I guess that someone here decided that owning more than one piece of junk bike is a bad thing. Personally I believe that if you cannot collect the sorts of bikes you like that you are in serious financial problems. Looking at my Moser Leader AX, my Tomassini Fire, my Fondriest Status X, Aliverti or Land Shark gives me great joy but whoever found that disconcerting must be really poor not to be able to have a good bike and instead has to settle of an old bike that he can then convince himself is better than taking up what little space his poor lifestyle allows him. When you're on a bicycle tech group and are touting one old bicycle as good enough, perhaps you're in the wrong place and should be on rec.bicycles.oldtrash? This couldn't have been Flunky with his bragging about all of the good bikes he has. Do you suppose our critic has made the same comment about Flunky?

My NCIS friend who has only one Tomassini for himself and another for his wife spends all of his spare time maintaining these bike to a fault and if he has a problem that would involve ordering a component, he simply has to put a ride off. I, on the other hand have been able to build and update bikes and still have a choice of bikes to ride while waiting for parts. Poor little critic must feel very badly about not being able to do that himself.

On Thu, 4 May 2023 09:09:47 -0700 (PDT),
Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
> I guess that someone here decided that owning more than one
> piece of junk bike is a bad thing. Personally I believe that if
> you cannot collect the sorts of bikes you like that you are in
> serious financial problems. Looking at my Moser Leader AX, my
> Tomassini Fire, my Fondriest Status X, Aliverti or Land Shark
> gives me great joy but whoever found that disconcerting must be
> really poor not to be able to have a good bike and instead has
> to settle of an old bike that he can then convince himself is
> better than taking up what little space his poor lifestyle
> allows him. When you're on a bicycle tech group and are touting
> one old bicycle as good enough, perhaps you're in the wrong
> place and should be on rec.bicycles.oldtrash? This couldn't
> have been Flunky with his bragging about all of the good bikes
> he has. Do you suppose our critic has made the same comment
> about Flunky?
>
> My NCIS friend who has only one Tomassini for himself and
> another for his wife spends all of his spare time maintaining
> these bike to a fault and if he has a problem that would
> involve ordering a component, he simply has to put a ride off.
> I, on the other hand have been able to build and update bikes
> and still have a choice of bikes to ride while waiting for
> parts. Poor little critic must feel very badly about not being
> able to do that himself.

Each to their own.

Me, I have several: a Ritchie Breakway (road bike that can pack
in a suitace), a Giant Bowery (Al frame fixie), and a Santana Team
Ti with couplers. They all get ridden, but some more than others.

--
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 6:09:49 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
> I guess that someone here decided that owning more than one piece of junk bike is a bad thing. Personally I believe that if you cannot collect the sorts of bikes you like that you are in serious financial problems. Looking at my Moser Leader AX, my Tomassini Fire, my Fondriest Status X, Aliverti or Land Shark gives me great joy but whoever found that disconcerting must be really poor not to be able to have a good bike and instead has to settle of an old bike that he can then convince himself is better than taking up what little space his poor lifestyle allows him. When you're on a bicycle tech group and are touting one old bicycle as good enough, perhaps you're in the wrong place and should be on rec.bicycles.oldtrash? This couldn't have been Flunky with his bragging about all of the good bikes he has. Do you suppose our critic has made the same comment about Flunky?
>
> My NCIS friend who has only one Tomassini for himself and another for his wife spends all of his spare time maintaining these bike to a fault and if he has a problem that would involve ordering a component, he simply has to put a ride off. I, on the other hand have been able to build and update bikes and still have a choice of bikes to ride while waiting for parts. Poor little critic must feel very badly about not being able to do that himself.

Tom, non of your bikes makes me jealous but I also don't criticize them or your choices.

Lou

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:50:41 AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 6:09:49 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > I guess that someone here decided that owning more than one piece of junk bike is a bad thing. Personally I believe that if you cannot collect the sorts of bikes you like that you are in serious financial problems. Looking at my Moser Leader AX, my Tomassini Fire, my Fondriest Status X, Aliverti or Land Shark gives me great joy but whoever found that disconcerting must be really poor not to be able to have a good bike and instead has to settle of an old bike that he can then convince himself is better than taking up what little space his poor lifestyle allows him. When you're on a bicycle tech group and are touting one old bicycle as good enough, perhaps you're in the wrong place and should be on rec.bicycles.oldtrash? This couldn't have been Flunky with his bragging about all of the good bikes he has. Do you suppose our critic has made the same comment about Flunky?
> >
> > My NCIS friend who has only one Tomassini for himself and another for his wife spends all of his spare time maintaining these bike to a fault and if he has a problem that would involve ordering a component, he simply has to put a ride off. I, on the other hand have been able to build and update bikes and still have a choice of bikes to ride while waiting for parts. Poor little critic must feel very badly about not being able to do that himself.
> Tom, non of your bikes makes me jealous but I also don't criticize them or your choices.

Lou, you and I aren't looking for the same thing in bicycles. I am not criticizing your choices either above warning you of their possible dangers. I would just as soon see you posting here for the ten or more years I probably have left.

