JanPB wrote:

>> You certainly failed the invented *eugenicist* IQ-test, in your try to
>> emigrate to america or cacanada, you disgusting subhuman excrement.
>
> And now I've reduced you to a babbling idiot with no arguments, just
> personal attacks.
> Again, the bottom line is that it's Putin who attacked Ukraine. It is
> Putin who is bombing hospitals there. You can twist in pretzels all you
> want over this, it will change nothing.

You deplorable nazi excrement, stop snipping the facts, proving the nazi hoaxes. The russians just saved your ass, for free, from about a more than 15 *bio_weapon_labs*, killing your agriculture, pigs, chicken etc by swine-flu, chicken-flu, to begin with, then ethnic targeted TB and so on.

Here's you hospital, you corrupt nazi idiot.

Interview with Marianna Vyshemirskaya
https://youtu.be/f0rqHB41__A

here are the people saying it

Residents of #Mariupol - those who managed to escape the clutches of the Neo-Nazis - tells the TRUTH
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wd6FKJCLuwG6/

Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

In 2008, the massacres which were committed by the Ukrainian nationalists
against the Poles in Volhynia and Galicia were described by Poland's
Institute of National Remembrance as bearing the distinct characteristics
of a genocide,[14][15] and on 22 July 2016, the Parliament of Poland
passed a resolution recognizing the massacres as genocide.[16][17] This
classification is disputed by Ukraine and non-Polish historians. According
to a 2016 article in Slavic Review, there is a "scholarly consensus that
this was a case of ethnic cleansing as opposed to genocide".[18]

❌What Ukraine is Hiding ❌ https://www.bitchute.com/video/tqRoHbjzmwCE/

Russian Forces RETREAT From Kyiv as Ukraine Regains the City, Zelensky
Declares Total War https://www.bitchute.com/video/bnAI8mb9uuU/

On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 5:25:24 PM UTC-7, Vance Rera wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
>
> >> You certainly failed the invented *eugenicist* IQ-test, in your try to
> >> emigrate to america or cacanada, you disgusting subhuman excrement.
> >
> > And now I've reduced you to a babbling idiot with no arguments, just
> > personal attacks.
> > Again, the bottom line is that it's Putin who attacked Ukraine. It is
> > Putin who is bombing hospitals there. You can twist in pretzels all you
> > want over this, it will change nothing.
> You deplorable nazi excrement, stop snipping the facts, proving the nazi hoaxes.

Again, the bottom line is that it's Putin who attacked Ukraine and is bombing
hospitals, women and children. You can scream all you want.
(BTW, I agreed with you about the Nazi element twice already (a fact you
conveniently ignore)).

Putin now knows he is a hairline away from sharing the fate of Ceausescu who
made the same classic dumb mistakes as he. It will be a happy end for him if it
all ends with just the military escorting him from the Kremlin at the gunpoint.

Has anyone noticed that pathetic meeting Putin had with his advisors
few days before the invasion? It was on TV, he was sitting 20 metres away
from them and proudly *scolded* in public a couple of them when they tried
to say something he didn't like to hear, making fun of them stammering.
He thought he was showing his TV audience how big his dick was but it was
in fact exactly the kind of thing that has finally caught up with him.

Too bad Russians are paying for all this, it's always the people who suffer.

--
Jan

Am 03.04.2022 um 14:38 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>> Am 01.04.2022 um 09:39 schrieb JanPB:
>>> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 10:37:59 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>> Am 31.03.2022 um 09:14 schrieb JanPB:
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 11:04:11 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>> Am 30.03.2022 um 20:08 schrieb JanPB:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But I have not dealt with these equations, because I disliked Einstein's
>>>>>>>>>>>> subtraction of magnetic field strength from electric field strength, anyhow.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's nothing peculiar to Einstein, it's the Gaussian system of units.
>>>>>>>>>> I have actually problems with subtracting electric field strength from
>>>>>>>>>> magnetic field strength.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is like subtracting 1 V from 1 A.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To me this doesn't make any sense at all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's your problem then. If you want to resolve this, you must
>>>>>>>>> learn how various systems of units work.
>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the cgs system electric field strength and magnetic field strength
>>>>>>>> have the same unit of force, because the fields were equated with the
>>>>>>>> process of measuring them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These measuring devices contained deformable springs, which measure a force.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Such springs are contained in many analog measuring devices, like a
>>>>>>>> pressure gauge, a cithen balance or a volt-meter.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All of them measure something by a reference to a deformable spring.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But you cannot subtract Volts from psi, just because both were measured
>>>>>>>> with a deformable spring.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To do so would require a physical justification, which was entirely
>>>>>>>> missing in Einstein's text.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, this is how units of systems work (Gaussian, in this case).
>>>>>> I have given you already the example, that many anolg measuring devices
>>>>>> work with deformable springs, which emasure ultimatively a force.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But still you must not add or subtract different units,
>>>>>
>>>>> They are not different units in the Gaussian system.
>>>>>
>>>>>> like pressure
>>>>>> and weigth,
>>>>>
>>>>> N/A. Learn about X if you want to discuss X (esp. if you want to
>>>>> criticise X).
>>>>>
>>>>>> for instance, even if a pressure gauge and a kitchen scale
>>>>>> work with a spring.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is fantastically stupid nonsese to even advocate such use of values.
>>>>>
>>>>> No. You simply don't understand how this works. Some people, when
>>>>> they don't understand something, tend to blame everyone but themselves
>>>>> for this. I cannot fix this problem for you.
>>>> I understand, that magnetic field and electric field have different
>>>> effects, hence are different things, even if related.
>>>>
>>>> So: I cannot subtract 1 amp from 1 Volt, because that does not make much
>>>> more sense then subtraction weigth from pressure.
>>>
>>> You don't subtract 1 A from 1 V.
>>
>>
>> Electric field strength (commonly called 'E') was subtracted from
>> magnetic field strength (commonly called 'H') by Einstein.
>>
>> E has [V/m] as units and H has [A/m].
>
> How about in cgs units? You know about those?

Do you really want to defend the same idocities as Einstein?

(Einstein wrote something like things would change if the definitions
were changed.)

But, in fact, there is the demand, that definitions should fit to the
object which is defined.

In case of the magnetic field strength we would like magnets to create
such a field.

For the electric fields we certainly like to include static electric
fields into the definition.

Now the question: how can you subtract a static electric field from a
static magnetic field in any reasonable way?

....

TH

Am 03.04.2022 um 21:42 schrieb Michael Moroney:

>>>> I understand, that magnetic field and electric field have different
>>>> effects, hence are different things, even if related.
>>>>
>>>> So: I cannot subtract 1 amp from 1 Volt, because that does not make
>>>> much
>>>> more sense then subtraction weigth from pressure.
>>>
>>> You don't subtract 1 A from 1 V.
>>
>>
>> Electric field strength (commonly called 'E') was subtracted from
>> magnetic field strength (commonly called 'H') by Einstein.
>>
>> E has [V/m] as units and H has [A/m].
>>
>> To subtract E from H would mean [A/m - V/m] =[(A - V)/m].
>>
>> (Einstein used only the X-components called 'N' and 'Y', which should
>> have similar units, nevertheless. The used phrase 'force' instead of
>> 'field strength' was actually wrong.)
>>
>> Now ... ..(N - v/c*Y)... contains an illegal operation, because it
>> requires to subtract Volts from Amps. (sorry: I wrote it the other way
>> round, but that does not matter, because subtraction is also a form of
>> addition).
>>
>> I have complained about this operation and you are still not able to
>> justify that by other means then by referencing to the same units used
>> in the cgs system.
>
> The Gaussian/CGS system uses different definitions for electric and
> magnetic fields. Both are defined as force per unit charge.
>
> The magnetic field also needs a speed/velocity component, but CGS uses a
> _ratio_ of v/c which is unitless. Since both the magnetic and electric
> fields have the same units, they can be added or subtracted from each
> other.

