Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1033f544-82e2-41c7-86bf-97ab9572d8c7n@googlegroups.com:

> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 2:29:05 PM UTC-8, whit3rd wrote:
>> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 1:31:01 PM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
>>
>> > I said foreigner. Bill is in Australia. He is a foreigner for
>> > the USA.
>> Good point; and since there's a couple of hundred countries, and
>> this is an open forum, there's about a 1:200 expected ratio of
>> nonforeigner:foreigner for our purposes.
>
> Foreigner is not a bad word.

Except for the way YOU used it, dumbfucktard.

> I am a foreigner in another country.

All the more reason you should know better than the stupid shit you
pulled, jackass.

> It's only bad when i am meddling with their political system.

It is only bad when you open your mouth at all, punk.

>> Voting misfeasance was how the Spanish civil war aided Hitler's
>> arms buildup... it's NOT a local concern only, when votes are
>> mistreated.
>
> There is not such thing. Said the Democrats when they won.

OMG! You are an absolute total retard!

>> International concern is appropriate. Snark about all the
>> foreigners in the world is an attempt to foster xenophobia, and
>> Ed Lee should expect about 200:1 disapproval on that.
>
> Not too many of them meddle in US politics.

And it isn't for you to judge, FUCKHEAD!

It is utmost hypocrisy for the OP to use violent threat, racial slur and demeaning statements to promote his idea of protecting minorities/immigrants with voting rights. So, he is suppressing the very same group he claims to protect.

People here disagree on issues, but with restraints on personal attack. OP crossed the line with violent threat and racial slur that are immoral, if not illegal. If that is the true nature of the Democratic Party he is promoting, we know better not to support it.

In typical cultural/racial supremacy person's deep inner mind, minorities/immigrants are second class citizens. Their deficiency must first be revealed in low-level primitive languages. They are demeaned first, and then be protected. A typical response is to huminate their origin, or the way they talk or write.

To hide their real feelings, supremacy group is often very active in promoting and protecting minority interests, but in fact suppressing them.

When such person feel threaten to be revealed, he often resort to repeated abuse
ive statments and insults to mask out his own fear and anger.
~

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.
>
> So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?

The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at lea.st it intends to move in a sensible direction.

They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.

We definitely wished to see Trump booted out - the US should probably be getting on with prosecuting him for his crimes, but that is your problem - and Biden is a whole lot better, if still stuck with trying to get an oxcart constitution to deal with space-age problems. China has even worse problems.. Europe is doing better, but not all that much better.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.
> >
> > So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?
>
> The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at lea.st it intends to move in a sensible direction.
>
> They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.

The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling. I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.

>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
>
> The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.

Inflation is because of all the additional spendings with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden. I don't blame or credit either Trump or Biden for the pandemic. They are equally bad, but predictable. There are too many factors outside President's control.

> We definitely wished to see Trump booted out - the US should probably be getting on with prosecuting him for his crimes, but that is your problem - and Biden is a whole lot better, if still stuck with trying to get an oxcart constitution to deal with space-age problems. China has even worse problems. Europe is doing better, but not all that much better.

But China and Europe are burning lots of coal now. Australia should be happy.

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:53:10 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 6:49:29 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> > whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > news:5b1deced-4c42-4d3b...@googlegroups.com:
> > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 1:31:01 PM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
> > >
> > >> I said foreigner. Bill is in Australia. He is a foreigner for the USA.
> > >
> > > Good point; and since there's a couple of hundred countries, and
> > > this is an open forum, there's about a 1:200 expected ratio of
> > > nonforeigner:foreigner for our purposes.
> > >
> > > Voting misfeasance was how the Spanish civil war aided Hitler's
> > > arms buildup... it's NOT a local concern only, when votes are
> > > mistreated.
> > >
> > > International concern is appropriate. Snark about all the
> > > foreigners in the world is an attempt to foster xenophobia, and Ed
> > > Lee should expect about 200:1 disapproval on that.
> > >
> > Isn't it Lee "Ed" Ming? Or is it Ming "Ed" Lee?
> >
> > Whatever. The punk deserved it.
>
> It is utmost hypocrisy for the OP to use violent threat, racial slur and demeaning statements to promote his idea of protecting minorities/immigrants with voting rights. So, he is suppressing the very same group he claims to protect.

