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In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
called Closing Velocity theory as an
alternative. That alternative has no
contradictions; but the first relativity does.
That secondary paper is more primary
now... as it is closer to the truth.

Mitchell Raemsch

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tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
> called Closing Velocity theory as an
> alternative. That alternative has no
> contradictions; but the first relativity does.
> That secondary paper is more primary
> now... as it is closer to the truth.
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?

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 by: Michael Moroney - Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:24 UTC

On 9/14/2021 11:01 PM, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
>> In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
>> called Closing Velocity theory as an
>> alternative. That alternative has no
>> contradictions; but the first relativity does.
>> That secondary paper is more primary
>> now... as it is closer to the truth.
>>
>> Mitchell Raemsch
> I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?
>

It exists only in Mitch's addled imagination. He repeats that once in a
while. He was asked for references several times before and never
provided any. It's like how Mitch somehow knows what Einstein said on
his last day, even though his nurse, the only one with him, couldn't
understand the German he spoke.

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onsdag 15 september 2021 kl. 16:24:36 UTC+2 skrev Michael Moroney:
> On 9/14/2021 11:01 PM, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> >> In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
> >> called Closing Velocity theory as an
> >> alternative. That alternative has no
> >> contradictions; but the first relativity does.
> >> That secondary paper is more primary
> >> now... as it is closer to the truth.
> >>
> >> Mitchell Raemsch
> > I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?
> >
> It exists only in Mitch's addled imagination. He repeats that once in a
> while. He was asked for references several times before and never
> provided any. It's like how Mitch somehow knows what Einstein said on
> his last day, even though his nurse, the only one with him, couldn't
> understand the German he spoke.
A common theme among cranks, it seems.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 17:29 UTC

On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 10:09:28 AM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> onsdag 15 september 2021 kl. 16:24:36 UTC+2 skrev Michael Moroney:
> > On 9/14/2021 11:01 PM, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > >> In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
> > >> called Closing Velocity theory as an
> > >> alternative. That alternative has no
> > >> contradictions; but the first relativity does.
> > >> That secondary paper is more primary
> > >> now... as it is closer to the truth.
> > >>
> > >> Mitchell Raemsch
> > > I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?
> > >
> > It exists only in Mitch's addled imagination. He repeats that once in a
> > while. He was asked for references several times before and never
> > provided any. It's like how Mitch somehow knows what Einstein said on
> > his last day, even though his nurse, the only one with him, couldn't
> > understand the German he spoke.

She gave him his pencil you moron.
He did write it down...

> A common theme among cranks, it seems.

The paper is real... even if the internet does not have
what Einstein proposed as an alternative in 1905...
or his families last day paper...

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 17:37 UTC

On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 8:01:52 PM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
> > called Closing Velocity theory as an
> > alternative. That alternative has no
> > contradictions; but the first relativity does.
> > That secondary paper is more primary
> > now... as it is closer to the truth.
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?

Because the world does not want to hear it
it would not be on the internet you moron...
What is false on the face of it is the Twin contradiction.
They both ought to see their clocks as the same
of they share relativities mutual motion...
Why are relative motions opposite?
Why does the sky turn opposite the Earth?
Begin to move and why is there an opposite
appearance of motion around?
Real motion creates an opposite appearance...

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:43 UTC

On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 10:37:39 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 8:01:52 PM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
> > > called Closing Velocity theory as an
> > > alternative. That alternative has no
> > > contradictions; but the first relativity does.
> > > That secondary paper is more primary
> > > now... as it is closer to the truth.
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?
> Because the world does not want to hear it
> it would not be on the internet you moron...
> What is false on the face of it is the Twin contradiction.
> They both ought to see their clocks as the same
> of they share relativities mutual motion...
> Why are relative motions opposite?
> Why does the sky turn opposite the Earth?
> Begin to move and why is there an opposite
> appearance of motion around?
> Real motion creates an opposite appearance...
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

What would be known is that he claimed
not everything is relative. He was not an atheist.
He had his God instead. Only atheism does not
like that...

