On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 7:09:34 AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> And because it isn't my
>> responsibility to do so. It's a problem of the commons, and cannot be
>> dealt with except as such.
>
>It _is_ true that expecting the current global warming problem to be solved
>by everyone's voluntary efforts is unrealistic.
>
>But saying that people shouldn't bother to make such voluntary efforts as
>they can while we are waiting for more concerted action seems to me to be
>going too far.

But I didn't say that.

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 7:21:03 AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

> >But saying that people shouldn't bother to make such voluntary efforts as
> >they can while we are waiting for more concerted action seems to me to be
> >going too far.

> But I didn't say that.

You appeared to have said that. In your later replies to Wsnell, you did note
that you do indeed make reasonable personal efforts. But this just gives
him the opportunity to claim you were walking back your previous statements.

I'm willing to accept you didn't express quite what you meant. He will just
call you a liar.

John Savard

On Sunday, August 14, 2022 at 7:21:45 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:

> You appeared to have said that. In your later replies to Wsnell, you did note
> that you do indeed make reasonable personal efforts. But this just gives
> him the opportunity to claim you were walking back your previous statements.
>
> I'm willing to accept you didn't express quite what you meant. He will just
> call you a liar.

It is more than abundantly clear that:

He thinks that we should not be burning fossil fuels.

He burns them anyway, for his own selfish reasons.

On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 16:21:43 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 7:21:03 AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>> >But saying that people shouldn't bother to make such voluntary efforts as
>> >they can while we are waiting for more concerted action seems to me to be
>> >going too far.
>
>> But I didn't say that.
>
>You appeared to have said that. In your later replies to Wsnell, you did note
>that you do indeed make reasonable personal efforts. But this just gives
>him the opportunity to claim you were walking back your previous statements.
>
>I'm willing to accept you didn't express quite what you meant. He will just
>call you a liar.

That's all he ever has. He's just another hateful idiot like Rich.

On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:01:40 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 16:21:43 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 7:21:03 AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:

> That's all he ever has. He's just another hateful idiot like Rich.

Based on what you post, it is quite clear that you are the hateful one.

Your comment provides more documentation of your hypocrisy.

On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 4:59:17 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

> Based on what you post, it is quite clear that you are the hateful one.

I have noticed a pattern in your conversations here.

Someone ventures an opinion which differs from yours, and which
is in favor of what you percieve as socialism.

Thus, you factually point out that this person is a supporter of the
crimes of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler.

And the other person, strange to relate, takes that as a personal insult,
and replies in kind.

At which point, you note that it is the other person who was the first to
descend to insults. That may be true from your point of view, but most
people here are insensitive to such fine distinctions.

John Savard

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:28:46 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 4:59:17 AM UTC-6, W wrote:
>
> > Based on what you post, it is quite clear that you are the hateful one.
> I have noticed a pattern in your conversations here.

No, you have IMAGINED a pattern.

One off-topic issue in this thread has been another participant's hypocrisy which closely resembles that of collectivists and their supporters.

The original topic is about the fact that LEDs are far from a panacea and in fact will make the problem of light pollution much more widespread and in some places far worse than it already is.