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 1:50:41 PM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 6:09:49 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > I guess that someone here decided that owning more than one piece of junk bike is a bad thing. Personally I believe that if you cannot collect the sorts of bikes you like that you are in serious financial problems. Looking at my Moser Leader AX, my Tomassini Fire, my Fondriest Status X, Aliverti or Land Shark gives me great joy but whoever found that disconcerting must be really poor not to be able to have a good bike and instead has to settle of an old bike that he can then convince himself is better than taking up what little space his poor lifestyle allows him. When you're on a bicycle tech group and are touting one old bicycle as good enough, perhaps you're in the wrong place and should be on rec.bicycles.oldtrash? This couldn't have been Flunky with his bragging about all of the good bikes he has. Do you suppose our critic has made the same comment about Flunky?
> >
> > My NCIS friend who has only one Tomassini for himself and another for his wife spends all of his spare time maintaining these bike to a fault and if he has a problem that would involve ordering a component, he simply has to put a ride off. I, on the other hand have been able to build and update bikes and still have a choice of bikes to ride while waiting for parts. Poor little critic must feel very badly about not being able to do that himself.
> Tom, non of your bikes makes me jealous but I also don't criticize them or your choices.
>

I must have missed the post where someone wrote 'owning more than one piece of junk bike is a bad thing.'

Lou Holtman <lou.holtman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 6:09:49 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> I guess that someone here decided that owning more than one piece of
>> junk bike is a bad thing. Personally I believe that if you cannot
>> collect the sorts of bikes you like that you are in serious financial
>> problems. Looking at my Moser Leader AX, my Tomassini Fire, my Fondriest
>> Status X, Aliverti or Land Shark gives me great joy but whoever found
>> that disconcerting must be really poor not to be able to have a good
>> bike and instead has to settle of an old bike that he can then convince
>> himself is better than taking up what little space his poor lifestyle
>> allows him. When you're on a bicycle tech group and are touting one old
>> bicycle as good enough, perhaps you're in the wrong place and should be on
>> rec.bicycles.oldtrash? This couldn't have been Flunky with his bragging
>> about all of the good bikes he has. Do you suppose our critic has made
>> the same comment about Flunky?
>>
>> My NCIS friend who has only one Tomassini for himself and another for
>> his wife spends all of his spare time maintaining these bike to a fault
>> and if he has a problem that would involve ordering a component, he
>> simply has to put a ride off. I, on the other hand have been able to
>> build and update bikes and still have a choice of bikes to ride while
>> waiting for parts. Poor little critic must feel very badly about not
>> being able to do that himself.
>
>
> Tom, non of your bikes makes me jealous but I also don't criticize them or your choices.
>
> Lou
>
This! Each to their own, some folks do like to change stuff and so on.

funkma...@hotmail.com <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 1:50:41 PM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 6:09:49 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> I guess that someone here decided that owning more than one piece of
>>> junk bike is a bad thing. Personally I believe that if you cannot
>>> collect the sorts of bikes you like that you are in serious financial
>>> problems. Looking at my Moser Leader AX, my Tomassini Fire, my
>>> Fondriest Status X, Aliverti or Land Shark gives me great joy but
>>> whoever found that disconcerting must be really poor not to be able to
>>> have a good bike and instead has to settle of an old bike that he can
>>> then convince himself is better than taking up what little space his
>>> poor lifestyle allows him. When you're on a bicycle tech group and are
>>> touting one old bicycle as good enough, perhaps you're in the wrong
>>> place and should be on rec.bicycles.oldtrash? This couldn't have been
>>> Flunky with his bragging about all of the good bikes he has. Do you
>>> suppose our critic has made the same comment about Flunky?
>>>
>>> My NCIS friend who has only one Tomassini for himself and another for
>>> his wife spends all of his spare time maintaining these bike to a fault
>>> and if he has a problem that would involve ordering a component, he
>>> simply has to put a ride off. I, on the other hand have been able to
>>> build and update bikes and still have a choice of bikes to ride while
>>> waiting for parts. Poor little critic must feel very badly about not
>>> being able to do that himself.
>> Tom, non of your bikes makes me jealous but I also don't criticize them or your choices.
>>
>
> I must have missed the post where someone wrote 'owning more than one
> piece of junk bike is a bad thing.'
>
>

This will be due to Frank commenting on his churn.

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 12:43:38 PM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 1:50:41 PM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
> >> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 6:09:49 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> I guess that someone here decided that owning more than one piece of
> >>> junk bike is a bad thing. Personally I believe that if you cannot
> >>> collect the sorts of bikes you like that you are in serious financial
> >>> problems. Looking at my Moser Leader AX, my Tomassini Fire, my
> >>> Fondriest Status X, Aliverti or Land Shark gives me great joy but
> >>> whoever found that disconcerting must be really poor not to be able to
> >>> have a good bike and instead has to settle of an old bike that he can
> >>> then convince himself is better than taking up what little space his
> >>> poor lifestyle allows him. When you're on a bicycle tech group and are
> >>> touting one old bicycle as good enough, perhaps you're in the wrong
> >>> place and should be on rec.bicycles.oldtrash? This couldn't have been
> >>> Flunky with his bragging about all of the good bikes he has. Do you
> >>> suppose our critic has made the same comment about Flunky?
> >>>
> >>> My NCIS friend who has only one Tomassini for himself and another for
> >>> his wife spends all of his spare time maintaining these bike to a fault
> >>> and if he has a problem that would involve ordering a component, he
> >>> simply has to put a ride off. I, on the other hand have been able to
> >>> build and update bikes and still have a choice of bikes to ride while
> >>> waiting for parts. Poor little critic must feel very badly about not
> >>> being able to do that himself.
> >> Tom, non of your bikes makes me jealous but I also don't criticize them or your choices.
> >>
> >
> > I must have missed the post where someone wrote 'owning more than one
> > piece of junk bike is a bad thing.'
> >
> >
> This will be due to Frank commenting on his churn.

