On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 04:03:57 UTC+2, Mike Fontenot wrote:
> On 4/8/22 1:05 AM, Mike Fontenot wrote:
> >
> > What is really new, though, in my latest results, is the fact that the
> > accelerating observer can assemble an array of clocks (and attending
> > "helper friends" (HF's)), which give him a "NOW" that extends throughout
> > all space (analogous to what Einstein did for inertial observers). And
> > THAT guarantees that the accelerating observer's conclusions about the
> > home twin's age are fully MEANINGFUL to him. His conclusions agree with
> > the CMIF simultaneity method, which means that the CMIF simultaneity
> > method is the only correct simultaneity method.
> >
> > [[Mod. note -- I think you're mistaken in a couple of places [...]:
>
> I WOULD like to hear your "take" on my arguments here:

The powers that be will never allow this to resurface, the fundamental fraud of physics and not only: make the idea of the world all and only physical, then fuck up the most fundamental notion of it all, time, i.e. *proper time* and what the heck that even means!

Of course, if I and you sync our clocks, our clocks remain in sync for ever and ever, and so does our aging and everything else. Drifting in space-time is something else, it affects coordinate time, not proper time (!!), so we do keep aging the same (we stay for ever and ever on the same *isochronous front*), just we are not anymore in the same plane of simultaneity: but it's still just drifting in coordinates as in plain Galilean physics, just in a slightly different "space".

And if that's not a postulate, that proper time is UNIVERSAL (I bet it is, but very well buried), it SHOULD be one: the alternative is the usual systematic fraud, arbitrium, and insanity all over the place that every sane person who approaches this cannot but see at least initially, i.e. before being bullied to the contrary.

BTW, I had posted that reply (a similar and washed down one actually, but didn't think in advance I should keep a copy of it...) to sci physics research, but it's never been allowed and never will: so let's just post it here, to the benefit of humanity, what's left of it.

(I'll ignore the trolls and spammer that are of course gonna flood the thing here: just beware of *Tom Roberts* in particular, a true liar and agent of the enemy with the pedigree of authority...)

HTH,

Julio

On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 14:17:01 UTC+2, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 04:03:57 UTC+2, Mike Fontenot wrote:
> > On 4/8/22 1:05 AM, Mike Fontenot wrote:
> > >
> > > What is really new, though, in my latest results, is the fact that the
> > > accelerating observer can assemble an array of clocks (and attending
> > > "helper friends" (HF's)), which give him a "NOW" that extends throughout
> > > all space (analogous to what Einstein did for inertial observers). And
> > > THAT guarantees that the accelerating observer's conclusions about the
> > > home twin's age are fully MEANINGFUL to him. His conclusions agree with
> > > the CMIF simultaneity method, which means that the CMIF simultaneity
> > > method is the only correct simultaneity method.
> > >
> > > [[Mod. note -- I think you're mistaken in a couple of places [...]:
> >
> > I WOULD like to hear your "take" on my arguments here:
>
> The powers that be will never allow this to resurface, the fundamental fraud of physics and not only: make the idea of the world all and only physical, then fuck up the most fundamental notion of it all, time, i.e. *proper time* and what the heck that even means!
>
> Of course, if I and you sync our clocks, our clocks remain in sync for ever and ever, and so does our aging and everything else. Drifting in space-time is something else, it affects coordinate time, not proper time (!!), so we do keep aging the same (we stay for ever and ever on the same *isochronous front*), just we are not anymore in the same plane of simultaneity: but it's still just drifting in coordinates as in plain Galilean physics, just in a slightly different "space".
>
> And if that's not a postulate, that proper time is UNIVERSAL (I bet it is, but very well buried), it SHOULD be one: the alternative is the usual systematic fraud, arbitrium, and insanity all over the place that every sane person who approaches this cannot but see at least initially, i.e. before being bullied to the contrary.
>
> BTW, I had posted that reply (a similar and washed down one actually, but didn't think in advance I should keep a copy of it...) to sci physics research, but it's never been allowed and never will: so let's just post it here, to the benefit of humanity, what's left of it.
>
> (I'll ignore the trolls and spammer that are of course gonna flood the thing here: just beware of *Tom Roberts* in particular, a true liar and agent of the enemy with the pedigree of authority...) EOD.

