FISA: The FBI & 278k Illegal Searches
https://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2023/05/21/fisa-the-fbi-and-278k-illegal-searches-n2623515
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This is our intimidation for political purposes and illegal. Someone -- for instance Christopher Wray -- should go to jail for the lies to the FISA Court and for the 278,000 illegal searches.
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This is the mechanism of a police state uncovered. Imagine another 80,000 armed IRS inspectors targeted at the same people the FBI persecuted and the resulting chaos.
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Andre Jute
"Show me the man, and I'll show you his crime." -- Lavrenti Beria.
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On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 5:09:00 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> FISA: The FBI & 278k Illegal Searches
> https://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2023/05/21/fisa-the-fbi-and-278k-illegal-searches-n2623515
> >
> This is our intimidation for political purposes and illegal. Someone -- for instance Christopher Wray -- should go to jail for the lies to the FISA Court and for the 278,000 illegal searches.
> >
> This is the mechanism of a police state uncovered. Imagine another 80,000 armed IRS inspectors targeted at the same people the FBI persecuted and the resulting chaos.
> >
> Andre Jute
> "Show me the man, and I'll show you his crime." -- Lavrenti Beria.
> >

The IRS agents are clear and present objects of intimidation. The FBI has been doing things so illegal for so long that they are now unforgivable and should be shut completely down.

On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 2:09:13 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 5:09:00 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > FISA: The FBI & 278k Illegal Searches
> > https://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2023/05/21/fisa-the-fbi-and-278k-illegal-searches-n2623515
> > >
> > This is our intimidation for political purposes and illegal. Someone -- for instance Christopher Wray -- should go to jail for the lies to the FISA Court and for the 278,000 illegal searches.
> > >
> > This is the mechanism of a police state uncovered. Imagine another 80,000 armed IRS inspectors targeted at the same people the FBI persecuted and the resulting chaos.
> > >
> > Andre Jute
> > "Show me the man, and I'll show you his crime." -- Lavrenti Beria.
> > >
> The IRS agents are clear and present objects of intimidation. The FBI has been doing things so illegal for so long that they are now unforgivable and should be shut completely down.
>
Difficult thing in a democracy to shut down a bureaucracy, especially if one party believes the bureaucrats are on their side and enthusiastically interfering with the other side to prevent them governing even when duly elected. Nor are bureaucracies capable of reforming themselves from within; there must be a powerful external impulse. -- AJ
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On 5/21/2023 11:38 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 2:09:13 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 5:09:00 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
>>> FISA: The FBI & 278k Illegal Searches
>>> https://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2023/05/21/fisa-the-fbi-and-278k-illegal-searches-n2623515
>>>>
>>> This is our intimidation for political purposes and illegal. Someone -- for instance Christopher Wray -- should go to jail for the lies to the FISA Court and for the 278,000 illegal searches.
>>>>
>>> This is the mechanism of a police state uncovered. Imagine another 80,000 armed IRS inspectors targeted at the same people the FBI persecuted and the resulting chaos.
>>>>
>>> Andre Jute
>>> "Show me the man, and I'll show you his crime." -- Lavrenti Beria.
>>>>
>> The IRS agents are clear and present objects of intimidation. The FBI has been doing things so illegal for so long that they are now unforgivable and should be shut completely down.
>>
> Difficult thing in a democracy to shut down a bureaucracy, especially if one party believes the bureaucrats are on their side and enthusiastically interfering with the other side to prevent them governing even when duly elected. Nor are bureaucracies capable of reforming themselves from within; there must be a powerful external impulse. -- AJ
>>

Ronald Reagan noted that a government program is the closest
thing we know to perpetual life.

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Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 6:58:16 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> On 5/21/2023 11:38 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 2:09:13 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 5:09:00 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> >>> FISA: The FBI & 278k Illegal Searches
> >>> https://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2023/05/21/fisa-the-fbi-and-278k-illegal-searches-n2623515
> >>>>
> >>> This is our intimidation for political purposes and illegal. Someone -- for instance Christopher Wray -- should go to jail for the lies to the FISA Court and for the 278,000 illegal searches.
> >>>>
> >>> This is the mechanism of a police state uncovered. Imagine another 80,000 armed IRS inspectors targeted at the same people the FBI persecuted and the resulting chaos.
> >>>>
> >>> Andre Jute
> >>> "Show me the man, and I'll show you his crime." -- Lavrenti Beria.
> >>>>
> >> The IRS agents are clear and present objects of intimidation. The FBI has been doing things so illegal for so long that they are now unforgivable and should be shut completely down.
> >>
> > Difficult thing in a democracy to shut down a bureaucracy, especially if one party believes the bureaucrats are on their side and enthusiastically interfering with the other side to prevent them governing even when duly elected. Nor are bureaucracies capable of reforming themselves from within; there must be a powerful external impulse. -- AJ
> >>
> Ronald Reagan noted that a government program is the closest
> thing we know to perpetual life.