He's not being rude to a whole minority, just to one rather dim individual who happens to be a member of that minority.

He being anti-idiot, rather than anti-Chinese, however much you prefer to think that you were suffering from anti-Chinese prejudice, rather than earned contempt.

> People here disagree on issues, but with restraints on personal attack. OP crossed the line with violent threat and racial slur that are immoral, if not illegal. If that is the true nature of the Democratic Party he is promoting, we know better not to support it.

There's nothing immoral about pointing out that you are stupid. You may not like his choice of language, but none of it strikes me as either immoral or illegal.

> In typical cultural/racial supremacy person's deep inner mind, minorities/immigrants are second class citizens. Their deficiency must first be revealed in low-level primitive languages. They are demeaned first, and then be protected. A typical response is to humiliate their origin, or the way they talk or write.

Your problem is that your silly ideas do all the demeaning that is necessary. We are just pointing out where you have got it wrong, since you don't seem to be bright enough to work it out for yourself.

> To hide their real feelings, supremacy group is often very active in promoting and protecting minority interests, but in fact suppressing them.
>
> When such person feel threaten to be revealed, he often resort to repeated abusive statements and insults to mask out his own fear and anger.

And half-wits from the minority group cry prejudice when their half-witted idiocies get the the responses they deserve. Check out what we say to Flyguy sometime.

He seems to think that he is part of the privileged majority, rather than one more half-wit.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.
> > >
> > > So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?
> >
> > The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at lea.st it intends to move in a sensible direction.
> >
> > They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.
> The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling. I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
> >
> > The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.
>
> Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.

You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.

The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.

> I don't blame or credit either Trump or Biden for the pandemic.

It's not the pandemic that's the problem here, but Trump's failure to stop it becoming an epidemic in the US. He wasn't the only leader to do as badly, but some did quite a bit better. Biden isn't in a position to root the infection out of the US population -it was much too well established there when he finally came to power.

> They are equally bad, but predictable. There are too many factors outside President's control.

Not as many as Trump tried to claim.

> > We definitely wished to see Trump booted out - the US should probably be getting on with prosecuting him for his crimes, but that is your problem - and Biden is a whole lot better, if still stuck with trying to get an oxcart constitution to deal with space-age problems. China has even worse problems. Europe is doing better, but not all that much better.

> But China and Europe are burning lots of coal now. Australia should be happy.

The mining interests in Australia are delighted. People who are negatively influenced by climate change - and there are a lot more of them, though they have less money - are much less happy.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > > Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.
> > > >
> > > > So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?
> > > ou
> > > The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at lea.st it intends to move in a sensible direction.
> > >
> > > They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.
> > The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling. I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
> > >
> > > The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.
> >
> > Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.
>
> You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.

You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system with money.

> The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.

That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:39:32 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > > > Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?
> > > >
> > > > The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at least it intends to move in a sensible direction.
> > > >
> > > > They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.
> > > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
> > >
> > > The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling.

And you think that you know this because some Republican propaganda told you that? Sucker.

> > > I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.

Actually, Australia is burning less coal because the utilities companies have noticed that solar cells and wind turbines produce electricity more cheaply than burning coal in coal-fired power stations. Parts of the world haven't got the message yet.

> > > > The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.
> > >
> > > Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.
> >
> > You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.
>
> You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system with money.

It was their contribution to preventing Covid-19 from creating an actual economic depression. Right-wing lunatics don't understand Keynesian economics, but know that they don't like them.

> > The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.
>
> That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.

