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* Philosophy and physicsRichard Hertz
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This came from one member here that makes 300+ posts/month. when he
was a newbie at this forum. Explains a lot.

He followed with an increasing amount of "interventions", with SR at first and
soon with GR and the entire building of physics.

In less than one year, he self-awarded an honorary PhD on philosophy of
theoretical physics. Now, he has three or four more PhD, also self-awarded.

"That may be the the attraction of philosophy, as far as I can see. You
can argue all day about it and never be proven wrong. In fact, you can
claim at the end of the day that you won every argument because nobody
could prove you wrong. I can see why that might be fun for some people."

Pure einstenian "natural philosophy" on action: bla, bla, bla, bla....

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Some gems found by digging in old posts from this forums. What a difference 9 years make on some people's mind.
I think I'll c&p some, which I find very telling about posters:

Roberts, 2013:

"Nope. "Absolute time" was abandoned because it simply does not work in the world
we inhabit. Clocks at rest in different inertial frames do not remain in sync,
as "absolute time" would require. Also, clocks at rest at different altitudes on
earth do not remain in sync, as "absolute time" would require."

..................

"Nope. The mathematics/geometry underlying SR has been proven to be as
self-consistent as is Euclidean geometry, and also as is real analysis."
..................

Bodkin, 2013:

"A physicist is someone who earns their degree from a university. With a major in physics, right?
From the people that I've talked with, being a physicist usually involves getting a degree higher than
baccalaureate. Usually doctoral, sometimes masters. I don't know anyone who has successfully
pursued a career in physics with just a bachelor's in physics. Do you?"
...............

"Putting it another way, I don't really put much stock in any philosophical conclusions that are derived from playing
around with the sloppiness and ambiguity of language. That just seems more like fooling around to me."
...............

"A little humility is good for the soul. I personally don't need to be flattered that I'm wise or insightful in a subject area
I know very little about. Some things are interesting, even if what I have to say about it is not very interesting at all."
...............

I suppose that's traced to my propensity to ask physicists what "physical" means, rather than making something up that
pleases me or what I think is right.
I certainly don't expect people to rely on what I say on the matter, and in fact I think I would be less reliable if I put
forward my own meaning to the word that the experts in the subject did not share.
If I cared about being deemed "reliable", I would not rely on force of argument or how clear my ideas seemed to be.
I would rely on experts agreeing with me.
...............

> Bodkin : Can you please supply what that equation is ?

This is a gray area for me, sorry. I think it depends on what kind of thing it is. If it's got mass, then its momentum is
p = mvc/sqrt(c^2-v^2).
But there are massless things that have momentum too, like photons and gluons, and that formula above just doesn't work.
For those things, I've see things like p = hf/c, where f is a frequency of some kind, though I don't know what the frequency
of a photon is, exactly. It's not a wiggle rate back and forth, I know that.

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Old gems.

Bodkin, same thread as above post:

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"I'm very confused. You've said that absolute time is measured every day. You've said that the only time is absolute time.
You've said that absolute time is proper time, which is the time measured on clocks at rest in that frame. And you've said
that an absolute time clock doesn't exist in our universe. You might be able to make sense out of all of this, but it seems
like mumbo-jumbo to me.°
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REPLY: Odd Bodkin wrote:

> I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.I'm very confused.

This is how the egotistical self flagellate.
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LOL. Inpressive evolution of the self-awarded PhD on Physics Odds Bodkin (2013 - 2022)

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 by: The Starmaker - Mon, 28 Feb 2022 06:38 UTC

Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> Some gems found by digging in old posts from this forums. What a difference 9 years make on some people's mind.
> I think I'll c&p some, which I find very telling about posters:

> .................
>
> Bodkin, 2013:
>
> "A physicist is someone who earns their degree from a university. With a major in physics, right?
> From the people that I've talked with, being a physicist usually involves getting a degree higher than
> baccalaureate. Usually doctoral, sometimes masters. I don't know anyone who has successfully
> pursued a career in physics with just a bachelor's in physics. Do you?"
> ..............

He's always talking about himself..

I mean, it's about Him, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=of8f7Kj1yiE

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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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 by: Richard Hertz - Mon, 28 Feb 2022 07:33 UTC

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 3:37:29 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> > Some gems found by digging in old posts from this forums. What a difference 9 years make on some people's mind.
> > I think I'll c&p some, which I find very telling about posters:
> > .................
> >
> > Bodkin, 2013:
> >
> > "A physicist is someone who earns their degree from a university. With a major in physics, right?
> > From the people that I've talked with, being a physicist usually involves getting a degree higher than
> > baccalaureate. Usually doctoral, sometimes masters. I don't know anyone who has successfully
> > pursued a career in physics with just a bachelor's in physics. Do you?"
> > ..............
> He's always talking about himself..
>
> I mean, it's about Him, right?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=of8f7Kj1yiE
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> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

Another gem, now from 2017:

What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics.relativity/c/NNQLGf7sb4I/m/thSy5L2wAAAJ

"I'm aware that there are a number of people on this group who are not
even comfortable with the concepts of 19th century physics, let alone
20th century physics, and these people prefer to just speculate and
argue about what "feels right" to them, justified or not."

