I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off. I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on the way up there.. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.

Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on all bicycle parts and accessories?

Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.

Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
processors by 830 era.

Or you’ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
auto power off.
>
> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
> all bicycle parts and accessories?
>
Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it’s quite dated/clunky by
today’s standards!

In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.

Roger Merriman

On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 2:43:23 PM UTC-8, Roger Meriman wrote:
> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off..
> > I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
> > had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
> > though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
> > entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
> > charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
> > point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
> > the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
> > couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
> > but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
> > back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
> processors by 830 era.
>
> Or you’ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
> auto power off.
> >
> > Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
> > that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
> > interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
> > of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
> > all bicycle parts and accessories?
> >
> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it’s quite dated/clunky by
> today’s standards!
>
> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.

Well, I did start it and it was operating fine but all of that data disappeared when I restarted the thing, I was trying to use the 830 for the Fondriest and the 800 for the Tommasini and the Aliverti. But you're probably right about the processor being underpowered. The 830 hasn't given me any trouble..

I misplaced the owners manual for the 830. I was trying to get it to recognize any of the speedo or cadence detectors but it didn't seem to like three difference sensor sets, I don't know if I was doing it wrong or if I have to put in the detectors I'm using every time I switch bikes.

Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 2:43:23 PM UTC-8, Roger Meriman wrote:
>> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
>>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
>>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
>>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
>>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
>>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
>>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
>>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
>>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
>>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
>>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
>> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
>> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
>> processors by 830 era.
>>
>> Or you’ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
>> auto power off.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
>>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
>>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
>>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
>>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
>>>
>> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
>> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it’s quite dated/clunky by
>> today’s standards!
>>
>> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
>
> Well, I did start it and it was operating fine but all of that data
> disappeared when I restarted the thing, I was trying to use the 830 for
> the Fondriest and the 800 for the Tommasini and the Aliverti. But you're
> probably right about the processor being underpowered. The 830 hasn't
> given me any trouble..
>
One annoying aspect is will display fine, display time distance even route,
even if you haven’t started it, why I make sure I have timer on one of the
Data Screens so I can check to be sure! As I have missed the start before
now!

> I misplaced the owners manual for the 830. I was trying to get it to
> recognize any of the speedo or cadence detectors but it didn't seem to
> like three difference sensor sets, I don't know if I was doing it wrong
> or if I have to put in the detectors I'm using every time I switch bikes.
>
The online one seems to work fine though not looked for ages as well it’s
set up with its two profiles. Plus any new features would be added.

Roger Merriman

On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:43:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:

>Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
>
>Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
>underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
>processors by 830 era.
>
>Or you’ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
>auto power off.
>>
>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
>>
>Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
>up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it’s quite dated/clunky by
>today’s standards!
>
>In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
>
>Roger Merriman
>

I prefer Garmin Connect over Strava. I copy each ride and add it to my
Excell data base. I have all the data from all 863 rides since Feb.
2011. I can pull any one of them, plug it back into Connect and see
the ride on a map. I've also have set up averages, totals and charts
for each year.

Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:43:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
>>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
>>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
>>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
>>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
>>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
>>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
>>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
>>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
>>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
>>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
>>
>> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
>> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
>> processors by 830 era.
>>
>> Or you’ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
>> auto power off.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
>>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
>>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
>>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
>>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
>>>
>> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
>> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it’s quite dated/clunky by
>> today’s standards!
>>
>> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>>
>
> I prefer Garmin Connect over Strava. I copy each ride and add it to my
> Excell data base. I have all the data from all 863 rides since Feb.
> 2011. I can pull any one of them, plug it back into Connect and see
> the ride on a map. I've also have set up averages, totals and charts
> for each year.
>
I do use number of strava features, including keeping mileage totals for
components for parts, which is mildly useful for parts that have fairly
consistent life expectancy such as chains, and disk pads.

Plus it’s route mapping and social aspect so I do pay for it.

Roger Merriman

On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 23:42:13 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:

>Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:43:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
>>>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
>>>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
>>>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
>>>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
>>>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
>>>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
>>>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
>>>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
>>>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
>>>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
>>>
>>> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
>>> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
>>> processors by 830 era.
>>>
>>> Or you?ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
>>> auto power off.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
>>>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
>>>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
>>>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
>>>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
>>>>
>>> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
>>> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it?s quite dated/clunky by
>>> today?s standards!
>>>
>>> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
>>>
>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>>
>> I prefer Garmin Connect over Strava. I copy each ride and add it to my
>> Excell data base. I have all the data from all 863 rides since Feb.
>> 2011. I can pull any one of them, plug it back into Connect and see
>> the ride on a map. I've also have set up averages, totals and charts
>> for each year.
>>
>I do use number of strava features, including keeping mileage totals for
>components for parts, which is mildly useful for parts that have fairly
>consistent life expectancy such as chains, and disk pads.
>
>Plus it’s route mapping and social aspect so I do pay for it.
>
>Roger Merriman

I do all of that with my Excel database. It's way more flexible and it
costs me nothing. I don't claim expertise at many things, but Excel
data processing is one of them.

On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 14:15:56 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.

Yep. Looks like your ride today (Feb 18) started late, terminated
early, and is shorter than your usual rides. Something is wrong:
<https://www.strava.com/activities/8583274486>

This doesn't quite match your description, but might be involved in
the problem:

"My Edge Goes Blank Without Me Turning Off the Device "
<https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=MmWINQ4CqS6tHxYAGaqnt5>
"Auto Sleep automatically turns the display off after five minutes of
inactivity in order to save battery charge."