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torsdag 16 september 2021 kl. 19:37:39 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 8:01:52 PM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
> > > called Closing Velocity theory as an
> > > alternative. That alternative has no
> > > contradictions; but the first relativity does.
> > > That secondary paper is more primary
> > > now... as it is closer to the truth.
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?
> Because the world does not want to hear it
> it would not be on the internet you moron...
> What is false on the face of it is the Twin contradiction.
> They both ought to see their clocks as the same
> of they share relativities mutual motion...
> Why are relative motions opposite?
> Why does the sky turn opposite the Earth?
> Begin to move and why is there an opposite
> appearance of motion around?
> Real motion creates an opposite appearance...
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
Why do you think the twin paradox doesn't have a solution``?

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On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 1:28:11 PM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> torsdag 16 september 2021 kl. 19:37:39 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 8:01:52 PM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
> > > > called Closing Velocity theory as an
> > > > alternative. That alternative has no
> > > > contradictions; but the first relativity does.
> > > > That secondary paper is more primary
> > > > now... as it is closer to the truth.
> > > >
> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?
> > Because the world does not want to hear it
> > it would not be on the internet you moron...
> > What is false on the face of it is the Twin contradiction.
> > They both ought to see their clocks as the same
> > of they share relativities mutual motion...
> > Why are relative motions opposite?
> > Why does the sky turn opposite the Earth?
> > Begin to move and why is there an opposite
> > appearance of motion around?
> > Real motion creates an opposite appearance...
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> Why do you think the twin paradox doesn't have a solution``?

If both clocks have a rate how can they both
be slower than one another?

Mitchell Raemsch

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torsdag 16 september 2021 kl. 23:21:58 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 1:28:11 PM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > torsdag 16 september 2021 kl. 19:37:39 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 8:01:52 PM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > > In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
> > > > > called Closing Velocity theory as an
> > > > > alternative. That alternative has no
> > > > > contradictions; but the first relativity does.
> > > > > That secondary paper is more primary
> > > > > now... as it is closer to the truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?
> > > Because the world does not want to hear it
> > > it would not be on the internet you moron...
> > > What is false on the face of it is the Twin contradiction.
> > > They both ought to see their clocks as the same
> > > of they share relativities mutual motion...
> > > Why are relative motions opposite?
> > > Why does the sky turn opposite the Earth?
> > > Begin to move and why is there an opposite
> > > appearance of motion around?
> > > Real motion creates an opposite appearance...
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > Why do you think the twin paradox doesn't have a solution``?
> If both clocks have a rate how can they both
> be slower than one another?
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
Because a boost changes the hyperplane of simultaneousity.

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On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 3:00:37 PM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> torsdag 16 september 2021 kl. 23:21:58 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 1:28:11 PM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > torsdag 16 september 2021 kl. 19:37:39 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 8:01:52 PM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
> > > > > > called Closing Velocity theory as an
> > > > > > alternative. That alternative has no
> > > > > > contradictions; but the first relativity does.
> > > > > > That secondary paper is more primary
> > > > > > now... as it is closer to the truth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?
> > > > Because the world does not want to hear it
> > > > it would not be on the internet you moron...
> > > > What is false on the face of it is the Twin contradiction.
> > > > They both ought to see their clocks as the same
> > > > of they share relativities mutual motion...
> > > > Why are relative motions opposite?
> > > > Why does the sky turn opposite the Earth?
> > > > Begin to move and why is there an opposite
> > > > appearance of motion around?
> > > > Real motion creates an opposite appearance...
> > > >
> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > Why do you think the twin paradox doesn't have a solution``?
> > If both clocks have a rate how can they both
> > be slower than one another?
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> Because a boost changes the hyperplane of simultaneousity.

Right... you moron...Come back when you have an answer instead
of pretending...

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On 9/16/2021 1:29 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 10:09:28 AM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
>> onsdag 15 september 2021 kl. 16:24:36 UTC+2 skrev Michael Moroney:
>>> On 9/14/2021 11:01 PM, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
>>>>> In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
>>>>> called Closing Velocity theory as an
>>>>> alternative. That alternative has no
>>>>> contradictions; but the first relativity does.
>>>>> That secondary paper is more primary
>>>>> now... as it is closer to the truth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>> I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?
>>>>
>>> It exists only in Mitch's addled imagination. He repeats that once in a
>>> while. He was asked for references several times before and never
>>> provided any. It's like how Mitch somehow knows what Einstein said on
>>> his last day, even though his nurse, the only one with him, couldn't
>>> understand the German he spoke.
>
> She gave him his pencil you moron.
> He did write it down...
>
>> A common theme among cranks, it seems.
>
> The paper is real...