"I'm aware that there are a number of people on this group who think 19th
century physics (the "classical" physics of Newton and Kelvin and
Maxwell) is still the best model, and that physics went astray with
relativity and quantum mechanics and basically anything that says
classical physics is off a bit."

"But what's interesting to me is that, with some of the reading that I've
done over the last decade, even the "modern physics" of the 20th century
has been left behind for newer and much different ideas."

*************************************
"Well, I would quibble about it being "just math". Fields are very real.
The properties of empty space are very real. And symmetry is very real.
All of these are PHYSICAL concepts. Just different ones. Not the ones of
our everyday worldview or our common sense.

Our common sense minds are just focused on the wrong things."

*************************************

HE KNOWS EVERYTHING OF ANYTHING.

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 by: Richard Hertz - Mon, 28 Feb 2022 13:36 UTC

I've read 600 books in the last 10 years.
I read a book per week.
I spent 20% of my adult life so far, so I expect to read another 2400 books not written yet.

Bodkin, 2015

So, I pretend to have about 30, and I plan to live up to 80, given or taken a couple of years.

*******

But but will books exist by 2065?

Maybe you will take a green pill and the entire content will be within you. Miscalculation.

Maybe it will be possible to read 1 book per day, sooon. He will make the mark of 20,000 or above that.

Mythomaniac.

Don't ever believe a word written or spoken by a master deceiver.

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Mon, 28 Feb 2022 15:54 UTC

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> This came from one member here that makes 300+ posts/month. when he
> was a newbie at this forum. Explains a lot.
>
> He followed with an increasing amount of "interventions", with SR at first and
> soon with GR and the entire building of physics.
>
> In less than one year, he self-awarded an honorary PhD on philosophy of
> theoretical physics. Now, he has three or four more PhD, also self-awarded.
>
>
> "That may be the the attraction of philosophy, as far as I can see. You
> can argue all day about it and never be proven wrong. In fact, you can
> claim at the end of the day that you won every argument because nobody
> could prove you wrong. I can see why that might be fun for some people."
>
>
> Pure einstenian "natural philosophy" on action: bla, bla, bla, bla....
>
>

After perusing some further posts in this thread, I’m struggling to
understand what point you are trying to convey.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Mon, 28 Feb 2022 15:54 UTC

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 3:37:29 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Richard Hertz wrote:
>>>
>>> Some gems found by digging in old posts from this forums. What a
>>> difference 9 years make on some people's mind.
>>> I think I'll c&p some, which I find very telling about posters:
>>> .................
>>>
>>> Bodkin, 2013:
>>>
>>> "A physicist is someone who earns their degree from a university. With
>>> a major in physics, right?
>>> From the people that I've talked with, being a physicist usually
>>> involves getting a degree higher than
>>> baccalaureate. Usually doctoral, sometimes masters. I don't know anyone
>>> who has successfully
>>> pursued a career in physics with just a bachelor's in physics. Do you?"
>>> ..............
>> He's always talking about himself..
>>
>> I mean, it's about Him, right?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=of8f7Kj1yiE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> and challenge
>> the unchallengeable.
>
> Another gem, now from 2017:
>
> What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view
> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics.relativity/c/NNQLGf7sb4I/m/thSy5L2wAAAJ
>
> "I'm aware that there are a number of people on this group who are not
> even comfortable with the concepts of 19th century physics, let alone
> 20th century physics, and these people prefer to just speculate and
> argue about what "feels right" to them, justified or not."
>
> "I'm aware that there are a number of people on this group who think 19th
> century physics (the "classical" physics of Newton and Kelvin and
> Maxwell) is still the best model, and that physics went astray with
> relativity and quantum mechanics and basically anything that says
> classical physics is off a bit."
>
> "But what's interesting to me is that, with some of the reading that I've
> done over the last decade, even the "modern physics" of the 20th century
> has been left behind for newer and much different ideas."
>
> *************************************
>
> "Well, I would quibble about it being "just math". Fields are very real.
> The properties of empty space are very real. And symmetry is very real.
> All of these are PHYSICAL concepts. Just different ones. Not the ones of
> our everyday worldview or our common sense.
>
> Our common sense minds are just focused on the wrong things."
>
> *************************************
>
> HE KNOWS EVERYTHING OF ANYTHING.