P.S. Study this, the 101 of relativity and already all there is to say about time vs proper time:
<https://jp-diegidio.github.io/STUDY.Physics.SpecialRelativity/InertialFrames/App/index.html>

HTH,

Julio

Stronzo Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 14:17:01 UTC+2, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
>> On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 04:03:57 UTC+2, Mike Fontenot wrote:
>>> On 4/8/22 1:05 AM, Mike Fontenot wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What is really new, though, in my latest results, is the fact that the
>>>> accelerating observer can assemble an array of clocks (and attending
>>>> "helper friends" (HF's)), which give him a "NOW" that extends throughout
>>>> all space (analogous to what Einstein did for inertial observers). And
>>>> THAT guarantees that the accelerating observer's conclusions about the
>>>> home twin's age are fully MEANINGFUL to him. His conclusions agree with
>>>> the CMIF simultaneity method, which means that the CMIF simultaneity
>>>> method is the only correct simultaneity method.
>>>>
>>>> [[Mod. note -- I think you're mistaken in a couple of places [...]:
>>>
>>> I WOULD like to hear your "take" on my arguments here:
>>
>> The powers that be will never allow this to resurface, the fundamental fraud of physics and not only: make the idea of the world all and only physical, then fuck up the most fundamental notion of it all, time, i.e. *proper time* and what the heck that even means!
>>
>> Of course, if I and you sync our clocks, our clocks remain in sync for ever and ever, and so does our aging and everything else. Drifting in space-time is something else, it affects coordinate time, not proper time (!!), so we do keep aging the same (we stay for ever and ever on the same *isochronous front*), just we are not anymore in the same plane of simultaneity: but it's still just drifting in coordinates as in plain Galilean physics, just in a slightly different "space".
>>
>> And if that's not a postulate, that proper time is UNIVERSAL (I bet it is, but very well buried), it SHOULD be one: the alternative is the usual systematic fraud, arbitrium, and insanity all over the place that every sane person who approaches this cannot but see at least initially, i.e. before being bullied to the contrary.
>>
>> BTW, I had posted that reply (a similar and washed down one actually, but didn't think in advance I should keep a copy of it...) to sci physics research, but it's never been allowed and never will: so let's just post it here, to the benefit of humanity, what's left of it.
>>
>> (I'll ignore the trolls and spammer that are of course gonna flood the thing here: just beware of *Tom Roberts* in particular, a true liar and agent of the enemy with the pedigree of authority...) EOD.
>
> P.S. Study this, the 101 of relativity and already all there is to say about time vs proper time:
> <https://jp-diegidio.github.io/STUDY.Physics.SpecialRelativity/InertialFrames/App/index.html>

You should give up on physics Julio, this is not your thing.

Neither are decency and integrity by the way.

