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 by: StarDust - Mon, 9 May 2022 20:54 UTC

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 by: Quadibloc - Wed, 11 May 2022 06:50 UTC

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 11:39:45 PM UTC-6, RichA wrote:

> I'm still amazed there was enough light from the sun out there to get those images.

That's a good question.

Light follows the inverse-square law; we know that there's enough sunlight illuminating
Pluto that we can see Pluto from Earth in a good telescope.

Pluto orbits the Sun at an average distance of 39 astronomical units. But it can get closer
to the Sun than Neptune at 30 astronomical units during part of its orbit.

In any case, 39 squared is 1,521. So on Pluto, the light is only 1/1500 what we get
on Earth.

On Earth, on a bright sunny day at the beach, if you have a camera loaded with
film at ASA 25, and have your lens set at f/16, an exposure of 1/60 of a second
should be more than adequate. At least those were the figures I had from
memory, although looking at images of old exposure calculators seems to imply
that these settings would result in a gross over-exposure, and I need to stop down
about three stops.

If you change the film to ASA 1000 - and they had film that sensitive, just before
people stopped using the stuff, you have already multiplied your sensitivity
to light by 40. Change the lens setting to f/1.4, and you have multiplied your
sensitivity to light by 128. We can change that to 64 by only going to f/2, or
to 32 by going to f/2.8.

So the fact that the human eye works on a logarithmic scale - and so our
photographic technology had to be adapted to the large range of conditions
under which we're able to see - means that, yes, the light is adequate on Pluto
to take pictures.

John Savard

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 by: StarDust - Wed, 11 May 2022 18:16 UTC

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:39:45 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> On Monday, 9 May 2022 at 16:54:34 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/ul6v1k/plutos_mountains_frozen_plains_and_foggy_hazes/?%24deep_link=true&correlation_id=17fa7b4e-83d7-4236-916f-049036f8e68f&post_fullname=t3_ul6v1k&post_index=1&ref=email_digest&ref_campaign=email_digest&ref_source=email&utm_content=post_title&%243p=e_as&_branch_match_id=824428571573211864&utm_medium=Email%20Amazon%20SES&_branch_referrer=H4sIAAAAAAAAA22Q3WrDMAyFnya7S9PGIWkHpQzGXkNosZya%2Bg9bXrc%2B%2FZR2vRvY%2BOgT50j4zJzKa9dl0tryBlPaOBsunUqnph9UOhJgeREZs11sQAc1u%2BN5dTXqrek%2F5Fyv182ff45eQJZbEs4krxBPgYvI6sav3UVEcpVjAR9rYLShgMnxRgGSu1cYNJi4LD9wxhutzkbJnEETJVi3a9Q75yrp4xxzJodsYwCrhe8mg9PnQO1e6akdejW2h91o2u1w2KrR7GncG%2FGlWBhMdS6gpzVOwXO7R88GTd9rnoBMRhR5tA60XajwA8KMPqFdwv%2FdEmue6dkTWNnDHAPLdwi9j2HLjn4BKmMlsYQBAAA%3D
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> I'm still amazed there was enough light from the sun out there to get those images.

Sat had a big flash light?
I guess?

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 by: Chris L Peterson - Wed, 11 May 2022 18:26 UTC

On Tue, 10 May 2022 23:50:25 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 11:39:45 PM UTC-6, RichA wrote:
>
>> I'm still amazed there was enough light from the sun out there to get those images.
>
>That's a good question.
>
>Light follows the inverse-square law; we know that there's enough sunlight illuminating
>Pluto that we can see Pluto from Earth in a good telescope.
>
>Pluto orbits the Sun at an average distance of 39 astronomical units. But it can get closer
>to the Sun than Neptune at 30 astronomical units during part of its orbit.
>
>In any case, 39 squared is 1,521. So on Pluto, the light is only 1/1500 what we get
>on Earth.
>
>On Earth, on a bright sunny day at the beach, if you have a camera loaded with
>film at ASA 25, and have your lens set at f/16, an exposure of 1/60 of a second
>should be more than adequate. At least those were the figures I had from
>memory, although looking at images of old exposure calculators seems to imply
>that these settings would result in a gross over-exposure, and I need to stop down
>about three stops.
>
>If you change the film to ASA 1000 - and they had film that sensitive, just before
>people stopped using the stuff, you have already multiplied your sensitivity
>to light by 40. Change the lens setting to f/1.4, and you have multiplied your
>sensitivity to light by 128. We can change that to 64 by only going to f/2, or
>to 32 by going to f/2.8.
>
>So the fact that the human eye works on a logarithmic scale - and so our
>photographic technology had to be adapted to the large range of conditions
>under which we're able to see - means that, yes, the light is adequate on Pluto
>to take pictures.

Another way of looking at it is simple illuminance, or lumens per
square meter (lux).

A sunlit landscape on Earth is nominally 75,000 lux. So we're looking
at something like 50 lux at Pluto. 50 lux is what typical household
room lighting provides at night. Which is plenty bright enough for any
modern electronic camera to capture even with a pretty short exposure.

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 by: fred k. engels® - Fri, 13 May 2022 22:16 UTC

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