Don’t be silly.
I just know something about relativity and other areas of physics,
including quantum field theory.

That is by no means EVERYTHING of ANYTHING.

I know very little electrical engineering, for example, and you won’t see
me saying much about it.
I know next to nothing about nursing or architecture or organic chemistry
or corporate law or ancient East Asian history, and dozens of other topics
I say nothing about.

I think you’re the one that’s been claiming that engineers know all the
important things about any technology that matters. So I gather you want
the “EVERYTHING OF ANYTHING” expertise claim for yourself?

>
>
>
>

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Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've read 600 books in the last 10 years.
> I read a book per week.
> I spent 20% of my adult life so far, so I expect to read another 2400
> books not written yet.
>
> Bodkin, 2015
>
> So, I pretend to have about 30, and I plan to live up to 80, given or
> taken a couple of years.
>
> *******
>
> But but will books exist by 2065?
>
> Maybe you will take a green pill and the entire content will be within you. Miscalculation.
>
> Maybe it will be possible to read 1 book per day, sooon. He will make the
> mark of 20,000 or above that.
>
> Mythomaniac.
>
> Don't ever believe a word written or spoken by a master deceiver.
>
>
>

Do you think it is impossible for a human being to read a book a week?
Really??

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Den 28.02.2022 06:05, skrev Richard Hertz:
> Some gems found by digging in old posts from this forums.

Gems from 2019:

Richard Hertz:
"you should try with coaxial lines and the speed of electricity
as a function of the diameter of the inner copper wire.
Hint: the lower the diameter and the ratio between its section
area with the insulation area, the better."
(an EE-ingeneer?)

------------
Richard Hertz:
"Your comments about that only experiments disprove a theory
and that no theory can prove other theory wrong, I think
that it's a senseless mantra by which many physicists PROTECT
their stupid theories, when they are beyond any practical mean
to prove it right/wrong."

-------------------
Richard Hertz:
"Regarding experiments that prove (or disprove) time dilation,
it doesn't worth the effort to keep talking about them (for me),
because the effort to invest is too large and, potentially,
I could be accused of conspiracy theorist, for which I have no
intentions to discuss publicly, in a forum."

----------------
Richard Hertz:
"I don't need to prove STR is flawed or wrong.
Time and many others do it for me."

Paul B. Anderson:
"In that case I am sure you can give a reference to
the experiments that falsified SR and the names
of the many others that performed the experiments."

Richard Hertz:
"Forget about it, and look for at others to reply, not me.
I'll stick to my opinions, so do you so with yours."

Richard Hertz:
"I don't understand why you mention that I claimed that
"others" falsified relativity. Never said that.
Can explain me how did you deduced that?"
---------------------

Richard Hertz:
"Maximal KE of any charged particle is KE=1/2.m.c^2.
The extra energy measured is due to the photonic field energy,
which travels along the particle and increase as crazy as
the charged particle is accelerated and reach "c". FACT!
Particle accelerators and E=Gamma.mc^2 my ass!"

-----------------------
Richard Hertz:
"I'll always have the upper hand on every topic at which I'm
involved. We have had quite a number of "the best in the world"
in this NG. But you are the very best, obviously!
And the reason is very simple: Instead of your attitude, I only
engage on topics at which I can master in one way or another.
Just accept it and stop looking for a nemesis (which we are not),
or keep crashing into the reality. Either at a discursive level or
a technical discussion, I'm more resourceful and capable than you."

-----------------------
Richard Hertz:
"Nobody can tell how a comercial or industrial GPS receiver works,
OR they can be sued (and imprisoned) for violating laws for PI
and beyond.
So, the only way out of this problem is to make educated guesses.
And, at this point, my opinion has the same value as any other's
professional opinion (not physicists, but EE formed in the
processing of received signals and messages)."

-----------------------
Richard Hertz:
"Another example of loss of causalty is the synthesis of a PERFECT
digital filter, with performances exceding those of the analog
counterparts (Butterworth, Laplace, etc.). Each point of the spectra
of the filter transfer fuction is manipulated to get the wanted shape.
Then, when digital signals passes through such kind of filters,
CAUSALTY is violated again, in the digital domain."

-----------------------
Richard Hertz:
"For instance, about the accretion disk that encircle the event
horizon, it's a sad attempt made by theoreticians about how light
could struggle to get out of the BH but is condemned to CIRCLE
around it (orbiting exactly at a radius 2GMc^-2 from the origin
singularity).
Now, assuming that light is in a circular orbit at such a radius
means that it can't escape the BH.
But light confined in a circular orbit can't irradiate even
a picojoule of energy outside such ring (the accretion disk).
So, for us, there CAN NOT EXIST any radial component of that light
which can be observed from Earth, BECAUSE it would mean that
radiation is ESCAPING the BH.
Then, the accretion disk is INVISIBLE to us, and is not anything
more than a product of a feverish mind."