On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 14:37:23 UTC+2, Python wrote:
> Stronzo Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 14:17:01 UTC+2, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> >> On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 04:03:57 UTC+2, Mike Fontenot wrote:
> >>> On 4/8/22 1:05 AM, Mike Fontenot wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> What is really new, though, in my latest results, is the fact that the
> >>>> accelerating observer can assemble an array of clocks (and attending
> >>>> "helper friends" (HF's)), which give him a "NOW" that extends throughout
> >>>> all space (analogous to what Einstein did for inertial observers). And
> >>>> THAT guarantees that the accelerating observer's conclusions about the
> >>>> home twin's age are fully MEANINGFUL to him. His conclusions agree with
> >>>> the CMIF simultaneity method, which means that the CMIF simultaneity
> >>>> method is the only correct simultaneity method.
> >>>>
> >>>> [[Mod. note -- I think you're mistaken in a couple of places [...]:
> >>>
> >>> I WOULD like to hear your "take" on my arguments here:
> >>
> >> The powers that be will never allow this to resurface, the fundamental fraud of physics and not only: make the idea of the world all and only physical, then fuck up the most fundamental notion of it all, time, i.e. *proper time* and what the heck that even means!
> >>
> >> Of course, if I and you sync our clocks, our clocks remain in sync for ever and ever, and so does our aging and everything else. Drifting in space-time is something else, it affects coordinate time, not proper time (!!), so we do keep aging the same (we stay for ever and ever on the same *isochronous front*), just we are not anymore in the same plane of simultaneity: but it's still just drifting in coordinates as in plain Galilean physics, just in a slightly different "space".
> >>
> >> And if that's not a postulate, that proper time is UNIVERSAL (I bet it is, but very well buried), it SHOULD be one: the alternative is the usual systematic fraud, arbitrium, and insanity all over the place that every sane person who approaches this cannot but see at least initially, i.e. before being bullied to the contrary.
> >>
> >> BTW, I had posted that reply (a similar and washed down one actually, but didn't think in advance I should keep a copy of it...) to sci physics research, but it's never been allowed and never will: so let's just post it here, to the benefit of humanity, what's left of it.
> >>
> >> (I'll ignore the trolls and spammer that are of course gonna flood the thing here: just beware of *Tom Roberts* in particular, a true liar and agent of the enemy with the pedigree of authority...) EOD.
> >
> > P.S. Study this, the 101 of relativity and already all there is to say about time vs proper time:
> > <https://jp-diegidio.github.io/STUDY.Physics.SpecialRelativity/InertialFrames/App/index.html>
> You should give up on physics Julio, this is not your thing.
>
> Neither are decency and integrity by the way.

What a perfect example you are of the retarded and vile cunts that pollute all baskets. But I rather pity you, Jean-Pierre the zombi retard, I have it with those who pay your bills, the true global genocidal criminals...

Enough said, you pieces of fucking shit.

*Plonk*

Julio

Stronzo Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> ...
> *Plonk*

Don't pretend to "plonk" people, you never do.

Sei davvero un disgustoso pezzo di merda Julio, e anche completamente
pazzo.

Julio Di Egidio wrote:

>> You should give up on physics Julio, this is not your thing.
>>
>> Neither are decency and integrity by the way.
>
> What a perfect example you are of the retarded and vile cunts that
> pollute all baskets. But I rather pity you, Jean-Pierre the zombi
> retard, I have it with those who pay your bills, the true global
> genocidal criminals... Enough said, you pieces of fucking shit.
> *Plonk*

So true. Like a corrupt liberal capitalist LGBTQ+ pedophile western
politician:

"..if Hungary votes against democracy, they shall be kicked out of EU"

remark *votes* and *against_democracy* in the same sentence.

On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 14:37:23 UTC+2, Python wrote:
> Stronzo Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 14:17:01 UTC+2, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> >> On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 04:03:57 UTC+2, Mike Fontenot wrote:
> >>> On 4/8/22 1:05 AM, Mike Fontenot wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> What is really new, though, in my latest results, is the fact that the
> >>>> accelerating observer can assemble an array of clocks (and attending
> >>>> "helper friends" (HF's)), which give him a "NOW" that extends throughout
> >>>> all space (analogous to what Einstein did for inertial observers). And
> >>>> THAT guarantees that the accelerating observer's conclusions about the
> >>>> home twin's age are fully MEANINGFUL to him. His conclusions agree with
> >>>> the CMIF simultaneity method, which means that the CMIF simultaneity
> >>>> method is the only correct simultaneity method.
> >>>>
> >>>> [[Mod. note -- I think you're mistaken in a couple of places [...]:
> >>>
> >>> I WOULD like to hear your "take" on my arguments here:
> >>
> >> The powers that be will never allow this to resurface, the fundamental fraud of physics and not only: make the idea of the world all and only physical, then fuck up the most fundamental notion of it all, time, i.e. *proper time* and what the heck that even means!
> >>
> >> Of course, if I and you sync our clocks, our clocks remain in sync for ever and ever, and so does our aging and everything else. Drifting in space-time is something else, it affects coordinate time, not proper time (!!), so we do keep aging the same (we stay for ever and ever on the same *isochronous front*), just we are not anymore in the same plane of simultaneity: but it's still just drifting in coordinates as in plain Galilean physics, just in a slightly different "space".
> >>
> >> And if that's not a postulate, that proper time is UNIVERSAL (I bet it is, but very well buried), it SHOULD be one: the alternative is the usual systematic fraud, arbitrium, and insanity all over the place that every sane person who approaches this cannot but see at least initially, i.e. before being bullied to the contrary.
> >>
> >> BTW, I had posted that reply (a similar and washed down one actually, but didn't think in advance I should keep a copy of it...) to sci physics research, but it's never been allowed and never will: so let's just post it here, to the benefit of humanity, what's left of it.
> >>
> >> (I'll ignore the trolls and spammer that are of course gonna flood the thing here: just beware of *Tom Roberts* in particular, a true liar and agent of the enemy with the pedigree of authority...) EOD.
> >
> > P.S. Study this, the 101 of relativity and already all there is to say about time vs proper time:
> > <https://jp-diegidio.github.io/STUDY.Physics.SpecialRelativity/InertialFrames/App/index.html>
> You should give up on physics Julio, this is not your thing.

Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again,
and trying to pretend he knows something.
Tell me, poor stinker, what is your definition of
a "theory" in the terms of Peano arithmetic?
See: if a theorem is going to be a part of a theory,
it has to be formulable in the language of the
theory. Do you get it? Or are you too stupid even for
that, poor stinker?

On 4/9/22 7:16 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> Of course, if I and you sync our clocks, our clocks remain in sync
> for ever and ever, and so does our aging and everything else.

This is just plain wrong, unless "you" and "I" remain together forever.
If one of us leaves and returns to the other, the clocks we carry will
no longer be in sync. This has been demonstrated in literally zillions
of experiments; modern atomic clocks are now so stable that just a few
hours at highway speeds is enough to measurably de-synchronize them.
Optical clocks at NIST de-synchronize at elevations differing by just
a few centimeters.

> [... word salad and nonsense ignored]

> [...] just beware of *Tom Roberts* in particular, a true liar and
> agent of the enemy with the pedigree of authority...)

I'll never understand why idiots and trolls behave this way -- to them,
honesty and integrity are useless, while knowledge and understanding are
completely irrelevant. Insults like this have nothing to do with me, but
all to do with the source.

Tom Roberts

Tom Roberts wrote:

> This is just plain wrong, unless "you" and "I" remain together forever.
> If one of us leaves and returns to the other, the clocks we carry will
> no longer be in sync. This has been demonstrated in literally zillions
> of

if both travel along different but similar path profile, according to the
filter, they should remain in synch. No need to stay together.

On Friday, 15 April 2022 at 08:04:42 UTC+2, Joe Chikanatsu wrote:
> Tom Roberts wrote:
>
> > This is just plain wrong, unless "you" and "I" remain together forever.
> > If one of us leaves and returns to the other, the clocks we carry will
> > no longer be in sync. This has been demonstrated in literally zillions
> > of
> if both travel along different but similar path profile, according to the
> filter, they should remain in synch. No need to stay together.

That on the whole line is the very bullshit I have been denouncing: but
you guys are just too stupid to even spam the thread or insult me with
something that is not just demented.