I think the 5 minutes is a typo because there are other Edge 800
documents that say 15 minutes. For example:
<https://static.garmin.com/pumac/Edge_800_OM_EN.pdf>
(see pg 46).

Another bad guess is the battery in whatever wireless peripherals
you're using is weak, resulting in loss of wireless connectivity,
which makes the Garmin 800 think it's "inactive". It's a bad guess
because I couldn't find any information on what Garmin requires for
the Edge 800 to be consider "active". I would assume that having the
GPS enabled and recording data would qualify, but maybe not.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 23:42:13 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:43:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
>>>>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
>>>>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
>>>>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
>>>>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
>>>>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
>>>>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
>>>>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
>>>>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
>>>>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
>>>>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
>>>>
>>>> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
>>>> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
>>>> processors by 830 era.
>>>>
>>>> Or you?ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
>>>> auto power off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
>>>>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
>>>>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
>>>>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
>>>>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
>>>>>
>>>> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
>>>> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it?s quite dated/clunky by
>>>> today?s standards!
>>>>
>>>> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
>>>>
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>
>>>
>>> I prefer Garmin Connect over Strava. I copy each ride and add it to my
>>> Excell data base. I have all the data from all 863 rides since Feb.
>>> 2011. I can pull any one of them, plug it back into Connect and see
>>> the ride on a map. I've also have set up averages, totals and charts
>>> for each year.
>>>
>> I do use number of strava features, including keeping mileage totals for
>> components for parts, which is mildly useful for parts that have fairly
>> consistent life expectancy such as chains, and disk pads.
>>
>> Plus it’s route mapping and social aspect so I do pay for it.
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>
> I do all of that with my Excel database. It's way more flexible and it
> costs me nothing. I don't claim expertise at many things, but Excel
> data processing is one of them.
>
Automatically? I did used to use a spreadsheet but well was tedious filling
in miles after each ride.

To be fair it’s not why I use Strava but it’s a mildly handy extra.

Roger Merriman

On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:19:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:

>Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 23:42:13 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:43:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
>>>>>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
>>>>>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
>>>>>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
>>>>>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
>>>>>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
>>>>>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
>>>>>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
>>>>>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
>>>>>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
>>>>>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
>>>>> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
>>>>> processors by 830 era.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or you?ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
>>>>> auto power off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
>>>>>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
>>>>>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
>>>>>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
>>>>>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
>>>>> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it?s quite dated/clunky by
>>>>> today?s standards!
>>>>>
>>>>> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I prefer Garmin Connect over Strava. I copy each ride and add it to my
>>>> Excell data base. I have all the data from all 863 rides since Feb.
>>>> 2011. I can pull any one of them, plug it back into Connect and see
>>>> the ride on a map. I've also have set up averages, totals and charts
>>>> for each year.
>>>>
>>> I do use number of strava features, including keeping mileage totals for
>>> components for parts, which is mildly useful for parts that have fairly
>>> consistent life expectancy such as chains, and disk pads.
>>>
>>> Plus it?s route mapping and social aspect so I do pay for it.
>>>
>>> Roger Merriman
>>
>> I do all of that with my Excel database. It's way more flexible and it
>> costs me nothing. I don't claim expertise at many things, but Excel
>> data processing is one of them.
>>
>Automatically? I did used to use a spreadsheet but well was tedious filling
>in miles after each ride.

Garmin connect has a feature where you can export all the collected
data of your rides to an excel file. Several years ago I copied all
the rides in Garmin's data base out to an Excel file. It was probably
about 5 years worth, somewhere between 500 and 600 rides, and it took
ten minutes or so to get that done. Ever since I have been exporting
each individual ride, which only takes a few seconds, and pasting that
data to my original Excel file, which now numbers eight hundred sixty+
rides. Over the years I have built the data base to be able to collect
specific items such as miles ridden, heart rate, etc to separate
tables within the database for each year. Those tables automatically
populate as I add new rides. I also have graphs that show the
progression of my rides through the years. I flag a separate column
on the next ride after I put on each new tire, chain, cable, and brake
pad, so I can show the miles and the amount of time on each item. Yes,
I know much of the collected data has no value, but I enjoy fiddling
around with it. I've been an early to bed, early to rise person all
my life and I need something to do when I'm out of bed at 3 AM or
earlier

>To be fair it’s not why I use Strava but it’s a mildly handy extra.
>
>Roger Merriman

On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:14:10 PM UTC-5, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 14:15:56 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
> Yep. Looks like your ride today (Feb 18) started late, terminated
> early, and is shorter than your usual rides. Something is wrong:
> <https://www.strava.com/activities/8583274486>

Strava has a privacy feature which truncates the last and first 1/4 mile of the ride. Could be he has that turned on? Still doesn't support the claim of losing the entire ride though.

>
> This doesn't quite match your description, but might be involved in
> the problem:
>
> "My Edge Goes Blank Without Me Turning Off the Device "
> <https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=MmWINQ4CqS6tHxYAGaqnt5>
> "Auto Sleep automatically turns the display off after five minutes of
> inactivity in order to save battery charge."
>
> I think the 5 minutes is a typo because there are other Edge 800
> documents that say 15 minutes. For example:
> <https://static.garmin.com/pumac/Edge_800_OM_EN.pdf>
> (see pg 46).
>
> Another bad guess is the battery in whatever wireless peripherals
> you're using is weak, resulting in loss of wireless connectivity,
> which makes the Garmin 800 think it's "inactive". It's a bad guess
> because I couldn't find any information on what Garmin requires for
> the Edge 800 to be consider "active". I would assume that having the
> GPS enabled and recording data would qualify, but maybe not.
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 11:15:58 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off. I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
>
> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on all bicycle parts and accessories?