I'm totally speachless!

No!!!

In physics you cannot randomly add or subtract numbers, just because
they have no or the same units!

In physics you have always real physical systems, which need to
correspond to the numbers in some way.

Here we have electric and magnetic field strength, which the cgs-system
unfortunately measures with the same units.

But to add or subtract these values would require, to add or subtract
those fields, what you cannot do (at least should not do).

TH

On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 10:14:20 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 03.04.2022 um 14:38 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
> > Thomas Heger <ttt...@web.de> wrote:
> >> Am 01.04.2022 um 09:39 schrieb JanPB:
> >>> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 10:37:59 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>>> Am 31.03.2022 um 09:14 schrieb JanPB:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 11:04:11 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>>>>> Am 30.03.2022 um 20:08 schrieb JanPB:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> But I have not dealt with these equations, because I disliked Einstein's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> subtraction of magnetic field strength from electric field strength, anyhow.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It's nothing peculiar to Einstein, it's the Gaussian system of units.
> >>>>>>>>>> I have actually problems with subtracting electric field strength from
> >>>>>>>>>> magnetic field strength.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> This is like subtracting 1 V from 1 A.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> To me this doesn't make any sense at all.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That's your problem then. If you want to resolve this, you must
> >>>>>>>>> learn how various systems of units work.
> >>>>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In the cgs system electric field strength and magnetic field strength
> >>>>>>>> have the same unit of force, because the fields were equated with the
> >>>>>>>> process of measuring them.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> These measuring devices contained deformable springs, which measure a force.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Such springs are contained in many analog measuring devices, like a
> >>>>>>>> pressure gauge, a cithen balance or a volt-meter.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All of them measure something by a reference to a deformable spring.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> But you cannot subtract Volts from psi, just because both were measured
> >>>>>>>> with a deformable spring.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To do so would require a physical justification, which was entirely
> >>>>>>>> missing in Einstein's text.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No, this is how units of systems work (Gaussian, in this case).
> >>>>>> I have given you already the example, that many anolg measuring devices
> >>>>>> work with deformable springs, which emasure ultimatively a force.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But still you must not add or subtract different units,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> They are not different units in the Gaussian system.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> like pressure
> >>>>>> and weigth,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> N/A. Learn about X if you want to discuss X (esp. if you want to
> >>>>> criticise X).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> for instance, even if a pressure gauge and a kitchen scale
> >>>>>> work with a spring.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is fantastically stupid nonsese to even advocate such use of values.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No. You simply don't understand how this works. Some people, when
> >>>>> they don't understand something, tend to blame everyone but themselves
> >>>>> for this. I cannot fix this problem for you.
> >>>> I understand, that magnetic field and electric field have different
> >>>> effects, hence are different things, even if related.
> >>>>
> >>>> So: I cannot subtract 1 amp from 1 Volt, because that does not make much
> >>>> more sense then subtraction weigth from pressure.
> >>>
> >>> You don't subtract 1 A from 1 V.
> >>
> >>
> >> Electric field strength (commonly called 'E') was subtracted from
> >> magnetic field strength (commonly called 'H') by Einstein.
> >>
> >> E has [V/m] as units and H has [A/m].
> >
> > How about in cgs units? You know about those?
> Do you really want to defend the same idocities as Einstein?
>
> (Einstein wrote something like things would change if the definitions
> were changed.)
>
>
> But, in fact, there is the demand, that definitions should fit to the
> object which is defined.
>
> In case of the magnetic field strength we would like magnets to create
> such a field.
>
> For the electric fields we certainly like to include static electric
> fields into the definition.
>
> Now the question: how can you subtract a static electric field from a
> static magnetic field in any reasonable way?

Again, in the Gaussian system their units are both force per charge.
Einstein does not enter into this.

--
Jan

Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 01.04.2022 um 09:39 schrieb JanPB:
> > On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 10:37:59 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >> Am 31.03.2022 um 09:14 schrieb JanPB:
> >>> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 11:04:11 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>>> Am 30.03.2022 um 20:08 schrieb JanPB:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But I have not dealt with these equations, because I disliked
> >>>>>>>>>> Einstein's subtraction of magnetic field strength from electric
> >>>>>>>>>> field strength, anyhow.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It's nothing peculiar to Einstein, it's the Gaussian system of
> >>>>>>>>>units.
> >>>>>>>> I have actually problems with subtracting electric field strength
> >>>>>>>> from magnetic field strength.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This is like subtracting 1 V from 1 A.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To me this doesn't make any sense at all.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That's your problem then. If you want to resolve this, you must
> >>>>>>> learn how various systems of units work.
> >>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In the cgs system electric field strength and magnetic field strength
> >>>>>> have the same unit of force, because the fields were equated with the
> >>>>>> process of measuring them.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> These measuring devices contained deformable springs, which measure
> >>>>>>a force.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Such springs are contained in many analog measuring devices, like a
> >>>>>> pressure gauge, a cithen balance or a volt-meter.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All of them measure something by a reference to a deformable spring.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But you cannot subtract Volts from psi, just because both were measured
> >>>>>> with a deformable spring.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To do so would require a physical justification, which was entirely
> >>>>>> missing in Einstein's text.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No, this is how units of systems work (Gaussian, in this case).
> >>>> I have given you already the example, that many anolg measuring devices
> >>>> work with deformable springs, which emasure ultimatively a force.
> >>>>
> >>>> But still you must not add or subtract different units,
> >>>
> >>> They are not different units in the Gaussian system.
> >>>
> >>>> like pressure
> >>>> and weigth,
> >>>
> >>> N/A. Learn about X if you want to discuss X (esp. if you want to
> >>> criticise X).
> >>>
> >>>> for instance, even if a pressure gauge and a kitchen scale
> >>>> work with a spring.
> >>>>
> >>>> It is fantastically stupid nonsese to even advocate such use of values.
> >>>
> >>> No. You simply don't understand how this works. Some people, when
> >>> they don't understand something, tend to blame everyone but themselves
> >>> for this. I cannot fix this problem for you.
> >> I understand, that magnetic field and electric field have different
> >> effects, hence are different things, even if related.
> >>
> >> So: I cannot subtract 1 amp from 1 Volt, because that does not make much
> >> more sense then subtraction weigth from pressure.
> >
> > You don't subtract 1 A from 1 V.
>
>
> Electric field strength (commonly called 'E') was subtracted from
> magnetic field strength (commonly called 'H') by Einstein.
>
> E has [V/m] as units and H has [A/m].
>
> To subtract E from H would mean [A/m - V/m] =[(A - V)/m].
>
> (Einstein used only the X-components called 'N' and 'Y', which should
> have similar units, nevertheless. The used phrase 'force' instead of
> 'field strength' was actually wrong.)
>
> Now ... ..(N - v/c*Y)... contains an illegal operation, because it
> requires to subtract Volts from Amps. (sorry: I wrote it the other way
> round, but that does not matter, because subtraction is also a form of
> addition).

