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* Aioe.orgThe Starmaker
+* Re: Aioe.orgRichard Hertz
|+* Re: Aioe.orgThe Starmaker
||+- Re: Aioe.orgRichard Hertz
||`- Re: Aioe.orgThe Starmaker
|`* Re: Aioe.orgJ. J. Lodder
| `* Re: Aioe.orgRoss A. Finlayson
|  `* Re: Aioe.orgRichard Hertz
|   +* Re: Aioe.orgPaparios
|   |`- Re: Aioe.orgRichard Hertz
|   `* Re: Aioe.orgJ. J. Lodder
|    `* Re: Aioe.orgMaciej Wozniak
|     `* Re: Aioe.orgwhodat
|      +* Re: Aioe.orgMaciej Wozniak
|      |`* Re: Aioe.orgJ. J. Lodder
|      | `- Re: Aioe.orgMaciej Wozniak
|      +* Re: Aioe.orgRichard Hertz
|      |+- Re: Aioe.orgRoss A. Finlayson
|      |`* Re: Aioe.orgJ. J. Lodder
|      | `* Re: Aioe.orgRichard Hertz
|      |  `* Re: Aioe.orgJ. J. Lodder
|      |   +* Re: Aioe.orgRichard Hertz
|      |   |+* Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityDono.
|      |   ||+* Re:Richard Hertz
|      |   |||`* Utter cretin Dick Heratz keeps on eating shitDono.
|      |   ||| `* Re: Utter cretin Dick Heratz keeps on eating shitRichard Hertz
|      |   |||  `* Re: Utter cretin Dick Heratz keeps on eating shitDono.
|      |   |||   `- Re: Utter cretin Dick Heratz keeps on eating shitMaciej Wozniak
|      |   ||+- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityThe Starmaker
|      |   ||`* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   || `* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityDono.
|      |   ||  +* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||  |+* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityDono.
|      |   ||  ||+* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityMaciej Wozniak
|      |   ||  |||+- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityDono.
|      |   ||  |||`- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityMaciej Wozniak
|      |   ||  ||`* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||  || +* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityDono.
|      |   ||  || |`* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||  || | `* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityDono.
|      |   ||  || |  `- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||  || `- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityMaciej Wozniak
|      |   ||  |`- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityMaciej Wozniak
|      |   ||  `* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityProkaryotic Capase Homolog
|      |   ||   +- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityDono.
|      |   ||   +* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||   |+* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityProkaryotic Capase Homolog
|      |   ||   ||+- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||   ||`* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityProkaryotic Capase Homolog
|      |   ||   || +* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||   || |+* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityRichD
|      |   ||   || ||`- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||   || |`* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityrotchm
|      |   ||   || | `- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||   || +- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityMaciej Wozniak
|      |   ||   || +* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityProkaryotic Capase Homolog
|      |   ||   || |`* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||   || | `- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityMaciej Wozniak
|      |   ||   || +- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityRichard Hertz
|      |   ||   || `- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityMaciej Wozniak
|      |   ||   |`* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityStan Fultoni
|      |   ||   | +- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilitypatdolan
|      |   ||   | +- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilitypatdolan
|      |   ||   | +- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||   | +* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityStan Fultoni
|      |   ||   | |+- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||   | |+* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityStan Fultoni
|      |   ||   | ||`* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||   | || +* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityStan Fultoni
|      |   ||   | || |`- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||   | || `- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityMaciej Wozniak
|      |   ||   | |`- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityMaciej Wozniak
|      |   ||   | +* Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityRoss A. Finlayson
|      |   ||   | |`- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityJ. J. Lodder
|      |   ||   | +- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityMaciej Wozniak
|      |   ||   | `- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityRoss A. Finlayson
|      |   ||   `- Re: Utter cretin Richard Hertz blames GR for his own imbecilityRichD
|      |   |`* Re: Aioe.orgJ. J. Lodder
|      |   | `* Re: Aioe.orgMaciej Wozniak
|      |   |  `* Re: Aioe.orgJ. J. Lodder
|      |   |   `* Re: Aioe.orgMaciej Wozniak
|      |   |    `* Re: Aioe.orgJ. J. Lodder
|      |   |     `- Re: Aioe.orgMaciej Wozniak
|      |   `- Re: Aioe.orgMaciej Wozniak
|      `* Re: Aioe.orgwhodat
|       +- Re: Aioe.orgJ. J. Lodder
|       `* Re: Aioe.orgMaciej Wozniak
|        `* Re: Aioe.orgwhodat
|         +* Re: Aioe.orgMaciej Wozniak
|         |`* Re: Aioe.orgwhodat
|         | +* Re: Aioe.orgMaciej Wozniak
|         | |`* Re: Aioe.orgwhodat
|         | | `- Re: Aioe.orgMaciej Wozniak
|         | `* Re: Aioe.orgRichard Hertz
|         |  `* Crank Dick Hertz eats shitDono.
|         |   `- Re: Crank Dick Hertz eats shitMaciej Wozniak
|         `* Re: Aioe.orgpatdolan
|          `- Re: Aioe.orgJ. J. Lodder
+* Re: Aioe.orgJ. J. Lodder
|`* Re: Aioe.orgRichard Hertz
| `- Re: Aioe.orgRichard Hertz
+- Re: Aioe.orgRichard Hertz
+* Re: Aioe.orgClutterfreak
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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 3 May 2022 05:03 UTC

for those who use free newsservers...