Your Edge crashed, not unusual for Garmin and especially the edge 800. You can look in the error log. Should be somewhere in the Garmin directory. We had a certain location in one of our routes where several Edges crashed and turned off most of the times. What I can remember it had something to do with the map info. After an update the problem was solved for my Edge 810, but not for one of my riding buddies with an Edge 800. First incident was during the climb of Passo Stelvio. On exactly the same location 3 Edges of our group crashed and turned off. Never encountered the problem with my Edge 1030 after the first firmware update.

Lou

funkma...@hotmail.com <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:14:10 PM UTC-5, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 14:15:56 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
>> Yep. Looks like your ride today (Feb 18) started late, terminated
>> early, and is shorter than your usual rides. Something is wrong:
>> <https://www.strava.com/activities/8583274486>
>
> Strava has a privacy feature which truncates the last and first 1/4 mile
> of the ride. Could be he has that turned on? Still doesn't support the
> claim of losing the entire ride though.
>
Doesn’t look like it, neither start or finish are in same areas ish.
>>
>> This doesn't quite match your description, but might be involved in
>> the problem:
>>
>> "My Edge Goes Blank Without Me Turning Off the Device "
>> <https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=MmWINQ4CqS6tHxYAGaqnt5>
>> "Auto Sleep automatically turns the display off after five minutes of
>> inactivity in order to save battery charge."
>>
>> I think the 5 minutes is a typo because there are other Edge 800
>> documents that say 15 minutes. For example:
>> <https://static.garmin.com/pumac/Edge_800_OM_EN.pdf>
>> (see pg 46).
>>
>> Another bad guess is the battery in whatever wireless peripherals
>> you're using is weak, resulting in loss of wireless connectivity,
>> which makes the Garmin 800 think it's "inactive". It's a bad guess
>> because I couldn't find any information on what Garmin requires for
>> the Edge 800 to be consider "active". I would assume that having the
>> GPS enabled and recording data would qualify, but maybe not.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
>> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
>> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
>> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>
Roger Merrriman

Lou Holtman <lou.holtman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 11:15:58 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and
>> even though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I
>> lost an entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off
>> of the charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the
>> starting point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the
>> speedo on the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I
>> noticed I couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on
>> the screen but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off.
>> I turned it back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
>>
>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this
>> because of the problems with them or because the prices are getting
>> outrageous on all bicycle parts and accessories?
>
> Your Edge crashed, not unusual for Garmin and especially the edge 800.
> You can look in the error log. Should be somewhere in the Garmin
> directory. We had a certain location in one of our routes where several
> Edges crashed and turned off most of the times. What I can remember it
> had something to do with the map info. After an update the problem was
> solved for my Edge 810, but not for one of my riding buddies with an Edge
> 800. First incident was during the climb of Passo Stelvio. On exactly the
> same location 3 Edges of our group crashed and turned off. Never
> encountered the problem with my Edge 1030 after the first firmware update.
>
> Lou
>
>
More newer Garmin’s have much more powerful processors plus Garmin had to
up their game with Wahoo and now Hammerhead.

Certainly my Garmin Touring (based off the 800) would crash occasionally
when overloaded ie navigating a route with say bike paths! Which the newer
830 is rock solid.

Roger Merriman

Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:19:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 23:42:13 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:43:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
>>>>>>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
>>>>>>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
>>>>>>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
>>>>>>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
>>>>>>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
>>>>>>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
>>>>>>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
>>>>>>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
>>>>>>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
>>>>>>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
>>>>>> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
>>>>>> processors by 830 era.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or you?ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
>>>>>> auto power off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
>>>>>>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
>>>>>>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
>>>>>>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
>>>>>>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
>>>>>> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it?s quite dated/clunky by
>>>>>> today?s standards!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer Garmin Connect over Strava. I copy each ride and add it to my
>>>>> Excell data base. I have all the data from all 863 rides since Feb.
>>>>> 2011. I can pull any one of them, plug it back into Connect and see
>>>>> the ride on a map. I've also have set up averages, totals and charts
>>>>> for each year.
>>>>>
>>>> I do use number of strava features, including keeping mileage totals for
>>>> components for parts, which is mildly useful for parts that have fairly
>>>> consistent life expectancy such as chains, and disk pads.
>>>>
>>>> Plus it?s route mapping and social aspect so I do pay for it.
>>>>
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>>> I do all of that with my Excel database. It's way more flexible and it
>>> costs me nothing. I don't claim expertise at many things, but Excel
>>> data processing is one of them.
>>>
>> Automatically? I did used to use a spreadsheet but well was tedious filling
>> in miles after each ride.
>
> Garmin connect has a feature where you can export all the collected
> data of your rides to an excel file. Several years ago I copied all
> the rides in Garmin's data base out to an Excel file. It was probably
> about 5 years worth, somewhere between 500 and 600 rides, and it took
> ten minutes or so to get that done. Ever since I have been exporting
> each individual ride, which only takes a few seconds, and pasting that
> data to my original Excel file, which now numbers eight hundred sixty+
> rides. Over the years I have built the data base to be able to collect
> specific items such as miles ridden, heart rate, etc to separate
> tables within the database for each year. Those tables automatically
> populate as I add new rides. I also have graphs that show the
> progression of my rides through the years. I flag a separate column
> on the next ride after I put on each new tire, chain, cable, and brake
> pad, so I can show the miles and the amount of time on each item. Yes,
> I know much of the collected data has no value, but I enjoy fiddling
> around with it. I've been an early to bed, early to rise person all
> my life and I need something to do when I'm out of bed at 3 AM or
> earlier
>
>> To be fair it’s not why I use Strava but it’s a mildly handy extra.
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>
Ah possibly useful, I rarely use Garmin connect other than to sync to
Strava and to be honest I’m more interested in looking at the route photos
to remember past enjoyment, which Strava lets me as I’ve well over a decade
in now!