So that is the level of the 'errors' you discovered in Einstein 1905.
All you demonstate with it is your own utter incompetence in physics,

Jan

Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 03.04.2022 um 21:42 schrieb Michael Moroney:
>
> >>>> I understand, that magnetic field and electric field have different
> >>>> effects, hence are different things, even if related.
> >>>>
> >>>> So: I cannot subtract 1 amp from 1 Volt, because that does not make
> >>>> much
> >>>> more sense then subtraction weigth from pressure.
> >>>
> >>> You don't subtract 1 A from 1 V.
> >>
> >>
> >> Electric field strength (commonly called 'E') was subtracted from
> >> magnetic field strength (commonly called 'H') by Einstein.
> >>
> >> E has [V/m] as units and H has [A/m].
> >>
> >> To subtract E from H would mean [A/m - V/m] =[(A - V)/m].
> >>
> >> (Einstein used only the X-components called 'N' and 'Y', which should
> >> have similar units, nevertheless. The used phrase 'force' instead of
> >> 'field strength' was actually wrong.)
> >>
> >> Now ... ..(N - v/c*Y)... contains an illegal operation, because it
> >> requires to subtract Volts from Amps. (sorry: I wrote it the other way
> >> round, but that does not matter, because subtraction is also a form of
> >> addition).
> >>
> >> I have complained about this operation and you are still not able to
> >> justify that by other means then by referencing to the same units used
> >> in the cgs system.
> >
> > The Gaussian/CGS system uses different definitions for electric and
> > magnetic fields. Both are defined as force per unit charge.
> >
> > The magnetic field also needs a speed/velocity component, but CGS uses a
> > _ratio_ of v/c which is unitless. Since both the magnetic and electric
> > fields have the same units, they can be added or subtracted from each
> > other.
>
> I'm totally speachless!

That is a completely incredible statement.
If true, stop posting your nonsense.

> No!!!
>
> In physics you cannot randomly add or subtract numbers, just because
> they have no or the same units!

Physical quantities do not *have* units or dimensions.
Units and dimensions are *assigned* human constructs.
The only constraint upon units and dimension is
that the system must be consistent.

> In physics you have always real physical systems, which need to
> correspond to the numbers in some way.
>
> Here we have electric and magnetic field strength, which the cgs-system
> unfortunately measures with the same units.

Fortunately. The cgs system, or better, Heaviside-Lorentz units,
reflect physical reality.
It is still the system of choice for doing fundametal physics,
with c=\hbar=1 (called natural units)
The SI system introduced extra unphysical constants.

From first priciples it is immediately obvious
that E and B are the same kind of thing,
for they transform into each other under Lorentz.

> But to add or subtract these values would require, to add or subtract
> those fields, what you cannot do (at least should not do).

Your confusion no doubt result from an SI-only education.

It is actually the SI fields which are unphysical.
The real physical fields are E / \sqrt(\eps_0) and \sqrt(\mu_0) * B

The physical fields have the same dimension,

Jan

nazi excrement JanPB failed the eugenicist IQ-test:

>> You deplorable nazi excrement, stop snipping the facts, proving the
>> nazi hoaxes.
>
> Again, the bottom line is that it's Putin who attacked Ukraine and is

You keep snipping evidences, you stinking nazi_excrement. That woman was published in all newspapers in the "west". Then she came out telling the truth, no jets, just two bombs outside the hospital, where after "journalists" were there in 10 minutes, similar the mercenary "white_helmets" hoaxing the "chemical_atack" in Syria, being there *in_minutes* "saving" people from the fake attack.

You stinking excrement, you slavic_germans are all nazi *excrement*. The fictitious "ukraine" was taken over by the nazis in 2014, killing people in Odessa and the east since then. About 100 people burned alive in a government building in Odessa 2014.

You certainly failed the eugenicist IQ-test, to emigrate to america or cacanada. Read along.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes
46 anti-Maidan and two pro-Maidan activists died and over 200 people were injured as a result of the confrontations. (what they say)

Witness Describes How the nazi NATO Lie Machine Staged the Mariupol Hospital...
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/02/blockbuster-witness-describes-how-the-nato-lie-machine-staged-the-mariupol-hospital-attack-white-helmets-style/
https://youtu.be/f0rqHB41__A Listen to Marianna Vyshemirskaya tell about
how the new “White Helmets” used her to stage a fake Russian bombing…one
they staged themselves with their own explosives just like done in Syria
with Israeli help over and over and over…bombs, gas, no gas, kidnapped
kids and doctors at gunpoint…

Iskander Missile Wipes Out Kharkiv Merc Compound, 100+ Foreign Fighters
Dead
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/02/iskander-missile-wipes-out-kharkiv-merc-compound-100-foreign-fighters-dead/
“As a result of a high-precision strike with th e Iskander
operational-tactical complex on the defense headquarters in the city of
Kharkiv on March 31, the elimination of more than 100 nationalists and
mercenaries from Western countries was confirmed,” Konashenkov said.
The Russian MoD released footage of the pinpoint strike, which was
apparently carried out with an Iskander-K cruise missile.

Ukraine: Who Are the Americans Running Bioweapons Research?
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/01/ukraine-who-are-the-americans-running-bioweapons-research/
Emails published by the MoD revealed she directly supervised experiments
with deadly pathogens, including the UP-2 Project for “mapping highly
infectious diseases in Ukraine,” including anthrax; the UP-4 Project,
described as a “risk assessment of particularly dangerous pathogens
transmitted by birds in Ukraine during migration”; the UP-8 Project
studying “spread of Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever virus and hantaviruses
in Ukraine and the potential need for differential diagnosis of patients
with suspected leptospirosis. Previously released documents showed she
also oversaw Project P-782, conducting research into the transmission of
diseases through bats.

Russia Vows to Target British Weapons Being Supplied to *Nazis* in Ukraine
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/02/russia-vows-to-target-british-weapons-being-supplied-to-nazis-in-ukraine/
Ambassador to the UK, Andrey Kelin, said in an interview with the TASS
news agency on April 2.
“All arms supplies are destabilizing, particularly those mentioned by [UK
Defense Secretary Ben] Wallace,” Kelin said. “They exacerbate the
situation, making it even bloodier. Apparently, those are new,
high-precision weapons. Naturally, our armed forces will view them as a
legitimate target if those supplies get through the Ukrainian border.”

British intelligence notified Zelensky how the eastern grouping of the
Armed Forces of Ukraine will be destroyed – source
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/02/british-intelligence-notified-zelensky-how-the-eastern-grouping-of-the-armed-forces-of-ukraine-will-be-destroyed-source/

‘Mengele of Ukraine’, Now Russian Captive, Begs Her Nazi Friends to
Release Mariupol Hostages
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/02/mengele-of-ukraine-now-russian-captive-begs-her-nazi-friends-to-release-mariupol-hostages/
She wanted to escape from Mariupol along the humanitarian corridor,
dressed in civilian clothes and mingled with the locals. Didn’t work out,
figured it out!
Her grandfather was a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, and since 2014
she has been helping Hitler’s followers exclusively. Started with a coup
d’état on the Maidan. Then, in pursuit of thrills, she went to the ATO,
and created her own “peaceful” division – “Angels of Tyra”.

It Begins: Bioweapon Infected Phony Cash Scattered Over School in Lugansk
(censored)
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/02/breaking-us-tested-asian-tuberculosis-bioweapon-on-lugansk-school-children/
In the area of ​​​​one of the schools in 2020, counterfeit banknotes were
thrown out, the study of which showed that they were infected with the
Asian strain of tuberculosis About Biolabs

As the official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Major
General Igor Konashenkov, said earlier, during a special military
operation, the facts of an emergency cleansing by the Kiev regime of
traces of a military biological program being implemented in Ukraine,
funded by the US Department of Defense, were revealed. According to him,
information was received from employees of Ukrainian biological
laboratories about the emergency destruction of especially dangerous
pathogens on February 24: plague, anthrax, tularemia, cholera, and other
deadly diseases.

