https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220905-is-the-world-overpopulated

About 1.5-2 billion people would be the ideal hooman population of Earth!

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 4:24:12 AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220905-is-the-world-overpopulated
>
> About 1.5-2 billion people would be the ideal hooman population of Earth!

Only a few tens of millions of "c petersons", "a gores", or "t swifts."

Luckily, we and the Earth don't have to endure that.

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 7:03:32 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 4:24:12 AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220905-is-the-world-overpopulated
> >
> > About 1.5-2 billion people would be the ideal hooman population of Earth!
> Only a few tens of millions of "c petersons", "a gores", or "t swifts."
>
> Luckily, we and the Earth don't have to endure that.

I guess, we have to breed more Ws for the planet?
😱🤔

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 11:31:11 AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 7:03:32 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 4:24:12 AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220905-is-the-world-overpopulated
> > >
> > > About 1.5-2 billion people would be the ideal hooman population of Earth!
> > Only a few tens of millions of "c petersons", "a gores", or "t swifts."
> >
> > Luckily, we and the Earth don't have to endure that.
> I guess, we have to breed more Ws for the planet?
> 😱🤔

This is not about me, it's about you.
You are concerned about overpopulation?
What is your ecological footprint compared to the average world citizen's?

On 9/6/22 04:24, StarDust wrote:
> https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220905-is-the-world-overpopulated
>
> About 1.5-2 billion people would be the ideal hooman population of Earth!

The world is on the verge of a massive economic collapse. While that is
occurring, there will be massive starvation, shortages and illness the
like of which man has not seen since the black plague. Once completed,
the world's population will only be 10% of what it is now. This
population cleansing will not occur immediately, but over a period of a
century or two. There is still time to avoid this option, but most
folks continue to think about themselves rather than the greater good,
whatever that is anymore, which has also become distorted almost beyond
redemption.

People in this age refuse to listen. The same has happened many times
throughout history and the result has always corrected itself.

With population reduction in place,the world will renew itself. Climate
change will wither and the folks left in charge will do what they are
supposed to do rather than succumbing to massive corruption like now.

I had hoped I wouldn't live to see this as the initial stages won't be
very pretty, but now I doubt I'll escape this life before the drama
starts to unfold.

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 12:05:03 PM UTC-7, wAYNE wrote:
> On 9/6/22 04:24, StarDust wrote:

> > https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220905-is-the-world-overpopulated
> >
> > About 1.5-2 billion people would be the ideal hooman population of Earth!

> The world is on the verge of a massive economic collapse.

So... just exactly what evidence do you have to support such a claim? Do you have a track record of such claims to fall back on when questioned about it?

Or, are you just making shit up as you go along? Inquiring minds want to know...

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:07:49 PM UTC-6, palsing wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 12:05:03 PM UTC-7, wAYNE wrote:

> > The world is on the verge of a massive economic collapse.

> So... just exactly what evidence do you have to support such a claim?

He may not have convincing evidence of... the *details*... of such
a claim.

However, the Western industrialized world has been in a severe
economic malaise ever since about 1968, with high levels of
unemployment, worsened by the rise of OPEC in 1973.

This has led to unrest, and one recent obvious manifestation of
that was how Donald J. Trump managed to get elected President
of the United States in 2016 - and despite his catastrophic
mismanagement of the COVID pandemic, and despite the events of
January 6, 2021, he still has widespread support in the U.S..

As you may be aware, we have of late seen a significant increase
in extreme weather events that appears to be related to anthropogenic
global warming. Just the other day, I saw a news item about how the
Thwaites glacier in Antarctica might soon give way.

And there are news reports talking about how we may be shifting to
a "multipolar world"; this would be one where Russia conquers
Ukraine *and* the Baltics, Red China conquers Taiwan, and the
male Jews of Israel are exterminated, the females being provided
to Muslim households.

And the war in Ukraine *has* severely impacted food supplies, even
if the people of Europe, North America, and Australia still have
enough to eat.

Another pandemic? Another "Dust Bowl" like in the Thirties? Some
Trump-alike getting elected in the U.S.? Continental Europe getting
Finlandized by the new assertive Russia, so that the UK becomes
the only remaining European member of NATO? The Renminbi
becoming the world's new reserve currency?

Distressing events like that seem less and less unlikely with each
passing day.

Catastrophic famines in the Third World, with China posing as
its savior while the Western democracies are focused on taking
care of themselves, leading to their greater isolation?