On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 14:42:30 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:

>Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:19:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 23:42:13 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:43:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
>>>>>>>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
>>>>>>>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
>>>>>>>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
>>>>>>>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
>>>>>>>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
>>>>>>>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
>>>>>>>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
>>>>>>>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
>>>>>>>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
>>>>>>>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
>>>>>>> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
>>>>>>> processors by 830 era.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or you?ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
>>>>>>> auto power off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
>>>>>>>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
>>>>>>>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
>>>>>>>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
>>>>>>>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
>>>>>>> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it?s quite dated/clunky by
>>>>>>> today?s standards!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I prefer Garmin Connect over Strava. I copy each ride and add it to my
>>>>>> Excell data base. I have all the data from all 863 rides since Feb.
>>>>>> 2011. I can pull any one of them, plug it back into Connect and see
>>>>>> the ride on a map. I've also have set up averages, totals and charts
>>>>>> for each year.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I do use number of strava features, including keeping mileage totals for
>>>>> components for parts, which is mildly useful for parts that have fairly
>>>>> consistent life expectancy such as chains, and disk pads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plus it?s route mapping and social aspect so I do pay for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>
>>>> I do all of that with my Excel database. It's way more flexible and it
>>>> costs me nothing. I don't claim expertise at many things, but Excel
>>>> data processing is one of them.
>>>>
>>> Automatically? I did used to use a spreadsheet but well was tedious filling
>>> in miles after each ride.
>>
>> Garmin connect has a feature where you can export all the collected
>> data of your rides to an excel file. Several years ago I copied all
>> the rides in Garmin's data base out to an Excel file. It was probably
>> about 5 years worth, somewhere between 500 and 600 rides, and it took
>> ten minutes or so to get that done. Ever since I have been exporting
>> each individual ride, which only takes a few seconds, and pasting that
>> data to my original Excel file, which now numbers eight hundred sixty+
>> rides. Over the years I have built the data base to be able to collect
>> specific items such as miles ridden, heart rate, etc to separate
>> tables within the database for each year. Those tables automatically
>> populate as I add new rides. I also have graphs that show the
>> progression of my rides through the years. I flag a separate column
>> on the next ride after I put on each new tire, chain, cable, and brake
>> pad, so I can show the miles and the amount of time on each item. Yes,
>> I know much of the collected data has no value, but I enjoy fiddling
>> around with it. I've been an early to bed, early to rise person all
>> my life and I need something to do when I'm out of bed at 3 AM or
>> earlier
>>
>>> To be fair it?s not why I use Strava but it?s a mildly handy extra.
>>>
>>> Roger Merriman
>>
>Ah possibly useful, I rarely use Garmin connect other than to sync to
>Strava and to be honest I’m more interested in looking at the route photos
>to remember past enjoyment, which Strava lets me as I’ve well over a decade
>in now!

I think I can do that with Garmin Connect, too, but I don't. I doubt
they would get exported into my database, but the Garmin Data base
must save them. I generally don't stop to take pictures, anyway.

I also have a Strava account and my data transfers over there from
Garmin Connect. I don't have a paid account and I don't have any
reason to look at the Strava data. I don't know why I keep it...

