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Colonization Of Mars Practically Impossible, Says Greek-American Space
Expert
By
Paula Tsoni
February 11, 2023
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Dr Stamatios Krimigis in a TV interview with Nikos Chazinikolaou on Ant1 TV.
Colonization Of Mars Practically Impossible, Says Greek-American Space
Expert Dr Stamatios Krimigis in a TV interview with Nikos Chazinikolaou
on Ant1 TV. Credit: Ant1News.gr
Greek-American space exploration scientist Dr Stamatios Krimigis told a
TV interview on Thursday that the colonization of Mars is practically
impossible, at least for the next 200 years.

Speaking to journalist Nikos Chatzinikolaou on Greek private network
Ant1 TV, Dr Krimigis opined that Elon Musk, a passionate advocate of the
colonization of Mars, hasn’t realized the actual difficulties of such a
venture.

“Manned missions for visit and exploration, that is something else, but
colonization, certainly not,” the acclaimed space expert said.

SpaceX, the rocket company co-founded by Elon Musk in 2002, has made it
an ultimate goal to send manned flights to Mars and eventually colonize
the Red Planet.

The billionaire businessman stated recently that a manned mission to
Mars could happen as early as 2029 when asked on Twitter.

Colonization of Mars not possible “in Elon Musk’s era”
This isn’t the first time that the Greek space exploration scientist
doubts the feasibility of human colonization of Mars. In a previous
interview with AMNA in spring 2022, he had called plans of a human
settlement on Mars a distant dream.

Dr Krimigis, who has a PHD in the ways that particles are diffused
during solar explosions, now went into more detail and explained to
Greek talk show host Chatzinikolaou that humans on Mars would be
completely unprotected in the event of a solar explosion due to the lack
of magnetic fields and an atmosphere on the Red Planet.

If they were to colonize Mars, humans would need shelters dug at least
one metre underground to protect themselves from such events, he added.
And while that could perhaps be feasible in 200 years from today, it
will not be so “in Elon Musk’s era.”

He does believe though that a manned mission to Mars could materialize
in the next decade.

Krimigis’s participation in space exploration programs
Born on the island of Chios, Dr Krimigis is a member of the
International Academy of Astronautics, where he serves on the Board of
Trustees, per NASA.

He has built instruments that have flown to seven of the nine planets,
while he has published over 350 papers in journals and books.

In addition, Dr Krimigis has contributed to many of the United States’
unmanned space exploration programs of the Solar System and beyond, and
in 1999, the International Astronomical Union named the asteroid 8323
Krimigis (previously 1979 UH) in his honor, according to Wikipedia.

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On 12/02/2023 23:09, a425couple wrote:
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> Colonization Of Mars Practically Impossible, Says Greek-American Space
> Expert
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> Paula Tsoni
> February 11, 2023
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Rule No 1 of solar system colonisation

Once you have got out of the gravity well stay out.

The old time SF writers such as Arthur C Clarke and Robert Heinlein
understood this, the asterid belt is the place to be , all the minerals
of planet already broken up and just floating around in chunks. Want
gravity, grab the nearest asteroid , hollow it out and spin it.

All that Mars has are sandstorms, an unbreathable atmosphere and a tiny
ice cap.

a425couple wrote:

>Colonization Of Mars Practically Impossible, Says Greek-American Space
>Expert Dr Stamatios Krimigis
Right. Who prefers to believe "Expert Dr Stamatios Krimigis",
and who would rather trust Elon's track record and perseverance?

Elon may be a weirdo on many levels, but man, does he have a track record!

On 2/15/23 06:17, DAN wrote:
> a425couple wrote:
>
>> Colonization Of Mars Practically Impossible, Says Greek-American Space
>> Expert Dr Stamatios Krimigis
> Right. Who prefers to believe "Expert Dr Stamatios Krimigis",
> and who would rather trust Elon's track record and perseverance?
>
> Elon may be a weirdo on many levels, but man, does he have a track record!
>

Indeed, Elon Musk does have a track record,
or reducing the cost, thus increasing the number of electric cars, and
of reducing the cost, thus increasing the number of productive
satellites in orbit.

a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Indeed, Elon Musk does have a track record,
> or reducing the cost, thus increasing the number of electric cars, and
> of reducing the cost, thus increasing the number of productive
> satellites in orbit.

Reducing the cost of electric cars has nothing at all to do with going to
Mars. Neither do satellites in orbit.

Sending humans to Mars is absurd at this point. We should have a
permanent base on the Moon before we go anywhere else.

