On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 18:20:49 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
wrote:

>The members of Pink Floyd were always arrogant, they had a right to be. What Waters said is true and what IS true is that 99% of pop today is forgettable and will not be remembered and is of no real significance to music..
>
>https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/privileged-white-boomer-fans-upset-over-roger-waters-comment-about-the-weeknd-drake/ar-AAZHUBH?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=26d0b42c354c41a4a0c33725ccfc3a15

100% of humans will not be remembered, because there will be none to
remember them.

On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 7:35:43 PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:

> 100% of humans will not be remembered, because there will be none to
> remember them.

That may well be true 100 billion years from now. However, I am inclined to
consider such pessimism premature, and to avoid setting limits to how long
we shall be able to ensure that Euler and Gauss, Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler
and Newton, and various others too numerous to list here (such as Albert
Einstein, Srinivasa Ramanujan, Kurt Godel, Evariste Galois...), shall be
remembered.

However, 100 years from now, it may well be that while the Beatles, and even Led Zeppelin,
Def Leppard, and Pink Floyd, are still remembered, Drake and the Weeknd will be largely
forgotten. I am happy to concede _this_ to Roger Waters; in the field of music, it is the
memory of such people as Johann Sebastian Bach that will outlive his.

John Savard

On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 21:23:45 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 7:35:43 PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>
>> 100% of humans will not be remembered, because there will be none to
>> remember them.
>
>That may well be true 100 billion years from now.

That's a given. I imagine the timeline could be as short as a few
thousand years, or as long as a few hundred thousand.

Nothing pessimistic abut it, though. Just the reality of the course of
existence of species.

On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 13:22:47 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tuesday, 19 July 2022 at 08:49:41 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 21:23:45 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 7:35:43 PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> >
>> >> 100% of humans will not be remembered, because there will be none to
>> >> remember them.
>> >
>> >That may well be true 100 billion years from now.
>> That's a given. I imagine the timeline could be as short as a few
>> thousand years, or as long as a few hundred thousand.
>>
>> Nothing pessimistic abut it, though. Just the reality of the course of
>> existence of species.
>
>We still remember people from the dawn of history, no reason why we should forget them over time if records in some fashion are kept and updated, but the "oral tradition" is important to. But, if we evolve into some kind of creatures that have no use for the past, who knows?

We remember names. Often we don't even know if they were real people
(e.g. Jesus).

But my point is that we're unlikely to be here at all in thousands of
years, and if we are, we'll have collapsed back to the stone age more
than once, which means everything gets forgotten.

If we survive the next few centuries, we'll be managing our own
evolution. It will no longer be a natural process.