>>>>>> least amount.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nor have they!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> So the 2nd isn't whatever SCOTUS says it is.
>>>>
>>>> It certainly is!!!
>>>
>>> Ah, so you're saying we're no longer a Constitutional republic but
>>> rather a oligarchy?
>>
>> Not in the least.
>
> You certainly are.

Not in the least.

>> Actually, I'm not entirely convinced we're any longer a
>> constitutional (not "Constitutional" [sic]) republic, but we're
>> certainly not an oligarchy.
>
> We are if, as per your claims, SCOTUS gets to set all the rules.

The court isn't setting all the rules, scooter.  The court is saying what the
rules mean.  That is the job of the court.

Why are you so proud of your ignorance of the Constitution, scooter?

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