Richard Hertz is a productive producer of gems,
but this will have to do.
For now.

--

Paul

https://paulba.no/

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What about this one, from the "IKEA" (I Know Everything of Anything):

Bodkin 2015:
******************
"No. The workstation concept died in the 80's and 90's, along with companies like DEC and Silicon Graphics.

The desktop PC is now actually pretty close to the vision of the Xerox Alto, which was to be an *appliance* and *not* a computing platform. In particular, this was the movement of computers *away* from being about doing computations and computational research
and recognizing it's value as an assistive technology that disappears into the background, as it does in all good appliances.

This was first demonstrated by Doug Englebart in the "mother of all demos", where his deliberately selected application was managing a
shopping list. When Jobs saw the Alto and its resonance with the vision of the appliance, then this became the mantra for the Lisa and
Macintosh -- to become the thing you do *not* have to be an expert on to use it.

Today, the personal computer is not at all about computing, nor should it be. It is for the following:"
******************

Some replies on the same thread:

***** "This is rich! My life is going to become better by relying on Boinker's "expertise"? Bwhahahahaha! What a fantasy!"

***** "You're and odd person, "Odd Bodkin"[*]. [ *: "God's body!" or "Good God!"]
You know history of the _desktop_ PC, archaic English, physics and woodworking ? !"

***** "Oddball, you know nothing of the history of human society."

IKEA: "Woodworking I know more about than the others. I have wide interests.. Right now, I'm reading a pretty thorough history of the KGB."

IKEA: "In first world countries, the per capita rate for doctors is between 2 and 4 per THOUSAND. There is absolutely no reason for more
doctors or people with medical expertise. It would be a waste of time. Likewise, the number of people with programming skill should
be confined to a pretty small per capita rate, because it is a waste to have more."

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Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> I've read 600 books in the last 10 years.
> I read a book per week.
> I spent 20% of my adult life so far, so I expect to read another 2400 books not written yet.
>
> Bodkin, 2015

The math, the numbers don't seem to fit...

600 books comes out to 60 books a year.

But, a book a week comes out to 52 books a year...

So, when did he read the missing 8 books?

Especially since he doesn't buy books, he borrows them.

What library lets you borrow a book a week?

And what librarian would put up with him every 3 weeks?

i don't get it? the numbers don't agree with Nature.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 06:03 UTC

On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 2:09:19 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> > I've read 600 books in the last 10 years.
> > I read a book per week.
> > I spent 20% of my adult life so far, so I expect to read another 2400 books not written yet.
> >
> > Bodkin, 2015
> The math, the numbers don't seem to fit...
>
> 600 books comes out to 60 books a year.
>
> But, a book a week comes out to 52 books a year...
>
> So, when did he read the missing 8 books?
>
> Especially since he doesn't buy books, he borrows them.
>
>
> What library lets you borrow a book a week?
>
> And what librarian would put up with him every 3 weeks?
>
>
>
> i don't get it? the numbers don't agree with Nature.
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

What if you:

- Own a bookstore, or
- work as an Assistant Professor or HS Teacher, or
- work as an independent SW developer, who hacks and download books for free, or ......

and do any of this from 8 AM to 5 PM, exactly (Central Time, UTC-6 Winter Time), south of 36° latitude?.

Or, anything else that suits for the IKEA man (AKA Bodkin, AKA Boinker, AKA Odds B....., etc.)

Did you know that free VPN providers have a problem because they leak IP addresses? It doesn't happen if you pay a VPN.

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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 06:33 UTC

Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 2:09:19 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > >
> > > I've read 600 books in the last 10 years.
> > > I read a book per week.
> > > I spent 20% of my adult life so far, so I expect to read another 2400 books not written yet.
> > >
> > > Bodkin, 2015
> > The math, the numbers don't seem to fit...
> >
> > 600 books comes out to 60 books a year.
> >
> > But, a book a week comes out to 52 books a year...
> >
> > So, when did he read the missing 8 books?
> >
> > Especially since he doesn't buy books, he borrows them.
> >
> >
> > What library lets you borrow a book a week?
> >
> > And what librarian would put up with him every 3 weeks?
> >
> >
> >
> > i don't get it? the numbers don't agree with Nature.
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> What if you:
>
> - Own a bookstore, or
> - work as an Assistant Professor or HS Teacher, or
> - work as an independent SW developer, who hacks and download books for free, or ......
>
> and do any of this from 8 AM to 5 PM, exactly (Central Time, UTC-6 Winter Time), south of 36° latitude?.
>
> Or, anything else that suits for the IKEA man (AKA Bodkin, AKA Boinker, AKA Odds B....., etc.)
>
> Did you know that free VPN providers have a problem because they leak IP addresses? It doesn't happen if you pay a VPN.

all not plausable...he doesn't 'sound' like he reads a book a week. A person who reads a book a week
has learned new things every week...

there is nothing new coming out of him every week.

he keeps pushing old textbbooks...