On March 9, Victoria Nuland, speaking at a hearing in the Foreign
Relations Committee of the Senate of the US Congress, admitted that there
are objects in Ukraine where research in the field of biology is carried
out, Washington is trying to prevent them from falling under the control
of the Russian forces.

According to her, the State Department is “concerned that the Russian
military may be trying to take control of them,” and is working with the
Ukrainian side to ensure that Kyiv can “prevent any of these research
materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces.” In response, the
Russian Defense Ministry noted that with these words it confirmed the
participation of the Pentagon in military biological programs in Ukraine.

Here is an imbecile, destroying his once prosperous wannabe
communist country, now a shithole fucked up by western liberal capitalism.
Void of people able to work, emigrated as slaves to the fake_money west.
Hard learning the lesson, but they will.

Deputy Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski says stationing US nukes in
eastern Europe would “make sense”
https://www.rt.com/news/553214-polish-official-wants-us-nukes-eastern-europe/
“fundamentally, it makes sense to expand nuclear sharing to the eastern flank,” meaning, bombing Russia, their brother folk.

khazar Madeleine Albright’s Epitaph: “Half a Million Dead Children? We Think The
Lie It’s Worth It”
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/03/23/madeleine-albrights-epitaph-half-a-million-dead-children-we-think-its-worth-it/

Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> Am 03.04.2022 um 14:38 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>> Am 01.04.2022 um 09:39 schrieb JanPB:
>>>> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 10:37:59 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>> Am 31.03.2022 um 09:14 schrieb JanPB:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 11:04:11 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>> Am 30.03.2022 um 20:08 schrieb JanPB:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I have not dealt with these equations, because I disliked Einstein's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> subtraction of magnetic field strength from electric field strength, anyhow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's nothing peculiar to Einstein, it's the Gaussian system of units.
>>>>>>>>>>> I have actually problems with subtracting electric field strength from
>>>>>>>>>>> magnetic field strength.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is like subtracting 1 V from 1 A.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To me this doesn't make any sense at all.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's your problem then. If you want to resolve this, you must
>>>>>>>>>> learn how various systems of units work.
>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the cgs system electric field strength and magnetic field strength
>>>>>>>>> have the same unit of force, because the fields were equated with the
>>>>>>>>> process of measuring them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These measuring devices contained deformable springs, which measure a force.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Such springs are contained in many analog measuring devices, like a
>>>>>>>>> pressure gauge, a cithen balance or a volt-meter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All of them measure something by a reference to a deformable spring.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But you cannot subtract Volts from psi, just because both were measured
>>>>>>>>> with a deformable spring.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To do so would require a physical justification, which was entirely
>>>>>>>>> missing in Einstein's text.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, this is how units of systems work (Gaussian, in this case).
>>>>>>> I have given you already the example, that many anolg measuring devices
>>>>>>> work with deformable springs, which emasure ultimatively a force.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But still you must not add or subtract different units,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are not different units in the Gaussian system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like pressure
>>>>>>> and weigth,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> N/A. Learn about X if you want to discuss X (esp. if you want to
>>>>>> criticise X).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for instance, even if a pressure gauge and a kitchen scale
>>>>>>> work with a spring.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is fantastically stupid nonsese to even advocate such use of values.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. You simply don't understand how this works. Some people, when
>>>>>> they don't understand something, tend to blame everyone but themselves
>>>>>> for this. I cannot fix this problem for you.
>>>>> I understand, that magnetic field and electric field have different
>>>>> effects, hence are different things, even if related.
>>>>>
>>>>> So: I cannot subtract 1 amp from 1 Volt, because that does not make much
>>>>> more sense then subtraction weigth from pressure.
>>>>
>>>> You don't subtract 1 A from 1 V.
>>>
>>>
>>> Electric field strength (commonly called 'E') was subtracted from
>>> magnetic field strength (commonly called 'H') by Einstein.
>>>
>>> E has [V/m] as units and H has [A/m].
>>
>> How about in cgs units? You know about those?
>
> Do you really want to defend the same idocities as Einstein?

I don’t think systems of units are idiocies.

Why do you think that anything other than SI units are idiocies?

>
> (Einstein wrote something like things would change if the definitions
> were changed.)
>
>
> But, in fact, there is the demand, that definitions should fit to the
> object which is defined.
>
> In case of the magnetic field strength we would like magnets to create
> such a field.
>
> For the electric fields we certainly like to include static electric
> fields into the definition.
>
> Now the question: how can you subtract a static electric field from a
> static magnetic field in any reasonable way?
>
> ...
>
> TH
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> Am 03.04.2022 um 21:42 schrieb Michael Moroney:
>
>>>>> I understand, that magnetic field and electric field have different
>>>>> effects, hence are different things, even if related.
>>>>>
>>>>> So: I cannot subtract 1 amp from 1 Volt, because that does not make
>>>>> much
>>>>> more sense then subtraction weigth from pressure.
>>>>
>>>> You don't subtract 1 A from 1 V.
>>>
>>>
>>> Electric field strength (commonly called 'E') was subtracted from
>>> magnetic field strength (commonly called 'H') by Einstein.
>>>
>>> E has [V/m] as units and H has [A/m].
>>>
>>> To subtract E from H would mean [A/m - V/m] =[(A - V)/m].
>>>
>>> (Einstein used only the X-components called 'N' and 'Y', which should
>>> have similar units, nevertheless. The used phrase 'force' instead of
>>> 'field strength' was actually wrong.)
>>>
>>> Now ... ..(N - v/c*Y)... contains an illegal operation, because it
>>> requires to subtract Volts from Amps. (sorry: I wrote it the other way
>>> round, but that does not matter, because subtraction is also a form of
>>> addition).
>>>
>>> I have complained about this operation and you are still not able to
>>> justify that by other means then by referencing to the same units used
>>> in the cgs system.
>>
>> The Gaussian/CGS system uses different definitions for electric and
>> magnetic fields. Both are defined as force per unit charge.
>>
>> The magnetic field also needs a speed/velocity component, but CGS uses a
>> _ratio_ of v/c which is unitless. Since both the magnetic and electric
>> fields have the same units, they can be added or subtracted from each
>> other.
>
> I'm totally speachless!
>
> No!!!
>
> In physics you cannot randomly add or subtract numbers, just because
> they have no or the same units!

Well, actually, if two numbers have no units, yes, absolutely you can add
or subtract them. As in, 1-v/c.

>
> In physics you have always real physical systems, which need to
> correspond to the numbers in some way.

Yes, and there are different systems of units, which you don’t seem to be
familiar with.

>
> Here we have electric and magnetic field strength, which the cgs-system
> unfortunately measures with the same units.
>
> But to add or subtract these values would require, to add or subtract
> those fields, what you cannot do (at least should not do).

Depends on the system of units.

>
> TH
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 5:30:37 AM UTC-7, Hagan Koon wrote:
> nazi excrement JanPB failed the eugenicist IQ-test:
> >> You deplorable nazi excrement, stop snipping the facts, proving the
> >> nazi hoaxes.
> >
> > Again, the bottom line is that it's Putin who attacked Ukraine and is
> You keep snipping evidences, you stinking nazi_excrement. That woman was published in all newspapers in the "west". Then she came out telling the truth, no jets, just two bombs outside the hospital, where after "journalists" were there in 10 minutes, similar the mercenary "white_helmets" hoaxing the "chemical_atack" in Syria, being there *in_minutes* "saving" people from the fake attack.
>
> You stinking excrement, you slavic_germans are all nazi *excrement*. The fictitious "ukraine" was taken over by the nazis in 2014, killing people in Odessa and the east since then. About 100 people burned alive in a government building in Odessa 2014.