So let's see a reference, or especially an image of it. You can't
because it never existed.

And why would Einstein, if he was so far gone he couldn't think to speak
in English, still have enough ability to write stuff down?

> even if the internet does not have
> what Einstein proposed as an alternative in 1905...

So that's a lie as well.

> or his families last day paper...

Oh the usual crank conspiracy theory. Nobody has that {paper,
recording, statement etc} but I know what it said. No you don't, if
nobody has it, why would you have seen it?

Just admit you lied.

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On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 3:40:13 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 9/16/2021 1:29 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 10:09:28 AM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> onsdag 15 september 2021 kl. 16:24:36 UTC+2 skrev Michael Moroney:
> >>> On 9/14/2021 11:01 PM, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> >>>>> In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
> >>>>> called Closing Velocity theory as an
> >>>>> alternative. That alternative has no
> >>>>> contradictions; but the first relativity does.
> >>>>> That secondary paper is more primary
> >>>>> now... as it is closer to the truth.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>> I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?
> >>>>
> >>> It exists only in Mitch's addled imagination. He repeats that once in a
> >>> while. He was asked for references several times before and never
> >>> provided any. It's like how Mitch somehow knows what Einstein said on
> >>> his last day, even though his nurse, the only one with him, couldn't
> >>> understand the German he spoke.
> >
> > She gave him his pencil you moron.
> > He did write it down...
> >
> >> A common theme among cranks, it seems.
> >
> > The paper is real...
> So let's see a reference, or especially an image of it. You can't
> because it never existed.

Sure it does. The world just wants to say it doesn't.
>
> And why would Einstein, if he was so far gone he couldn't think to speak
> in English, still have enough ability to write stuff down?
> > even if the internet does not have
> > what Einstein proposed as an alternative in 1905...
> So that's a lie as well.
> > or his families last day paper...
> Oh the usual crank conspiracy theory. Nobody has that {paper,
> recording, statement etc} but I know what it said. No you don't, if
> nobody has it, why would you have seen it?
>
> Just admit you lied.

The liar lies but it is not me or what Einstein said about atheism
being his enemy but he could not see it until his last say..
He wrote then that Bohr was his biggest problem instead.

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: Michael Moroney - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 02:30 UTC

On 9/17/2021 8:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 3:40:13 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 9/16/2021 1:29 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 10:09:28 AM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> onsdag 15 september 2021 kl. 16:24:36 UTC+2 skrev Michael Moroney:
>>>>> On 9/14/2021 11:01 PM, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
>>>>>>> In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
>>>>>>> called Closing Velocity theory as an
>>>>>>> alternative. That alternative has no
>>>>>>> contradictions; but the first relativity does.
>>>>>>> That secondary paper is more primary
>>>>>>> now... as it is closer to the truth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>> I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?
>>>>>>
>>>>> It exists only in Mitch's addled imagination. He repeats that once in a
>>>>> while. He was asked for references several times before and never
>>>>> provided any. It's like how Mitch somehow knows what Einstein said on
>>>>> his last day, even though his nurse, the only one with him, couldn't
>>>>> understand the German he spoke.
>>>
>>> She gave him his pencil you moron.
>>> He did write it down...
>>>
>>>> A common theme among cranks, it seems.
>>>
>>> The paper is real...
>> So let's see a reference, or especially an image of it. You can't
>> because it never existed.
>
> Sure it does.

Well, then show us the evidence.

> The world just wants to say it doesn't.

Sorry, conspiracy theories are of no value. Plus lots of people would
want to see this if it existed. The problem is, lying Roy Masters Mitch,
that it never existed, you just made it up.