Has he ever...in the last 52 weeks mention a new textbook or book?

Or, come up with a 'new' idea?

come on, the dots don't connect.

not plausable

he's fuckin lying.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 06:45 UTC

On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 3:33:12 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 2:09:19 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've read 600 books in the last 10 years.
> > > > I read a book per week.
> > > > I spent 20% of my adult life so far, so I expect to read another 2400 books not written yet.
> > > >
> > > > Bodkin, 2015
> > > The math, the numbers don't seem to fit...
> > >
> > > 600 books comes out to 60 books a year.
> > >
> > > But, a book a week comes out to 52 books a year...
> > >
> > > So, when did he read the missing 8 books?
> > >
> > > Especially since he doesn't buy books, he borrows them.
> > >
> > >
> > > What library lets you borrow a book a week?
> > >
> > > And what librarian would put up with him every 3 weeks?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > i don't get it? the numbers don't agree with Nature.
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > What if you:
> >
> > - Own a bookstore, or
> > - work as an Assistant Professor or HS Teacher, or
> > - work as an independent SW developer, who hacks and download books for free, or ......
> >
> > and do any of this from 8 AM to 5 PM, exactly (Central Time, UTC-6 Winter Time), south of 36° latitude?.
> >
> > Or, anything else that suits for the IKEA man (AKA Bodkin, AKA Boinker, AKA Odds B....., etc.)
> >
> > Did you know that free VPN providers have a problem because they leak IP addresses? It doesn't happen if you pay a VPN.
> all not plausable...he doesn't 'sound' like he reads a book a week. A person who reads a book a week
> has learned new things every week...
>
> there is nothing new coming out of him every week.
>
> he keeps pushing old textbbooks...
>
> Has he ever...in the last 52 weeks mention a new textbook or book?
>
> Or, come up with a 'new' idea?
>
> come on, the dots don't connect.
>
> not plausable
>
>
>
> he's fuckin lying.
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

Bodkin 2015, discussing about IT

***********************
By the way, I have a Mac desktop and iOS tablet, a chromebook and an
Android phablet, a Windows laptop, and a borrowed Linux convertible. I
feel pretty comfortable on all of them.

***********************
Note that as a (partial) Mac user, I have full access to the Mach
kernel, which is in turn FreeBSD plus a lot of NeXTStep, which in turn
has a lot of NetBSD in it. Of course, as a (partial) Windows user, I can
also run DOS line commands if I want. Sometimes that is useful,
especially if I want to add some extra security configurations or do
something dramatic like install Chinese-wall partitions.

***********************
Only with older formats. Since about 2009, MS has used XML output
formats, which are .... not complicated.

***********************
Jobs said, the only way he could curate the best possible experience was
to have a walled garden. This does limit options.

IBM/Microsoft built for openness (which for IBM was a rather amazing
step), but that did lead to a poorer overall user experience. You could
get any software you wanted, but one piece of software didn't look
anything like the next piece of software so you ended up having to
suffer a steep learning curve for any new thing you acquired. Not to
mention silly things like specialized drivers, conflicting drivers,
software that wasn't compatible with current OS releases, etc.

The modern analog for the IBM openness choice is Android. Android is in
some respects a whole lot better than iOS. It is also a freakin'
disaster. Fragmentation is rampant, devices are 99% non-ungradeable, UI
layers on top of UI layers, completely NOT a curated experience. The
only thing that even comes close to a curated experience is when Google
launches a "pristine" Nexus device with the latest version of Android.
These are launched as demos to other providers about what the experience
COULD be like if they didn't fuck with it. So guess which devices
support pure Lollipop today? Nexus.

***********************

Knowing, pretending, copy&modify&paste too much?

The IKEA man is a visionary. Android a wrong choice?, Chinese-wall partitions?.

LOL

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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 07:01 UTC

On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 3:33:12 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> Richard Hertz wrote:

<snip>

> > > What library lets you borrow a book a week?
> > >
> > > And what librarian would put up with him every 3 weeks?