Since you are just repeating stuff which I never denied or affirmed anyway,
we might as well stop this. Point being none of this justifies bombing
hospitals, etc. Life is complicated and Putin turned out to be an
incompetent fool and a mass murderer in the end. I'm done.

--
Jan

JanPB wrote:

>> > Again, the bottom line is that it's Putin who attacked Ukraine and is
>> You keep snipping evidences, you stinking nazi_excrement. That woman
>> was published in all newspapers in the "west". Then she came out
>> telling the truth, no jets, just two bombs outside the hospital, where
>> after "journalists" were there in 10 minutes, similar the mercenary
>> "white_helmets" hoaxing the "chemical_atack" in Syria, being there
>> *in_minutes* "saving" people from the fake attack.
>> You stinking excrement, you slavic_germans are all nazi *excrement*.
>> The fictitious "ukraine" was taken over by the nazis in 2014, killing
>> people in Odessa and the east since then. About 100 people burned alive
>> in a government building in Odessa 2014.
>
> Since you are just repeating stuff which I never denied or affirmed
> anyway,

This must be the reason you delete the given data, proving you a nazi
bitch. You lying little nazi excrement. I never know it was this bad. Most
likely the shithole polakia will be divided small pieces, given back to
the countries is been stolen from.

Read this paper. Lots of data.

The virus of Nazism is rampant in today's #Ukraine. ❓Who is behind that
❓ Who is responsible fo https://www.bitchute.com/video/98KTKBipqgHt/

Proof Of False Flag - Video Shows “Bucha Massacre” Dead Bodies Moving
Around https://www.bitchute.com/video/jgK3TvsUoKCk/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes 46 anti-Maidan and two
pro-Maidan activists died and over 200 people were injured as a result of
the confrontations. (what they say)

Witness Describes How the nazi NATO Lie Machine Staged the Mariupol
Hospital...
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/02/blockbuster-witness-describes-
how-the-nato-lie-machine-staged-the-mariupol-hospital-attack-white-
helmets-style/
https://youtu.be/f0rqHB41__A Listen to Marianna Vyshemirskaya tell about
how the new “White Helmets” used her to stage a fake Russian bombing…one
they staged themselves with their own explosives just like done in Syria
with Israeli help over and over and over…bombs, gas, no gas, kidnapped
kids and doctors at gunpoint…

Iskander Missile Wipes Out Kharkiv Merc Compound, 100+ Foreign Fighters
Dead
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/02/iskander-missile-wipes-out-
kharkiv-merc-compound-100-foreign-fighters-dead/
“As a result of a high-precision strike with th e Iskander
operational-tactical complex on the defense headquarters in the city of
Kharkiv on March 31, the elimination of more than 100 nationalists and
mercenaries from Western countries was confirmed,” Konashenkov said.
The Russian MoD released footage of the pinpoint strike, which was
apparently carried out with an Iskander-K cruise missile.

Ukraine: Who Are the Americans Running Bioweapons Research?
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/01/ukraine-who-are-the-americans-
running-bioweapons-research/
Emails published by the MoD revealed she directly supervised experiments
with deadly pathogens, including the UP-2 Project for “mapping highly
infectious diseases in Ukraine,” including anthrax; the UP-4 Project,
described as a “risk assessment of particularly dangerous pathogens
transmitted by birds in Ukraine during migration”; the UP-8 Project
studying “spread of Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever virus and hantaviruses
in Ukraine and the potential need for differential diagnosis of patients
with suspected leptospirosis. Previously released documents showed she
also oversaw Project P-782, conducting research into the transmission of
diseases through bats.

Russia Vows to Target British Weapons Being Supplied to *Nazis* in Ukraine
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/02/russia-vows-to-target-british-
weapons-being-supplied-to-nazis-in-ukraine/
Ambassador to the UK, Andrey Kelin, said in an interview with the TASS
news agency on April 2.
“All arms supplies are destabilizing, particularly those mentioned by [UK
Defense Secretary Ben] Wallace,” Kelin said. “They exacerbate the
situation, making it even bloodier. Apparently, those are new,
high-precision weapons. Naturally, our armed forces will view them as a
legitimate target if those supplies get through the Ukrainian border.”

British intelligence notified Zelensky how the eastern grouping of the
Armed Forces of Ukraine will be destroyed – source
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/02/british-intelligence-notified-
zelensky-how-the-eastern-grouping-of-the-armed-forces-of-ukraine-will-be-
destroyed-source/

‘Mengele of Ukraine’, Now Russian Captive, Begs Her Nazi Friends to
Release Mariupol Hostages
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/02/mengele-of-ukraine-now-russian-
captive-begs-her-nazi-friends-to-release-mariupol-hostages/
She wanted to escape from Mariupol along the humanitarian corridor,
dressed in civilian clothes and mingled with the locals. Didn’t work out,
figured it out!
Her grandfather was a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, and since 2014
she has been helping Hitler’s followers exclusively. Started with a coup
d’état on the Maidan. Then, in pursuit of thrills, she went to the ATO,
and created her own “peaceful” division – “Angels of Tyra”.

It Begins: Bioweapon Infected Phony Cash Scattered Over School in Lugansk
(censored)
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/02/breaking-us-tested-asian-
tuberculosis-bioweapon-on-lugansk-school-children/
In the area of ​​​​one of the schools in 2020, counterfeit banknotes were
thrown out, the study of which showed that they were infected with the
Asian strain of tuberculosis About Biolabs

As the official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Major
General Igor Konashenkov, said earlier, during a special military
operation, the facts of an emergency cleansing by the Kiev regime of
traces of a military biological program being implemented in Ukraine,
funded by the US Department of Defense, were revealed. According to him,
information was received from employees of Ukrainian biological
laboratories about the emergency destruction of especially dangerous
pathogens on February 24: plague, anthrax, tularemia, cholera, and other
deadly diseases.

On March 9, Victoria Nuland, speaking at a hearing in the Foreign
Relations Committee of the Senate of the US Congress, admitted that there
are objects in Ukraine where research in the field of biology is carried
out, Washington is trying to prevent them from falling under the control
of the Russian forces.

According to her, the State Department is “concerned that the Russian
military may be trying to take control of them,” and is working with the
Ukrainian side to ensure that Kyiv can “prevent any of these research
materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces.” In response, the
Russian Defense Ministry noted that with these words it confirmed the
participation of the Pentagon in military biological programs in Ukraine.

Here is an imbecile, destroying his once prosperous wannabe communist
country, now a shithole fucked up by western liberal capitalism.
Void of people able to work, emigrated as slaves to the fake_money west.
Hard learning the lesson, but they will.

Deputy Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski says stationing US nukes in
eastern Europe would “make sense”
https://www.rt.com/news/553214-polish-official-wants-us-nukes-eastern-
europe/
“fundamentally, it makes sense to expand nuclear sharing to the eastern
flank,” meaning, bombing Russia, their brother folk.

khazar Madeleine Albright’s Epitaph: “Half a Million Dead Children? We
Think The Lie It’s Worth It”
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/03/23/madeleine-albrights-epitaph-half-
a-million-dead-children-we-think-its-worth-it/

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 12:23:09 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 5:30:37 AM UTC-7, Hagan Koon wrote:
> > nazi excrement JanPB failed the eugenicist IQ-test:
> > >> You deplorable nazi excrement, stop snipping the facts, proving the
> > >> nazi hoaxes.
> > >
> > > Again, the bottom line is that it's Putin who attacked Ukraine and is
> > You keep snipping evidences, you stinking nazi_excrement. That woman was published in all newspapers in the "west". Then she came out telling the truth, no jets, just two bombs outside the hospital, where after "journalists" were there in 10 minutes, similar the mercenary "white_helmets" hoaxing the "chemical_atack" in Syria, being there *in_minutes* "saving" people from the fake attack.
> >
> > You stinking excrement, you slavic_germans are all nazi *excrement*.