When I got that email I should have known immediately. Poor Frank is unhappy about everything that anyone other than he does. He didn't like the idea of me moving from a $130,000/yr job to a $180,000/yr job. God only knows what he thought of me moving to a $233,000 job after that. Which reminds me, I was pretty sure that I had worked for Varian and talking to one of their retired employees I guess I designed and programmed a Gas Spectrometer for them.

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 12:43:38 PM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
> Lou Holtman <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 6:09:49 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> I guess that someone here decided that owning more than one piece of
> >> junk bike is a bad thing. Personally I believe that if you cannot
> >> collect the sorts of bikes you like that you are in serious financial
> >> problems. Looking at my Moser Leader AX, my Tomassini Fire, my Fondriest
> >> Status X, Aliverti or Land Shark gives me great joy but whoever found
> >> that disconcerting must be really poor not to be able to have a good
> >> bike and instead has to settle of an old bike that he can then convince
> >> himself is better than taking up what little space his poor lifestyle
> >> allows him. When you're on a bicycle tech group and are touting one old
> >> bicycle as good enough, perhaps you're in the wrong place and should be on
> >> rec.bicycles.oldtrash? This couldn't have been Flunky with his bragging
> >> about all of the good bikes he has. Do you suppose our critic has made
> >> the same comment about Flunky?
> >>
> >> My NCIS friend who has only one Tomassini for himself and another for
> >> his wife spends all of his spare time maintaining these bike to a fault
> >> and if he has a problem that would involve ordering a component, he
> >> simply has to put a ride off. I, on the other hand have been able to
> >> build and update bikes and still have a choice of bikes to ride while
> >> waiting for parts. Poor little critic must feel very badly about not
> >> being able to do that himself.
> >
> >
> > Tom, non of your bikes makes me jealous but I also don't criticize them or your choices.
> >
> > Lou
> >
> This! Each to their own, some folks do like to change stuff and so on.

Well, with an almost complete memory loss of the bikes, I had to more or less start at the beginning and work my way all the way around in a circle. But now that I am familiar with them all again I picked out the one's I really like.

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 4:32:59 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 12:43:38 PM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
> > funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 1:50:41 PM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > >> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 6:09:49 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >>> I guess that someone here decided that owning more than one piece of
> > >>> junk bike is a bad thing. Personally I believe that if you cannot
> > >>> collect the sorts of bikes you like that you are in serious financial
> > >>> problems. Looking at my Moser Leader AX, my Tomassini Fire, my
> > >>> Fondriest Status X, Aliverti or Land Shark gives me great joy but
> > >>> whoever found that disconcerting must be really poor not to be able to
> > >>> have a good bike and instead has to settle of an old bike that he can
> > >>> then convince himself is better than taking up what little space his
> > >>> poor lifestyle allows him. When you're on a bicycle tech group and are
> > >>> touting one old bicycle as good enough, perhaps you're in the wrong
> > >>> place and should be on rec.bicycles.oldtrash? This couldn't have been
> > >>> Flunky with his bragging about all of the good bikes he has. Do you
> > >>> suppose our critic has made the same comment about Flunky?
> > >>>
> > >>> My NCIS friend who has only one Tomassini for himself and another for
> > >>> his wife spends all of his spare time maintaining these bike to a fault
> > >>> and if he has a problem that would involve ordering a component, he
> > >>> simply has to put a ride off. I, on the other hand have been able to
> > >>> build and update bikes and still have a choice of bikes to ride while
> > >>> waiting for parts. Poor little critic must feel very badly about not
> > >>> being able to do that himself.
> > >> Tom, non of your bikes makes me jealous but I also don't criticize them or your choices.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I must have missed the post where someone wrote 'owning more than one
> > > piece of junk bike is a bad thing.'
> > >
> > >
> > This will be due to Frank commenting on his churn.
> When I got that email I should have known immediately. Poor Frank is unhappy about everything that anyone other than he does. He didn't like the idea of me moving from a $130,000/yr job to a $180,000/yr job. God only knows what he thought of me moving to a $233,000 job after that. Which reminds me, I was pretty sure that I had worked for Varian and talking to one of their retired employees I guess I designed and programmed a Gas Spectrometer for them.