> > What if you:
> >
> > - Own a bookstore, or
> > - work as an Assistant Professor or HS Teacher, or
> > - work as an independent SW developer, who hacks and download books for free, or ......
> >
> > and do any of this from 8 AM to 5 PM, exactly (Central Time, UTC-6 Winter Time), south of 36° latitude?.
> >
> > Or, anything else that suits for the IKEA man (AKA Bodkin, AKA Boinker, AKA Odds B....., etc.)
> >
> > Did you know that free VPN providers have a problem because they leak IP addresses? It doesn't happen if you pay a VPN.
> all not plausable...he doesn't 'sound' like he reads a book a week. A person who reads a book a week
> has learned new things every week...
>
> there is nothing new coming out of him every week.
>
> he keeps pushing old textbbooks...
>
> Has he ever...in the last 52 weeks mention a new textbook or book?
>
> Or, come up with a 'new' idea?
>
> come on, the dots don't connect.
>
> not plausable
>

> he's fuckin lying.

You didn't pay attention to my post. Search a US map with time zones and latitudes, and tell me which are the seven (7)
states that qualify within those parameters.

Now think, going from East to West, which one would you choose to retire?

A LOT of people would jump and say: THIS ONE!

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 12:23 UTC

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> What about this one, from the "IKEA" (I Know Everything of Anything):
>
> Bodkin 2015:
> ******************
> "No. The workstation concept died in the 80's and 90's, along with
> companies like DEC and Silicon Graphics.
>
> The desktop PC is now actually pretty close to the vision of the Xerox
> Alto, which was to be an *appliance* and *not* a computing platform. In
> particular, this was the movement of computers *away* from being about
> doing computations and computational research
> and recognizing it's value as an assistive technology that disappears
> into the background, as it does in all good appliances.
>
> This was first demonstrated by Doug Englebart in the "mother of all
> demos", where his deliberately selected application was managing a
> shopping list. When Jobs saw the Alto and its resonance with the vision
> of the appliance, then this became the mantra for the Lisa and
> Macintosh -- to become the thing you do *not* have to be an expert on to use it.

Yes. You are surprised I know a little history here? Why are you surprised?

>
> Today, the personal computer is not at all about computing, nor should it
> be. It is for the following:"
> ******************
>
> Some replies on the same thread:
>
> ***** "This is rich! My life is going to become better by relying on
> Boinker's "expertise"? Bwhahahahaha! What a fantasy!"
>
> ***** "You're and odd person, "Odd Bodkin"[*]. [ *: "God's body!" or "Good God!"]
> You know history of the _desktop_ PC, archaic English,
> physics and woodworking ? !"

Yes, does this sound like a claim to know everything about anything?

>
> ***** "Oddball, you know nothing of the history of human society."
>
>
> IKEA: "Woodworking I know more about than the others. I have wide
> interests. Right now, I'm reading a pretty thorough history of the KGB."

Yes. Note wide interests. Does this bother you? Think this is disallowed?

>
> IKEA: "In first world countries, the per capita rate for doctors is
> between 2 and 4 per THOUSAND. There is absolutely no reason for more
> doctors or people with medical expertise. It would be a waste
> of time. Likewise, the number of people with programming skill should
> be confined to a pretty small per capita rate, because it is a
> waste to have more."
>
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 12:23 UTC

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 2:09:19 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Richard Hertz wrote:
>>>
>>> I've read 600 books in the last 10 years.
>>> I read a book per week.
>>> I spent 20% of my adult life so far, so I expect to read another 2400
>>> books not written yet.
>>>
>>> Bodkin, 2015
>> The math, the numbers don't seem to fit...
>>
>> 600 books comes out to 60 books a year.
>>
>> But, a book a week comes out to 52 books a year...
>>
>> So, when did he read the missing 8 books?
>>
>> Especially since he doesn't buy books, he borrows them.
>>
>>
>> What library lets you borrow a book a week?
>>
>> And what librarian would put up with him every 3 weeks?
>>
>>
>>
>> i don't get it? the numbers don't agree with Nature.
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> and challenge
>> the unchallengeable.
>
> What if you:
>
> - Own a bookstore, or
> - work as an Assistant Professor or HS Teacher, or
> - work as an independent SW developer, who hacks and download books for free, or ......
>
> and do any of this from 8 AM to 5 PM, exactly (Central Time, UTC-6 Winter
> Time), south of 36° latitude?.

What time is it now?

>
> Or, anything else that suits for the IKEA man (AKA Bodkin, AKA Boinker,
> AKA Odds B....., etc.)
>
> Did you know that free VPN providers have a problem because they leak IP
> addresses? It doesn't happen if you pay a VPN.
>
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 12:43 UTC

On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 9:23:50 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> > and do any of this from 8 AM to 5 PM, exactly (Central Time, UTC-6 Winter
> > Time), south of 36° latitude?.

> What time is it now?

Good morning!

For you: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 06:23:47AM (UTC-6 for you). 07:23:47AM (UTC-5, discounting injection time).