Are you the person I was talking to or someone else? I'm done with this topic,
you guys are talking to yourselves from now on.

--
Jan

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 2:04:49 PM UTC-7, Lamar Main wrote:

> The virus of Nazism is rampant in today's #Ukraine. ❓Who is behind that
> ❓ Who is responsible fo https://www.bitchute.com/video/98KTKBipqgHt/
>
> Proof Of False Flag - Video Shows “Bucha Massacre” Dead Bodies Moving
> Around https://www.bitchute.com/video/jgK3TvsUoKCk/
UK

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bitchute/

"Overall, we rate BitChute extreme right and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories, propaganda, hate speech, poor sourcing, fake news, and a lack of transparency. This source is not credible for accurate information and may be offensive to some (most)."

You are a complete fool to quote BitChute... they do nothing but lie...

On 4/4/2022 1:20 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 03.04.2022 um 21:42 schrieb Michael Moroney:
>
>>>>> I understand, that magnetic field and electric field have different
>>>>> effects, hence are different things, even if related.
>>>>>
>>>>> So: I cannot subtract 1 amp from 1 Volt, because that does not make
>>>>> much
>>>>> more sense then subtraction weigth from pressure.
>>>>
>>>> You don't subtract 1 A from 1 V.
>>>
>>>
>>> Electric field strength (commonly called 'E') was subtracted from
>>> magnetic field strength (commonly called 'H') by Einstein.
>>>
>>> E has [V/m] as units and H has [A/m].
>>>
>>> To subtract E from H would mean [A/m - V/m] =[(A - V)/m].
>>>
>>> (Einstein used only the X-components called 'N' and 'Y', which should
>>> have similar units, nevertheless. The used phrase 'force' instead of
>>> 'field strength' was actually wrong.)
>>>
>>> Now ... ..(N - v/c*Y)... contains an illegal operation, because it
>>> requires to subtract Volts from Amps. (sorry: I wrote it the other way
>>> round, but that does not matter, because subtraction is also a form of
>>> addition).
>>>
>>> I have complained about this operation and you are still not able to
>>> justify that by other means then by referencing to the same units used
>>> in the cgs system.
>>
>> The Gaussian/CGS system uses different definitions for electric and
>> magnetic fields.  Both are defined as force per unit charge.
>>
>> The magnetic field also needs a speed/velocity component, but CGS uses a
>> _ratio_ of v/c which is unitless.  Since both the magnetic and electric
>> fields have the same units, they can be added or subtracted from each
>> other.
>
> I'm totally speachless!
>
> No!!!
>
> In physics you cannot randomly add or subtract numbers, just because
> they have no or the same units!

That depends.

> Here we have electric and magnetic field strength, which the cgs-system
> unfortunately measures with the same units.
>
> But to add or subtract these values would require, to add or subtract
> those fields, what you cannot do (at least should not do).

You do realize, don't you, that when you do a Lorentz transformation of
a system with electric and magnetic fields, you can get a DIFFERENT
system of electric and magnetic fields?

Did you also know that magnetic fields can be explained by SR length
contraction/time dilation of moving electrons in wires? Even though the
electrons themselves move at a very slow speed?

On 4/4/2022 8:41 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 2:04:49 PM UTC-7, Lamar Main wrote:
>
>> The virus of Nazism is rampant in today's #Ukraine. ❓Who is behind that
>> ❓ Who is responsible fo https://www.bitchute.com/video/98KTKBipqgHt/
>>
>> Proof Of False Flag - Video Shows “Bucha Massacre” Dead Bodies Moving
>> Around https://www.bitchute.com/video/jgK3TvsUoKCk/
> UK
>
> https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bitchute/
>
> "Overall, we rate BitChute extreme right and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories, propaganda, hate speech, poor sourcing, fake news, and a lack of transparency. This source is not credible for accurate information and may be offensive to some (most)."
>
> You are a complete fool to quote BitChute... they do nothing but lie...

It seems there is an extreme surplus of foolishness in Russia these
days. Not just the nymshifter quoting BitChute, but 卐Putin卐 starting
a war for no reason with a completely unready military and
underestimation of the Ukrainian people.

On 4/4/2022 8:09 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 4/4/2022 8:41 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
>> On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 2:04:49 PM UTC-7, Lamar Main wrote:
>>
>>> The virus of Nazism is rampant in today's #Ukraine. ❓Who is behind that
>>> ❓ Who is responsible fo https://www.bitchute.com/video/98KTKBipqgHt/
>>>
>>> Proof Of False Flag - Video Shows “Bucha Massacre” Dead Bodies Moving
>>> Around https://www.bitchute.com/video/jgK3TvsUoKCk/
>> UK
>>
>> https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bitchute/
>>
>> "Overall, we rate BitChute extreme right and Questionable based on the
>> promotion of conspiracy theories, propaganda, hate speech, poor
>> sourcing, fake news, and a lack of transparency. This source is not
>> credible for accurate information and may be offensive to some (most)."
>>
>> You are a complete fool to quote BitChute... they do nothing but lie...
>
> It seems there is an extreme surplus of foolishness in Russia these
> days.  Not just the nymshifter quoting BitChute, but 卐Putin卐 starting
> a war for no reason with a completely unready military and
> underestimation of the Ukrainian people.

Unprepared military is, IMO, a superficial analysis. I see this more as
a disagreement between the Kremlin and field officers. Their active army
probably doesn't mind doing some killing and generalized destruction but
appears to refuse victory to those in charge. Which does Occam's Razor
choose? IMO both. Perhaps both have equal validity. One thing is for
certain, Putin didn't expect this outcome. I wonder if he'll follow
Stalin's example by executing a significant segment of his officer
corps. Perhaps an even bigger question is whether or not he has the
power to do that if he sees that as a solution to his current dilemma.

Can he hope to improve the likelihood of a successful military in
his lifetime? IMO not likely. Indeed, my analysis has Putin himself
at significant risk. The biggest problem for Russia is what sort of
a person will replace Putin?

Most western people fail to recognize an important factor.

Russian-Slavic thinking is Oriental in nature, quite alien to western
philosophy.

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 10:17:53 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 4/4/2022 8:09 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > On 4/4/2022 8:41 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
> >> On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 2:04:49 PM UTC-7, Lamar Main wrote:
> >>
> >>> The virus of Nazism is rampant in today's #Ukraine. ❓Who is behind that
> >>> ❓ Who is responsible fo https://www.bitchute.com/video/98KTKBipqgHt/
> >>>
> >>> Proof Of False Flag - Video Shows “Bucha Massacre” Dead Bodies Moving
> >>> Around https://www.bitchute.com/video/jgK3TvsUoKCk/
> >> UK
> >>
> >> https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bitchute/
> >>
> >> "Overall, we rate BitChute extreme right and Questionable based on the
> >> promotion of conspiracy theories, propaganda, hate speech, poor
> >> sourcing, fake news, and a lack of transparency. This source is not
> >> credible for accurate information and may be offensive to some (most)."
> >>
> >> You are a complete fool to quote BitChute... they do nothing but lie....
> >
> > It seems there is an extreme surplus of foolishness in Russia these
> > days. Not just the nymshifter quoting BitChute, but 卐Putin卐 starting
> > a war for no reason with a completely unready military and
> > underestimation of the Ukrainian people.
> Unprepared military is, IMO, a superficial analysis. I see this more as
> a disagreement between the Kremlin and field officers.