*Troll Alert*

Julio

On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 5:51:24 AM UTC-7, ju...@diegidio.name wrote:
> On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 14:37:23 UTC+2, Python wrote:
> > Stronzo Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 14:17:01 UTC+2, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > >> On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 04:03:57 UTC+2, Mike Fontenot wrote:
> > >>> On 4/8/22 1:05 AM, Mike Fontenot wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> What is really new, though, in my latest results, is the fact that the
> > >>>> accelerating observer can assemble an array of clocks (and attending
> > >>>> "helper friends" (HF's)), which give him a "NOW" that extends throughout
> > >>>> all space (analogous to what Einstein did for inertial observers). And
> > >>>> THAT guarantees that the accelerating observer's conclusions about the
> > >>>> home twin's age are fully MEANINGFUL to him. His conclusions agree with
> > >>>> the CMIF simultaneity method, which means that the CMIF simultaneity
> > >>>> method is the only correct simultaneity method.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [[Mod. note -- I think you're mistaken in a couple of places [...]:
> > >>>
> > >>> I WOULD like to hear your "take" on my arguments here:
> > >>
> > >> The powers that be will never allow this to resurface, the fundamental fraud of physics and not only: make the idea of the world all and only physical, then fuck up the most fundamental notion of it all, time, i.e. *proper time* and what the heck that even means!
> > >>
> > >> Of course, if I and you sync our clocks, our clocks remain in sync for ever and ever, and so does our aging and everything else. Drifting in space-time is something else, it affects coordinate time, not proper time (!!), so we do keep aging the same (we stay for ever and ever on the same *isochronous front*), just we are not anymore in the same plane of simultaneity: but it's still just drifting in coordinates as in plain Galilean physics, just in a slightly different "space".
> > >>
> > >> And if that's not a postulate, that proper time is UNIVERSAL (I bet it is, but very well buried), it SHOULD be one: the alternative is the usual systematic fraud, arbitrium, and insanity all over the place that every sane person who approaches this cannot but see at least initially, i.e. before being bullied to the contrary.
> > >>
> > >> BTW, I had posted that reply (a similar and washed down one actually, but didn't think in advance I should keep a copy of it...) to sci physics research, but it's never been allowed and never will: so let's just post it here, to the benefit of humanity, what's left of it.
> > >>
> > >> (I'll ignore the trolls and spammer that are of course gonna flood the thing here: just beware of *Tom Roberts* in particular, a true liar and agent of the enemy with the pedigree of authority...) EOD.
> > >
> > > P.S. Study this, the 101 of relativity and already all there is to say about time vs proper time:
> > > <https://jp-diegidio.github.io/STUDY.Physics.SpecialRelativity/InertialFrames/App/index.html>
> > You should give up on physics Julio, this is not your thing.
> >
> > Neither are decency and integrity by the way.
> What a perfect example you are of the retarded and vile cunts that pollute all baskets. But I rather pity you, Jean-Pierre the zombi retard, I have it with those who pay your bills, the true global genocidal criminals...
>
> Enough said, you pieces of fucking shit.
>
> *Plonk*
>
> Julio

You simply don't understand this theory. That's fine, I'm not good at
composing music either.

Just pick a hobby you can be good at. It will make a world of difference.

For now, leave physics to the experts, just like I leave writing for
symphony orchestra to those with the required talent for that sort of thing..

--
Jan

JanPB wrote:

> For now, leave physics to the experts, just like I leave writing for
> symphony orchestra to those with the required talent for that sort of
> thing.

but you don't like both.

British captive who fought in Mariupol describes ‘reality’
The Ukrainian forces have shown “lack of care” for civilians, Aiden Aslin
claims
https://www.rt.com/russia/553933-british-captive-mariupol-ukraine-reality/

“The situation in Mariupol is catastrophic. It could have been avoided
should Ukraine have left but they chose to stay. nazi *Zelensky* had a big
role [in this decision]. He could have told them to leave but they stayed.
I did not want this, I wanted to leave because we do not need war,” Aslin
can be seen saying in the video.

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 1:44:37 PM UTC-7, Tate Marugo wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
>
> > For now, leave physics to the experts, just like I leave writing for
> > symphony orchestra to those with the required talent for that sort of
> > thing.
> but you don't like both.
>
> British captive who fought in Mariupol describes ‘reality’
> The Ukrainian forces have shown “lack of care” for civilians, Aiden Aslin
> claims
> https://www.rt.com/russia/553933-british-captive-mariupol-ukraine-reality/
>
> “The situation in Mariupol is catastrophic. It could have been avoided
> should Ukraine have left but they chose to stay. nazi *Zelensky* had a big
> role [in this decision]. He could have told them to leave but they stayed..
> I did not want this, I wanted to leave because we do not need war,” Aslin
> can be seen saying in the video.