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 6:42:33 AM UTC-8, Roger Meriman wrote:
> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:19:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 23:42:13 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:43:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
> >>>>>>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
> >>>>>>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
> >>>>>>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
> >>>>>>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
> >>>>>>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
> >>>>>>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
> >>>>>>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
> >>>>>>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
> >>>>>>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
> >>>>>>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
> >>>>>> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
> >>>>>> processors by 830 era.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Or you?ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
> >>>>>> auto power off.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
> >>>>>>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
> >>>>>>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
> >>>>>>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
> >>>>>>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
> >>>>>> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it?s quite dated/clunky by
> >>>>>> today?s standards!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Roger Merriman
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I prefer Garmin Connect over Strava. I copy each ride and add it to my
> >>>>> Excell data base. I have all the data from all 863 rides since Feb.
> >>>>> 2011. I can pull any one of them, plug it back into Connect and see
> >>>>> the ride on a map. I've also have set up averages, totals and charts
> >>>>> for each year.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I do use number of strava features, including keeping mileage totals for
> >>>> components for parts, which is mildly useful for parts that have fairly
> >>>> consistent life expectancy such as chains, and disk pads.
> >>>>
> >>>> Plus it?s route mapping and social aspect so I do pay for it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Roger Merriman
> >>>
> >>> I do all of that with my Excel database. It's way more flexible and it
> >>> costs me nothing. I don't claim expertise at many things, but Excel
> >>> data processing is one of them.
> >>>
> >> Automatically? I did used to use a spreadsheet but well was tedious filling
> >> in miles after each ride.
> >
> > Garmin connect has a feature where you can export all the collected
> > data of your rides to an excel file. Several years ago I copied all
> > the rides in Garmin's data base out to an Excel file. It was probably
> > about 5 years worth, somewhere between 500 and 600 rides, and it took
> > ten minutes or so to get that done. Ever since I have been exporting
> > each individual ride, which only takes a few seconds, and pasting that
> > data to my original Excel file, which now numbers eight hundred sixty+
> > rides. Over the years I have built the data base to be able to collect
> > specific items such as miles ridden, heart rate, etc to separate
> > tables within the database for each year. Those tables automatically
> > populate as I add new rides. I also have graphs that show the
> > progression of my rides through the years. I flag a separate column
> > on the next ride after I put on each new tire, chain, cable, and brake
> > pad, so I can show the miles and the amount of time on each item. Yes,
> > I know much of the collected data has no value, but I enjoy fiddling
> > around with it. I've been an early to bed, early to rise person all
> > my life and I need something to do when I'm out of bed at 3 AM or
> > earlier
> >
> >> To be fair it’s not why I use Strava but it’s a mildly handy extra.
> >>
> >> Roger Merriman
> >
> Ah possibly useful, I rarely use Garmin connect other than to sync to
> Strava and to be honest I’m more interested in looking at the route photos
> to remember past enjoyment, which Strava lets me as I’ve well over a decade
> in now!

My problem had nothing to do with low power since after I restarted it, it showed brightly on the screen., And if I push the display over it shows the map in color.

Your description of them turning off for no apparent reason is the symptoms I had.

I will just have to get a 1030 sometime or another. It is likely that will allow me to use on any of the bikes I have without having to reload the sensors.

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 6:42:33 AM UTC-8, Roger Meriman wrote:
> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:19:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 23:42:13 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:43:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
> >>>>>>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
> >>>>>>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
> >>>>>>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
> >>>>>>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
> >>>>>>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
> >>>>>>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
> >>>>>>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
> >>>>>>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
> >>>>>>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
> >>>>>>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
> >>>>>> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
> >>>>>> processors by 830 era.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Or you?ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
> >>>>>> auto power off.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
> >>>>>>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
> >>>>>>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
> >>>>>>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
> >>>>>>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
> >>>>>> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it?s quite dated/clunky by
> >>>>>> today?s standards!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Roger Merriman
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I prefer Garmin Connect over Strava. I copy each ride and add it to my
> >>>>> Excell data base. I have all the data from all 863 rides since Feb.
> >>>>> 2011. I can pull any one of them, plug it back into Connect and see
> >>>>> the ride on a map. I've also have set up averages, totals and charts
> >>>>> for each year.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I do use number of strava features, including keeping mileage totals for
> >>>> components for parts, which is mildly useful for parts that have fairly
> >>>> consistent life expectancy such as chains, and disk pads.
> >>>>
> >>>> Plus it?s route mapping and social aspect so I do pay for it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Roger Merriman
> >>>
> >>> I do all of that with my Excel database. It's way more flexible and it
> >>> costs me nothing. I don't claim expertise at many things, but Excel
> >>> data processing is one of them.
> >>>
> >> Automatically? I did used to use a spreadsheet but well was tedious filling
> >> in miles after each ride.
> >
> > Garmin connect has a feature where you can export all the collected
> > data of your rides to an excel file. Several years ago I copied all
> > the rides in Garmin's data base out to an Excel file. It was probably
> > about 5 years worth, somewhere between 500 and 600 rides, and it took
> > ten minutes or so to get that done. Ever since I have been exporting
> > each individual ride, which only takes a few seconds, and pasting that
> > data to my original Excel file, which now numbers eight hundred sixty+
> > rides. Over the years I have built the data base to be able to collect
> > specific items such as miles ridden, heart rate, etc to separate
> > tables within the database for each year. Those tables automatically
> > populate as I add new rides. I also have graphs that show the
> > progression of my rides through the years. I flag a separate column
> > on the next ride after I put on each new tire, chain, cable, and brake
> > pad, so I can show the miles and the amount of time on each item. Yes,
> > I know much of the collected data has no value, but I enjoy fiddling
> > around with it. I've been an early to bed, early to rise person all
> > my life and I need something to do when I'm out of bed at 3 AM or
> > earlier
> >
> >> To be fair it’s not why I use Strava but it’s a mildly handy extra.
> >>
> >> Roger Merriman
> >
> Ah possibly useful, I rarely use Garmin connect other than to sync to
> Strava and to be honest I’m more interested in looking at the route photos
> to remember past enjoyment, which Strava lets me as I’ve well over a decade
> in now!

I intended to cancel all payments to Strava but then discovered that it is entirely free for me. So, I couldn't care less if they're tracking me. I just look at the Garmin tables.

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:09:30 AM UTC-5, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> I intended to cancel all payments to Strava but then discovered that it is entirely free for me. So, I couldn't care less if they're tracking me. I just look at the Garmin tables.

gawd...where does one even start with this?

Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 6:42:33 AM UTC-8, Roger Meriman wrote:
>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:19:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 23:42:13 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:43:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
>>>>>>>>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
>>>>>>>>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
>>>>>>>>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
>>>>>>>>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
>>>>>>>>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
>>>>>>>>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
>>>>>>>>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
>>>>>>>>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
>>>>>>>>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
>>>>>>>>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
>>>>>>>> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
>>>>>>>> processors by 830 era.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or you?ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
>>>>>>>> auto power off.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
>>>>>>>>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
>>>>>>>>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
>>>>>>>>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
>>>>>>>>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
>>>>>>>> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it?s quite dated/clunky by
>>>>>>>> today?s standards!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I prefer Garmin Connect over Strava. I copy each ride and add it to my
>>>>>>> Excell data base. I have all the data from all 863 rides since Feb.
>>>>>>> 2011. I can pull any one of them, plug it back into Connect and see
>>>>>>> the ride on a map. I've also have set up averages, totals and charts
>>>>>>> for each year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do use number of strava features, including keeping mileage totals for
>>>>>> components for parts, which is mildly useful for parts that have fairly
>>>>>> consistent life expectancy such as chains, and disk pads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plus it?s route mapping and social aspect so I do pay for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>
>>>>> I do all of that with my Excel database. It's way more flexible and it
>>>>> costs me nothing. I don't claim expertise at many things, but Excel
>>>>> data processing is one of them.
>>>>>
>>>> Automatically? I did used to use a spreadsheet but well was tedious filling
>>>> in miles after each ride.
>>>
>>> Garmin connect has a feature where you can export all the collected
>>> data of your rides to an excel file. Several years ago I copied all
>>> the rides in Garmin's data base out to an Excel file. It was probably
>>> about 5 years worth, somewhere between 500 and 600 rides, and it took
>>> ten minutes or so to get that done. Ever since I have been exporting
>>> each individual ride, which only takes a few seconds, and pasting that
>>> data to my original Excel file, which now numbers eight hundred sixty+
>>> rides. Over the years I have built the data base to be able to collect
>>> specific items such as miles ridden, heart rate, etc to separate
>>> tables within the database for each year. Those tables automatically
>>> populate as I add new rides. I also have graphs that show the
>>> progression of my rides through the years. I flag a separate column
>>> on the next ride after I put on each new tire, chain, cable, and brake
>>> pad, so I can show the miles and the amount of time on each item. Yes,
>>> I know much of the collected data has no value, but I enjoy fiddling
>>> around with it. I've been an early to bed, early to rise person all
>>> my life and I need something to do when I'm out of bed at 3 AM or
>>> earlier
>>>
>>>> To be fair it’s not why I use Strava but it’s a mildly handy extra.
>>>>
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>> Ah possibly useful, I rarely use Garmin connect other than to sync to
>> Strava and to be honest I’m more interested in looking at the route photos
>> to remember past enjoyment, which Strava lets me as I’ve well over a decade
>> in now!
>
> My problem had nothing to do with low power since after I restarted it,
> it showed brightly on the screen., And if I push the display over it
> shows the map in color.

Low power as in the processor rather than battery low or becoming weak,
which my old 520 does which I’m using for the commute as well I had it
hanging about!

Garmin devices where definitely under powered various tech folks noted this
and the improvements once they upgraded them.
>
> Your description of them turning off for no apparent reason is the symptoms I had.
>
> I will just have to get a 1030 sometime or another. It is likely that
> will allow me to use on any of the bikes I have without having to reload the sensors.
>
You’ve got a 830 unless you need a bigger screen? It will do all you want
and more!

Roger Merriman

Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 14:42:30 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:19:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 23:42:13 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Catrike Rider <soloman@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:43:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
>>>>>>>>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
>>>>>>>>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
>>>>>>>>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
>>>>>>>>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
>>>>>>>>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
>>>>>>>>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
>>>>>>>>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
>>>>>>>>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
>>>>>>>>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
>>>>>>>>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
>>>>>>>> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
>>>>>>>> processors by 830 era.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or you?ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
>>>>>>>> auto power off.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
>>>>>>>>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
>>>>>>>>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
>>>>>>>>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
>>>>>>>>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
>>>>>>>> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it?s quite dated/clunky by
>>>>>>>> today?s standards!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I prefer Garmin Connect over Strava. I copy each ride and add it to my
>>>>>>> Excell data base. I have all the data from all 863 rides since Feb.
>>>>>>> 2011. I can pull any one of them, plug it back into Connect and see
>>>>>>> the ride on a map. I've also have set up averages, totals and charts
>>>>>>> for each year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do use number of strava features, including keeping mileage totals for
>>>>>> components for parts, which is mildly useful for parts that have fairly
>>>>>> consistent life expectancy such as chains, and disk pads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plus it?s route mapping and social aspect so I do pay for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>
>>>>> I do all of that with my Excel database. It's way more flexible and it
>>>>> costs me nothing. I don't claim expertise at many things, but Excel
>>>>> data processing is one of them.
>>>>>
>>>> Automatically? I did used to use a spreadsheet but well was tedious filling
>>>> in miles after each ride.
>>>
>>> Garmin connect has a feature where you can export all the collected
>>> data of your rides to an excel file. Several years ago I copied all
>>> the rides in Garmin's data base out to an Excel file. It was probably
>>> about 5 years worth, somewhere between 500 and 600 rides, and it took
>>> ten minutes or so to get that done. Ever since I have been exporting
>>> each individual ride, which only takes a few seconds, and pasting that
>>> data to my original Excel file, which now numbers eight hundred sixty+
>>> rides. Over the years I have built the data base to be able to collect
>>> specific items such as miles ridden, heart rate, etc to separate
>>> tables within the database for each year. Those tables automatically
>>> populate as I add new rides. I also have graphs that show the
>>> progression of my rides through the years. I flag a separate column
>>> on the next ride after I put on each new tire, chain, cable, and brake
>>> pad, so I can show the miles and the amount of time on each item. Yes,
>>> I know much of the collected data has no value, but I enjoy fiddling
>>> around with it. I've been an early to bed, early to rise person all
>>> my life and I need something to do when I'm out of bed at 3 AM or
>>> earlier
>>>
>>>> To be fair it?s not why I use Strava but it?s a mildly handy extra.
>>>>
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>> Ah possibly useful, I rarely use Garmin connect other than to sync to
>> Strava and to be honest I’m more interested in looking at the route photos
>> to remember past enjoyment, which Strava lets me as I’ve well over a decade
>> in now!
>
> I think I can do that with Garmin Connect, too, but I don't. I doubt
> they would get exported into my database, but the Garmin Data base
> must save them. I generally don't stop to take pictures, anyway.

