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 by: WM - Sun, 19 Dec 2021 09:32 UTC

"{{Cantor's}} theory of transfinite numbers; this appears to me as the most admirable blossom of mathematical spirit and really one of the supreme achievements of purely intellectual human activity. [...] No one shall drive us from the paradise which Cantor has created for us. [...] Obviously it is only possible to reach these aims if we succeed in obtaining the complete elucidation about the essence of the infinite." [D. Hilbert: "Über das Unendliche", Mathematische Annalen 95 (1925) pp. 167 & 170]

Hermann Weyl, who in 1930 became Hilbert's successor at the university of Göttingen, said: "The sequence of numbers which grows beyond any stage already reached by passing to the next number, is a manifold of possibilities open towards infinity; it remains forever in the status of creation, but is not a closed realm of things existing in themselves. That we blindly converted one into the other is the true source of our difficulties, including the antinomies – a source of more fundamental nature than Russell's vicious circle principle indicated. Brouwer opened our eyes and made us see how far classical mathematics, nourished by a belief in the 'absolute' that transcends all human possibilities of realization, goes beyond such statements as can claim real meaning and truth founded on evidence." [H. Weyl: "Levels of infinity: Selected writings on mathematics and philosophy", Peter Pesic (ed.), Dover Publications (2012) p. 141]

Paul Bernays, 1934-1939 Hilbert's co-author of "Grundlagen der Mathematik (Foundations of Mathematics)" said: "If we pursue the thought that each real number is defined by an arithmetical law, the idea of the totality of real numbers is no longer indispensable, and the axiom of choice is not at all evident." [P. Bernays: "On Platonism in mathematics" (1934) p. 7]

Wilhelm Ackermann, 1938 Hilbert's co-author of "Grundzüge der theoretischen Logik (Principles of mathematical logic)" said: "The reviewer however cannot follow the author when he speaks of the possibility of a more than countable set of primitive symbols since such a system of names cannot exist." [W. Ackermann: "Review of Leon Henkin: 'The completeness of the first-order functional calculus'", J. Symbolic Logic 15,1 (1950) p. 68]

Kurt Schütte, 1933 Hilbert's last doctoral student, said: "If we define the real numbers in a strictly formal system, where only finite derivations and fixed symbols are permitted, then these real numbers can certainly be enumerated because the formulas and derivations on the basis of their constructive definition are countable." [K. Schütte: "Beweistheorie", Springer (1960)]

Even David Hilbert himself gave a remarkable summary after carefully scrutinizing the infinite: "Finally we will return to our original topic and draw the conclusions of all our investigations about the infinite. On balance the result is this: The infinite is nowhere realized; it is neither present in nature nor admissible as the foundation of our rational thinking – a remarkable harmony of being and thinking." [D. Hilbert: "Über das Unendliche", Mathematische Annalen 95 (1925) p. 190]

Regards, WM

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 by: Logan Mays - Sun, 19 Dec 2021 14:49 UTC

WM wrote:

> "{{Cantor's}} theory of transfinite numbers; this appears to me as the
> most admirable blossom of mathematical spirit and really one of the
> supreme achievements of purely intellectual human activity. [...] No one

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https://www.bitchute.com/video/2paVx6QfXmZw/

" Watching videos, reading articles on internet, maybe going to protests
telling the government you don't like what they are doing 'please stop',
sometimes wearing the masks .. will NOT doing anything to STOP.

Now, when there's a CRIMINAL conspiracy acting, ongoing, that's killing
hundreds of thousands of people, you don't go 'please stop', it's NOT
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You are not gonna stop this by writing letters to your politicians.
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meetings, making it stop. Maybe in small towns it might work, but most
are all bought.

It not gonna happen by legislation. Do you think the globalist haven't
bought all the legislation in the world, and politicians pulling this
out? Judges are certainly not listen to you, they are all bought. It's
not of the LAW level, but the highest level. The globalist never tried
this unless they control all these things.