There's a big difference between not liking that something happened and calling bullshit that it happened at all

On Thu, 4 May 2023 11:19:57 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 1:50:41?PM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 6:09:49?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > I guess that someone here decided that owning more than one piece of junk bike is a bad thing. Personally I believe that if you cannot collect the sorts of bikes you like that you are in serious financial problems. Looking at my Moser Leader AX, my Tomassini Fire, my Fondriest Status X, Aliverti or Land Shark gives me great joy but whoever found that disconcerting must be really poor not to be able to have a good bike and instead has to settle of an old bike that he can then convince himself is better than taking up what little space his poor lifestyle allows him. When you're on a bicycle tech group and are touting one old bicycle as good enough, perhaps you're in the wrong place and should be on rec.bicycles.oldtrash? This couldn't have been Flunky with his bragging about all of the good bikes he has. Do you suppose our critic has made the same comment about Flunky?
>> >
>> > My NCIS friend who has only one Tomassini for himself and another for his wife spends all of his spare time maintaining these bike to a fault and if he has a problem that would involve ordering a component, he simply has to put a ride off. I, on the other hand have been able to build and update bikes and still have a choice of bikes to ride while waiting for parts. Poor little critic must feel very badly about not being able to do that himself.
>> Tom, non of your bikes makes me jealous but I also don't criticize them or your choices.
>>
>
>I must have missed the post where someone wrote 'owning more than one piece of junk bike is a bad thing.'

But of course owning a bunch of old, junk, bikes that you don't know
how to fix, shows that you really are a cyclist.... Why, if you piled
them up on the front lawn people might come from miles around just to
admire your junk and you too could be known as "Junk Pile Tom".
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 4 May 2023 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 12:43:38?PM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
>> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 1:50:41?PM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 6:09:49?PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >>> I guess that someone here decided that owning more than one piece of
>> >>> junk bike is a bad thing. Personally I believe that if you cannot
>> >>> collect the sorts of bikes you like that you are in serious financial
>> >>> problems. Looking at my Moser Leader AX, my Tomassini Fire, my
>> >>> Fondriest Status X, Aliverti or Land Shark gives me great joy but
>> >>> whoever found that disconcerting must be really poor not to be able to
>> >>> have a good bike and instead has to settle of an old bike that he can
>> >>> then convince himself is better than taking up what little space his
>> >>> poor lifestyle allows him. When you're on a bicycle tech group and are
>> >>> touting one old bicycle as good enough, perhaps you're in the wrong
>> >>> place and should be on rec.bicycles.oldtrash? This couldn't have been
>> >>> Flunky with his bragging about all of the good bikes he has. Do you
>> >>> suppose our critic has made the same comment about Flunky?
>> >>>
>> >>> My NCIS friend who has only one Tomassini for himself and another for
>> >>> his wife spends all of his spare time maintaining these bike to a fault
>> >>> and if he has a problem that would involve ordering a component, he
>> >>> simply has to put a ride off. I, on the other hand have been able to
>> >>> build and update bikes and still have a choice of bikes to ride while
>> >>> waiting for parts. Poor little critic must feel very badly about not
>> >>> being able to do that himself.
>> >> Tom, non of your bikes makes me jealous but I also don't criticize them or your choices.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I must have missed the post where someone wrote 'owning more than one
>> > piece of junk bike is a bad thing.'
>> >
>> >
>> This will be due to Frank commenting on his churn.
>
>When I got that email I should have known immediately. Poor Frank is unhappy about everything that anyone other than he does. He didn't like the idea of me moving from a $130,000/yr job to a $180,000/yr job. God only knows what he thought of me moving to a $233,000 job after that. Which reminds me, I was pretty sure that I had worked for Varian and talking to one of their retired employees I guess I designed and programmed a Gas Spectrometer for them.

Gee, all that money and yet when he remarried he had, to use his
words, be careful so they wouldn't lose his new wife's social
security.

Can you imagine? A bloke making all that money (or perhaps all that
money that he Says he was making) and still worrying about social
security.

As Mark Twain once said, a good liar needs to have a really great
memory to keep track of all the lies he has told...

--
Cheers,

John B.

On 5/4/2023 4:32 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 12:43:38 PM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
>> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I must have missed the post where someone wrote 'owning more than one
>>> piece of junk bike is a bad thing.'
>>>
>>>
>> This will be due to Frank commenting on his churn.

And if Tom continues to post about his constant bike churning, I'll
probably continue to comment. The churning seems compulsive.

If Tom doesn't want it discussed, he shouldn't post about it. This is,
after all, a discussion group.

> When I got that email I should have known immediately.

You got no email about this. Quit pretending.

> Poor Frank is unhappy about everything that anyone other than he does.

That's nonsense, and has nothing to do with anything I've ever posted.

> He didn't like the idea of me moving from a $130,000/yr job to a $180,000/yr job. God only knows what he thought of me moving to a $233,000 job after that.

I don't care what sort of job you have. But I think most of your job and
salary claims are either mental delusion or fiction.

If you had made anywhere near the amount you claimed, you wouldn't be
living in a hellhole trying to save money on Chinese counterfeit parts.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thu, 4 May 2023 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>He didn't like the idea of me moving from a $130,000/yr job to a
>$180,000/yr job. God only knows what he thought of me moving to
>a $233,000 job after that.

Which jobs that appear on your online resume were those that paid so
much? If it's not on your resume, it didn't happen:
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
If it was your last two jobs, which ended in 2009 and 2014, the
$233,000 job would have been worth $327,811 and $297,072 today,
adjusted for inflation:
<https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/>

No company pays that much for an hourly "job" type person. If you had
been on salary and had a lofty company title, your "job" would be
called a "position" and would likely be reported as "compensation" and
"benefits" such as stock options and bonuses. If you're going to
pretend being an important employee, you should at least speak the
language.