>> And why would Einstein, if he was so far gone he couldn't think to speak
>> in English, still have enough ability to write stuff down?
>>> even if the internet does not have
>>> what Einstein proposed as an alternative in 1905...
>> So that's a lie as well.
>>> or his families last day paper...
>> Oh the usual crank conspiracy theory. Nobody has that {paper,
>> recording, statement etc} but I know what it said. No you don't, if
>> nobody has it, why would you have seen it?
>>
>> Just admit you lied.
>
> The liar lies but it is not me or what Einstein said about atheism
> being his enemy but he could not see it until his last say..

Well then show us, Lying Mitch. You lied again by saying you didn't lie
when you did.

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Subject: Re: Einstein didn't need relativity
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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 02:47 UTC

On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 7:30:29 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 9/17/2021 8:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 3:40:13 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> On 9/16/2021 1:29 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 10:09:28 AM UTC-7, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> onsdag 15 september 2021 kl. 16:24:36 UTC+2 skrev Michael Moroney:
> >>>>> On 9/14/2021 11:01 PM, markus...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> tisdag 14 september 2021 kl. 20:47:24 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> >>>>>>> In 1905 he proposed an Addendum paper
> >>>>>>> called Closing Velocity theory as an
> >>>>>>> alternative. That alternative has no
> >>>>>>> contradictions; but the first relativity does.
> >>>>>>> That secondary paper is more primary
> >>>>>>> now... as it is closer to the truth.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>>>> I googled Closing Velocity theory but didn't find anything. Could you perhaps lay out your reasons for why you think relativity is false?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> It exists only in Mitch's addled imagination. He repeats that once in a
> >>>>> while. He was asked for references several times before and never
> >>>>> provided any. It's like how Mitch somehow knows what Einstein said on
> >>>>> his last day, even though his nurse, the only one with him, couldn't
> >>>>> understand the German he spoke.
> >>>
> >>> She gave him his pencil you moron.
> >>> He did write it down...
> >>>
> >>>> A common theme among cranks, it seems.
> >>>
> >>> The paper is real...
> >> So let's see a reference, or especially an image of it. You can't
> >> because it never existed.
> >
> > Sure it does.
> Well, then show us the evidence.
> > The world just wants to say it doesn't.
> Sorry, conspiracy theories are of no value. Plus lots of people would
> want to see this if it existed. The problem is, lying Roy Masters Mitch,
> that it never existed, you just made it up.
> >> And why would Einstein, if he was so far gone he couldn't think to speak
> >> in English, still have enough ability to write stuff down?
> >>> even if the internet does not have
> >>> what Einstein proposed as an alternative in 1905...
> >> So that's a lie as well.
> >>> or his families last day paper...
> >> Oh the usual crank conspiracy theory. Nobody has that {paper,
> >> recording, statement etc} but I know what it said. No you don't, if
> >> nobody has it, why would you have seen it?
> >>
> >> Just admit you lied.
> >
> > The liar lies but it is not me or what Einstein said about atheism
> > being his enemy but he could not see it until his last say..
> Well then show us, Lying Mitch. You lied again by saying you didn't lie
> when you did.

You like the world do not want to here it...
Einstein won. He said the atheists were his
problem on his last day.
If you cannot find what the world does not
want you to hear it is not my problem.
It is yours.

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: Michael Moroney - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 03:07 UTC

On 9/17/2021 10:47 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 7:30:29 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 9/17/2021 8:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 3:40:13 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:

>>>> Oh the usual crank conspiracy theory. Nobody has that {paper,
>>>> recording, statement etc} but I know what it said. No you don't, if
>>>> nobody has it, why would you have seen it?
>>>>
>>>> Just admit you lied.
>>>
>>> The liar lies but it is not me or what Einstein said about atheism
>>> being his enemy but he could not see it until his last say..
>> Well then show us, Lying Mitch. You lied again by saying you didn't lie
>> when you did.
>
> You like the world do not want to here it...

Wrong, lying Mitch, I'd love to see it. Why do you think I asked you for it?

> Einstein won. He said the atheists were his
> problem on his last day.

Prove it.

> If you cannot find what the world does not
> want you to hear it is not my problem.
> It is yours.

It is your problem that you are as much of a liar as Roy Masters. You
really are Roy Masters with all your lies, aren't you?

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