I think this is the classic case of a despot falling into the information
bubble trap that inevitably results. His advisors know that it's more
important to please the boss than to tell him the truth.

> Can he hope to improve the likelihood of a successful military in
> his lifetime? IMO not likely. Indeed, my analysis has Putin himself
> at significant risk. The biggest problem for Russia is what sort of
> a person will replace Putin?

Yes, this is a risk.

> Most western people fail to recognize an important factor.
>
> Russian-Slavic thinking is Oriental in nature, quite alien to western
> philosophy.

Yes. And one of its features is the centuries-long schizophrenic split
between wanting to be like the West while remaining completely
foreign to its democratic ideals. It shows up even in such stupid
details like Putin's wristwatch, a very expensive GERMAN watch
by A. Lange u. Söhne.

--
Jan

Am 04.04.2022 um 04:33 schrieb JanPB:
> On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 5:25:24 PM UTC-7, Vance Rera wrote:
>> JanPB wrote:
>>
>>>> You certainly failed the invented *eugenicist* IQ-test, in your try to
>>>> emigrate to america or cacanada, you disgusting subhuman excrement.
>>>
>>> And now I've reduced you to a babbling idiot with no arguments, just
>>> personal attacks.
>>> Again, the bottom line is that it's Putin who attacked Ukraine. It is
>>> Putin who is bombing hospitals there. You can twist in pretzels all you
>>> want over this, it will change nothing.
>> You deplorable nazi excrement, stop snipping the facts, proving the nazi hoaxes.
>
> Again, the bottom line is that it's Putin who attacked Ukraine and is bombing
> hospitals, women and children. You can scream all you want.
> (BTW, I agreed with you about the Nazi element twice already (a fact you
> conveniently ignore)).
>
> Putin now knows he is a hairline away from sharing the fate of Ceausescu who
> made the same classic dumb mistakes as he. It will be a happy end for him if it
> all ends with just the military escorting him from the Kremlin at the gunpoint.
>
> Has anyone noticed that pathetic meeting Putin had with his advisors
> few days before the invasion? It was on TV, he was sitting 20 metres away
> from them and proudly *scolded* in public a couple of them when they tried
> to say something he didn't like to hear, making fun of them stammering.
> He thought he was showing his TV audience how big his dick was but it was
> in fact exactly the kind of thing that has finally caught up with him.
>
> Too bad Russians are paying for all this, it's always the people who suffer.

Who will most liekly suffer? Most likely Putin will not.

Putin had allegedly sent his family to Switzerland.

That is VERY interesting, because that country is the only one in the
world, that has enough atomic-bomb-shelters for all citizens.

The country is also home to many organisations, which are assumed to
have conncetions to the so called 'New World Order'.

E.g. we have a pharma giant named 'Novartis' there, which had given the
founders of BionTech a few billions.

We have the World Bank, the WEF of Klaus Schwab or the WHO there. Also
the 'Round Table', the 'Bilderberg Group' and the 'Kneights Templars'
are assumed to be there.

So, let's assume that Putin wants to go there, too, if things get 'hot'.

But what will YOU do?

TH

One thing I read somewhere (I forget where) was a theory why Russia
essentially annihilated Mariupol, which seems very odd once you realize
that Mariupol is substantially ethnically Russian (NOT Ukrainian) and
mostly Russian speakers. The theory was that it is punishment/revenge
for Mariupol not revolting against Ukraine and joining Russia when
Russia grabbed Crimea, like they expected they would. Scary if true.

Am 04.04.2022 um 10:44 schrieb JanPB:

>>>>
>>>> Electric field strength (commonly called 'E') was subtracted from
>>>> magnetic field strength (commonly called 'H') by Einstein.
>>>>
>>>> E has [V/m] as units and H has [A/m].
>>>
>>> How about in cgs units? You know about those?
>> Do you really want to defend the same idocities as Einstein?
>>
>> (Einstein wrote something like things would change if the definitions
>> were changed.)
>>
>>
>> But, in fact, there is the demand, that definitions should fit to the
>> object which is defined.
>>
>> In case of the magnetic field strength we would like magnets to create
>> such a field.
>>
>> For the electric fields we certainly like to include static electric
>> fields into the definition.
>>
>> Now the question: how can you subtract a static electric field from a
>> static magnetic field in any reasonable way?
>
> Again, in the Gaussian system their units are both force per charge.
> Einstein does not enter into this.
>

There is a HUGE 'but'...

Assume there is a machine, which measures something. Inside the box is a
mechanism, which includes a deformable spring. The force upon that
spring is now fed to a dial, which presents the value of deformation in
units like 'dyne'.

So far so good.

But the scale of the device contains another inscription, like e.g.
'magnetic field strength'.

It could also state, that atmospheric pressure is measured or the the
temperature in the room.

Now you should NOT mix readings from different machines, just because
all have the same dimension 'dyne'.

TH

Am 04.04.2022 um 15:55 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>> Am 03.04.2022 um 14:38 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>>> Am 01.04.2022 um 09:39 schrieb JanPB:
>>>>> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 10:37:59 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>> Am 31.03.2022 um 09:14 schrieb JanPB:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 11:04:11 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>>> Am 30.03.2022 um 20:08 schrieb JanPB:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I have not dealt with these equations, because I disliked Einstein's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subtraction of magnetic field strength from electric field strength, anyhow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's nothing peculiar to Einstein, it's the Gaussian system of units.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have actually problems with subtracting electric field strength from
>>>>>>>>>>>> magnetic field strength.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is like subtracting 1 V from 1 A.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To me this doesn't make any sense at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's your problem then. If you want to resolve this, you must
>>>>>>>>>>> learn how various systems of units work.
>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In the cgs system electric field strength and magnetic field strength
>>>>>>>>>> have the same unit of force, because the fields were equated with the
>>>>>>>>>> process of measuring them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> These measuring devices contained deformable springs, which measure a force.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Such springs are contained in many analog measuring devices, like a
>>>>>>>>>> pressure gauge, a cithen balance or a volt-meter.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All of them measure something by a reference to a deformable spring.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But you cannot subtract Volts from psi, just because both were measured
>>>>>>>>>> with a deformable spring.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To do so would require a physical justification, which was entirely
>>>>>>>>>> missing in Einstein's text.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, this is how units of systems work (Gaussian, in this case).
>>>>>>>> I have given you already the example, that many anolg measuring devices
>>>>>>>> work with deformable springs, which emasure ultimatively a force.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But still you must not add or subtract different units,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are not different units in the Gaussian system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> like pressure
>>>>>>>> and weigth,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> N/A. Learn about X if you want to discuss X (esp. if you want to
>>>>>>> criticise X).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for instance, even if a pressure gauge and a kitchen scale
>>>>>>>> work with a spring.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is fantastically stupid nonsese to even advocate such use of values.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No. You simply don't understand how this works. Some people, when
>>>>>>> they don't understand something, tend to blame everyone but themselves
>>>>>>> for this. I cannot fix this problem for you.
>>>>>> I understand, that magnetic field and electric field have different
>>>>>> effects, hence are different things, even if related.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So: I cannot subtract 1 amp from 1 Volt, because that does not make much
>>>>>> more sense then subtraction weigth from pressure.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't subtract 1 A from 1 V.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Electric field strength (commonly called 'E') was subtracted from
>>>> magnetic field strength (commonly called 'H') by Einstein.
>>>>
>>>> E has [V/m] as units and H has [A/m].
>>>
>>> How about in cgs units? You know about those?
>>
>> Do you really want to defend the same idocities as Einstein?
>
> I don’t think systems of units are idiocies.