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 13:12 UTC

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 3:33:12 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Richard Hertz wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 2:09:19 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> Richard Hertz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've read 600 books in the last 10 years.
>>>>> I read a book per week.
>>>>> I spent 20% of my adult life so far, so I expect to read another 2400
>>>>> books not written yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bodkin, 2015
>>>> The math, the numbers don't seem to fit...
>>>>
>>>> 600 books comes out to 60 books a year.
>>>>
>>>> But, a book a week comes out to 52 books a year...
>>>>
>>>> So, when did he read the missing 8 books?
>>>>
>>>> Especially since he doesn't buy books, he borrows them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What library lets you borrow a book a week?
>>>>
>>>> And what librarian would put up with him every 3 weeks?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i don't get it? the numbers don't agree with Nature.
>>>> --
>>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>>> and challenge
>>>> the unchallengeable.
>>>
>>> What if you:
>>>
>>> - Own a bookstore, or
>>> - work as an Assistant Professor or HS Teacher, or
>>> - work as an independent SW developer, who hacks and download books for free, or ......
>>>
>>> and do any of this from 8 AM to 5 PM, exactly (Central Time, UTC-6
>>> Winter Time), south of 36° latitude?.
>>>
>>> Or, anything else that suits for the IKEA man (AKA Bodkin, AKA Boinker,
>>> AKA Odds B....., etc.)
>>>
>>> Did you know that free VPN providers have a problem because they leak
>>> IP addresses? It doesn't happen if you pay a VPN.
>> all not plausable...he doesn't 'sound' like he reads a book a week. A
>> person who reads a book a week
>> has learned new things every week...
>>
>> there is nothing new coming out of him every week.
>>
>> he keeps pushing old textbbooks...
>>
>> Has he ever...in the last 52 weeks mention a new textbook or book?
>>
>> Or, come up with a 'new' idea?
>>
>> come on, the dots don't connect.
>>
>> not plausable
>>
>>
>>
>> he's fuckin lying.
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>> the unchallengeable.
>
>
> Bodkin 2015, discussing about IT
>
> ***********************
> By the way, I have a Mac desktop and iOS tablet, a chromebook and an
> Android phablet, a Windows laptop, and a borrowed Linux convertible. I
> feel pretty comfortable on all of them.
>

Yes the above was true. I no longer have the Android phablet. The device I
run Linux on is new.

> ***********************
> Note that as a (partial) Mac user, I have full access to the Mach
> kernel, which is in turn FreeBSD plus a lot of NeXTStep, which in turn
> has a lot of NetBSD in it. Of course, as a (partial) Windows user, I can
> also run DOS line commands if I want. Sometimes that is useful,
> especially if I want to add some extra security configurations or do
> something dramatic like install Chinese-wall partitions.
>

Yes, this is still true.

> ***********************
> Only with older formats. Since about 2009, MS has used XML output
> formats, which are .... not complicated.
>
> ***********************
> Jobs said, the only way he could curate the best possible experience was
> to have a walled garden. This does limit options.
>
> IBM/Microsoft built for openness (which for IBM was a rather amazing
> step), but that did lead to a poorer overall user experience. You could
> get any software you wanted, but one piece of software didn't look
> anything like the next piece of software so you ended up having to
> suffer a steep learning curve for any new thing you acquired. Not to
> mention silly things like specialized drivers, conflicting drivers,
> software that wasn't compatible with current OS releases, etc.
>
> The modern analog for the IBM openness choice is Android. Android is in
> some respects a whole lot better than iOS. It is also a freakin'
> disaster. Fragmentation is rampant, devices are 99% non-ungradeable, UI
> layers on top of UI layers, completely NOT a curated experience. The
> only thing that even comes close to a curated experience is when Google
> launches a "pristine" Nexus device with the latest version of Android.
> These are launched as demos to other providers about what the experience
> COULD be like if they didn't fuck with it. So guess which devices
> support pure Lollipop today? Nexus.

Yes, this is of course now old news and common knowledge. What was your
point again?

>
>
> ***********************
>
> Knowing, pretending, copy&modify&paste too much?
>
> The IKEA man is a visionary. Android a wrong choice?, Chinese-wall partitions?.
>
> LOL
>
>

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 13:12 UTC

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 9:23:50 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>> and do any of this from 8 AM to 5 PM, exactly (Central Time, UTC-6 Winter
>>> Time), south of 36° latitude?.
>
>> What time is it now?
>
>
> Good morning!
>
> For you: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 06:23:47AM (UTC-6 for you). 07:23:47AM
> (UTC-5, discounting injection time).
>
>

And what time of day, local time, do you post?