If you can't get enough food or oil to the places where you can sell it, people will pay more to get some of what they can get. The shortages may be local, but so is the consumption.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:29:02 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:39:32 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > > > > Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?
> > > > >
> > > > > The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at least it intends to move in a sensible direction.
> > > > >
> > > > > They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
> > > >
> > > > The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling.
> And you think that you know this because some Republican propaganda told you that? Sucker.

I don't listen to Reps or Dems. I do my own DD.

> > > > I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.
> Actually, Australia is burning less coal because the utilities companies have noticed that solar cells and wind turbines produce electricity more cheaply than burning coal in coal-fired power stations. Parts of the world haven't got the message yet.

Australia is just exporting all the coal for the rest of the world to green-house up. Burning oil or gas would be far less damaging.

> > > > > The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.
> > > >
> > > > Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.
> > >
> > > You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.
> >
> > You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system with money.
> It was their contribution to preventing Covid-19 from creating an actual economic depression. Right-wing lunatics don't understand Keynesian economics, but know that they don't like them.
> > > The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.
> >
> > That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.
> If you can't get enough food or oil to the places where you can sell it, people will pay more to get some of what they can get. The shortages may be local, but so is the consumption.

In some case, Beef and Chicken close to double from before Covid, but there are no shortage of them. There is no supply chain related issue.

For auto, there are supply chain issue, but people can live with keeping old cars.

Housing cost is another major problem because there are so much money in the system and interest rate is so low.

The Biden dictated Fed should have tapered a year ago.

Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
news:b44f28f0-eafb-43fe-b594-e2da27e2bb9an@googlegroups.com:

>> Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that
>> the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling -
>> merely having an opinion.
>
> So, how satisfying

Satisfying? It isn't food, dipshit.

> are foreigner with the resulting Democratic
> Biden Administration?

You really are having word problems. BOTH sides are "Democratic"
fool.

> Even if we skip Afgan,

You really are one stupid fuck. The Afghanistan exodus issues were
Trump's fault. TRUMP made the visas to get out difficult to get, and
then halted the visa issuance process altogether. All BEFORE the end
of 2020. You have enough of a vocabulary to do that math, chump?
Trump was the reason they were all stuck outside the airport. But I
do not expect a TrumpTarded idiot like you to understand facts, even
while you spout claims that are not based on any. The very people
retarded twerps like you claim Biden abandoned were in fact abandoned
by Trump.

> $93+ oil,

You mumbling about yet another market you know nothing about is
laughable. Hey, numbers punk, did you factor in the costs imposed by
the pandemic? Yeah, I didn't think so. You really are stupid.

> 7%+
> inflation,

Yet another number you obviously have zero clue as to how it
becomes what it is.

> are you guys

There you go separating yourself from Americans... again.

> still happy with your wished(elected)

Fuck you, TrumpTard jackass! 81 M voters - 81 M state reported
votes = exactly ZERO freaudulent votes, you retarded
chinkfucktardamericanwannabepieceofshit!

> US
> President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?

I wish I could call you out for a morning duel, like American men
used to settle scores. You would have a 2 millisecond lead breakfast
right before your head explodes. But alas those days are gone. I
will have to settle for calling you the most retarded punk to ever
post in this group. But know you know what I would wish for in a
right world. CCAD motherfucker.

Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
news:13b66694-c766-4144-a419-ecfe5d4bc533n@googlegroups.com:

> People here disagree on issues, but with restraints on personal
> attack.

Which is... AGAIN... why you got slapped, punk.

Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
news:13b66694-c766-4144-a419-ecfe5d4bc533n@googlegroups.com:

> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 6:49:29 PM UTC-8,
> DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
>> whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:5b1deced-4c42-4d3b...@googlegroups.com:
>> > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 1:31:01 PM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
>> >
>> >> I said foreigner. Bill is in Australia. He is a foreigner for
>> >> the USA.
>> >
>> > Good point; and since there's a couple of hundred countries,
>> > and this is an open forum, there's about a 1:200 expected ratio
>> > of nonforeigner:foreigner for our purposes.
>> >
>> > Voting misfeasance was how the Spanish civil war aided Hitler's
>> > arms buildup... it's NOT a local concern only, when votes are
>> > mistreated.
>> >
>> > International concern is appropriate. Snark about all the
>> > foreigners in the world is an attempt to foster xenophobia, and
>> > Ed Lee should expect about 200:1 disapproval on that.
>> >
>> Isn't it Lee "Ed" Ming? Or is it Ming "Ed" Lee?
>>
>> Whatever. The punk deserved it.
>
> It is utmost hypocrisy for the OP to use violent threat,

There was no threat of any kind, much less a violent one, idiot.

> racial
> slur and demeaning statements to promote his idea of protecting
> minorities/immigrants with voting rights.

I was promoting nothing, idiot. I was slappin' you upside da haed
for spouting stupid shit at Bill. Period. That is all.

> So, he is suppressing
> the very same group he claims to protect.

WTF are you mumbling about, boy?
> People here disagree on issues, but with restraints on personal
> attack.

Which is why you got bitch slapped, stupid bitch.

> OP crossed the line with violent threat

There was no threat, you lying piece of shit.

> and racial slur
> that are immoral, if not illegal.

What slur? You "picked" an "American name". It happens all the
time, and amazingly I get along with those people. All I did was ask
you if you came over, and chose the name yourself, or if your parents
came over and they gave you the name. And you went stupid. And you
still missed the point of why you were being chastised.

> If that is the true nature of
> the Democratic Party he is promoting,

I never said a fucking thing about any party, dumbfuck. The site I
posted a link to was about voting, you stupid twerp.

> we know better not to
> support it.

So, how many distinct personalities did the doctor tell you that
you have?
snipped pure word salad utter stupidity.

This from a fucking punk who did not make a single post in this
thread that spoke on the web page it pointed to which the entire post
was about

You are soooooo stupid.

Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:6a260be6-e5c0-4be4-
a674-72042c3c6d13n@googlegroups.com:

> Independent Fed is a joke.

Retarded "Ed" is a joke.

CCAD Ed

Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
news:6a260be6-e5c0-4be4-a674-72042c3c6d13n@googlegroups.com:

> The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system with
> money.

You're an idiot. Just like the idiot who said they are printing money
that isn't backed.

The system should flush you. And stupid TrumpCult idiots like you.

Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
news:6a260be6-e5c0-4be4-a674-72042c3c6d13n@googlegroups.com:

> That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy.
> There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.

You have the logistical acumen of a freshly laid dog turd.

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 3:40:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:29:02 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:39:32 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > > > > > Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at least it intends to move in a sensible direction.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
> > > > >
> > > > > The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling.
> > And you think that you know this because some Republican propaganda told you that? Sucker.
> I don't listen to Reps or Dems. I do my own DD.
> > > > > I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.
> > Actually, Australia is burning less coal because the utilities companies have noticed that solar cells and wind turbines produce electricity more cheaply than burning coal in coal-fired power stations. Parts of the world haven't got the message yet.
>
> Australia is just exporting all the coal for the rest of the world to green-house up. Burning oil or gas would be far less damaging.

Somewhat less damaging. Most of the energy comes from the oxidation of the carbon in hydrocarbons, so burning even methane only give you half the CO2 per kilowatt.hour.

> > > > > > The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.
> > > > >
> > > > > Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.
> > > >
> > > > You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't..
> > >
> > > You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system with money.
> >
> > It was their contribution to preventing Covid-19 from creating an actual economic depression. Right-wing lunatics don't understand Keynesian economics, but know that they don't like them.
> >
> > > > The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.
> > >
> > > That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.
> >
> > If you can't get enough food or oil to the places where you can sell it, people will pay more to get some of what they can get. The shortages may be local, but so is the consumption.
>
> In some case, Beef and Chicken close to double from before Covid, but there are no shortage of them. There is no supply chain related issue.

So what is producing the increased price?

