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* Waiting for July 12 will be hardQuadibloc
+- Re: Waiting for July 12 will be hardMichael F. Stemper
+- Re: Waiting for July 12 will be hardChris L Peterson
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Subject: Waiting for July 12 will be hard
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 by: Quadibloc - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 07:41 UTC

This recent news story
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/06/nasa-teases-extraordinary-images-captured-by-its-webb-telescope/
notes that
- the James Webb Space Telescope has captured its first science images;
- these will not be released until July 12
- astronomers who have seen them have been brought to tears by how much better they are compared to anything we have had before

So some exciting news is coming up.

John Savard

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 by: Michael F. Stemper - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 14:16 UTC

On 01/07/2022 02.41, Quadibloc wrote:
> This recent news story
> https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/06/nasa-teases-extraordinary-images-captured-by-its-webb-telescope/
> notes that
> - the James Webb Space Telescope has captured its first science images;
> - these will not be released until July 12
> - astronomers who have seen them have been brought to tears by how much better they are compared to anything we have had before
>
> So some exciting news is coming up.

Dr. Becky (Rebecca Smethurst) has some thoughts on it:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndU4-xUiTps>

--
Michael F. Stemper
Exodus 22:21

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 by: Chris L Peterson - Mon, 4 Jul 2022 00:05 UTC

On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Friday, 1 July 2022 at 03:41:15 UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
>> This recent news story
>> https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/06/nasa-teases-extraordinary-images-captured-by-its-webb-telescope/
>> notes that
>> - the James Webb Space Telescope has captured its first science images;
>> - these will not be released until July 12
>> - astronomers who have seen them have been brought to tears by how much better they are compared to anything we have had before
>>
>> So some exciting news is coming up.
>>
>> John Savard
>
>I'm wondering what colour? The images are IR right?

Presumably the false color palette they choose will depend on the
number of channels they're presenting. Or in the case of a single
channel, probably the "heat" pseudocolor palette they've used for all
the test shots they released.

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 by: Quadibloc - Mon, 4 Jul 2022 00:13 UTC

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 2:44:45 PM UTC-6, RichA wrote:

> I'm wondering what colour? The images are IR right?

Yes. But the images will be given false color, so we will be able to see
them with our own eyes.

Out of curiosity, given that Hubble images are usually shown, not in
natural colors, but in the "Hubble palette", with R, G, and B each given
to particular major spectral lines, I checked to see if the same ions
responsible for those lines also had lines in the infrared, so that one
could make Hubble palette-equivalent images with the Web.

I think I found that there were infrared lines in two of the three cases,
but I could have been mistaken, as my search had been cursory.

John Savard

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On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 12:41:15 AM UTC-7, Quadibloc wrote:
> This recent news story
> https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/06/nasa-teases-extraordinary-images-captured-by-its-webb-telescope/
> notes that
> - the James Webb Space Telescope has captured its first science images;
> - these will not be released until July 12
> - astronomers who have seen them have been brought to tears by how much better they are compared to anything we have had before
>
> So some exciting news is coming up.
>
> John Savard

All ready seen one!
https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/space-girl-arcanico-smith.jpg

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 by: StarDust - Mon, 4 Jul 2022 03:36 UTC

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 8:32:11 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 12:41:15 AM UTC-7, Quadibloc wrote:
> > This recent news story
> > https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/06/nasa-teases-extraordinary-images-captured-by-its-webb-telescope/
> > notes that
> > - the James Webb Space Telescope has captured its first science images;
> > - these will not be released until July 12
> > - astronomers who have seen them have been brought to tears by how much better they are compared to anything we have had before
> >
> > So some exciting news is coming up.
> >
> > John Savard
> All ready seen one!
> https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/space-girl-arcanico-smith.jpg

Birth of the universe!
https://static.parade.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/star-baby-names.jpg

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On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 15:38:44 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sunday, 3 July 2022 at 20:13:14 UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 2:44:45 PM UTC-6, RichA wrote:
>>
>> > I'm wondering what colour? The images are IR right?
>> Yes. But the images will be given false color, so we will be able to see
>> them with our own eyes.
>
>I'm fine with black and white representations of the IR. I don't need a crayola sketch.

The most important instruments will be collecting multiband data. That
can't be reasonably displayed in black and white. So for this we'll
see various false color palettes used. Most commonly, I imagine, ones
where the wavelength of the mapped colors corresponds to those of the
source data (that is, red for the longest wavelengths, blue for the
shortest).

Even the single band data is better displayed with a pseudocolor
palette, because both in terms of our eyes and of our display devices
they allow us to see a greater intensity range than we can manage with
grayscale.

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