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* Image From Space Shows Downtown San Francisco Sinking Slowly AroundFred Bloggs
+* Re: Image From Space Shows Downtown San Francisco Sinking Slowly Around Millennijlarkin
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|`* Re: Image From Space Shows Downtown San Francisco Sinking Slowly Around MillenniClifford Heath
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|  +* Re: Image From Space Shows Downtown San Francisco Sinking Slowly Around MillenniClifford Heath
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|  `* Re: Image From Space Shows Downtown San Francisco Sinking Slowly Around MillenniJan Panteltje
|   `- Re: Image From Space Shows Downtown San Francisco Sinking SlowlyEd Lee
`* Re: Image From Space Shows Downtown San Francisco Sinking Slowly Around Millennijlarkin
 `- Re: Image From Space Shows Downtown San Francisco Sinking Slowly Around MillenniJohn Doe

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Subject: Image From Space Shows Downtown San Francisco Sinking Slowly Around
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Looks like the Millennium tower is going to take out the downtown area of the city next.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/image-from-space-shows-downtown-san-francisco-sinking-slowly-around-millennium-tower/2739942/

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Fri, 26 Nov 2021 15:02 UTC

On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 03:59:54 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>Looks like the Millennium tower is going to take out the downtown area of the city next.
>
>https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/image-from-space-shows-downtown-san-francisco-sinking-slowly-around-millennium-tower/2739942/

A few-inches dimple way downtown is not a problem. Most of the city
sits on rock way above sea level and isn't going anywhere. The MT
building was badly designed and ugly besides.

New Orleans, Houston, Miami, Jakarta are really sinking.

--

Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still;
but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
always most valuable when he had lost it.

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On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 7:02:20 AM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>
> A few-inches dimple way downtown is not a problem. Most of the city
> sits on rock way above sea level and isn't going anywhere.

Here's one example of rock way above sea level
<https://youtu.be/aHNDPbuVAUI>
and in an earthquake, the 'isn't going anywhere' label doesn't apply.

Rock does have an advantage over soil, in that it doesn' liquefy. It can
still move dangerously, and the geologic history we know indicates a lot of
it has done so.

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Fri, 26 Nov 2021 21:48 UTC

On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:56:50 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 7:02:20 AM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>
>> A few-inches dimple way downtown is not a problem. Most of the city
>> sits on rock way above sea level and isn't going anywhere.
>
>Here's one example of rock way above sea level
><https://youtu.be/aHNDPbuVAUI>
>and in an earthquake, the 'isn't going anywhere' label doesn't apply.
>
>Rock does have an advantage over soil, in that it doesn' liquefy. It can
>still move dangerously, and the geologic history we know indicates a lot of
>it has done so.

I don't know of any big rocks like that in SF. There is some smaller
stuff in Glen Canyon that, low-probability, could take out some
hikers.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/uctuj70j233op3b/AAAP3_xeMxVxI57RQ68WwG4ua?dl=0

We do have a lot of eucalyptus trees. They are non-native and shallow
rooted, so occasionally fall over even without an earthquake.

The MT building is leaning *over 0.1 degrees* now. I calculate that if
you and Fred stay at least 2500 miles away, you might survive the
crash.

--

Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still;
but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
always most valuable when he had lost it.

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 by: Clifford Heath - Fri, 26 Nov 2021 22:28 UTC

On 27/11/21 2:02 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 03:59:54 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks like the Millennium tower is going to take out the downtown area of the city next.
>>
>> https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/image-from-space-shows-downtown-san-francisco-sinking-slowly-around-millennium-tower/2739942/
>
> A few-inches dimple way downtown is not a problem. Most of the city
> sits on rock way above sea level and isn't going anywhere.

It's a bloody big problem if one side of the tower is on rock (or just
on firmer soft stuff) and the other isn't, though.

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Fri, 26 Nov 2021 22:50 UTC

On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 09:28:55 +1100, Clifford Heath
<no.spam@please.net> wrote:

>On 27/11/21 2:02 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 03:59:54 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like the Millennium tower is going to take out the downtown area of the city next.
>>>
>>> https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/image-from-space-shows-downtown-san-francisco-sinking-slowly-around-millennium-tower/2739942/
>>
>> A few-inches dimple way downtown is not a problem. Most of the city
>> sits on rock way above sea level and isn't going anywhere.
>
>It's a bloody big problem if one side of the tower is on rock (or just
>on firmer soft stuff) and the other isn't, though.

MT is super heavy and none of the pilings reach bedrock.

The real problem is that the building is full of lawyers.

--

Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still;
but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
always most valuable when he had lost it.

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 by: Clifford Heath - Fri, 26 Nov 2021 23:32 UTC

On 27/11/21 9:50 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 09:28:55 +1100, Clifford Heath
> <no.spam@please.net> wrote:
>
>> On 27/11/21 2:02 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 03:59:54 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
>>> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like the Millennium tower is going to take out the downtown area of the city next.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/image-from-space-shows-downtown-san-francisco-sinking-slowly-around-millennium-tower/2739942/
>>>
>>> A few-inches dimple way downtown is not a problem. Most of the city
>>> sits on rock way above sea level and isn't going anywhere.
>>
>> It's a bloody big problem if one side of the tower is on rock (or just
>> on firmer soft stuff) and the other isn't, though.
>
> MT is super heavy and none of the pilings reach bedrock.
>
> The real problem is that the building is full of lawyers.

That's a problem? The only problem I see here is if they get enough
warning of its sudden collapse.

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Sat, 27 Nov 2021 00:02 UTC

On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 10:32:38 +1100, Clifford Heath
<no.spam@please.net> wrote:

>On 27/11/21 9:50 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 09:28:55 +1100, Clifford Heath
>> <no.spam@please.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/11/21 2:02 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 03:59:54 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
>>>> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks like the Millennium tower is going to take out the downtown area of the city next.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/image-from-space-shows-downtown-san-francisco-sinking-slowly-around-millennium-tower/2739942/
>>>>
>>>> A few-inches dimple way downtown is not a problem. Most of the city
>>>> sits on rock way above sea level and isn't going anywhere.
>>>
>>> It's a bloody big problem if one side of the tower is on rock (or just
>>> on firmer soft stuff) and the other isn't, though.
>>
>> MT is super heavy and none of the pilings reach bedrock.
>>
>> The real problem is that the building is full of lawyers.
>
>That's a problem? The only problem I see here is if they get enough
>warning of its sudden collapse.

0.11 degres of tilt in 12 years. Sea level rise will submerge it
before it collapses.

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but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
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On a sunny day (Fri, 26 Nov 2021 14:50:46 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
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>On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 09:28:55 +1100, Clifford Heath
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>>On 27/11/21 2:02 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 03:59:54 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
>>> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like the Millennium tower is going to take out the downtown area of the city next.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/image-from-space-shows-downtown-san-francisco-sinking-slowly-around-millennium-tower/2739942/
>>>
>>> A few-inches dimple way downtown is not a problem. Most of the city
>>> sits on rock way above sea level and isn't going anywhere.
>>
>>It's a bloody big problem if one side of the tower is on rock (or just
>>on firmer soft stuff) and the other isn't, though.
>
>MT is super heavy and none of the pilings reach bedrock.
>
>The real problem is that the building is full of lawyers.

The centrifugal force due to rotation of the earth will push it one way,
pointing south,
as it is not on the equator.

......

??

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On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 10:39:08 PM UTC-8, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Fri, 26 Nov 2021 14:50:46 -0800) it happened
> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
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> >On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 09:28:55 +1100, Clifford Heath
> ><no....@please.net> wrote:
> >
> >>On 27/11/21 2:02 am, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 03:59:54 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
> >>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Looks like the Millennium tower is going to take out the downtown area of the city next.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/image-from-space-shows-downtown-san-francisco-sinking-slowly-around-millennium-tower/2739942/
> >>>
> >>> A few-inches dimple way downtown is not a problem. Most of the city
> >>> sits on rock way above sea level and isn't going anywhere.
> >>
> >>It's a bloody big problem if one side of the tower is on rock (or just
> >>on firmer soft stuff) and the other isn't, though.
> >
> >MT is super heavy and none of the pilings reach bedrock.
> >
> >The real problem is that the building is full of lawyers.
> The centrifugal force due to rotation of the earth will push it one way,
> pointing south,
> as it is not on the equator.

Millennium Tower is leaning North-East.

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:06 UTC

On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 03:59:54 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>Looks like the Millennium tower is going to take out the downtown area of the city next.
>
>https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/image-from-space-shows-downtown-san-francisco-sinking-slowly-around-millennium-tower/2739942/

Mo wanted to walk the Salesforce elevated garden so I grumbled and
went with her, a short BART ride from our village.

The adjacent building is the Millennium Tower. You can't compare it
against Salesforce because Salesforce is curved, but if you line up an
edge against nearby square buildings there is no visible lean. 0.11
degrees would be hard to see and I doubt that the other buildings are
vertical to 0.11 degrees either.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fgx63mx2n3fbzil/AAAjP3OfMzMdp6fvTDxrGudHa?dl=0

At least she bought me a beer.

Better find something else to get worked up about. Albatross divorce
rates maybe.

--

Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still;
but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
always most valuable when he had lost it.

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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

> Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Looks like the Millennium tower is going to take out the downtown area of the city next.
>>
>>https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/image-from-space-shows-downtown-san-francisco-sinking-slowly-around-millennium-tower/2739942/
>
> [SWMBO] wanted to walk the Salesforce elevated garden so I grumbled and
> went with her, a short BART ride from our village.
>
> The adjacent building is the Millennium Tower. You can't compare it
> against Salesforce because Salesforce is curved, but if you line up an
> edge against nearby square buildings there is no visible lean. 0.11
> degrees would be hard to see and I doubt that the other buildings are
> vertical to 0.11 degrees either.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fgx63mx2n3fbzil/AAAjP3OfMzMdp6fvTDxrGudHa?dl=0
>
> At least she bought me a beer.
>
> Better find something else to get worked up about. Albatross divorce
> rates maybe.

It already has. Some of its early posts are National Enquirer stuff.

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