On 2022-01-10 19:53, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Mon, 10 Jan 2022 06:01:58 -0800) it happened
> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
> <aieotgd50q2np1e1kqrvr4h7pcq1u5hd40@4ax.com>:
>
>> Leeuwarden reminds me of where I grew up in New Orleans. Flat and just
>> about, or under, sea level. From my house, I used to look up at ships
>> on the Mississippi. I bet we had more bugs and alligators and
>> hurricanes than you do.
>
> None of that here, we are located way more north.
> But now we have a few wolves it seems
> those are spreading over Europe, sort of protected by the green pollyticksians,
> how idiotic those greens can be, those wolves attack sheep and cause damage to farmers.

Not to worry! We'll deal with them when they develop a taste for little
red riding hood's grandma.

Jeroen Belleman

On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 18:53:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Mon, 10 Jan 2022 06:01:58 -0800) it happened
>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
><aieotgd50q2np1e1kqrvr4h7pcq1u5hd40@4ax.com>:
>
>>Leeuwarden reminds me of where I grew up in New Orleans. Flat and just
>>about, or under, sea level. From my house, I used to look up at ships
>>on the Mississippi. I bet we had more bugs and alligators and
>>hurricanes than you do.
>
>None of that here, we are located way more north.
>But now we have a few wolves it seems
>those are spreading over Europe, sort of protected by the green pollyticksians,
>how idiotic those greens can be, those wolves attack sheep and cause damage to farmers.
>
>

We lately have a lot of coyotes in San Francisco. They have been seen
commuting across the Golden Gate Bridge.

On a recent walk, we saw a sign that said Coyote Warning... and
another that said Missing Cat...

We had a mountain lion a few blocks away from the house.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j9n5vm3r4mfjnyo/ML2.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hckvp0g4wh7gp3u/ML4.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/akbuang0jw3f481/ML6.jpg?raw=1

They trucked it south and let it go in the Santa Cruz mountains. I
hear that that same cat has come back.

We have possum, skunks, snakes, raccoons, ravens, hawks, squirrels,
and even a wild turkey roaming the streets. And a couple of flocks of
wild parrots.

--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:16:40 PM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 18:53:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On a sunny day (Mon, 10 Jan 2022 06:01:58 -0800) it happened
> >jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
> ><aieotgd50q2np1e1k...@4ax.com>:
> >
> >>Leeuwarden reminds me of where I grew up in New Orleans. Flat and just
> >>about, or under, sea level. From my house, I used to look up at ships
> >>on the Mississippi. I bet we had more bugs and alligators and
> >>hurricanes than you do.
> >
> >None of that here, we are located way more north.
> >But now we have a few wolves it seems
> >those are spreading over Europe, sort of protected by the green pollyticksians,
> >how idiotic those greens can be, those wolves attack sheep and cause damage to farmers.
> >
> >
> We lately have a lot of coyotes in San Francisco. They have been seen
> commuting across the Golden Gate Bridge.
>
> On a recent walk, we saw a sign that said Coyote Warning... and
> another that said Missing Cat...
>
> We had a mountain lion a few blocks away from the house.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j9n5vm3r4mfjnyo/ML2.jpg?raw=1
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hckvp0g4wh7gp3u/ML4.jpg?raw=1
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/akbuang0jw3f481/ML6.jpg?raw=1
>
> They trucked it south and let it go in the Santa Cruz mountains. I
> hear that that same cat has come back.
>
> We have possum, skunks, snakes, raccoons, ravens, hawks, squirrels,
> and even a wild turkey roaming the streets. And a couple of flocks of
> wild parrots.
> --
>
> I yam what I yam - Popeye

They've been saying that SF has gone to the dogs, but maybe it is the lions instead.

On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:08:23 -0800 (PST), Flyguy
<soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:16:40 PM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 18:53:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>> <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On a sunny day (Mon, 10 Jan 2022 06:01:58 -0800) it happened
>> >jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>> ><aieotgd50q2np1e1k...@4ax.com>:
>> >
>> >>Leeuwarden reminds me of where I grew up in New Orleans. Flat and just
>> >>about, or under, sea level. From my house, I used to look up at ships
>> >>on the Mississippi. I bet we had more bugs and alligators and
>> >>hurricanes than you do.
>> >
>> >None of that here, we are located way more north.
>> >But now we have a few wolves it seems
>> >those are spreading over Europe, sort of protected by the green pollyticksians,
>> >how idiotic those greens can be, those wolves attack sheep and cause damage to farmers.
>> >
>> >
>> We lately have a lot of coyotes in San Francisco. They have been seen
>> commuting across the Golden Gate Bridge.
>>
>> On a recent walk, we saw a sign that said Coyote Warning... and
>> another that said Missing Cat...
>>
>> We had a mountain lion a few blocks away from the house.
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j9n5vm3r4mfjnyo/ML2.jpg?raw=1
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hckvp0g4wh7gp3u/ML4.jpg?raw=1
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/akbuang0jw3f481/ML6.jpg?raw=1
>>
>> They trucked it south and let it go in the Santa Cruz mountains. I
>> hear that that same cat has come back.
>>
>> We have possum, skunks, snakes, raccoons, ravens, hawks, squirrels,
>> and even a wild turkey roaming the streets. And a couple of flocks of
>> wild parrots.
>> --
>>
>> I yam what I yam - Popeye
>
>They've been saying that SF has gone to the dogs, but maybe it is the lions instead.

I think it is illegal to walk about in public without a kid or a dog.

