On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 8:59:02 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, 26 January 2022 at 12:38:49 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > https://timetoolsltd.com/gps/what-is-gps-time/
> > > > Now let's look at the definition of time valid in your moronic
> > > > physics. "Time is what clocks indicate". Looks like GPS time
> > > > fulfill it?
> > > > What do you think, poor halfbrains?
> > > Of course, dear half-brain.
> > > GPS time is what the master clock at USNO says it is.
> > > It is locked to TAI btw,
> > > (with minor differences that average out)
> >
> > Oh, so it is a time. Fine. So, next question is: do its
> > properties correspond to the properties of time
> > discovered, or predicted, or invented, by your idiot
> > guru and described in his famous article?
> Nonsense question. Time just is what it is.
> GPS time is ticks on the GPS clock.

But a unit of GPS time (a GPS second) does not represent the same amount of time as an earth second. What is the explanation for that?
>
> You really need to invent a better question,
>
> Jan

Ken Seto wrote:

>> Nonsense question. Time just is what it is. GPS time is ticks on the
>> GPS clock.
>
> But a unit of GPS time (a GPS second) does not represent the same
> amount of time as an earth second. What is the explanation for that?

so you don't know what a *unit* stands for in physics and mathematics.
Units *are* to represent the same amount.

Ken Seto wrote:

>> I also have a wall clock that loses 2 minutes a day that I’m about to
>> throw out. I’m pretty sure that this does not mean that there are
>> 86,280 seconds in a day because this clock says so, and I’m pretty sure
>> that relativity does not insist that it’s so anyway.
>
> This means that a clock time unit such as a clock second does not
> represent the same amount of time in different frames.

again, you don't know what *unit* stands for in physics, math, science
and technology. If not the same, that's *NOT* an unit. Did you see how
big Japan is??

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 8:59:02 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, 26 January 2022 at 12:38:49 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > https://timetoolsltd.com/gps/what-is-gps-time/
> > > > > Now let's look at the definition of time valid in your moronic
> > > > > physics. "Time is what clocks indicate". Looks like GPS time
> > > > > fulfill it?
> > > > > What do you think, poor halfbrains?
> > > > Of course, dear half-brain.
> > > > GPS time is what the master clock at USNO says it is.
> > > > It is locked to TAI btw,
> > > > (with minor differences that average out)
> > >
> > > Oh, so it is a time. Fine. So, next question is: do its
> > > properties correspond to the properties of time
> > > discovered, or predicted, or invented, by your idiot
> > > guru and described in his famous article?
> > Nonsense question. Time just is what it is.
> > GPS time is ticks on the GPS clock.
>
> But a unit of GPS time (a GPS second) does not represent the same amount
> of time as an earth second.

But it does. A second on the GPS master clock at USNO,
which is what GPS time is, is the same as a TAI second,
which is the one and only second there is in physics.

> What is the explanation for that?

No explanation is needed or possible.
It is just the way things are, by design,

Jan

> > You really need to invent a better question,
> >
> > Jan

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 4:56:48 PM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 8:59:02 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, 26 January 2022 at 12:38:49 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > https://timetoolsltd.com/gps/what-is-gps-time/
> > > > > > Now let's look at the definition of time valid in your moronic
> > > > > > physics. "Time is what clocks indicate". Looks like GPS time
> > > > > > fulfill it?
> > > > > > What do you think, poor halfbrains?
> > > > > Of course, dear half-brain.
> > > > > GPS time is what the master clock at USNO says it is.
> > > > > It is locked to TAI btw,
> > > > > (with minor differences that average out)
> > > >
> > > > Oh, so it is a time. Fine. So, next question is: do its
> > > > properties correspond to the properties of time
> > > > discovered, or predicted, or invented, by your idiot
> > > > guru and described in his famous article?
> > > Nonsense question. Time just is what it is.
> > > GPS time is ticks on the GPS clock.
> >
> > But a unit of GPS time (a GPS second) does not represent the same amount
> > of time as an earth second.
> But it does. A second on the GPS master clock at USNO,
> which is what GPS time is, is the same as a TAI second,
> which is the one and only second there is in physics.