> For auto, there are supply chain issues, but people can live with keeping old cars.
>
> Housing cost is another major problem because there are so much money in the system and interest rate is so low.
>
> The Biden dictated Fed should have tapered a year ago.

Biden scarcely had a chance to dictate the the Fed a year ago - he'd only just been elected and the whole point about the Fed is that is independent, even if you don't want to believe this.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:3a0aa2b6-dad6-45e1-
89da-0280cb68be37n@googlegroups.com:

> I don't listen to Reps or Dems. I do my own DD.

Dipshitted Dawdling. Figures.

You failed to vet a proven lifelong criminal and believed his
pathetic, petty lies. Where was your precious DD then?

The only diligence you did was Trump's Doogy Diligence.

Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:3a0aa2b6-dad6-45e1-
89da-0280cb68be37n@googlegroups.com:

> There is no supply chain related issue.

Then it is greedy food store behavior STILL NOT Biden's fault, IDIOT!
More likely greedy Republitards trying to make things harder on him
and all of us.

Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
news:cf29a5d6-e4db-481b-8ba5-664ffecdb433n@googlegroups.com:

> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org
> wrote:
>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
>> > > Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish
>> > > that the
> US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely
> having an opinion.
>> >
>> > So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic
>> > Biden Ad
> ministration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+
> inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US
> President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?
>>
>> The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's
>> predece
> ssor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political
> system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at
> lea.st it intends to move in a sensible direction.
>>
>> They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan.
>> They ha
> ven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US
> government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be
> too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.
>
> The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies,
> killing pipeline and restricting drilling.

You are absolutely full of shit. The pipleine and halting of
drilling had ZERO effect on the OPEC oil price you keep spouting off
about. Damn you are stupid, boy. ZERO CONNECTION. ZERO DIRECT OR
INDIRECT CONSEQUENCE. Nice try though idiot.

> I know you want the
> world to use less oil, but what is the alternative?

Damn, you elementary school level republitard idiots have ZERO
grasp of what is going on.

> Coal? Oh
> yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using
> much more coal now.

You are an idiot. PARTS of the world is, idiot. Like China. You
know that ZERO pollution policy commie nation.

The rest of us are paring down. I do not expect you to get the big
words though.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
>>
>> The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps
>> failure to c
> ontain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government
> did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent
> supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices in Australia too,
> if only half as much.
>
> Inflation is because of all the additional spendings with Biden
> and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.

Ummmm.... No. Wrong again, little boy.

> I don't blame or
> credit either Trump or Biden for the pandemic.

You are an idiot and now also prove that you have no grasp as to
what does or does not drive an economy or inflation within one.

> They are equally
> bad, but predictable.

You are wholly stupid... and you are wholly stupid.

> There are too many factors outside
> President's control.

That is what we have been telling YOU, idiot.
>> We definitely wished to see Trump booted out - the US should
>> probably be
> getting on with prosecuting him for his crimes, but that is your
> problem - and Biden is a whole lot better, if still stuck with
> trying to get an oxcart constitution to deal with space-age
> problems. China has even worse problems. Europe is doing better,
> but not all that much better.
>
> But China and Europe are burning lots of coal now. Australia
> should be happy.

We would be happy if you found a lake of fire and dove in.

>

On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 10:54:05 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 3:40:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:29:02 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:39:32 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at least it intends to move in a sensible direction.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling.
> > > And you think that you know this because some Republican propaganda told you that? Sucker.
> > I don't listen to Reps or Dems. I do my own DD.
> > > > > > I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.
> > > Actually, Australia is burning less coal because the utilities companies have noticed that solar cells and wind turbines produce electricity more cheaply than burning coal in coal-fired power stations. Parts of the world haven't got the message yet.
> >
> > Australia is just exporting all the coal for the rest of the world to green-house up. Burning oil or gas would be far less damaging.
> Somewhat less damaging. Most of the energy comes from the oxidation of the carbon in hydrocarbons, so burning even methane only give you half the CO2 per kilowatt.hour.
> > > > > > > The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.
> > > >
> > > > You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system with money.
> > >
> > > It was their contribution to preventing Covid-19 from creating an actual economic depression. Right-wing lunatics don't understand Keynesian economics, but know that they don't like them.
> > >
> > > > > The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.
> > > >
> > > > That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.
> > >
> > > If you can't get enough food or oil to the places where you can sell it, people will pay more to get some of what they can get. The shortages may be local, but so is the consumption.
> >
> > In some case, Beef and Chicken close to double from before Covid, but there are no shortage of them. There is no supply chain related issue.
> So what is producing the increased price?