I do like a photo I even stop on the commute if the light is right!

I get fit etc as by product of enjoying my bike ride, which does often
include photos depending on the area. Some rides are gentle cafe rides
others such as the night gravel are rather full on!
>
> I also have a Strava account and my data transfers over there from
> Garmin Connect. I don't have a paid account and I don't have any
> reason to look at the Strava data. I don't know why I keep it...
>
I generally disconnect stuff and remove accounts if I don’t use something
as well seems unwise to keep at that point if I’m not actively using it.

Roger Merriman

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 1:15:14 PM UTC-8, Roger Meriman wrote:
> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 14:42:30 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:19:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 23:42:13 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:43:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
> >>>>>>>>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
> >>>>>>>>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
> >>>>>>>>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
> >>>>>>>>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
> >>>>>>>>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
> >>>>>>>>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
> >>>>>>>>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
> >>>>>>>>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
> >>>>>>>>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
> >>>>>>>>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
> >>>>>>>> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
> >>>>>>>> processors by 830 era.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Or you?ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
> >>>>>>>> auto power off.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
> >>>>>>>>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
> >>>>>>>>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
> >>>>>>>>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
> >>>>>>>>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
> >>>>>>>> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it?s quite dated/clunky by
> >>>>>>>> today?s standards!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I prefer Garmin Connect over Strava. I copy each ride and add it to my
> >>>>>>> Excell data base. I have all the data from all 863 rides since Feb.
> >>>>>>> 2011. I can pull any one of them, plug it back into Connect and see
> >>>>>>> the ride on a map. I've also have set up averages, totals and charts
> >>>>>>> for each year.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I do use number of strava features, including keeping mileage totals for
> >>>>>> components for parts, which is mildly useful for parts that have fairly
> >>>>>> consistent life expectancy such as chains, and disk pads.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Plus it?s route mapping and social aspect so I do pay for it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Roger Merriman
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I do all of that with my Excel database. It's way more flexible and it
> >>>>> costs me nothing. I don't claim expertise at many things, but Excel
> >>>>> data processing is one of them.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Automatically? I did used to use a spreadsheet but well was tedious filling
> >>>> in miles after each ride.
> >>>
> >>> Garmin connect has a feature where you can export all the collected
> >>> data of your rides to an excel file. Several years ago I copied all
> >>> the rides in Garmin's data base out to an Excel file. It was probably
> >>> about 5 years worth, somewhere between 500 and 600 rides, and it took
> >>> ten minutes or so to get that done. Ever since I have been exporting
> >>> each individual ride, which only takes a few seconds, and pasting that
> >>> data to my original Excel file, which now numbers eight hundred sixty+
> >>> rides. Over the years I have built the data base to be able to collect
> >>> specific items such as miles ridden, heart rate, etc to separate
> >>> tables within the database for each year. Those tables automatically
> >>> populate as I add new rides. I also have graphs that show the
> >>> progression of my rides through the years. I flag a separate column
> >>> on the next ride after I put on each new tire, chain, cable, and brake
> >>> pad, so I can show the miles and the amount of time on each item. Yes,
> >>> I know much of the collected data has no value, but I enjoy fiddling
> >>> around with it. I've been an early to bed, early to rise person all
> >>> my life and I need something to do when I'm out of bed at 3 AM or
> >>> earlier
> >>>
> >>>> To be fair it?s not why I use Strava but it?s a mildly handy extra.
> >>>>
> >>>> Roger Merriman
> >>>
> >> Ah possibly useful, I rarely use Garmin connect other than to sync to
> >> Strava and to be honest I’m more interested in looking at the route photos
> >> to remember past enjoyment, which Strava lets me as I’ve well over a decade
> >> in now!
> >
> > I think I can do that with Garmin Connect, too, but I don't. I doubt
> > they would get exported into my database, but the Garmin Data base
> > must save them. I generally don't stop to take pictures, anyway.
> I do like a photo I even stop on the commute if the light is right!
>
> I get fit etc as by product of enjoying my bike ride, which does often
> include photos depending on the area. Some rides are gentle cafe rides
> others such as the night gravel are rather full on!
> >
> > I also have a Strava account and my data transfers over there from
> > Garmin Connect. I don't have a paid account and I don't have any
> > reason to look at the Strava data. I don't know why I keep it...
> >
> I generally disconnect stuff and remove accounts if I don’t use something
> as well seems unwise to keep at that point if I’m not actively using it.