--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

On a sunny day (Mon, 10 Jan 2022 19:16:30 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<31tptgd6d1g0rmmopdmuo816iubqk1ap6j@4ax.com>:

>On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 18:53:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On a sunny day (Mon, 10 Jan 2022 06:01:58 -0800) it happened
>>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>><aieotgd50q2np1e1kqrvr4h7pcq1u5hd40@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>Leeuwarden reminds me of where I grew up in New Orleans. Flat and just
>>>about, or under, sea level. From my house, I used to look up at ships
>>>on the Mississippi. I bet we had more bugs and alligators and
>>>hurricanes than you do.
>>
>>None of that here, we are located way more north.
>>But now we have a few wolves it seems
>>those are spreading over Europe, sort of protected by the green pollyticksians,
>>how idiotic those greens can be, those wolves attack sheep and cause damage to farmers.
>>
>>
>
>We lately have a lot of coyotes in San Francisco. They have been seen
>commuting across the Golden Gate Bridge.
>
>On a recent walk, we saw a sign that said Coyote Warning... and
>another that said Missing Cat...
>
>We had a mountain lion a few blocks away from the house.
>
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/j9n5vm3r4mfjnyo/ML2.jpg?raw=1
>
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/hckvp0g4wh7gp3u/ML4.jpg?raw=1
>
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/akbuang0jw3f481/ML6.jpg?raw=1
>
>They trucked it south and let it go in the Santa Cruz mountains. I
>hear that that same cat has come back.
>
>We have possum, skunks, snakes, raccoons, ravens, hawks, squirrels,
>and even a wild turkey roaming the streets. And a couple of flocks of
>wild parrots.

Somebody shot a wolf here a few weeks back, almost a witchhunt started
for the 'bad' guy whodidit.
I would kill it too if it came up to me!
Very strange times we live in.

John Doe wrote:
> Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>
>>>>> Leeuwarden reminds me of where I grew up in New Orleans. Flat and
>>>>> just about, or under, sea level. From my house, I used to look up at
>>>>> ships on the Mississippi. I bet we had more bugs and alligators and
>>>>> hurricanes than you do.
>>>>
>>>> None of that here, we are located way more north. But now we have a
>>>> few wolves it seems those are spreading over Europe, sort of protected
>>>> by the green pollyticksians, how idiotic those greens can be, those
>>>> wolves attack sheep and cause damage to farmers.
>
> It's called "evil".
>
>>> We lately have a lot of coyotes in San Francisco. They have been seen
>>> commuting across the Golden Gate Bridge.
>>>
>>> On a recent walk, we saw a sign that said Coyote Warning... and another
>>> that said Missing Cat...
>>>
>>> We had a mountain lion a few blocks away from the house.
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j9n5vm3r4mfjnyo/ML2.jpg?raw=1
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hckvp0g4wh7gp3u/ML4.jpg?raw=1
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/akbuang0jw3f481/ML6.jpg?raw=1
>>>
>>> They trucked it south and let it go in the Santa Cruz mountains. I hear
>>> that that same cat has come back.
>>>
>>> We have possum, skunks, snakes, raccoons, ravens, hawks, squirrels,
>>> and even a wild turkey roaming the streets. And a couple of flocks of
>>> wild parrots.
>>
>> Somebody shot a wolf here a few weeks back, almost a witchhunt started
>> for the 'bad' guy whodidit. I would kill it too if it came up to me!
>> Very strange times we live in.
>
> The transgender bullies beating up on girls in sports issue is the most
> outrageous example ever. It's like the Twilight Zone. I always liked the
> Twilight Zone.
>
> We have skunks, raccoons, and possums. The skunks are a hazard/danger to
> backyard pets, they zapped my next-door neighbor's dog.

One time we were dog-sitting a friend's husky/collie mix. I let him out
the basement door about midnight to go do his business, and he decided
to investigate this interesting stripy animal....

He ran straight back toward me, running the side of his head along the
wet grass as he went. (It would have been very funny to see if I hadn't
known why he was doing it.)

Fortunately I had a gallon of white vinegar in the laundry room, so I
grabbed a towel and doused him. By the time I was done, he looked and
smelled like a giant furry brown pickle, but the skunk scent was
completely gone.

(Skunk scent is hydrolyzed by mild acids--a quart of lemon juice also
works. Yes, that means that dog got skunked at our house twice.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 6:48:23 PM UTC+11, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> John Doe wrote:
> > Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >>> Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >>>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

<snip>

> > We have skunks, raccoons, and possums. The skunks are a hazard/danger to
> > backyard pets, they zapped my next-door neighbor's dog.
> One time we were dog-sitting a friend's husky/collie mix. I let him out
> the basement door about midnight to go do his business, and he decided
> to investigate this interesting stripy animal....
>
> He ran straight back toward me, running the side of his head along the
> wet grass as he went. (It would have been very funny to see if I hadn't
> known why he was doing it.)
>
> Fortunately I had a gallon of white vinegar in the laundry room, so I
> grabbed a towel and doused him. By the time I was done, he looked and
> smelled like a giant furry brown pickle, but the skunk scent was
> completely gone.
>
> (Skunk scent is hydrolyzed by mild acids--a quart of lemon juice also
> works. Yes, that means that dog got skunked at our house twice.)

The active agents is tertiary butyl mercaptan - a thiol. The HS link is pretty easy to break.

I worked out a way of synthesising a precusor from thiourea and tertiary butyl chloride when I was an undergraduate, and we used it in a couple of student pranks.
Bicarbonate of soda freed up the thiol from an alcohol solution of the thiouronium salt precursor without hydrolysing the thiol link.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney