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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59996331

"Our study shows that upon arriving in space, more red blood cells are destroyed, and this continues for the entire duration of the astronaut's mission," said Dr Guy Trudel, lead researcher and hospital physician.

That's why I stay here on Earth and f*** space!

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On Friday, 14 January 2022 at 18:31:14 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59996331
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> "Our study shows that upon arriving in space, more red blood cells are destroyed, and this continues for the entire duration of the astronaut's mission," said Dr Guy Trudel, lead researcher and hospital physician.
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> That's why I stay here on Earth and f*** space!

Beat me to it, but this is no surprise given the radiation.

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On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 5:24:27 PM UTC-8, RichA wrote:
> On Friday, 14 January 2022 at 18:31:14 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59996331
> >
> > "Our study shows that upon arriving in space, more red blood cells are destroyed, and this continues for the entire duration of the astronaut's mission," said Dr Guy Trudel, lead researcher and hospital physician.
> >
> > That's why I stay here on Earth and f*** space!
> Beat me to it, but this is no surprise given the radiation.

I bet, some astronauts ended up with leukemia?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL_zPY-4srY

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 17:24:26 -0800 (PST), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
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>On Friday, 14 January 2022 at 18:31:14 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
>> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59996331
>>
>> "Our study shows that upon arriving in space, more red blood cells are destroyed, and this continues for the entire duration of the astronaut's mission," said Dr Guy Trudel, lead researcher and hospital physician.
>>
>> That's why I stay here on Earth and f*** space!
>
>Beat me to it, but this is no surprise given the radiation.

It's more likely related to the absence of gravity than to the higher
radiation levels.

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On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 6:32:24 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 17:24:26 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Friday, 14 January 2022 at 18:31:14 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> >> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59996331
> >>
> >> "Our study shows that upon arriving in space, more red blood cells are destroyed, and this continues for the entire duration of the astronaut's mission," said Dr Guy Trudel, lead researcher and hospital physician.
> >>
> >> That's why I stay here on Earth and f*** space!
> >
> >Beat me to it, but this is no surprise given the radiation.
> It's more likely related to the absence of gravity than to the higher
> radiation levels.

So, if we go to a planet with more gravity, means we get more red blood cells?

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 by: Chris L Peterson - Sat, 15 Jan 2022 15:23 UTC

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 06:44:50 -0800 (PST), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
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>On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 6:32:24 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 17:24:26 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Friday, 14 January 2022 at 18:31:14 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
>> >> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59996331
>> >>
>> >> "Our study shows that upon arriving in space, more red blood cells are destroyed, and this continues for the entire duration of the astronaut's mission," said Dr Guy Trudel, lead researcher and hospital physician.
>> >>
>> >> That's why I stay here on Earth and f*** space!
>> >
>> >Beat me to it, but this is no surprise given the radiation.
>> It's more likely related to the absence of gravity than to the higher
>> radiation levels.
>
>So, if we go to a planet with more gravity, means we get more red blood cells?

Who knows? But we evolved in gravity, and it's hardly surprising that
low gravity would have significant impact on most of our bodily
systems.

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On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 7:23:35 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 06:44:50 -0800 (PST), StarDust
> wrote:
> >On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 6:32:24 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 17:24:26 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Friday, 14 January 2022 at 18:31:14 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> >> >> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59996331
> >> >>
> >> >> "Our study shows that upon arriving in space, more red blood cells are destroyed, and this continues for the entire duration of the astronaut's mission," said Dr Guy Trudel, lead researcher and hospital physician.
> >> >>
> >> >> That's why I stay here on Earth and f*** space!
> >> >
> >> >Beat me to it, but this is no surprise given the radiation.
> >> It's more likely related to the absence of gravity than to the higher
> >> radiation levels.
> >
> >So, if we go to a planet with more gravity, means we get more red blood cells?
> Who knows? But we evolved in gravity, and it's hardly surprising that
> low gravity would have significant impact on most of our bodily
> systems.

That's why, I don't think space is made for us, at least not for the long haul?
Has to be significant breakthrough in technology of living in space has to be for us to become star riders!

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 by: Chris L Peterson - Sat, 15 Jan 2022 22:30 UTC

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 12:54:48 -0800 (PST), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 7:23:35 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 06:44:50 -0800 (PST), StarDust
>> wrote:
>> >On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 6:32:24 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 17:24:26 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >On Friday, 14 January 2022 at 18:31:14 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
>> >> >> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59996331
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Our study shows that upon arriving in space, more red blood cells are destroyed, and this continues for the entire duration of the astronaut's mission," said Dr Guy Trudel, lead researcher and hospital physician.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That's why I stay here on Earth and f*** space!
>> >> >
>> >> >Beat me to it, but this is no surprise given the radiation.
>> >> It's more likely related to the absence of gravity than to the higher
>> >> radiation levels.
>> >
>> >So, if we go to a planet with more gravity, means we get more red blood cells?
>> Who knows? But we evolved in gravity, and it's hardly surprising that
>> low gravity would have significant impact on most of our bodily
>> systems.
>
>That's why, I don't think space is made for us, at least not for the long haul?
>Has to be significant breakthrough in technology of living in space has to be for us to become star riders!