There didn't seem to be anu obvious way to remove it.

Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 1:15:14 PM UTC-8, Roger Meriman wrote:
>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 14:42:30 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:19:29 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 23:42:13 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:43:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Garmon Edge 800 and several times now it has turned itself off.
>>>>>>>>>>> I have lost over 30 miles this month so far because of this. One time it
>>>>>>>>>>> had been fully charged and then sat around for a couple of weeks and even
>>>>>>>>>>> though this was an almost new battery it became discharged. So I lost an
>>>>>>>>>>> entire ride on the occasion. This morning I took the Garmin off of the
>>>>>>>>>>> charger and put it on the bike, turned it on and road up to the starting
>>>>>>>>>>> point and I didn't look at the 800 there but had watched the speedo on
>>>>>>>>>>> the way up there. We left from that point and 7 miles later I noticed I
>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't see the speedo. I assumed that it was the light on the screen
>>>>>>>>>>> but eventually it became clear that it had turned itself off. I turned it
>>>>>>>>>>> back on and it was good for the next 17 miles.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Few possibilities could of crashed as the 800 is like the 1000 rather
>>>>>>>>>> underpowered processors and just bugs out. Garmin fixed this with newer
>>>>>>>>>> processors by 830 era.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or you?ve forgotten to start recording the ride, and after a while will
>>>>>>>>>> auto power off.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone else had these sorts of problems with the Garmin? I notice
>>>>>>>>>>> that fewer and fewer Garmin are showing up on Craigslist which I
>>>>>>>>>>> interpret to mean that people are not using them as much. Is this because
>>>>>>>>>>> of the problems with them or because the prices are getting outrageous on
>>>>>>>>>>> all bicycle parts and accessories?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Garmin had a shock with Wahoo, but has responded well to be honest, I set
>>>>>>>>>> up a old 520 last week, for the commute and it?s quite dated/clunky by
>>>>>>>>>> today?s standards!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In short Garmin seems fine, coping with competition.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I prefer Garmin Connect over Strava. I copy each ride and add it to my
>>>>>>>>> Excell data base. I have all the data from all 863 rides since Feb.
>>>>>>>>> 2011. I can pull any one of them, plug it back into Connect and see
>>>>>>>>> the ride on a map. I've also have set up averages, totals and charts
>>>>>>>>> for each year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do use number of strava features, including keeping mileage totals for
>>>>>>>> components for parts, which is mildly useful for parts that have fairly
>>>>>>>> consistent life expectancy such as chains, and disk pads.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Plus it?s route mapping and social aspect so I do pay for it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do all of that with my Excel database. It's way more flexible and it
>>>>>>> costs me nothing. I don't claim expertise at many things, but Excel
>>>>>>> data processing is one of them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Automatically? I did used to use a spreadsheet but well was tedious filling
>>>>>> in miles after each ride.
>>>>>
>>>>> Garmin connect has a feature where you can export all the collected
>>>>> data of your rides to an excel file. Several years ago I copied all
>>>>> the rides in Garmin's data base out to an Excel file. It was probably
>>>>> about 5 years worth, somewhere between 500 and 600 rides, and it took
>>>>> ten minutes or so to get that done. Ever since I have been exporting
>>>>> each individual ride, which only takes a few seconds, and pasting that
>>>>> data to my original Excel file, which now numbers eight hundred sixty+
>>>>> rides. Over the years I have built the data base to be able to collect
>>>>> specific items such as miles ridden, heart rate, etc to separate
>>>>> tables within the database for each year. Those tables automatically
>>>>> populate as I add new rides. I also have graphs that show the
>>>>> progression of my rides through the years. I flag a separate column
>>>>> on the next ride after I put on each new tire, chain, cable, and brake
>>>>> pad, so I can show the miles and the amount of time on each item. Yes,
>>>>> I know much of the collected data has no value, but I enjoy fiddling
>>>>> around with it. I've been an early to bed, early to rise person all
>>>>> my life and I need something to do when I'm out of bed at 3 AM or
>>>>> earlier
>>>>>
>>>>>> To be fair it?s not why I use Strava but it?s a mildly handy extra.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>
>>>> Ah possibly useful, I rarely use Garmin connect other than to sync to
>>>> Strava and to be honest I’m more interested in looking at the route photos
>>>> to remember past enjoyment, which Strava lets me as I’ve well over a decade
>>>> in now!
>>>
>>> I think I can do that with Garmin Connect, too, but I don't. I doubt
>>> they would get exported into my database, but the Garmin Data base
>>> must save them. I generally don't stop to take pictures, anyway.
>> I do like a photo I even stop on the commute if the light is right!
>>
>> I get fit etc as by product of enjoying my bike ride, which does often
>> include photos depending on the area. Some rides are gentle cafe rides
>> others such as the night gravel are rather full on!
>>>
>>> I also have a Strava account and my data transfers over there from
>>> Garmin Connect. I don't have a paid account and I don't have any
>>> reason to look at the Strava data. I don't know why I keep it...
>>>
>> I generally disconnect stuff and remove accounts if I don’t use something
>> as well seems unwise to keep at that point if I’m not actively using it.
>
> There didn't seem to be anu obvious way to remove it.
>
Strava?

Disconnect the accounts in Garmin app be that connect or express and
deactivate or delete the Strava account, I did similar with LinkedIn
realised I never used it!

But mosty apps that I’ve connected to Strava be they mapping or otherwise
to try and decided not for me!

Roger Merriman