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AP's 214th book of Science// First Multicellular Organism on Earth was a cancer of a single cell
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AP's 214th book of Science// First Multicellular Organism on Earth was a cancer of a single cell.

We usually think of the first multicellular creature to evolve on Earth as coming from a colony of single cells. Where the single cells lend favorable behavior to the whole of the colony, a colony acting as one unit rather than the individual cells.

In this theory, the opposite is the truth, that no colony can become a single creature, no matter how beneficial each is to the others and as a sum total of cells.

In this theory, the evolution of the multicell does not come from a colony but comes from a cancer of a individual single cell.

We easily can see how a cancer can form a new organ. If I had lived with my liposarcoma and had not killed me, you could say that AP has a new organ, not seen in any other human. And in this manner, if the organ was beneficial and I reproduced and the offspring developed the same cancer organ, soon we have a new species.

But getting back to the first multicellular organism on Earth. It came from a single cell that went cancerous and instead of parting from the parent cell, remained and each division stayed in a growing mass of cells that now forms a multicellular new organism.

What I am tasked to do and research is what plant or animal still living that resembles this dynamics of cell division turned cancerous and staying with the parent cell. I am pretty sure there is some multicellular organism that resembles this dynamics.

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On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 6:34:07 PM UTC-6, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> AP's 214th book of Science// First Multicellular Organism on Earth was a cancer of a single cell.
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> We usually think of the first multicellular creature to evolve on Earth as coming from a colony of single cells. Where the single cells lend favorable behavior to the whole of the colony, a colony acting as one unit rather than the individual cells.
>
> In this theory, the opposite is the truth, that no colony can become a single creature, no matter how beneficial each is to the others and as a sum total of cells.
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> In this theory, the evolution of the multicell does not come from a colony but comes from a cancer of a individual single cell.
>
> We easily can see how a cancer can form a new organ. If I had lived with my liposarcoma and had not killed me, you could say that AP has a new organ, not seen in any other human. And in this manner, if the organ was beneficial and I reproduced and the offspring developed the same cancer organ, soon we have a new species.
>
> But getting back to the first multicellular organism on Earth. It came from a single cell that went cancerous and instead of parting from the parent cell, remained and each division stayed in a growing mass of cells that now forms a multicellular new organism.
>

Now here is some good research. For we research a single cell in mitosis and where it splits off from the parent cell. In this splitting off, what if the splitting off never occurred. What if the splitting off that was supposed to be carried out never occurred. Then this would be the same as cancer itself.

So if we investigate in mitosis the splitting off process, we are getting a glimpse into cancer cells mechanism.

AP

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Alright, this is going to be one of my easiest proofs in biology science. For I just looked up in Google with search terms "mitochondria acts as a liver" and lo and behold, it not only likes like a liver but the liver is predominately constructed of mitochondria, in other words the mitochondria is a liver in single cells.

And this also proves where the mitochondria DNA found in animal cells is so much different from the regular DNA found in the animal.

Now at first glance, one would think because of two different DNA is proof of a Colony of 1 celled creatures forms a multicell creature. But AP says that a multicell creature comes from a single cell that has cancer and cannot stop its mitosis.

In other words, cancer is mitosis that cannot stop.

So here again we need to research how in mitosis one cell detaches from the parent cell. For then we see cancer in a whole new different light, as a problem of Detachement from the parent. So if the daughter cell cannot detach from the parent cell, both start another mitosis with no detachement.

So in this view we see cancer as a Detachement problem and focus our attention on how in normal mitosis, the detachement takes place.

Because if Cancer is a detachement problem we can find medicine to halt that detachement problem.

So I was saying that the First MultiCellular Organism was not formed by a colony of single cells that merrily find advantages from one another and working in unison. No, that is not what I see as the evolution of First MultiCellular Organism. But rather from cancers of single cells. Where they divide in mitosis, but fail to Detach, and keep dividing.

So that say given a million of single cell creatures, that perhaps 1 or 2 of those creatures in mitosis fails to detach and forms a mass of cells, a mass that is multicellular.

Now most of these will die quickly, but some have a newly formed mass that can function and grow and live long lives.

Now in one of these Multicellular Cancers is a organism that is well suited to its environment and needs to process the nutrients it eats in a liver. In the single cell it is the mitochrondria. And this newly formed multicellular organism starts to connect up many of the mitochondria for which these form a cancer in the connected mitochrondria and it grows into a cancer tumor which is the liver in animals. Its DNA is different from the DNA in regular cells of the new multicellular organism.

AP, King of Science, especially Physics

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So in this relook, reevaluation of what is really going on in cancer, we come down to the idea that Detachment is the disease problem and not the reproduction out of control.

The Detachement starts the cycle of Cancer.

So a cell divides and to finish off the division in mitosis, it needs to Detach from the parent cell. But it unfortunately is blocked from detachement and that is the Start of Cancer. So now the new cell cannot detach from the Parent cell and we have cancer. So now the new cell and parent cell unable to detach do another Mitosis and that also fails to detach and here we have full blown cancer.

So Old Medical Science looked at Cancer and said "aha, reproduction out of control". Which is true, but it misses and fails to see what caused the reproduction out of control.

What caused the reproduction out of control was a few steps earlier in the chain of events. Those steps of Detachement.

We had a Parent cell going through Mitosis and all was normal except then the parent cell needs to Detach from the new daughter cell. It cannot detach.. Unable to detach, and at that moment we have Cancer.

