Rocksolid Light

Welcome to novaBBS (click a section below)

mail  files  register  newsreader  groups  login

Message-ID:  

Are we running light with overbyte?


tech / sci.electronics.design / Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garage

SubjectAuthor
* This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageJan Panteltje
+* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageRick C
|+- Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageJan Panteltje
|`- Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageJasen Betts
+* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garagewhit3rd
|+* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageDimiter_Popoff
||`* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garagejlarkin
|| `* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageDimiter_Popoff
||  `* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garagejlarkin
||   `* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageDimiter_Popoff
||    `* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageJan Panteltje
||     `* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageDimiter_Popoff
||      `- Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageJan Panteltje
|+* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageJan Panteltje
||+- Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garagethree_jeeps
||`* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageBrent Locher
|| `- Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageJan Panteltje
|`- Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageAnthony William Sloman
+* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garagewmartin
|`* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageJan Panteltje
| `* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageCydrome Leader
|  `* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageAnthony William Sloman
|   `- Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageCydrome Leader
`* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageTom Del Rosso
 `* Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageRick C
  `- Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garageCydrome Leader

Pages:12
Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garage

<st1lj3$7qs$1@reader1.panix.com>

  copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/tech/article-flat.php?id=88797&group=sci.electronics.design#88797

  copy link   Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Path: i2pn2.org!rocksolid2!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.panix2.panix.com!not-for-mail
From: prese...@MUNGEpanix.com (Cydrome Leader)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garage
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 21:01:23 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
Message-ID: <st1lj3$7qs$1@reader1.panix.com>
References: <ssh64s$g9q$1@dont-email.me> <st0taf$bma$1@dont-email.me> <c087350d-ae27-4328-94c5-5a2517a6857bn@googlegroups.com>
Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 21:01:23 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: reader1.panix.com; posting-host="panix2.panix.com:166.84.1.2";
logging-data="8028"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com"
User-Agent: tin/2.6.0-20210823 ("Coleburn") (NetBSD/9.2 (amd64))
 by: Cydrome Leader - Fri, 28 Jan 2022 21:01 UTC

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 10:07:18 AM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>> Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> > This 22-year-old builds chips in his parents\u2019 garage
>> > https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/01/this-22-year-old-builds-chips-in-his-parents-garage/
>> >
>> > more than 1000 transistors on it...
>> How can he connect it? Did he get a wire bond machine from ebay too?
>>
>> The wire bond machines have always been the part of the process that I
>> find most impressive, because they combine precision with fast moving
>> parts.
>
> You mean like pick and place machines? They may not have quite as much accuracy, but they are certainly in the same ball park. I see mentions of 0.001" or 25 um. How accurate are wire bonding machines? I see one mention of 2.5 um. So maybe 10x?
>
> Pick and Place has to maintain these numbers over distances ranging towards a meter. Wire bonding only needs to operate over a range of a cm or so. I know wire bonding is very fast, but for pick and place the long distance and the weight of the object being placed is much more in some cases. Handling a wide range of sizes is not easy either. I wonder just how long they maintain these specs as they wear?
>
> I find it interesting to watch a pick and place operate. One I saw had multiple heads so multiple pieces could be picked up with less movement while being placed.

A manually operated wire bonder doesn't look any different from a fancy
optical microscope. I was recently told quite a bit of this work is still
done by hand. The one I saw had no wire instaled, so I didn't get to play
with it for real.

Pages:12
server_pubkey.txt

rocksolid light 0.9.81
clearnet tor