On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 15:13:59 -0800 (PST), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

>jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> >=====================================
>> >
>> >> >** Shame you did not notice the duality before this.
>> >> >
>> >> Don't be absurd.
>> >
>> >** Not one bit absurd.
>> >
>> > You have always * insisted *that people must post only about their own designs here.
>>
>> Absurd again.
>
>** Complete fact - you are blatantly lying.
>
>> I have never insisted anything like that.
>
>** YOU have CONSTANTLY insisted on it :
>
>" ... post one of *your* designs so we can all criticise it ..."
>
> Not as a polite invitation - but a thinly disguised *threat*.

Ot's an invitation to a sporting event, but only to people who know
how to play this game.

>
>
>> I'm always happy to assist decent amateurs to understand things.
>
>** Yawnnnnnnnnn.......
>
> A massive, self aggrandising straw man fallacy.
>
> Wot a complete asshole you are.
>
>
>..... Phil
>
>
>

There is a fairly common syndrome, an electronics tech who can't
design and who thinks electronic design is magic, and hates the
magicians.

Your enthusiasm for finding design defects fits right in. It shows, to
you, that EEs are impractical equation-slinging airheads. When I
worked in Silicon Valley, the cultural differences were stark and
often funny. Engineers drove sports cars; techs drove pickups.
Engineers ate at restaurants, techs at strip clubs. Tribes.

I don't think that a good tech is dumb or anything; I respect her
skills. We can work together and create products. I want my techs to
consider that a problem could be a design defect, and come talk to us
about it. We *don't* want a test tech to, for example, replace an
opamp four times until the thing works. Finding bugs can be a friendly
rivalry, a sport.

We have a folder on a server, J:\NEXT. Every product has a folder and
a file like PxxxAtoB.txt with other docs as needed. Anyone in the
company can add notes and suggestions for the next rev, and the test
people do roughly half.

The test people participate in new product design reviews too. They
always want more test points.

--

Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still;
but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
always most valuable when he had lost it.

On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 9:14:47 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 15:13:59 -0800 (PST), Phil Allison
> <palli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >> >=====================================
> >> >
> >> >> >** Shame you did not notice the duality before this.
> >> >> >
> >> >> Don't be absurd.
> >> >
> >> >** Not one bit absurd.
> >> >
> >> > You have always * insisted *that people must post only about their own designs here.
> >>
> >> Absurd again.
> >
> >** Complete fact - you are blatantly lying.
> >
> >> I have never insisted anything like that.
> >
> >** YOU have CONSTANTLY insisted on it :
> >
> >" ... post one of *your* designs so we can all criticise it ..."
> >
> > Not as a polite invitation - but a thinly disguised *threat*.
> Ot's an invitation to a sporting event, but only to people who know
> how to play this game.

Lol, we all know the real sport game is a blood lust game as invoked below.

> >> I'm always happy to assist decent amateurs to understand things.
> >
> >** Yawnnnnnnnnn.......
> >
> > A massive, self aggrandising straw man fallacy.

Let the s.e.d games begin!

> > Wot a complete asshole you are.
> >
> >
> >..... Phil
> >
> >
> >
> There is a fairly common syndrome, an electronics tech who can't
> design and who thinks electronic design is magic, and hates the
> magicians.

Nice double move, insulting the opponent and giving himself a boost by referring to himself as a "magician". A solid opening move. +2 Larkin

> Your enthusiasm for finding design defects fits right in. It shows, to
> you, that EEs are impractical equation-slinging airheads. When I
> worked in Silicon Valley, the cultural differences were stark and
> often funny. Engineers drove sports cars; techs drove pickups.
> Engineers ate at restaurants, techs at strip clubs. Tribes.

The follow up move is weak at best and opens himself to attacks of elitism. +3 Larkin

> I don't think that a good tech is dumb or anything; I respect her
> skills. We can work together and create products. I want my techs to
> consider that a problem could be a design defect, and come talk to us
> about it. We *don't* want a test tech to, for example, replace an
> opamp four times until the thing works. Finding bugs can be a friendly
> rivalry, a sport.

Now he is heading into the territory of "my way is best". There's no shortage of Larkin's moves in this area, so he needs to watch out for the obvious countermoves. Still +3 Larkin

> We have a folder on a server, J:\NEXT. Every product has a folder and
> a file like PxxxAtoB.txt with other docs as needed. Anyone in the
> company can add notes and suggestions for the next rev, and the test
> people do roughly half.

Continuing in the same vein is asking for counter attacks. Still +3 Larkin

> The test people participate in new product design reviews too. They
> always want more test points.

Here he continues with the same tired "what I do is best" pronouncement, but he adds a slight for a bit of variety. +4 Larkin

Will Phil be able to defend against these attacks or will he cower under his bench hurling profanities?

--

Rick C.

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On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 12:14:47 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 15:13:59 -0800 (PST), Phil Allison
> <palli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

> >" ... post one of *your* designs so we can all criticise it ..."
> >
> > Not as a polite invitation - but a thinly disguised *threat*.
>
> It's an invitation to a sporting event, but only to people who know how to play this game.

It's a pity that John Larkin doesn't know how to play this particular game.

> >> I'm always happy to assist decent amateurs to understand things.

Not a claim for which I've seen an evidence here.

<sni>

> There is a fairly common syndrome, an electronics tech who can't design and who thinks electronic design is magic, and hates the magicians.

<snip>

True, but irrelevant. John Larkin is just being rude again.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney