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* Re: Fake product queriesMichael Langford
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Re: Fake product queries

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Subject: Re: Fake product queries
From: barnunra...@gmail.com (Michael Langford)
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 by: Michael Langford - Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:02 UTC

On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 10:37:19 AM UTC-5, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 10:37:11 AM UTC-4, Jack M wrote:
> > responding to
> > http://www.electrondepot.com/electrodesign/fake-product-queries-953331-..htm ,
> > Jack M wrote:
> > > gnuarm.deletethisbit wrote:
> > >
> > > I haven't had one of these in a while and I just got one today...
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > I would like to inquire about Trickle Charger you sell,so email me
> > > availability and let me know the types of payment you accept.Hope to
> > > hear back from you ASAP.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Bill Dyer
> > > Dyer Product Inc,
> > > San Francisco, CA 94133
> > >
> > >
> > > The funny part is they didn't send it to the email address listed on the
> > > web site. Rather they sent it to an email address associated with
> > > posting here!
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Rick C.
> > >
> > > + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > >
> > Rick,
> > We received an email from the same Bill Dyer requesting 10 of our bike racks
> > to be shipped to New Zealand. I am assuming it's some kind of scam. Your
> > thoughts?
> You can converse with him a bit to ask questions about shipping and payment, etc. While they will have canned responses I'm sure, it will take someone's time to read your post. You should put as much junk and promotional info as possible. Spend some time discussing part numbers and finish. It would seem they at least looked at your web site to know something you sell.
>
> I don't know how the scam works exactly. Usually they don't want the items. They want money. One way of getting that is to pay with a larger check than the purchase and get the difference in cash somehow. Usually this is done in person with a check from some apparently reliable source. Buy $3,000 of stuff, use a $5,000 check and get $2,000 back.
>
> I'm curious about how they plan to pull this off. On the other hand, by acknowledging the email you are reinforcing that it is a valid email address and may get more from others. It might be best if you just ignore it completely.
>
> Is there any reason why anyone in New Zealand would want to buy your bike racks? Where in the world are you?
>
> --
>
> Rick C.
>
> -+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> -+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Bill Dyer <marykind52@gmail.com>
11:55 AM (5 minutes ago)
to me
Why is this message in spam?

It is similar to messages that were identified as spam in the past.

Greetings,
Hope you're good. Through my search for Barn Birdhouse, I came across your address. Kindly let me know if you have it for sales. Also what are your payment terms and do you consider credit card an option? Will await your responses.

Best Regards,

Bill Dyer
Dyer Product Inc,
Glendale, CA 91203, USA

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Subject: Re: Fake product queries
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 by: Dave Gore - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 23:00 UTC

On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:03:02 AM UTC-7, Michael Langford wrote:
> On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 10:37:19 AM UTC-5, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 10:37:11 AM UTC-4, Jack M wrote:
> > > responding to
> > > http://www.electrondepot.com/electrodesign/fake-product-queries-953331-.htm ,
> > > Jack M wrote:
> > > > gnuarm.deletethisbit wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I haven't had one of these in a while and I just got one today...
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > > I would like to inquire about Trickle Charger you sell,so email me
> > > > availability and let me know the types of payment you accept.Hope to
> > > > hear back from you ASAP.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Bill Dyer
> > > > Dyer Product Inc,
> > > > San Francisco, CA 94133
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The funny part is they didn't send it to the email address listed on the
> > > > web site. Rather they sent it to an email address associated with
> > > > posting here!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Rick C.
> > > >
> > > > + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > >
> > > Rick,
> > > We received an email from the same Bill Dyer requesting 10 of our bike racks
> > > to be shipped to New Zealand. I am assuming it's some kind of scam. Your
> > > thoughts?
> > You can converse with him a bit to ask questions about shipping and payment, etc. While they will have canned responses I'm sure, it will take someone's time to read your post. You should put as much junk and promotional info as possible. Spend some time discussing part numbers and finish. It would seem they at least looked at your web site to know something you sell.
> >
> > I don't know how the scam works exactly. Usually they don't want the items. They want money. One way of getting that is to pay with a larger check than the purchase and get the difference in cash somehow. Usually this is done in person with a check from some apparently reliable source. Buy $3,000 of stuff, use a $5,000 check and get $2,000 back.
> >
> > I'm curious about how they plan to pull this off. On the other hand, by acknowledging the email you are reinforcing that it is a valid email address and may get more from others. It might be best if you just ignore it completely.
> >
> > Is there any reason why anyone in New Zealand would want to buy your bike racks? Where in the world are you?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rick C.
> >
> > -+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > -+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> Bill Dyer <maryk...@gmail.com>
>
> 11:55 AM (5 minutes ago)
>
> to me
> Why is this message in spam?
>
> It is similar to messages that were identified as spam in the past.
>
> Greetings,
> Hope you're good. Through my search for Barn Birdhouse, I came across your address. Kindly let me know if you have it for sales. Also what are your payment terms and do you consider credit card an option? Will await your responses.
> Best Regards,
>
> Bill Dyer
> Dyer Product Inc,
> Glendale, CA 91203, USA

Another one from Glendale. They seem to like the name Bill

Mr. Reeder <charlessales54@gmail.com>
Nov 16, 2021, 10:29 AM
to me

Greetings,
Hope you are fine. Well I am in the market to purchase Tire Carrier and through my search I came across your address. Kindly let me know the models you have or a link to the ones you have in stock. Also want to know whether you consider credit card an option for payment? Write soon.