Why? Because the moon is 3 days away. Mars is 6 months away. We can
have spacecraft going back and forth to the moon on a daily/weekly basis,
taking oxygen, people, food, water and equipment.

Mars is a one-way suicide mission. With no chance for “help to arrive”.
With nothing to eat and nowhere to live once you get there. Assuming you
get there.

Plus, there is no advantage to going to Mars. What is the point? We can
do everything faster and cheaper on the moon.

Bob Campbell wrote on 16/2/23 1:02 pm:
> a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Indeed, Elon Musk does have a track record, or reducing the cost,
>> thus increasing the number of electric cars, and of reducing the
>> cost, thus increasing the number of productive satellites in
>> orbit.
>
> Reducing the cost of electric cars has nothing at all to do with
> going to Mars. Neither do satellites in orbit.

If Elon gets busy launching satellites around Mars at least we should be
sure of a decent mobile phone network when we get there!! ;-P

> Sending humans to Mars is absurd at this point. We should have a
> permanent base on the Moon before we go anywhere else.
>
> Why? Because the moon is 3 days away. Mars is 6 months away. We
> can have spacecraft going back and forth to the moon on a
> daily/weekly basis, taking oxygen, people, food, water and
> equipment.
>
> Mars is a one-way suicide mission. With no chance for “help to
> arrive”. With nothing to eat and nowhere to live once you get there.
> Assuming you get there.

But at least we know we can survive long term on Mars!! Just look at
Matt Damon in "The Martian"!! ;-P

> Plus, there is no advantage to going to Mars. What is the point? We
> can do everything faster and cheaper on the moon.

Well, we're doing a bloody good job of destroying this planet so we need
another planet to move to!
--
Daniel

On 16/02/2023 7:25 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Bob Campbell wrote on 16/2/23 1:02 pm:
>
>> Plus, there is no advantage to going to Mars.  What is the point?  We
>> can do everything faster and cheaper on the moon.
>
> Well, we're doing a bloody good job of destroying this planet so we need
> another planet to move to!

There is zero evidence humans can survive/thrive on other planets. Some
clowns argue because Columbus could travel to USA by boat it's
comparable to humans living on other planets! I'm not kidding, this is
the argument they use. Insane.

Whisper wrote on 20/2/23 7:31 pm:
> On 16/02/2023 7:25 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Bob Campbell wrote on 16/2/23 1:02 pm:
>>
>>> Plus, there is no advantage to going to Mars.  What is the point?  We
>>> can do everything faster and cheaper on the moon.
>>
>> Well, we're doing a bloody good job of destroying this planet so we
>> need another planet to move to!
>
> There is zero evidence humans can survive/thrive on other planets.  Some
> clowns argue because Columbus could travel to USA by boat it's
> comparable to humans living on other planets!  I'm not kidding, this is
> the argument they use.  Insane.

Back in Columbus' times, some people expected him to sail of the edge of
the World ... maybe into the mouth of some monster or other.

But people did follow, settling in The Americas, although some would
have drowned or otherwise died.

Same might happen going to the Planets/Stars!

Just by-the-by, why is this being cross-posted to alt.fan.heinlein ....
or do some think we ARE just discussing Science-Fiction?? ;-p
--
Daniel

On 20/02/2023 9:52 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Whisper wrote on 20/2/23 7:31 pm:
>> On 16/02/2023 7:25 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Bob Campbell wrote on 16/2/23 1:02 pm:
>>>
>>>> Plus, there is no advantage to going to Mars.  What is the point?  We
>>>> can do everything faster and cheaper on the moon.
>>>
>>> Well, we're doing a bloody good job of destroying this planet so we
>>> need another planet to move to!
>>
>> There is zero evidence humans can survive/thrive on other planets.
>> Some clowns argue because Columbus could travel to USA by boat it's
>> comparable to humans living on other planets!  I'm not kidding, this
>> is the argument they use.  Insane.
>
> Back in Columbus' times, some people expected him to sail of the edge of
> the World ... maybe into the mouth of some monster or other.
>
> But people did follow, settling in The Americas, although some would
> have drowned or otherwise died.
>

Humans evolved to survive on earth, Americas is on planet earth.

> Same might happen going to the Planets/Stars!
>

er, Columbus didn't travel to another planet. That's kind of important.

> Just by-the-by, why is this being cross-posted to alt.fan.heinlein ....
> or do some think we ARE just discussing Science-Fiction?? ;-p

Not much science here that's for sure, mostly bullshit.

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