>Which reminds me, I was pretty sure that I had worked for Varian
>and talking to one of their retired employees I guess I designed
>and programmed a Gas Spectrometer for them.

The original company was called Varian Associates:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varian_Associates>
They were bought by Agilent in 2010. There is also Varian Medical
Systems which was bought by Siemens Healthineers in 2021.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varian_Medical_Systems>

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 7:48:24 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 4 May 2023 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >He didn't like the idea of me moving from a $130,000/yr job to a
> >$180,000/yr job. God only knows what he thought of me moving to
> >a $233,000 job after that.
> Which jobs that appear on your online resume were those that paid so
> much? If it's not on your resume, it didn't happen:
> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
> If it was your last two jobs, which ended in 2009 and 2014, the
> $233,000 job would have been worth $327,811 and $297,072 today,
> adjusted for inflation:
> <https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/>
>
> No company pays that much for an hourly "job" type person. If you had
> been on salary and had a lofty company title, your "job" would be
> called a "position" and would likely be reported as "compensation" and
> "benefits" such as stock options and bonuses. If you're going to
> pretend being an important employee, you should at least speak the
> language.
> >Which reminds me, I was pretty sure that I had worked for Varian
> >and talking to one of their retired employees I guess I designed
> >and programmed a Gas Spectrometer for them.
> The original company was called Varian Associates:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varian_Associates>
> They were bought by Agilent in 2010. There is also Varian Medical
> Systems which was bought by Siemens Healthineers in 2021.
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varian_Medical_Systems>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

There was also a company called Varian Aerograph, part of Varian Associates, which was purchased by Eitel-McCullough ("EIMAC") in about 1965 because Varian Aerograph had a large vacuum glass envelope production facility in my home town of Walnut Creek, CA. The parents of many of my classmates worked for Varian Aerograph. EIMAC needed the Varian Aerograph factory in Walnut Creek because it had signed a big contract with the Dept. of Defense to manufacture glass envelope transmitting tubes and klystrons.

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 9:52:32 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 5/4/2023 4:32 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> > He didn't like the idea of me moving from a $130,000/yr job to a $180,000/yr job. God only knows what he thought of me moving to a $233,000 job after that.
> I don't care what sort of job you have. But I think most of your job and
> salary claims are either mental delusion or fiction.
>
> If you had made anywhere near the amount you claimed, you wouldn't be
> living in a hellhole trying to save money on Chinese counterfeit parts.

+1

On Fri, 5 May 2023 02:57:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 9:52:32?PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 5/4/2023 4:32 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>
>> > He didn't like the idea of me moving from a $130,000/yr job to a $180,000/yr job. God only knows what he thought of me moving to a $233,000 job after that.
>> I don't care what sort of job you have. But I think most of your job and
>> salary claims are either mental delusion or fiction.
>>
>> If you had made anywhere near the amount you claimed, you wouldn't be
>> living in a hellhole trying to save money on Chinese counterfeit parts.
>
>+1

The big problem with lying is that you have all those details to
remember.

Tommy tell us that he was making $233,000.

And, Tommy has also told us that he is still living in a house that
cost $70,000, that he complained when he remarried that he and his
wife had to be very careful or she would lose her Social Security and
even more revealing his recent complaints about the cost of groceries.
An old saying has it that "one hand washes the other" but, sad to say,
in Tommy's case, "one fact doesn't support the other".
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 6:49:59 AM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> On Fri, 5 May 2023 02:57:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 9:52:32?PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >> On 5/4/2023 4:32 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>
> >> > He didn't like the idea of me moving from a $130,000/yr job to a $180,000/yr job. God only knows what he thought of me moving to a $233,000 job after that.
> >> I don't care what sort of job you have. But I think most of your job and
> >> salary claims are either mental delusion or fiction.
> >>
> >> If you had made anywhere near the amount you claimed, you wouldn't be
> >> living in a hellhole trying to save money on Chinese counterfeit parts..
> >
> >+1
> The big problem with lying is that you have all those details to
> remember.
>
> Tommy tell us that he was making $233,000.
>
> And, Tommy has also told us that he is still living in a house that
> cost $70,000, that he complained when he remarried that he and his
> wife had to be very careful or she would lose her Social Security and
> even more revealing his recent complaints about the cost of groceries.
> An old saying has it that "one hand washes the other" but, sad to say,
> in Tommy's case, "one fact doesn't support the other".
> --

Then there was the recent comment that he had to 'wait until next month' to by some warmer cycling clothing because it was so expensive.