There is nothing to discuss until Putin leaves Ukraine.

--
Jan

JanPB wrote:

>> https://www.rt.com/russia/553933-british-captive-mariupol-ukraine-
reality/
>> “The situation in Mariupol is catastrophic. It could have been avoided
>> should Ukraine have left but they chose to stay. nazi *Zelensky* had a
>> big role [in this decision]. He could have told them to leave but they
>> stayed.
>> I did not want this, I wanted to leave because we do not need war,”
>> Aslin can be seen saying in the video.
>
> There is nothing to discuss until Putin leaves Ukraine.

You are an idiot, revealed by he mainstream crap language you emit. Dr.
Putin can't leave since he is not in the provincial territory of Russia,
accidentally called "ukraine". And russians can't leave own country. Those
homo capitalist nazis, mutilating the Russian language, saying it's
"ukrainian" will be punish or the crimes against humanity, as they
certainly deserve. Together with those nazi Polaker, in thousands, now
captured in Mariopol as nazi nato combatants. Do not expect mercy.

On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 4:01:35 AM UTC-7, Troy Matsuda wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
>
> >> https://www.rt.com/russia/553933-british-captive-mariupol-ukraine-
> reality/
> >> “The situation in Mariupol is catastrophic. It could have been avoided
> >> should Ukraine have left but they chose to stay. nazi *Zelensky* had a
> >> big role [in this decision]. He could have told them to leave but they
> >> stayed.
> >> I did not want this, I wanted to leave because we do not need war,”
> >> Aslin can be seen saying in the video.
> >
> > There is nothing to discuss until Putin leaves Ukraine.
> You are an idiot, revealed by he mainstream crap language you emit. Dr.
> Putin can't leave since he is not in the provincial territory of Russia,
> accidentally called "ukraine". And russians can't leave own country. Those
> homo capitalist nazis, mutilating the Russian language, saying it's
> "ukrainian" will be punish or the crimes against humanity, as they
> certainly deserve. Together with those nazi Polaker, in thousands, now
> captured in Mariopol as nazi nato combatants. Do not expect mercy.

There is nothing to discuss until Putin leaves Ukraine. I am leaning toward
the theory that what we are seeing now is merely the continuation of
the process of the fall of the Soviet Union. That process started in 1989
and is still going on (since everything in Russia takes on average about
30x longer than everywhere else). It's likely that Russia will break up into
several countries, peacefully, let's hope.

And Putin had a chance of turning Russia around. But in the end he
proved to be Yet Another Small Time Crook, like so many pathetic
little men in Russia before him.

--
Jan

JanPB wrote:

> There is nothing to discuss until Putin leaves Ukraine. I am leaning
> toward the theory that what we are seeing now is merely the continuation
> of the process of the fall of the Soviet Union. That process started in
> 1989 and is still going on (since everything in Russia takes on average

What an idiot. Man, you read too much mainstream media crap and are
brainwashed. It has NOTHING to do with "Soviet Union", you fucking stupid.
How can you be this idiot.

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 1:42:24 PM UTC-7, Rob Fujimoto wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
>
> > There is nothing to discuss until Putin leaves Ukraine. I am leaning
> > toward the theory that what we are seeing now is merely the continuation
> > of the process of the fall of the Soviet Union. That process started in
> > 1989 and is still going on (since everything in Russia takes on average
> What an idiot. Man, you read too much mainstream media crap and are
> brainwashed. It has NOTHING to do with "Soviet Union", you fucking stupid.
> How can you be this idiot.

This is actually an opinion of a former advisor of Putin.