If we find some reason to spend a lot of time in space in the near
future, we can create spin gravity. If in the distant future we choose
to live in a low gravity environment, I'm sure we'll have the ability
to modify ourselves.

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 by: StarDust - Sun, 16 Jan 2022 01:35 UTC

On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 2:30:14 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 12:54:48 -0800 (PST),
> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 7:23:35 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 06:44:50 -0800 (PST), StarDust
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 6:32:24 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 17:24:26 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >On Friday, 14 January 2022 at 18:31:14 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> >> >> >> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59996331
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Our study shows that upon arriving in space, more red blood cells are destroyed, and this continues for the entire duration of the astronaut's mission," said Dr Guy Trudel, lead researcher and hospital physician.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> That's why I stay here on Earth and f*** space!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Beat me to it, but this is no surprise given the radiation.
> >> >> It's more likely related to the absence of gravity than to the higher
> >> >> radiation levels.
> >> >
> >> >So, if we go to a planet with more gravity, means we get more red blood cells?
> >> Who knows? But we evolved in gravity, and it's hardly surprising that
> >> low gravity would have significant impact on most of our bodily
> >> systems.
> >
> >That's why, I don't think space is made for us, at least not for the long haul?
> >Has to be significant breakthrough in technology of living in space has to be for us to become star riders!
> If we find some reason to spend a lot of time in space in the near
> future, we can create spin gravity. If in the distant future we choose
> to live in a low gravity environment, I'm sure we'll have the ability
> to modify ourselves.

Who's gonna sign up for that?
I mean to modify?
LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL_zPY-4srY

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On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 17:35:40 -0800 (PST), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
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>> If we find some reason to spend a lot of time in space in the near
>> future, we can create spin gravity. If in the distant future we choose
>> to live in a low gravity environment, I'm sure we'll have the ability
>> to modify ourselves.
>
>Who's gonna sign up for that?
>I mean to modify?

While I'm skeptical that our current civilizations are going to
survive more than another decade or two, which will largely put an end
to space exploration and high technology for a long time, if we do
make it past the current crises I expect physical and genetic
modification of ourselves will be common and routine.

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On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 6:34:50 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 17:35:40 -0800 (PST),
> wrote:
> >> If we find some reason to spend a lot of time in space in the near
> >> future, we can create spin gravity. If in the distant future we choose
> >> to live in a low gravity environment, I'm sure we'll have the ability
> >> to modify ourselves.
> >
> >Who's gonna sign up for that?
> >I mean to modify?
> While I'm skeptical that our current civilizations are going to
> survive more than another decade or two, which will largely put an end
> to space exploration and high technology for a long time, if we do
> make it past the current crises I expect physical and genetic
> modification of ourselves will be common and routine.

Kind of too soon, 100-200 years most likely, if we have this growth type of economy and use up, destroying resources at this rate!

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On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 6:34:50 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 17:35:40 -0800 (PST),
> wrote:
> >> If we find some reason to spend a lot of time in space in the near
> >> future, we can create spin gravity. If in the distant future we choose
> >> to live in a low gravity environment, I'm sure we'll have the ability
> >> to modify ourselves.
> >
> >Who's gonna sign up for that?
> >I mean to modify?
> While I'm skeptical that our current civilizations are going to
> survive more than another decade or two, which will largely put an end
> to space exploration and high technology for a long time, if we do
> make it past the current crises I expect physical and genetic
> modification of ourselves will be common and routine.

World population 7.8 billion, if 7 billion would die tomorrow, .8 billion survive.
In 1900 , 120 years ago world population was 1 billion.
Just showing how bad world population is!

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On Saturday, 15 January 2022 at 09:32:24 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 17:24:26 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Friday, 14 January 2022 at 18:31:14 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> >> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59996331
> >>
> >> "Our study shows that upon arriving in space, more red blood cells are destroyed, and this continues for the entire duration of the astronaut's mission," said Dr Guy Trudel, lead researcher and hospital physician.
> >>
> >> That's why I stay here on Earth and f*** space!
> >
> >Beat me to it, but this is no surprise given the radiation.
> It's more likely related to the absence of gravity than to the higher
> radiation levels.

Hey! That's true. A radiation does often results in increased red blood cell production. It gives people who've been zapped an initial feeling of well-being, until the other side effects begin...

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On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-8, RichA wrote:
> On Saturday, 15 January 2022 at 09:32:24 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 17:24:26 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >On Friday, 14 January 2022 at 18:31:14 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> > >> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59996331
> > >>
> > >> "Our study shows that upon arriving in space, more red blood cells are destroyed, and this continues for the entire duration of the astronaut's mission," said Dr Guy Trudel, lead researcher and hospital physician.
> > >>
> > >> That's why I stay here on Earth and f*** space!
> > >
> > >Beat me to it, but this is no surprise given the radiation.
> > It's more likely related to the absence of gravity than to the higher
> > radiation levels.
> Hey! That's true. A radiation does often results in increased red blood cell production. It gives people who've been zapped an initial feeling of well-being, until the other side effects begin...

I remember Chernobyl, the first man arrived and pushed the radioactive graphite back to the rector had the highest doze of radiation.
He received 3 bone narrow surgery, then died later in blood cancer .
He was named the hero of Soviet Union!

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