On 4/14/2022 11:50 AM, patdolan wrote:
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 7:25:27 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 4/14/2022 5:41 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 14 April 2022 at 11:15:46 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>> Michael Moroney <mor...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> And these results, just as with Eddington's eclipse results, have never
>>>>>> been duplicated.
>>>>
>>>>> Wrong. As to Eddington, do you realize that there have been many
>>>>> eclipses since 1919? And once we had the ability to launch satellites,
>>>>> eclipses weren't even necessary any longer? All a satellite needs is a
>>>>> sun shield disk to make its own "eclipse". Guess what? GR confirmed
>>>>> each and every time.
>>>> Gravitational light deflection has been demonstrated to much better
>>>> accuracy both by VLBI and by astrometry using GAIA data,
>>>> No eclipses are needed, no need to look close to the sun,
>> Yes, eclipses first became unnecessary when they started using
>> radioastronomy tracking quasars and when satellites could block the sun
>> on their own.
>
> There is no data. You refer to hypothetical thought experiments that morphed into actual completed experiments through the process of science folklore. You will find no data.

There is data, data from real experiments. You just have to look for it.
Don't bury your head in the sand.

Just like there is data for the 1922 repetition of the 1919 Eddington
experiment. The difference is, instead of a few stars whose positions
were tracked, the 1922 observation had 3,000 stars tracked.

Michael Moroney wrote:

> Just like there is data for the 1922 repetition of the 1919 Eddington
> experiment. The difference is, instead of a few stars whose positions
> were tracked, the 1922 observation had 3,000 stars tracked

No, old ship, gained a bit of fire. But hey, in america high buildings crashes from a kitchen fire. Building seven, as I understood. Proofs:

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On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 8:48:12 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:

> There is no GAIA data.

Do you have to work really hard to be so f'ing stupid?

https://gea.esac.esa.int/archive/

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 7:10:55 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 8:48:12 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
>
> > There is no GAIA data.
> Do you have to work really hard to be so f'ing stupid?
>
> https://gea.esac.esa.int/archive/

A thorough search of the data base shows no data consistent with the bending of starlight.

patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 7:10:55 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 8:48:12 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
>>
>>> There is no GAIA data.
>> Do you have to work really hard to be so f'ing stupid?
>>
>> https://gea.esac.esa.int/archive/
>
> A thorough search of the data base shows no data consistent with the bending of starlight.
>

You have a funny understanding of “thorough”.

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Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 8:48:12 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
>
> > There is no GAIA data.
>
> Do you have to work really hard to be so f'ing stupid?
>
> https://gea.esac.esa.int/archive/

Yes, and why stop halfway with denialism,
when you can also insist that GAIA doesn't exist at all?
Or better yet, that all spacecraft don't really exist?

And the Earth is flat too,

Jan

On Friday, 15 April 2022 at 23:06:27 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Paul Alsing <pnal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 8:48:12 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> >
> > > There is no GAIA data.
> >
> > Do you have to work really hard to be so f'ing stupid?
> >
> > https://gea.esac.esa.int/archive/
> Yes, and why stop halfway with denialism,

And why did you, poor halfbrain? Does GPS
clocks run at proper, 9 192 631 770 rate?
Yes or no?

Tom Roberts wrote:

>> But this is plain heresy, coming from a pure breed relativist.
>
> No, it is just standard General Relativity. And I am not a "pure breed
> relativist", I am just a physicist who has studied and understands
> relativity, and is willing to explain it to others.

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