General Inflation: feed stock, refrigeration and shipping costs.
Everything is up in price, especially Beef and Chicken.
Feel good PPI/CPI are less than 10% a year, but real prices doubled in past couple years.

> > For auto, there are supply chain issues, but people can live with keeping old cars.
> >
> > Housing cost is another major problem because there are so much money in the system and interest rate is so low.
> >
> > The Biden dictated Fed should have tapered a year ago.
> Biden scarcely had a chance to dictate the the Fed a year ago - he'd only just been elected and the whole point about the Fed is that is independent, even if you don't want to believe this.

The Fed must be re-appointed one year into the presidential cycle. When your (the Fed) job is on the line, you listen to what the boss said. It took strong minded President (Reagan) and Fed (Volgar) to fight inflationary pressure. Biden and Powell are not.

Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
news:3c970079-c782-416e-b876-f8ea2e312a76n@googlegroups.com:

> The Fed must be re-appointed one year into the presidential cycle.

Fuck you, retarded twerp!

> When your (the Fed) job is on the line, you listen to what the
> boss said.

You mumble a lot, dipshit. When your integrity as an educated person
is on the line, Ed Lee fails miserably.

> It took strong minded President (Reagan) and Fed
> (Volgar) to fight inflationary pressure.

It was a different time then, and certainly one that did not have a
deadly virus with rampant contagious efficacy in it.

You really do like leaving out the one thing Trump screwed up so
badly on, and that means that you are also blind as to it effects, much
less when they started taking.

Your grasp of the bigger picture rest firmly at NIL.

> Biden and Powell are
> not.

Ed Lee is NOT intelligent. Ed Lee IS a Trump Cult idiot.

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:31:36 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 10:54:05 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 3:40:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:29:02 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:39:32 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at least it intends to move in a sensible direction.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling.
> > > > And you think that you know this because some Republican propaganda told you that? Sucker.
> > > I don't listen to Reps or Dems. I do my own DD.
> > > > > > > I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.
> > > > Actually, Australia is burning less coal because the utilities companies have noticed that solar cells and wind turbines produce electricity more cheaply than burning coal in coal-fired power stations. Parts of the world haven't got the message yet.
> > >
> > > Australia is just exporting all the coal for the rest of the world to green-house up. Burning oil or gas would be far less damaging.
> > Somewhat less damaging. Most of the energy comes from the oxidation of the carbon in hydrocarbons, so burning even methane only give you half the CO2 per kilowatt.hour.
> > > > > > > > The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system with money.
> > > >
> > > > It was their contribution to preventing Covid-19 from creating an actual economic depression. Right-wing lunatics don't understand Keynesian economics, but know that they don't like them.
> > > >
> > > > > > The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.
> > > >
> > > > If you can't get enough food or oil to the places where you can sell it, people will pay more to get some of what they can get. The shortages may be local, but so is the consumption.
> > >
> > > In some case, Beef and Chicken close to double from before Covid, but there are no shortage of them. There is no supply chain related issue.
> > So what is producing the increased price?
> General Inflation: feed stock, refrigeration and shipping costs.
> Everything is up in price, especially Beef and Chicken.
> Feel good PPI/CPI are less than 10% a year, but real prices doubled in past couple years.
> > > For auto, there are supply chain issues, but people can live with keeping old cars.
> > >
> > > Housing cost is another major problem because there are so much money in the system and interest rate is so low.
> > >
> > > The Biden dictated Fed should have tapered a year ago.
>
> > Biden scarcely had a chance to dictate the the Fed a year ago - he'd only just been elected and the whole point about the Fed is that is independent, even if you don't want to believe this.
>
> The Fed must be re-appointed one year into the presidential cycle. When your (the Fed) job is on the line, you listen to what the boss said.