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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 13:22 UTC

On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 9:23:50 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>> and do any of this from 8 AM to 5 PM, exactly (Central Time, UTC-6 Winter
> >>> Time), south of 36° latitude?.
> >
> >> What time is it now?
> >
> >
> > Good morning!
> >
> > For you: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 06:23:47AM (UTC-6 for you). 07:23:47AM
> > (UTC-5, discounting injection time).
> >
> >
> And what time of day, local time, do you post?
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Bodkin, you just had to google Argentina UTC time!

I'm at UTC-3, summer time. Same time is for Paparios, at Chile.

So, you have to add 3 hours to your local time until Sunday, March 13. Then, you'll have to add only 2 hours until Sunday, November 6.

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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 13:29 UTC

On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 10:22:34 AM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 9:23:50 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > >>> and do any of this from 8 AM to 5 PM, exactly (Central Time, UTC-6 Winter
> > >>> Time), south of 36° latitude?.
> > >
> > >> What time is it now?
> > >
> > >
> > > Good morning!
> > >
> > > For you: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 06:23:47AM (UTC-6 for you). 07:23:47AM
> > > (UTC-5, discounting injection time).
> > >
> > >
> > And what time of day, local time, do you post?
> > --
> > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> Bodkin, you just had to google Argentina UTC time!
>
> I'm at UTC-3, summer time. Same time is for Paparios, at Chile.
>
> So, you have to add 3 hours to your local time until Sunday, March 13. Then, you'll have to add only 2 hours until Sunday, November 6.

You overdid with your comment about Chinese-wall partitions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_wall

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 13:47 UTC

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 9:23:50 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> and do any of this from 8 AM to 5 PM, exactly (Central Time, UTC-6 Winter
>>>>> Time), south of 36° latitude?.
>>>
>>>> What time is it now?
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning!
>>>
>>> For you: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 06:23:47AM (UTC-6 for you). 07:23:47AM
>>> (UTC-5, discounting injection time).
>>>
>>>
>> And what time of day, local time, do you post?
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> Bodkin, you just had to google Argentina UTC time!
>
> I'm at UTC-3, summer time. Same time is for Paparios, at Chile.

That’s not what I asked. When are your posting hours?
If it helps to put this in context, I do use a VPN.
That whole business about the 36th parallel was pretty funny.

>
> So, you have to add 3 hours to your local time until Sunday, March 13.
> Then, you'll have to add only 2 hours until Sunday, November 6.
>
>

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Subject: Re: Philosophy and physics
From: hertz...@gmail.com (Richard Hertz)
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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:09 UTC

On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 10:47:54 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 9:23:50 AM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>>>> and do any of this from 8 AM to 5 PM, exactly (Central Time, UTC-6 Winter
> >>>>> Time), south of 36° latitude?.
> >>>
> >>>> What time is it now?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Good morning!
> >>>
> >>> For you: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 06:23:47AM (UTC-6 for you). 07:23:47AM
> >>> (UTC-5, discounting injection time).
> >>>
> >>>
> >> And what time of day, local time, do you post?
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> > Bodkin, you just had to google Argentina UTC time!
> >
> > I'm at UTC-3, summer time. Same time is for Paparios, at Chile.
> That’s not what I asked. When are your posting hours?
> If it helps to put this in context, I do use a VPN.
> That whole business about the 36th parallel was pretty funny.
> >
> > So, you have to add 3 hours to your local time until Sunday, March 13.
> > Then, you'll have to add only 2 hours until Sunday, November 6.
> >
> >
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

I know that you are using a VPN. The same free VPN that Moroney uses, and probably he taught to you about it since Day 1.

Your relaying node is 46.165.242.75, in Germany. But it does have a catch.

Anyways, I just used critical analysis. Dont worry, your identity is almost safe.

But I advise you to take a visit to Aioe.org NNTP Server, and check:

https://news.aioe.org/

Check TOOLS and also STATISTICS. Just saying. It's a free server and sell contents and user's data. In this way they profit and survive.

And regarding your question, that you repeated: I don't understand what you mean. I post here to the next available NNTP server in
an straight connection. I don't even know where it is. But Argentina, as well Chile, is an small country and almost every gateway to
abroad, at IP level, is located at Santiago and Buenos Aires. It's a classic configuration for star topologies.

US uses mesh topologies, which makes more difficult to understand traffic path, but IPv4 is based on OSPF, so it says all.

Anyways, I'm just trolling you. I was reading historic posts and wanted to see how deep is the database. It goes up to 1993, and I
laugh seen Moroney and Andersen spending half of their lives here. Paul goes back to 1998, minimum, when he was about 46-48.

Incredible readings on the golden period, until Dono appeared by 2006 (LOL)..

I sugest you to try to search discussions like the speed of gravity or speed of electric fields in a pair production.

I have to leave now, for the rest of the day.

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