Not the system of units, of course, but the use of these units.

The cgs system boild the fields down to 'force', which is measured in
'dyne'.

This force was meant as real mechanical force like with what we measure
weight, for instance.

This was justified by measuring a force inside the measuring device,
which ultimately was a mechanical force.

(Einstein actually wrote so, when he wrote about the connection of an
electron to a spring balance).

Now the same units 'dyne' are not appropriate for electrical fields of
different kind, because the dyne is 'not electric'.

The units simply ignore this different origins of the fields and their
different nature.

But the differences are real, hence the same untis do not allow
algebraic operations between them just because the units are similar.

....

TH

Am 04.04.2022 um 15:55 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>> Am 03.04.2022 um 21:42 schrieb Michael Moroney:
>>
>>>>>> I understand, that magnetic field and electric field have different
>>>>>> effects, hence are different things, even if related.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So: I cannot subtract 1 amp from 1 Volt, because that does not make
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> more sense then subtraction weigth from pressure.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't subtract 1 A from 1 V.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Electric field strength (commonly called 'E') was subtracted from
>>>> magnetic field strength (commonly called 'H') by Einstein.
>>>>
>>>> E has [V/m] as units and H has [A/m].
>>>>
>>>> To subtract E from H would mean [A/m - V/m] =[(A - V)/m].
>>>>
>>>> (Einstein used only the X-components called 'N' and 'Y', which should
>>>> have similar units, nevertheless. The used phrase 'force' instead of
>>>> 'field strength' was actually wrong.)
>>>>
>>>> Now ... ..(N - v/c*Y)... contains an illegal operation, because it
>>>> requires to subtract Volts from Amps. (sorry: I wrote it the other way
>>>> round, but that does not matter, because subtraction is also a form of
>>>> addition).
>>>>
>>>> I have complained about this operation and you are still not able to
>>>> justify that by other means then by referencing to the same units used
>>>> in the cgs system.
>>>
>>> The Gaussian/CGS system uses different definitions for electric and
>>> magnetic fields. Both are defined as force per unit charge.
>>>
>>> The magnetic field also needs a speed/velocity component, but CGS uses a
>>> _ratio_ of v/c which is unitless. Since both the magnetic and electric
>>> fields have the same units, they can be added or subtracted from each
>>> other.
>>
>> I'm totally speachless!
>>
>> No!!!
>>
>> In physics you cannot randomly add or subtract numbers, just because
>> they have no or the same units!
>
> Well, actually, if two numbers have no units, yes, absolutely you can add
> or subtract them. As in, 1-v/c.

You can add the number of people on the internation space station to the
number of holes in your socks, if you like to do that.

But the question is, whether such an opreation makes sense.

In theoretical physics you are simply not allowed to add random numbers,
just because the units match.

>>
>> In physics you have always real physical systems, which need to
>> correspond to the numbers in some way.
>
> Yes, and there are different systems of units, which you don’t seem to be
> familiar with.

What had this to do with the question, whether or not electric field
strength might be subtracted from magnetic field strength?

It where not the units, which caused my concerns, but the physical
meaning of that operation.

So: what is actually the difference of a magnetic field of -say- 300
Gauss and an electric field of say 100 V/m?

>>
>> Here we have electric and magnetic field strength, which the cgs-system
>> unfortunately measures with the same units.
>>
>> But to add or subtract these values would require, to add or subtract
>> those fields, what you cannot do (at least should not do).
>
> Depends on the system of units.
>

In the cgs system 'dyne' were used. And now N should be 100 dynes and
v/c*Y should be 90 dynes.

the result is 10 dynes.

But is this an electric field or a magnetic field or both combined?

TH
>
>

On 4/5/2022 2:25 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Now the same units 'dyne' are not appropriate for electrical fields of
> different kind, because the dyne is 'not electric'.
>
> The units simply ignore this different origins of the fields and their
> different nature.

The units of the fields are not force but force per unit charge.

Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 04.04.2022 um 15:55 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
> > Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> >> Am 03.04.2022 um 21:42 schrieb Michael Moroney:
> >>
> >>>>>> I understand, that magnetic field and electric field have different
> >>>>>> effects, hence are different things, even if related.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So: I cannot subtract 1 amp from 1 Volt, because that does not make
> >>>>>> much
> >>>>>> more sense then subtraction weigth from pressure.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You don't subtract 1 A from 1 V.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Electric field strength (commonly called 'E') was subtracted from
> >>>> magnetic field strength (commonly called 'H') by Einstein.
> >>>>
> >>>> E has [V/m] as units and H has [A/m].
> >>>>
> >>>> To subtract E from H would mean [A/m - V/m] =[(A - V)/m].
> >>>>
> >>>> (Einstein used only the X-components called 'N' and 'Y', which should
> >>>> have similar units, nevertheless. The used phrase 'force' instead of
> >>>> 'field strength' was actually wrong.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Now ... ..(N - v/c*Y)... contains an illegal operation, because it
> >>>> requires to subtract Volts from Amps. (sorry: I wrote it the other way
> >>>> round, but that does not matter, because subtraction is also a form of
> >>>> addition).
> >>>>
> >>>> I have complained about this operation and you are still not able to
> >>>> justify that by other means then by referencing to the same units used
> >>>> in the cgs system.
> >>>
> >>> The Gaussian/CGS system uses different definitions for electric and
> >>> magnetic fields. Both are defined as force per unit charge.
> >>>
> >>> The magnetic field also needs a speed/velocity component, but CGS uses a
> >>> _ratio_ of v/c which is unitless. Since both the magnetic and electric
> >>> fields have the same units, they can be added or subtracted from each
> >>> other.
> >>
> >> I'm totally speachless!
> >>
> >> No!!!
> >>
> >> In physics you cannot randomly add or subtract numbers, just because
> >> they have no or the same units!
> >
> > Well, actually, if two numbers have no units, yes, absolutely you can add
> > or subtract them. As in, 1-v/c.
>
> You can add the number of people on the internation space station to the
> number of holes in your socks, if you like to do that.
>
> But the question is, whether such an opreation makes sense.
>
> In theoretical physics you are simply not allowed to add random numbers,
> just because the units match.

I may surprise you very much to learn this,
but people who actually do theoretical physics
never do things at random.
They know what they are doing. (hint hint)

> >> In physics you have always real physical systems, which need to
> >> correspond to the numbers in some way.
> >
> > Yes, and there are different systems of units, which you don't seem to be
> > familiar with.
>
>
> What had this to do with the question, whether or not electric field
> strength might be subtracted from magnetic field strength?
>
> It where not the units, which caused my concerns, but the physical
> meaning of that operation.
>
> So: what is actually the difference of a magnetic field of -say- 300
> Gauss and an electric field of say 100 V/m?

Not at random example: people often calculate the Lorentz force.
It equals F = e(E + v/c x B), in sane units.
Since v/c is obviously dimensionless this adds an E
to (a multiple of) a B, in a context that makes sense. [1]

Jan

[1] E^2 and B^2 are both an energy density, so also a pressure.
(see the Lagrangian for electromagnetism)
So both E and B both have the same dimension, \sqrt(pressure),
and units that have more practical names.