Best Regards,

Bill Reeder
Reeder Equipment Co.
Glendale, CA 91203, USA

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 by: Robert Baer - Wed, 1 Dec 2021 03:36 UTC

Dave Gore wrote:
> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:03:02 AM UTC-7, Michael Langford wrote:
>> On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 10:37:19 AM UTC-5, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 10:37:11 AM UTC-4, Jack M wrote:
>>>> responding to
>>>> http://www.electrondepot.com/electrodesign/fake-product-queries-953331-.htm ,
>>>> Jack M wrote:
>>>>> gnuarm.deletethisbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't had one of these in a while and I just got one today...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I would like to inquire about Trickle Charger you sell,so email me
>>>>> availability and let me know the types of payment you accept.Hope to
>>>>> hear back from you ASAP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Dyer
>>>>> Dyer Product Inc,
>>>>> San Francisco, CA 94133
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The funny part is they didn't send it to the email address listed on the
>>>>> web site. Rather they sent it to an email address associated with
>>>>> posting here!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick C.
>>>>>
>>>>> + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
>>>>> + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
>>>>>
>>>> Rick,
>>>> We received an email from the same Bill Dyer requesting 10 of our bike racks
>>>> to be shipped to New Zealand. I am assuming it's some kind of scam. Your
>>>> thoughts?
>>> You can converse with him a bit to ask questions about shipping and payment, etc. While they will have canned responses I'm sure, it will take someone's time to read your post. You should put as much junk and promotional info as possible. Spend some time discussing part numbers and finish. It would seem they at least looked at your web site to know something you sell.
>>>
>>> I don't know how the scam works exactly. Usually they don't want the items. They want money. One way of getting that is to pay with a larger check than the purchase and get the difference in cash somehow. Usually this is done in person with a check from some apparently reliable source. Buy $3,000 of stuff, use a $5,000 check and get $2,000 back.
>>>
>>> I'm curious about how they plan to pull this off. On the other hand, by acknowledging the email you are reinforcing that it is a valid email address and may get more from others. It might be best if you just ignore it completely.
>>>
>>> Is there any reason why anyone in New Zealand would want to buy your bike racks? Where in the world are you?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Rick C.
>>>
>>> -+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
>>> -+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
>> Bill Dyer <maryk...@gmail.com>
>>
>> 11:55 AM (5 minutes ago)
>>
>> to me
>> Why is this message in spam?
>>
>> It is similar to messages that were identified as spam in the past.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Hope you're good. Through my search for Barn Birdhouse, I came across your address. Kindly let me know if you have it for sales. Also what are your payment terms and do you consider credit card an option? Will await your responses.
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Bill Dyer
>> Dyer Product Inc,
>> Glendale, CA 91203, USA
>
>
> Another one from Glendale. They seem to like the name Bill
>
> Mr. Reeder <charlessales54@gmail.com>
>
> Nov 16, 2021, 10:29 AM
>
> to me
>
> Greetings,
> Hope you are fine. Well I am in the market to purchase Tire Carrier and through my search I came across your address. Kindly let me know the models you have or a link to the ones you have in stock. Also want to know whether you consider credit card an option for payment? Write soon.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bill Reeder
> Reeder Equipment Co.
> Glendale, CA 91203, USA
>
>
Common fake e-mail "queries" supposedly from head of University
department or mid-size business.
Variant includes a list of rather specific semi-exotic items.
Items mentioned not related to your business.

Have yet to figure out why they waste their time and internet bandwidth.

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 by: Spehro Pefhany - Thu, 2 Dec 2021 14:16 UTC

On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 19:36:50 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

>
>> Greetings,
>> Hope you are fine. Well I am in the market to purchase Tire Carrier and through my search I came across your address. Kindly let me know the models you have or a link to the ones you have in stock. Also want to know whether you consider credit card an option for payment? Write soon.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Bill Reeder
>> Reeder Equipment Co.
>> Glendale, CA 91203, USA
>>
>>
> Common fake e-mail "queries" supposedly from head of University
>department or mid-size business.
> Variant includes a list of rather specific semi-exotic items.
> Items mentioned not related to your business.
>
> Have yet to figure out why they waste their time and internet bandwidth.

I get these regularly. It's a classic overpayment scam. They get you
to ship something to some fake address with check or credit card
payment. They will overpay the amount on some pretext.

Then ask you to credit the overpayment to some shady account.
Irrevocably.

By the time the credit card or check is detected as stolen they hope
to have your cash in hand. They may not care about the goods at all,
especially if they're holed up in a boiler room in Nigeria or Benin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpayment_scam

Why is the quality so low? That, in itself, acts as a filter. If they
get a response it's probably someone vulnerable. If you've got free
time and confidence in your firewalls you can string them along for
amusement. Maybe confidence in physical security if you take it too
far.

Like that data scientist who was murdered in Chicago a couple weeks
ago, for a phone and laptop, pawned for $100, they dont give a s**t
about what it costs you, only the amount they can pocket.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/11/10/university-of-chicago-student-killed-in-robbery-shaoxiong-zheng/

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Spehro Pefhany

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