So are you asserting that a clock second is an absolute interval of time?
I don’t think so. I think a clock second in different frame contains a different amount of time
and that’s why a clock accumulated different number of clock seconds when it returns
after a journey.

> > What is the explanation for that?
> No explanation is needed or possible.
> It is just the way things are, by design,
>
> Jan
> > > You really need to invent a better question,
> > >
> > > Jan

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 4:07:19 PM UTC-5, Wills Duket wrote:
> Ken Seto wrote:
>
> >> Nonsense question. Time just is what it is. GPS time is ticks on the
> >> GPS clock.
> >
> > But a unit of GPS time (a GPS second) does not represent the same
> > amount of time as an earth second. What is the explanation for that?
> so you don't know what a *unit* stands for in physics and mathematics.
> Units *are* to represent the same amount.

It appears that you don’t know what a unit is. You think wrongly that a unit of clock time (a clock second ) is an absolute interval of time.

Ken Seto wrote:

> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 4:07:19 PM UTC-5, Wills Duket wrote:
>> Ken Seto wrote:
>>
>> >> Nonsense question. Time just is what it is. GPS time is ticks on the
>> >> GPS clock.
>> >
>> > But a unit of GPS time (a GPS second) does not represent the same
>> > amount of time as an earth second. What is the explanation for that?
>> so you don't know what a *unit* stands for in physics and mathematics.
>> Units *are* to represent the same amount.
>
> It appears that you don’t know what a unit is. You think wrongly that a
> unit of clock time (a clock second ) is an absolute interval of time.

I don't think. That's a convention for that particular *unit*, any
*unit*. Go to wikipedia and come back with what it says. Don't be a fool,
just do it.

On Thursday, 3 February 2022 at 22:56:48 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 8:59:02 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, 26 January 2022 at 12:38:49 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > https://timetoolsltd.com/gps/what-is-gps-time/
> > > > > > Now let's look at the definition of time valid in your moronic
> > > > > > physics. "Time is what clocks indicate". Looks like GPS time
> > > > > > fulfill it?
> > > > > > What do you think, poor halfbrains?
> > > > > Of course, dear half-brain.
> > > > > GPS time is what the master clock at USNO says it is.
> > > > > It is locked to TAI btw,
> > > > > (with minor differences that average out)
> > > >
> > > > Oh, so it is a time. Fine. So, next question is: do its
> > > > properties correspond to the properties of time
> > > > discovered, or predicted, or invented, by your idiot
> > > > guru and described in his famous article?
> > > Nonsense question. Time just is what it is.
> > > GPS time is ticks on the GPS clock.
> >
> > But a unit of GPS time (a GPS second) does not represent the same amount
> > of time as an earth second.
> But it does. A second on the GPS master clock at USNO,
> which is what GPS time is, is the same as a TAI second,
> which is the one and only second there is in physics.

JJ, poor halfbrain, TAI second and TAI cllocks are improper
according to your precious physics. That's because TAI time
is observer independent, i.e. absolute.

> > What is the explanation for that?
> No explanation is needed or possible.
> It is just the way things are, by design,

No, things are exactly opposite. By design. And it's
because they are opposite that your religion had
to ban common sense.

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 4:56:48 PM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 8:59:02 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, 26 January 2022 at 12:38:49 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > > > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://timetoolsltd.com/gps/what-is-gps-time/
> > > > > > > Now let's look at the definition of time valid in your moronic
> > > > > > > physics. "Time is what clocks indicate". Looks like GPS time
> > > > > > > fulfill it?
> > > > > > > What do you think, poor halfbrains?
> > > > > > Of course, dear half-brain.
> > > > > > GPS time is what the master clock at USNO says it is.
> > > > > > It is locked to TAI btw,
> > > > > > (with minor differences that average out)
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, so it is a time. Fine. So, next question is: do its
> > > > > properties correspond to the properties of time
> > > > > discovered, or predicted, or invented, by your idiot
> > > > > guru and described in his famous article?
> > > > Nonsense question. Time just is what it is.
> > > > GPS time is ticks on the GPS clock.
> > >
> > > But a unit of GPS time (a GPS second) does not represent the same amount
> > > of time as an earth second.
> > But it does. A second on the GPS master clock at USNO,
> > which is what GPS time is, is the same as a TAI second,
> > which is the one and only second there is in physics.
>
> So are you asserting that a clock second is an absolute interval of time?

Correctly, an interval of proper time.
(oscilations of cesium atoms and all that)

You understand what that means, I hope?

Jan

PS Invariance under time translations (and hence energy conservation)
is a fundamental postulate of physics.
So yesterday's second will be the same as today's second,
and tomorrow's second will be the same once again.

On Friday, 4 February 2022 at 11:06:39 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:

> Correctly, an interval of proper time.
> (oscilations of cesium atoms and all that)

WHAT???

>
> You understand what that means, I hope?
>
> Jan
>
> PS Invariance under time translations (and hence energy conservation)
> is a fundamental postulate of physics.
> So yesterday's second will be the same as today's second,
> and tomorrow's second will be the same once again.

How can you be sure? TAI definition is an average of some clocks.
If tomorrow an earthquake put one of them a little higher...

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 4:56:48 PM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 8:59:02 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, 26 January 2022 at 12:38:49 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > https://timetoolsltd.com/gps/what-is-gps-time/
> > > > > > Now let's look at the definition of time valid in your moronic
> > > > > > physics. "Time is what clocks indicate". Looks like GPS time
> > > > > > fulfill it?
> > > > > > What do you think, poor halfbrains?
> > > > > Of course, dear half-brain.
> > > > > GPS time is what the master clock at USNO says it is.
> > > > > It is locked to TAI btw,
> > > > > (with minor differences that average out)
> > > >
> > > > Oh, so it is a time. Fine. So, next question is: do its
> > > > properties correspond to the properties of time
> > > > discovered, or predicted, or invented, by your idiot
> > > > guru and described in his famous article?
> > > Nonsense question. Time just is what it is.
> > > GPS time is ticks on the GPS clock.
> >
> > But a unit of GPS time (a GPS second) does not represent the same amount
> > of time as an earth second.
> But it does. A second on the GPS master clock at USNO,
> which is what GPS time is, is the same as a TAI second,
> which is the one and only second there is in physics.

No it doesn’t.....that’s why the GPS second is redefined to have 4.4647 periods more of the Cs 133 radiation than the earth second.

> > What is the explanation for that?
> No explanation is needed or possible.
> It is just the way things are, by design,
>
> Jan
> > > You really need to invent a better question,
> > >
> > > Jan

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 4:56:48 PM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 8:59:02 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, 26 January 2022 at 12:38:49 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > > > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://timetoolsltd.com/gps/what-is-gps-time/
> > > > > > > Now let's look at the definition of time valid in your moronic
> > > > > > > physics. "Time is what clocks indicate". Looks like GPS time
> > > > > > > fulfill it?
> > > > > > > What do you think, poor halfbrains?
> > > > > > Of course, dear half-brain.
> > > > > > GPS time is what the master clock at USNO says it is.
> > > > > > It is locked to TAI btw,
> > > > > > (with minor differences that average out)
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, so it is a time. Fine. So, next question is: do its
> > > > > properties correspond to the properties of time
> > > > > discovered, or predicted, or invented, by your idiot
> > > > > guru and described in his famous article?
> > > > Nonsense question. Time just is what it is.
> > > > GPS time is ticks on the GPS clock.
> > >
> > > But a unit of GPS time (a GPS second) does not represent the same amount
> > > of time as an earth second.
> > But it does. A second on the GPS master clock at USNO,
> > which is what GPS time is, is the same as a TAI second,
> > which is the one and only second there is in physics.
>
> No it doesn't.....that's why the GPS second is redefined to have 4.4647
> periods more of the Cs 133 radiation than the earth second.

Eh, you do know what USNO is, and where it can be found?

Jan