Entirely possible; just one more link needs to fail on top of the
Ukraine war - and this is perhaps one reason why some in the
Third World would prefer Ukraine to surrender immediately, so
that the food shipments could return to normal as soon as
possible, not caring about the goals achieved by our aid to
Ukraine.

The world has lots of problems lately, and global warming is allowed
to go on unchecked, making several of them worse. It may take
several decades before its consequences get dramatic, but at the
rate we're going in dealing with it, that won't stop the disaster from
coming.

John Savard

On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 17:07:47 -0700 (PDT), palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 12:05:03 PM UTC-7, wAYNE wrote:
>> On 9/6/22 04:24, StarDust wrote:
>
>> > https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220905-is-the-world-overpopulated
>> >
>> > About 1.5-2 billion people would be the ideal hooman population of Earth!
>
>> The world is on the verge of a massive economic collapse.
>
>So... just exactly what evidence do you have to support such a claim? Do you have a track record of such claims to fall back on when questioned about it?
>
>Or, are you just making shit up as you go along? Inquiring minds want to know...

Well, our ecosystem is collapsing. And our political system is
failing. And our economy is increasingly non-functional.

I don't know what the outcome is going to be, but it isn't promising.

On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 8:39:02 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 17:07:47 -0700 (PDT), palsing <pnal...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 12:05:03 PM UTC-7, wAYNE wrote:
> >> On 9/6/22 04:24, StarDust wrote:
> >
> >> > https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220905-is-the-world-overpopulated
> >> >
> >> > About 1.5-2 billion people would be the ideal hooman population of Earth!
> >
> >> The world is on the verge of a massive economic collapse.
> >
> >So... just exactly what evidence do you have to support such a claim? Do you have a track record of such claims to fall back on when questioned about it?
> >
> >Or, are you just making shit up as you go along? Inquiring minds want to know...
> Well, our ecosystem is collapsing. And our political system is
> failing. And our economy is increasingly non-functional.
>
> I don't know what the outcome is going to be, but it isn't promising.

Outcome is war, as always!
1929 world wide stock markets, banks collapsed, 7 years depression followed.
WW2 brought the world out of the economical chaos !
WW3 is upon us, I think!
Too much debt in the western world.

On 9/6/22 20:07, palsing wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 12:05:03 PM UTC-7, wAYNE wrote:
>> On 9/6/22 04:24, StarDust wrote:
>
>>> https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220905-is-the-world-overpopulated
>>>
>>> About 1.5-2 billion people would be the ideal hooman population of Earth!
>
>> The world is on the verge of a massive economic collapse.
>
> So... just exactly what evidence do you have to support such a claim? Do you have a track record of such claims to fall back on when questioned about it?

Take a look around you. I would suggest that as a start. Then pick up
any ancient text to find out what happened to civilizations once they
became advanced and corrupted. Perhaps the Romans.

> Or, are you just making shit up as you go along? Inquiring minds want to know...

People often wonder if there's anyone "out there." Maybe one reason we
may never know, putting aside the tremendous distances involved, might
be that advancing civilizations are part of a cycle.... developing,
reaching their peak, and then dying/ destroyed. If anyone's left, it
all starts over again. If not, the planet is dead.

If you actually see an optimistic side to what's going on in the world
right now, an "inquiring mind" might want to know that for sure......

On 9/7/22 08:20, RichA wrote:
> On Tuesday, 6 September 2022 at 04:24:12 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
>> https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220905-is-the-world-overpopulated
>>
>> About 1.5-2 billion people would be the ideal hooman population of Earth!
>
> 20 billion. Then lack of food starts.

Wishful thinking. We're already past our limit now.

On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 5:20:28 AM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> On Tuesday, 6 September 2022 at 04:24:12 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220905-is-the-world-overpopulated
> >
> > About 1.5-2 billion people would be the ideal hooman population of Earth!
> 20 billion. Then lack of food starts.

20 billion?
Hoomans have to live like monks,
in order to survive!
😱😭

On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 8:06:04 AM UTC-7, wAYNE wrote:
> On 9/7/22 08:20, RichA wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 6 September 2022 at 04:24:12 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> >> https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220905-is-the-world-overpopulated
> >>
> >> About 1.5-2 billion people would be the ideal hooman population of Earth!
> >
> > 20 billion. Then lack of food starts.
> Wishful thinking. We're already past our limit now.

Not yet, but many have to give up luxurious living!