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 8:57:12 PM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 7:48:24 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 May 2023 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >He didn't like the idea of me moving from a $130,000/yr job to a
> > >$180,000/yr job. God only knows what he thought of me moving to
> > >a $233,000 job after that.
> > Which jobs that appear on your online resume were those that paid so
> > much? If it's not on your resume, it didn't happen:
> > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
> > If it was your last two jobs, which ended in 2009 and 2014, the
> > $233,000 job would have been worth $327,811 and $297,072 today,
> > adjusted for inflation:
> > <https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/>
> >
> > No company pays that much for an hourly "job" type person. If you had
> > been on salary and had a lofty company title, your "job" would be
> > called a "position" and would likely be reported as "compensation" and
> > "benefits" such as stock options and bonuses. If you're going to
> > pretend being an important employee, you should at least speak the
> > language.
> > >Which reminds me, I was pretty sure that I had worked for Varian
> > >and talking to one of their retired employees I guess I designed
> > >and programmed a Gas Spectrometer for them.
> > The original company was called Varian Associates:
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varian_Associates>
> > They were bought by Agilent in 2010. There is also Varian Medical
> > Systems which was bought by Siemens Healthineers in 2021.
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varian_Medical_Systems>
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> > PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> > Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
> There was also a company called Varian Aerograph, part of Varian Associates, which was purchased by Eitel-McCullough ("EIMAC") in about 1965 because Varian Aerograph had a large vacuum glass envelope production facility in my home town of Walnut Creek, CA. The parents of many of my classmates worked for Varian Aerograph. EIMAC needed the Varian Aerograph factory in Walnut Creek because it had signed a big contract with the Dept. of Defense to manufacture glass envelope transmitting tubes and klystrons.

Liebermann is absolutely a clown. He was so stupid he tried to make a career in analog electronics as the entire world was changing over to digital electronics. My pay numbers were from check stubs that were in my files and he claims it isn't possible. That is what happens when a fool has to believe himself an expert on anything.

I was making $233,000 a year and he is saying that "no one makes that much money per hour". That was a salary and I had to pay both halves of my social security out of that. I was the only one at that company that actually knew the entire electronics processes except for three technicians who knew how to do their jobs very well. I had to manage my boss. When they were stupid enough to fire me, they went out of business in a month. My boss at that company called me several times to go to work for him but that was when I was first recovering and I was afraid I couldn't do a job for him. When I was talked back into writing a program for an old friend (who received an Emmy for his design work on sound) I did it entirely for free because I couldn't remember anything. But once given the problem I tested the program that initial programmer had written found that I could write a C program that was more compact and faster and then discovered that my friend who was really an analog designer completely designed the digital portion of both boards incorrectly. While I could write around the problems in one of the boards, the other would have needed a redesign to correct for a missing interrupt.

Then we have Liebermann going on about who bought who. That was because Varian had a viable product line and I designed and programmed part of it and a guy I ride with remembered me. I remember designing and programming a gas spectrometer but not for whom. I also designed and programmed a liquid spectrometer which usually is used more often.

Liebermann was also arguing about climate change even after my knowing spectroscopy I could prove that CO2 has NO effect. It isn't as if this was a relavation since there was 4 times the CO2 in the atmosphere in the last Ice Age since frozen plants don't use CO2. When you know nothing at all about a subject why do you argue as if you do? This is Liebermann and there's nothing we can do to stop him making a fool out of himself 24 hours a day.

On Thu, 4 May 2023 20:57:09 -0700 (PDT), William Crowell
<retroguybilly@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 7:48:24?PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 May 2023 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> >Which reminds me, I was pretty sure that I had worked for Varian
>> >and talking to one of their retired employees I guess I designed
>> >and programmed a Gas Spectrometer for them.

>> The original company was called Varian Associates:
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varian_Associates>
>> They were bought by Agilent in 2010. There is also Varian Medical
>> Systems which was bought by Siemens Healthineers in 2021.
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varian_Medical_Systems>

>There was also a company called Varian Aerograph, part of Varian Associates, which was purchased by Eitel-McCullough ("EIMAC") in about 1965 because Varian Aerograph had a large vacuum glass envelope production facility in my home town of Walnut Creek, CA. The parents of many of my classmates worked for Varian Aerograph. EIMAC needed the Varian Aerograph factory in Walnut Creek because it had signed a big contract with the Dept. of Defense to manufacture glass envelope transmitting tubes and klystrons.

I remember them well but didn't know about their connection with
Varian. Thanks for the info.

I've been dabbling with ham radio since about 1960. Most of the high
power transmitting tubes used by hams were made by Eimac:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=eimac+power+tubes&tbm=isch>
I've never built a power amp that used Eimac tubes but have helped
others build and repair them. The amplifier sections were mostly
about metal fabrication and cooling. The high voltage power supplies
were where the problems tended to hide. I have an old Eimac 4CX250B
tube and socket somewhere in my mess. However, the 4CX250B was a
ceramic and not a glass tube.

Eimac transmitting tubes circa 1948:
<https://w5jgv.com/downloads/Eimac-1948.PDF>

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Fri, 5 May 2023 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 8:57:12?PM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 7:48:24?PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> > On Thu, 4 May 2023 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >He didn't like the idea of me moving from a $130,000/yr job to a
>> > >$180,000/yr job. God only knows what he thought of me moving to
>> > >a $233,000 job after that.

>> > Which jobs that appear on your online resume were those that paid so
>> > much? If it's not on your resume, it didn't happen:
>> > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
>> > If it was your last two jobs, which ended in 2009 and 2014, the
>> > $233,000 job would have been worth $327,811 and $297,072 today,
>> > adjusted for inflation:
>> > <https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/>
>> >
>> > No company pays that much for an hourly "job" type person. If you had
>> > been on salary and had a lofty company title, your "job" would be
>> > called a "position" and would likely be reported as "compensation" and
>> > "benefits" such as stock options and bonuses. If you're going to
>> > pretend being an important employee, you should at least speak the
>> > language.