But you don't wreck the economy in a effort to hang onto your job. For a start, it wouldn't work.

> It took strong minded President (Reagan) and Fed (Volgar) to fight inflationary pressure. Biden and Powell are not.

Reagan wasn't "strong-minded". He was showing early signs of Alzheimer's when he was running for his second term, He was on the right in politics, and that does come with an obsession about inflation which means that he and his allies were happy to damage the economy to keep inflation low.

He presided over a "recession from July 1981 to November 1982 during which unemployment rose to 9.7% and GDP fell by 1.9%. Additionally, income growth slowed for middle- and lower-class (2.4% to 1.8%) and rose for the upper-class (2.2% to 4.83%)".

That was the point where US economic inequality started to rise, and it has been going up ever since, with damaging effect on US society.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Level_(book)

"Reaganomics" was widely and justly derided. Do you remember the Laffer Curver? It's the kind of oversimplified nonsense that goes down well with right-wingers.
Margaret Thatcher in the UK had the same silly ideas and seriously damaged the British economy in the process - I was living there at the time, and had the benefit of Will Hutton's commentary in my newspaper. He was the Guardian's economic correspondent at the time, and had good links with university economists. He had a habit of noting the Thatcher-inspired treasury predictions, and contrasted them with academic opinion. Six month's later he'd write a "told you so" piece.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 5:52:00 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:31:36 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 10:54:05 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 3:40:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:29:02 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:39:32 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at least it intends to move in a sensible direction.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling.
> > > > > And you think that you know this because some Republican propaganda told you that? Sucker.
> > > > I don't listen to Reps or Dems. I do my own DD.
> > > > > > > > I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.
> > > > > Actually, Australia is burning less coal because the utilities companies have noticed that solar cells and wind turbines produce electricity more cheaply than burning coal in coal-fired power stations. Parts of the world haven't got the message yet.
> > > >
> > > > Australia is just exporting all the coal for the rest of the world to green-house up. Burning oil or gas would be far less damaging.
> > > Somewhat less damaging. Most of the energy comes from the oxidation of the carbon in hydrocarbons, so burning even methane only give you half the CO2 per kilowatt.hour.
> > > > > > > > > The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system with money.
> > > > >
> > > > > It was their contribution to preventing Covid-19 from creating an actual economic depression. Right-wing lunatics don't understand Keynesian economics, but know that they don't like them.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you can't get enough food or oil to the places where you can sell it, people will pay more to get some of what they can get. The shortages may be local, but so is the consumption.
> > > >
> > > > In some case, Beef and Chicken close to double from before Covid, but there are no shortage of them. There is no supply chain related issue.
> > > So what is producing the increased price?
> > General Inflation: feed stock, refrigeration and shipping costs.
> > Everything is up in price, especially Beef and Chicken.
> > Feel good PPI/CPI are less than 10% a year, but real prices doubled in past couple years.
> > > > For auto, there are supply chain issues, but people can live with keeping old cars.
> > > >
> > > > Housing cost is another major problem because there are so much money in the system and interest rate is so low.
> > > >
> > > > The Biden dictated Fed should have tapered a year ago.
> >
> > > Biden scarcely had a chance to dictate the the Fed a year ago - he'd only just been elected and the whole point about the Fed is that is independent, even if you don't want to believe this.
> >
> > The Fed must be re-appointed one year into the presidential cycle. When your (the Fed) job is on the line, you listen to what the boss said.
> But you don't wreck the economy in a effort to hang onto your job. For a start, it wouldn't work.