Well, the country definitely needs AN FBI but the one that is installed has been so politicized (don't forget that there are nearly 800 illegally held prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. Some of these are foreign nationals and indeed terrorists but they are treated in a manner that would put the entire staff in prison themselves if this was a prison on American soil) that they are no longer of any use. The Russian collusion case against Trump is the perfect example when exactly the opposite occurred - Hillary colluded with Russians in order to build a false case against Trump. And why hasn't Hunter been charged? Where is the FBI case there?

So a new FBI with sharply delineated powers has to rebuilt with serious penalties for the SLIGHTEST politicization or investigation of ANY Congress people without due legal grounds. Comey has to be served up on a platter for his flipping the American people the bird. And the stinking abuse of the FISA system under Wray's supervision has to be charged against him and he has to be immediately charged for millions of felonies.

The FISA courts must be immediately disbanded and normal legal processes used for FBI spying on citizens. Every FBI officer responsible for those illegal activities on American citizens should themselves be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. These actions are so far beyond the realm that anyone that has taken part in them must be charged with High Treason up to and including Biden. These actions have turned the US into nothing more than a Fascistic state and that is aiding and abetting every one of our enemies to have the entire downfall of our Constitutional Republic.

On Mon, 22 May 2023 07:50:24 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 6:58:16?AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 5/21/2023 11:38 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
>> > On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 2:09:13 AM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >> On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 5:09:00 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
>> >>> FISA: The FBI & 278k Illegal Searches
>> >>> https://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2023/05/21/fisa-the-fbi-and-278k-illegal-searches-n2623515
>> >>>>
>> >>> This is our intimidation for political purposes and illegal. Someone -- for instance Christopher Wray -- should go to jail for the lies to the FISA Court and for the 278,000 illegal searches.
>> >>>>
>> >>> This is the mechanism of a police state uncovered. Imagine another 80,000 armed IRS inspectors targeted at the same people the FBI persecuted and the resulting chaos.
>> >>>>
>> >>> Andre Jute
>> >>> "Show me the man, and I'll show you his crime." -- Lavrenti Beria.
>> >>>>
>> >> The IRS agents are clear and present objects of intimidation. The FBI has been doing things so illegal for so long that they are now unforgivable and should be shut completely down.
>> >>
>> > Difficult thing in a democracy to shut down a bureaucracy, especially if one party believes the bureaucrats are on their side and enthusiastically interfering with the other side to prevent them governing even when duly elected. Nor are bureaucracies capable of reforming themselves from within; there must be a powerful external impulse. -- AJ
>> >>
>> Ronald Reagan noted that a government program is the closest
>> thing we know to perpetual life.
>
>Well, the country definitely needs AN FBI but the one that is installed has been so politicized (don't forget that there are nearly 800 illegally held prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. Some of these are foreign nationals and indeed terrorists but they are treated in a manner that would put the entire staff in prison themselves if this was a prison on American soil) that they are no longer of any use. The Russian collusion case against Trump is the perfect example when exactly the opposite occurred - Hillary colluded with Russians in order to build a false case against Trump. And why hasn't Hunter been charged? Where is the FBI case there?

An interesting statement abut Guantanamo. Are you saying that people
who are directly or indirectly responsible the most terrifying act of
terror that ever occurred in the U.S. should be treated with loving
tenderness?

>So a new FBI with sharply delineated powers has to rebuilt with serious penalties for the SLIGHTEST politicization or investigation of ANY Congress people without due legal grounds. Comey has to be served up on a platter for his flipping the American people the bird. And the stinking abuse of the FISA system under Wray's supervision has to be charged against him and he has to be immediately charged for millions of felonies.

Ah... you mean that if elected to congress an individual is free to
commit any crime one wishes?
But after all, elected federal officials have been charged and
convicted of crimes since 1798 and if you include State Officials the
list gets bigger. If you want to include Sex Scandals it goes back to
1797.

>The FISA courts must be immediately disbanded and normal legal processes used for FBI spying on citizens. Every FBI officer responsible for those illegal activities on American citizens should themselves be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. These actions are so far beyond the realm that anyone that has taken part in them must be charged with High Treason up to and including Biden. These actions have turned the US into nothing more than a Fascistic state and that is aiding and abetting every one of our enemies to have the entire downfall of our Constitutional Republic.

Why shouldn't the FBI "spy on citizens"? Do you mean that Citizens
don't commit crimes?
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Cheers,

John B.