We are given a lot of FALSO about little occasions, in which someone
intervene and stop something for a time, these certain deadly vaxx are
removed .. so it's absolutely essential that WE ORGANIZE a true
opposition, not a political movement. I don't mean any kind of movement.

I mean WE oppose the criminal conspiracy, and how to stop a criminal
conspiracy is ongoing. There's only ONE WAY. You ARREST the criminals.

Ok, I said this in Nov 2020, and people thought that was great, got a lot
of clocks from it. No it didn't anything, and still are not doing
anything. So stop with 'I have to find a new political movement', 'going
to new political party, organizing the opposition', 'we need a protest to
do this and that'. That's all USELESS. There is only one way to stop
this, and it's TO ARREST THE CRIMINALS.

And it's not gonna happen by going on across the nation and arrest a
criminal. You got to start arrest them locally. And then you have to
spread the arrests. You have to keep them going arresting them all. And
if everyone is bought, you got to arrest them all. You either have to
arrest them for being actively complicit in the genocide of the citizens
of your nation, or you have to arrest them on the SUSPICION of their
actively complicit, or possibly inter_medium on somehow, collaborating
within a conspiracy of genocide of nation.

That's accusations. This an accusation made on NATURAL LAW. If you don't
have any laws in your national constitution, in your state constitution,
your provincial constitution, in your town constitution, authorising
these arrests, you DON'T NEED IT. It's the NATURAL LAW, which is the
RIGHT OF SELF DEFENSE. And the governments exists DEFENDING honest
people, not to EXTERMINATE the citizens. As soon they start acting to
exterminate the citizens, gravely injure, kill many, or sterilize, that's
part of the population, NATURAL LAW PREVAILS. All human laws takes a step
back, the Natural have right to defend, and every citizen has the RIGHT
to arrest these people.

You have the right to even to kill them, but you don't need to go that
far. Arrest is sufficient. Arrest them all, and you charge them all. You
don't have to hang them, try them, or anything. You arrest them all. Once
they're all arrested, and your government are all in prison, then you
hold new elections and let the new government decide what to do with
them. This is the democratic peaceful way of doing it.

So, since that is the only solution, you are wasting ALL your time, not
even knowing where your problem is, doing anything else, even going to
work. Now people need work to support them self, but you are going to be
dead unless you arrest these people. Your children will be dead, your
parents will be dead, an you gonna be dead.

So why sitting on way thinking 'I need a plane to flee, I need some guns
to defend myself and the house ..'. Why waiting for the threat to come to
you? You need to take JUSTICE to them. You need to hunt the hunters,
okay? So all you need is to get the people who had been red-pilled in a
way, in your town. Get a cancel meeting, get a plan on how to arrest
them. The major, the chief of police, all he police, the judges, everyone
in the town doing the vaxxing, the doctors, arrest them all. And put them
in the town or county jail.

And when you are done liberating your town, hold an election, and elect
new leaders who are against it. Raise a coalition and go arrest the
people your nearest town. And spread the liberties.

This is the easiest, the simplest and the only solution. And it's not
gonna stop any other way, because the globalists can buy everyone in
town. And everyone right now want to be liberated from this thing, so the
people are gonna back you. And the media can't follow up what's going on
all the time. So this is the weak underbelly of the 'great reset'. And if
you don't start doing it, you will be dead.

So, wake up and start really opposing the 'great reset'. And ORGANIZE and
EXECUTE the arrest of everyone involved in your town. That's the way to
go about it. That's the ONLY way to go about it. "

I would add, the TV, radio and the mainstream media are to come among the
very first. That's how they enslaved the eastern europe and other
countries. The TV and the media among the firsts.

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 by: Serg io - Sun, 19 Dec 2021 15:37 UTC

On 12/19/2021 3:32 AM, WM wrote:
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> 1930 became Hilbert's successor
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> Paul Bernays, 1934-1939

>" (1934) p. 7]
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> Wilhelm Ackermann, 1938
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> Kurt Schütte, 1933
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> (1925) p. 190]
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> Regards, WM

90 year old opinions...

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