But we are wrecking the poor people with inflation instead. Most of the QE went into stock/real estate wealth.

> > It took strong minded President (Reagan) and Fed (Volgar) to fight inflationary pressure. Biden and Powell are not.
> Reagan wasn't "strong-minded". He was showing early signs of Alzheimer's when he was running for his second term, He was on the right in politics, and that does come with an obsession about inflation which means that he and his allies were happy to damage the economy to keep inflation low.

Reagan's second term was/is similar to Biden's first term, both was/is showing Alzheimer. But Reagan/Volgar was determined enough in his first term to fight inflation hard and tough. So far, i only hear the Biden/Powell talking, but yet to see any action.

On 2/8/2022 9:50 AM, Ed Lee wrote:

>>> The Fed must be re-appointed one year into the presidential cycle. When your (the Fed) job is on the line, you listen to what the boss said.
>> But you don't wreck the economy in a effort to hang onto your job. For a start, it wouldn't work.
>
> But we are wrecking the poor people with inflation instead. Most of the QE went into stock/real estate wealth.
>
>>> It took strong minded President (Reagan) and Fed (Volgar) to fight inflationary pressure. Biden and Powell are not.
>> Reagan wasn't "strong-minded". He was showing early signs of Alzheimer's when he was running for his second term, He was on the right in politics, and that does come with an obsession about inflation which means that he and his allies were happy to damage the economy to keep inflation low.
>
> Reagan's second term was/is similar to Biden's first term, both was/is showing Alzheimer. But Reagan/Volgar was determined enough in his first term to fight inflation hard and tough. So far, i only hear the Biden/Powell talking, but yet to see any action.

"Ladies and gentlemen, as your president I have signed an executive
order outlawing opposition parties forever, and Congress is hereby
dissolved until further notice. Furthermore my lawyers have drafted a
brief outlining the full Constitutionality of my actions, any members of
the Supreme Court who feel otherwise, or government employees in
general, will be allowed a grace period of 30 minutes to tender their
resignations.

In my capacity as commander and chief of the military I have issued a
standing order for our armed forces to enforce my executive order.

Thank you for your cooperation!"

Whoever the next Republican president is I figure they're gonna be a
"man of action" or nothing

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 7:14:47 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
> On 2/8/2022 9:50 AM, Ed Lee wrote:
>
> >>> The Fed must be re-appointed one year into the presidential cycle. When your (the Fed) job is on the line, you listen to what the boss said.
> >> But you don't wreck the economy in a effort to hang onto your job. For a start, it wouldn't work.
> >
> > But we are wrecking the poor people with inflation instead. Most of the QE went into stock/real estate wealth.
> >
> >>> It took strong minded President (Reagan) and Fed (Volgar) to fight inflationary pressure. Biden and Powell are not.
> >> Reagan wasn't "strong-minded". He was showing early signs of Alzheimer's when he was running for his second term, He was on the right in politics, and that does come with an obsession about inflation which means that he and his allies were happy to damage the economy to keep inflation low.
> >
> > Reagan's second term was/is similar to Biden's first term, both was/is showing Alzheimer. But Reagan/Volgar was determined enough in his first term to fight inflation hard and tough. So far, i only hear the Biden/Powell talking, but yet to see any action.
> "Ladies and gentlemen, as your president I have signed an executive
> order outlawing opposition parties forever, and Congress is hereby
> dissolved until further notice. Furthermore my lawyers have drafted a
> brief outlining the full Constitutionality of my actions, any members of
> the Supreme Court who feel otherwise, or government employees in
> general, will be allowed a grace period of 30 minutes to tender their
> resignations.
>
> In my capacity as commander and chief of the military I have issued a
> standing order for our armed forces to enforce my executive order.
>
> Thank you for your cooperation!"
>
> Whoever the next Republican president is I figure they're gonna be a
> "man of action" or nothing

And the Democratic president would say: I am going to promise you freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class citizen.