The failure to detach sends a chain signal in both the Parent and Daughter Cell to reproduce again, for this signal of reproduce again may get the undetached two cells, get them to split off from one another, but unfortunately the second reproduction piles on more undetached cells forming a tumor, a cancer mass of tumor.

Now in my extensive reading of science magazines I ran across articles that elephants rarely get cancer. And if my memory is correct, it was blamed on Long, very long Telomeres, the end caps on DNA. Saying that short telomeres cause cancer, and long telomeres are free of cancer.

So here we may have a link up, that telomeres are the Detachment mechanism of cells undergoing Mitosis. If the telomeres are short, there is no detachement and hence there is the start of cancer.

So, well the important message I am trying to convey is that throughout Medical History we looked at Cancer as Uncontrolled Replication. But what we really should have looked it was the steps leading up to uncontrolled replication. That step being the daughter cell is unable to detach from the parent cell, and then that causes the uncontrolled replication. So Cancer, really is a Problem of detachment of daughter cell from parent cell.

This would make sense in the carcinogens of asbestos and of butane, where they cause a halt to detachement for the asbestos fiber spears like a spear pinning two cells together, or like butane causing the parent cell to weld onto the daughter cell.

This also sheds light on what cancers metastasize and what cancers have small cell cancer or large cell cancer. All of them seen as Starting Problem of the daughter cell unable to Detach from the Parent cell in Mitosis.

All makes perfect Logical sense.

AP, King of Science, especially Physics

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Very difficult, perhaps impossible to evolve a colony of single cells to be a multicellular organism.

No, the way Multicellular came about was cancers in individual cells. The cancer was formed during the detachment of the daughter cell from parent cell, could not detach, something was holding it up, something was attached to the daughter and parent cell that they became multicellular. And then this attachment caused the two attached cells to further divide by mitosis, hoping that the further replication would free the two single cells. But the further replication-- now you have cancer-- the further division only made matters worse for now you have a multicellular organism and the attachment part is what is called in plants the cuticle and called in animals the skin.

I was not that aware of the Cuticle in plants until this writing. The Internet says the cuticle is composed of waxes and is a polymer network of fatty acids of cutin.

Being an animal myself I have lived all my life aware of animal skin.

So, we must research to see how a single cell plant can, during mitosis, get attached with its daughter cell and parent cell and if that attachement site be that of cuticle cutin type of material, or evolve quite easily into cuticle cutin material.

As for animals, well the same stages of evolution occur. A single cell type of animal, say it is a fungus animal tries to divide by mitosis and is stuck on a attachment of the parent and daughter cell. The attachment becomes the skin of that evolved Multicellular animal.

So here we easily see how Multicellular organisms evolved from single cells.. And we see that Cancer is how it is done. And we now can recognize that the Primal Mechanism of cancer is not the Out of Control Replication, but what causes cancer is the inability for two cells in mitosis to detach. They become bonded by some material, which signals the parent and daughter cell to try to replicate again in mitosis to see if that will detach them, and of course it does not but the signalling to divide continues.

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On Wed Dec 1 00:03:05 2021 Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> AP's 214th book of Science// First Multicellular Organism on Earth was a cancer of a single cell
> 1m views...

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> So that say given a million of single cell creatures, that perhaps 1 or 2 of those creatures in mitosis fails to detach and forms a mass of cells, a mass that is multicellular.
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> Now most of these will die quickly, but some have a newly formed mass that can function and grow and live long lives.
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> Now in one of these Multicellular Cancers is a organism that is well suited to its environment and needs to process the nutrients it eats in a liver. In the single cell it is the mitochrondria. And this newly formed multicellular organism starts to connect up many of the mitochondria for which these form a cancer in the connected mitochrondria and it grows into a cancer tumor which is the liver in animals. Its DNA is different from the DNA in regular cells of the new multicellular organism.
>
> AP, King of Science, especially Physics

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You need to change your title: Archimedes Plutonium, King of Science, especially Physics, and Biology, not so much.

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On Wed Dec 1 14:00:45 2021 Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Very difficult, perhaps impossible to evolve a colony of single cells to be a multicellular organism.
>
> No, the way Multicellular came about was cancers in individual cells. The cancer was formed during the detachment of the daughter cell from parent cell, could not detach, something was holding it up, something was attached to the daughter and parent cell that they became multicellular. And then this attachment caused the two attached cells to further divide by mitosis, hoping that the further replication would free the two single cells. But the further replication-- now you have cancer-- the further division only made matters worse for now you have a multicellular organism and the attachment part is what is called in plants the cuticle and called in animals the skin.
>
> I was not that aware of the Cuticle in plants until this writing. The Internet says the cuticle is composed of waxes and is a polymer network of fatty acids of cutin.
>
> Being an animal myself I have lived all my life aware of animal skin.
>
> So, we must research to see how a single cell plant can, during mitosis, get attached with its daughter cell and parent cell and if that attachement site be that of cuticle cutin type of material, or evolve quite easily into cuticle cutin material.
>
> As for animals, well the same stages of evolution occur. A single cell type of animal, say it is a fungus animal tries to divide by mitosis and is stuck on a attachment of the parent and daughter cell. The attachment becomes the skin of that evolved Multicellular animal.
>
> So here we easily see how Multicellular organisms evolved from single cells. And we see that Cancer is how it is done. And we now can recognize that the Primal Mechanism of cancer is not the Out of Control Replication, but what causes cancer is the inability for two cells in mitosis to detach. They become bonded by some material, which signals the parent and daughter cell to try to replicate again in mitosis to see if that will detach them, and of course it does not but the signalling to divide continues.
>
> AP, King of Science, especially Physics, but Biology, not so much.

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