--
Jan

JanPB wrote:

>> > There is nothing to discuss until Putin leaves Ukraine. I am leaning
>> > toward the theory that what we are seeing now is merely the
>> > continuation of the process of the fall of the Soviet Union. That
>> > process started in 1989 and is still going on (since everything in
>> > Russia takes on average
>> What an idiot. Man, you read too much mainstream media crap and are
>> brainwashed. It has NOTHING to do with "Soviet Union", you fucking
>> stupid.
>> How can you be this idiot.
>
> This is actually an opinion of a former advisor of Putin.

traitors. Would sell, even for nothing, chunks of own country and people,
to the capitalist collective west. Ie, the agricultural zones of "ukraine"
are owned by the west. The low paid workers are the locals, the production
and the profit goes to the capitalist west.

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:34:47 PM UTC-7, Rob Fujimoto wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
>
> >> > There is nothing to discuss until Putin leaves Ukraine. I am leaning
> >> > toward the theory that what we are seeing now is merely the
> >> > continuation of the process of the fall of the Soviet Union. That
> >> > process started in 1989 and is still going on (since everything in
> >> > Russia takes on average
> >> What an idiot. Man, you read too much mainstream media crap and are
> >> brainwashed. It has NOTHING to do with "Soviet Union", you fucking
> >> stupid.
> >> How can you be this idiot.
> >
> > This is actually an opinion of a former advisor of Putin.
> traitors.

No, you merely disagree with them and you have that picture of
Putin in your mind as a leader. The truth he is a small-time gangster,
just like most of Russian rulers over last several centuries. Until
Russians fix this and stop accepting pitiful small men as their
"leaders", the situation will continue, and Russia will continue
not being a partner to anyone in the world, just a felon country.

> Would sell, even for nothing, chunks of own country and people,
> to the capitalist collective west. Ie, the agricultural zones of "ukraine"
> are owned by the west. The low paid workers are the locals, the production
> and the profit goes to the capitalist west.

"Capitalist west" - hahaha, I know this phrase SO well.

Just tell your buddy Putin to leave Ukraine, then he can contact
me in Rome.

--
Jan

On Wednesday, 20 April 2022 at 04:32:45 UTC+2, JanPB wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:34:47 PM UTC-7, Rob Fujimoto wrote:
> > JanPB wrote:
> >
> > >> > There is nothing to discuss until Putin leaves Ukraine. I am leaning
> > >> > toward the theory that what we are seeing now is merely the
> > >> > continuation of the process of the fall of the Soviet Union. That
> > >> > process started in 1989 and is still going on (since everything in
> > >> > Russia takes on average
> > >> What an idiot. Man, you read too much mainstream media crap and are
> > >> brainwashed. It has NOTHING to do with "Soviet Union", you fucking
> > >> stupid.
> > >> How can you be this idiot.
> > >
> > > This is actually an opinion of a former advisor of Putin.
> > traitors.
> No, you merely disagree with them and you have that picture of

Eat shit an die, you other resident piece of retarded spamming shit.

*Plonk*

Julio

JanPB wrote:

>> > This is actually an opinion of a former advisor of Putin.
>> traitors.
>
> No, you merely disagree with them and you have that picture of Putin in
> your mind as a leader. The truth he is a small-time gangster,

Seemingly he must be a *political_actor*, not a leader. And gangster is
your apparently stinking nazi polakia, partnering a nazi nato criminal
illegal organization. Reason enough for which they should be locked in
forced labour camps the rest of their stinking life. Or executed,
conforming the international laws. They killed children in countries they
chose, committing *war_crimes*, not only illegally, but based on obvious
lies, known to be lies before proven to be lies. You lying son of a bitch.

>> Would sell, even for nothing, chunks of own country and people, to the
>> capitalist collective west. Ie, the agricultural zones of "ukraine"
>> are owned by the west. The low paid workers are the locals, the
>> production and the profit goes to the capitalist west.
>
> Just tell your buddy Putin to leave Ukraine, then he can contact me in
> Rome.

Is the russian *army* liberating the people from the nazis, along the
shithole temporary and accidentally called "ukraine", not Putin. Here's
what the nazi west *_knowingly_* is financing in nazi "ukraine".

Tour of an Azov Scam Call Center in Berdyansk, (now DPR)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zVJgm1nx7Qfa/