>I was making $233,000 a year...

Thank you for ignoring everything I wrote. To refresh your failing
memory, I asked you at which company listed in your online resume did
you work for such a high salary? Also, what was your position or job
title?
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
If the company is not in your resume, you didn't work for them.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Fri, 5 May 2023 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 8:57:12?PM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 7:48:24?PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> > On Thu, 4 May 2023 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >He didn't like the idea of me moving from a $130,000/yr job to a
>> > >$180,000/yr job. God only knows what he thought of me moving to
>> > >a $233,000 job after that.
>> > Which jobs that appear on your online resume were those that paid so
>> > much? If it's not on your resume, it didn't happen:
>> > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
>> > If it was your last two jobs, which ended in 2009 and 2014, the
>> > $233,000 job would have been worth $327,811 and $297,072 today,
>> > adjusted for inflation:
>> > <https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/>
>> >
>> > No company pays that much for an hourly "job" type person. If you had
>> > been on salary and had a lofty company title, your "job" would be
>> > called a "position" and would likely be reported as "compensation" and
>> > "benefits" such as stock options and bonuses. If you're going to
>> > pretend being an important employee, you should at least speak the
>> > language.
>> > >Which reminds me, I was pretty sure that I had worked for Varian
>> > >and talking to one of their retired employees I guess I designed
>> > >and programmed a Gas Spectrometer for them.
>> > The original company was called Varian Associates:
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varian_Associates>
>> > They were bought by Agilent in 2010. There is also Varian Medical
>> > Systems which was bought by Siemens Healthineers in 2021.
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varian_Medical_Systems>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
>> > PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
>> > Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
>> > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>> There was also a company called Varian Aerograph, part of Varian Associates, which was purchased by Eitel-McCullough ("EIMAC") in about 1965 because Varian Aerograph had a large vacuum glass envelope production facility in my home town of Walnut Creek, CA. The parents of many of my classmates worked for Varian Aerograph. EIMAC needed the Varian Aerograph factory in Walnut Creek because it had signed a big contract with the Dept. of Defense to manufacture glass envelope transmitting tubes and klystrons.
>
>Liebermann is absolutely a clown. He was so stupid he tried to make a career in analog electronics as the entire world was changing over to digital electronics. My pay numbers were from check stubs that were in my files and he claims it isn't possible. That is what happens when a fool has to believe himself an expert on anything.
>
>I was making $233,000 a year and he is saying that "no one makes that much money per hour". That was a salary and I had to pay both halves of my social security out of that. I was the only one at that company that actually knew the entire electronics processes except for three technicians who knew how to do their jobs very well. I had to manage my boss. When they were stupid enough to fire me, they went out of business in a month. My boss at that company called me several times to go to work for him but that was when I was first recovering and I was afraid I couldn't do a job for him. When I was talked back into writing a program for an old friend (who received an Emmy for his design work on sound) I did it entirely for free because I couldn't remember anything. But once given the problem I tested the program that initial programmer had written found that I could write a C program that was more compact and faster and then discovered that my friend who was really an analog designer
>completely designed the digital portion of both boards incorrectly. While I could write around the problems in one of the boards, the other would have needed a redesign to correct for a missing interrupt.
>
>Then we have Liebermann going on about who bought who. That was because Varian had a viable product line and I designed and programmed part of it and a guy I ride with remembered me. I remember designing and programming a gas spectrometer but not for whom. I also designed and programmed a liquid spectrometer which usually is used more often.
>
>Liebermann was also arguing about climate change even after my knowing spectroscopy I could prove that CO2 has NO effect. It isn't as if this was a relavation since there was 4 times the CO2 in the atmosphere in the last Ice Age since frozen plants don't use CO2. When you know nothing at all about a subject why do you argue as if you do? This is Liebermann and there's nothing we can do to stop him making a fool out of himself 24 hours a day.

"was 4 times the CO2 in the atmosphere in the last Ice Age"???

Actually real live scientists (as opposed to liars) tell us that
atmospheric CO2 was actually lower "ice ages".

"In the 1970s, scientists discovered that the concentration of the
atmospheric greenhouse gas carbon dioxide (CO2) was about 30% lower
during the ice ages."
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/12/201210145757.htm
During ice ages, CO2 levels were around 200 parts per million (ppm),
and during the warmer interglacial periods, they hovered around 280
ppm
https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/graphic-the-relentless-rise-of-carbon-dioxide/

A hint to the wise - "if you want to tell lies do try to understand
the subject that you are talking about"

A question here! "Doesn't it embarrass you, even a tiny bit, to be
caught in so many lies, so frequently"?

--
Cheers,

John B.

