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* WARNING: Bicycle Content! You're on, Karen in NY.Andre Jute
`* Re: WARNING: Bicycle Content! You're on, Karen in NY.Tom Kunich
 `- Re: WARNING: Bicycle Content! You're on, Karen in NY.Andre Jute

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Subject: WARNING: Bicycle Content! You're on, Karen in NY.
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 by: Andre Jute - Tue, 23 May 2023 01:03 UTC

https://townhall.com/videos/2023/05/22/how-mainstream-media-outlets-lied-about-citi-bike-karen-n8309
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Andre Jute
And here I was naive enough to believe that at least the Jackass Party is in favour of bicycles....
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Subject: Re: WARNING: Bicycle Content! You're on, Karen in NY.
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 by: Tom Kunich - Tue, 23 May 2023 14:30 UTC

On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 6:03:15 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> https://townhall.com/videos/2023/05/22/how-mainstream-media-outlets-lied-about-citi-bike-karen-n8309
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> Andre Jute
> And here I was naive enough to believe that at least the Jackass Party is in favour of bicycles....
> >
Law suits can be very effective but they take a long time. Suing media outlets despite their corrections is a major step in the right direction.

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Subject: Re: WARNING: Bicycle Content! You're on, Karen in NY.
From: fiult...@yahoo.com (Andre Jute)
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 by: Andre Jute - Thu, 25 May 2023 01:21 UTC

On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 3:30:46 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 6:03:15 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > https://townhall.com/videos/2023/05/22/how-mainstream-media-outlets-lied-about-citi-bike-karen-n8309
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> > Andre Jute
> > And here I was naive enough to believe that at least the Jackass Party is in favour of bicycles....
> > >
> Law suits can be very effective but they take a long time. Suing media outlets despite their corrections is a major step in the right direction.
>
The problem with American libel laws is the phrase, "absent malice". Basically, it allows the media to say anything about anyone that they want to invent, as long as the libelled party cannot prove that one of the writers bears him/her/it some malice. In civilised countries people who know about defamation (slander and libel) just shake their heads in wonder at what the arrogant, invasive, impertinent American media can say about people without being severely punished for it. For instance, in England, even truth in a libel is no defence, unless specially so claimed, in which case failure of the defence makes the libeller responsible for the libelled's legal costs as well as the damages. In France libel falls under ferocious protection of privacy laws, and even a defence that the public has a right to know about the Prime Minister's mistress is no defence.
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Andre Jute
Melania Trump collected 3.5m US dollars and a grovelling apology from the Daily Mail for libelling her -- in London.
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