On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 12:17:08 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 8:57:12 PM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 7:48:24 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > > On Thu, 4 May 2023 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >He didn't like the idea of me moving from a $130,000/yr job to a
> > > >$180,000/yr job. God only knows what he thought of me moving to
> > > >a $233,000 job after that.
> > > Which jobs that appear on your online resume were those that paid so
> > > much? If it's not on your resume, it didn't happen:
> > > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
> > > If it was your last two jobs, which ended in 2009 and 2014, the
> > > $233,000 job would have been worth $327,811 and $297,072 today,
> > > adjusted for inflation:
> > > <https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/>
> > >
> > > No company pays that much for an hourly "job" type person. If you had
> > > been on salary and had a lofty company title, your "job" would be
> > > called a "position" and would likely be reported as "compensation" and
> > > "benefits" such as stock options and bonuses. If you're going to
> > > pretend being an important employee, you should at least speak the
> > > language.
> > > >Which reminds me, I was pretty sure that I had worked for Varian
> > > >and talking to one of their retired employees I guess I designed
> > > >and programmed a Gas Spectrometer for them.
> > > The original company was called Varian Associates:
> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varian_Associates>
> > > They were bought by Agilent in 2010. There is also Varian Medical
> > > Systems which was bought by Siemens Healthineers in 2021.
> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varian_Medical_Systems>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> > > PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> > > Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> > > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
> > There was also a company called Varian Aerograph, part of Varian Associates, which was purchased by Eitel-McCullough ("EIMAC") in about 1965 because Varian Aerograph had a large vacuum glass envelope production facility in my home town of Walnut Creek, CA. The parents of many of my classmates worked for Varian Aerograph. EIMAC needed the Varian Aerograph factory in Walnut Creek because it had signed a big contract with the Dept. of Defense to manufacture glass envelope transmitting tubes and klystrons.
>
> Liebermann is absolutely a clown. He was so stupid he tried to make a career in analog electronics as the entire world was changing over to digital electronics.

Right... because there's no need for analog electronics anymore <snicker>

> My pay numbers were from check stubs that were in my files and he claims it isn't possible. That is what happens when a fool has to believe himself an expert on anything.
>
> I was making $233,000 a year and he is saying that "no one makes that much money per hour".

Gee, too bad you quoted what you _think_ he wrote rather than what he _actually_ wrote.

> That was a salary and I had to pay both halves of my social security out of that.

um...had to pay "both halves of social security"? wtf? Were you an actual employee of the company or not? If you were on their payroll they paid half - that's the law. Besides that you didn't pay it on your entire income, you only pay SSI up to a certain amount - currently that's $162K, so it was substantially less than that when you were allegedly making $233K. Of course, we know you were never making $233K so it's pretty much a moot point.

> I was the only one at that company that actually knew the entire electronics processes except for three technicians who knew how to do their jobs very well.

My guess is that you were one of those three technicians, and much like the dishwasher at an applebees, you had the delusion you could run the company better than the CEO.

> I had to manage my boss.

My guess is that your attempts to "manage your boss" is what got you fired.

> When they were stupid enough to fire me, they went out of business in a month.

lol....tommy thinks firing one employee drives a company out of business in one month.

> My boss at that company called me several times to go to work for him but that was when I was first recovering and I was afraid I couldn't do a job for him. When I was talked back into writing a program for an old friend (who received an Emmy for his design work on sound) I did it entirely for free because I couldn't remember anything. But once given the problem I tested the program that initial programmer had written found that I could write a C program that was more compact and faster and then discovered that my friend who was really an analog designer completely designed the digital portion of both boards incorrectly.

lol...that was the program that you wrote part of in assembly and the rest in C....correct?

> While I could write around the problems in one of the boards, the other would have needed a redesign to correct for a missing interrupt.

Some engineer....I guess tommy's never heard of "rework".

>
> Then we have Liebermann going on about who bought who. That was because Varian had a viable product line and I designed and programmed part of it and a guy I ride with remembered me. I remember designing and programming a gas spectrometer but not for whom. I also designed and programmed a liquid spectrometer which usually is used more often.

You claimed the company went out of business a month after they fired you. Jeff showed it was purchased by Agilent decades after you worked there.

>
> Liebermann was also arguing about climate change even after my knowing spectroscopy I could prove that CO2 has NO effect.

No, you never proved that. No one has proven that, it isn't true.

> It isn't as if this was a relavation since there was 4 times the CO2 in the atmosphere in the last Ice Age since frozen plants don't use CO2.

No, there wasn't

https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/graphic-the-relentless-rise-of-carbon-dioxide/

Should we trust you, or NASA?

> When you know nothing at all about a subject why do you argue as if you do?

A strong combination of arrogance and hubris - Who does that remind us of?

> This is Liebermann and there's nothing we can do to stop him making a fool out of himself 24 hours a day.

lol...It ain't Jeff we're laughing at, sparky.....

On 5/5/2023 5:35 PM, John B. wrote:

<snip>

> A question here! "Doesn't it embarrass you, even a tiny bit, to be
> caught in so many lies, so frequently"?

Like the right-wing talk show hosts, and 45, the lies get them the
attention that they crave. They are not embarrassed at getting caught lying.

--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

On Fri, 12 May 2023 11:13:11 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 5/5/2023 5:35 PM, John B. wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> A question here! "Doesn't it embarrass you, even a tiny bit, to be
>> caught in so many lies, so frequently"?
>
>Like the right-wing talk show hosts, and 45, the lies get them the
>attention that they crave. They are not embarrassed at getting caught lying.

And just think... if someone actually believed even one of his tall
tales? Oh the prestige! "See Mommy, they believed me!
--
Cheers,

John B.