if i'm not mistaken

sci.physics.relativity is on the banlist now as of today.

https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/

nntp.aioe.org:
news.aioe.org:

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 3 May 2022 05:17 UTC

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:03:32 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> for those who use free newsservers...
>
> if i'm not mistaken
>
> sci.physics.relativity is on the banlist now as of today.
>
>
> https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>
> nntp.aioe.org:
> news.aioe.org:
>
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

Bodkin, Moroney and many others are banned then?

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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 3 May 2022 06:49 UTC

Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:03:32 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > for those who use free newsservers...
> >
> > if i'm not mistaken
> >
> > sci.physics.relativity is on the banlist now as of today.
> >
> >
> > https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
> >
> > nntp.aioe.org:
> > news.aioe.org:
> >
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> Bodkin, Moroney and many others are banned then?

Well no, they are not banned, the newsgroup sci.physics.relativity is
banned on newsserver Aioe.org

they just have to scramble to find another newsserver..
I'm not aware of any free newsservers that carry sci.physics.relativity

so that means they have to pay for a newsserver to post to
sci.physics.relativity

There is still google groups, but I'm not sure you can ...'path
preloading', etc.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 3 May 2022 14:32 UTC

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:49:32 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:03:32 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > for those who use free newsservers...
> > >
> > > if i'm not mistaken
> > >
> > > sci.physics.relativity is on the banlist now as of today.
> > >
> > >
> > > https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
> > >
> > > nntp.aioe.org:
> > > news.aioe.org:
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > Bodkin, Moroney and many others are banned then?
> Well no, they are not banned, the newsgroup sci.physics.relativity is
> banned on newsserver Aioe.org
>
> they just have to scramble to find another newsserver..
> I'm not aware of any free newsservers that carry sci.physics.relativity
>
> so that means they have to pay for a newsserver to post to
> sci.physics.relativity
>
>
> There is still google groups, but I'm not sure you can ...'path
> preloading', etc.
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

Last post from Bodkin, almost 24 hours ago. Something happened to his posts. I assume the same for Moroney and others
using Aioe.

Subject: Re: A Precise Statement of Time Dilation
From: Odd Bodkin
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 by: J. J. Lodder - Tue, 3 May 2022 14:46 UTC

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> for those who use free newsservers...
>
> if i'm not mistaken
>
> sci.physics.relativity is on the banlist now as of today.
>
>
> https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>
> nntp.aioe.org:
> news.aioe.org:

I have mailed abuse@aioe.org to tell them that blocking s.p.rel
is a very bad idea, and asked them to reconsider.
And I realy don't see what that abuse is supposed to be.

I suggest others here do likewise.

Jan

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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 3 May 2022 15:08 UTC

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:46:04 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > for those who use free newsservers...
> >
> > if i'm not mistaken
> >
> > sci.physics.relativity is on the banlist now as of today.
> >
> >
> > https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
> >
> > nntp.aioe.org:
> > news.aioe.org:
> I have mailed ab...@aioe.org to tell them that blocking s.p.rel
> is a very bad idea, and asked them to reconsider.
> And I realy don't see what that abuse is supposed to be.
>
> I suggest others here do likewise.
>
>
> Jan

I think that it's due to different posts with content related to what's happening in Eastern Europe.

I didn't know that censorship was going to be so deep in the West. Aioe NNTP server is physically located at Germany.

I deeply regret that I posted several times concerning that topic. I could never imagine that censorship was so harsh.

I should have known better, after all that I read happening at Western Europe.

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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 3 May 2022 15:52 UTC

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 12:08:41 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:46:04 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > > for those who use free newsservers...
> > >
> > > if i'm not mistaken
> > >
> > > sci.physics.relativity is on the banlist now as of today.
> > >
> > >
> > > https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
> > >
> > > nntp.aioe.org:
> > > news.aioe.org:
> > I have mailed ab...@aioe.org to tell them that blocking s.p.rel
> > is a very bad idea, and asked them to reconsider.
> > And I realy don't see what that abuse is supposed to be.
> >
> > I suggest others here do likewise.
> >
> >
> > Jan
> I think that it's due to different posts with content related to what's happening in Eastern Europe.
>
> I didn't know that censorship was going to be so deep in the West. Aioe NNTP server is physically located at Germany.
>
> I deeply regret that I posted several times concerning that topic. I could never imagine that censorship was so harsh.
>
> I should have known better, after all that I read happening at Western Europe.

This is the last post from Moroney, dated last Friday.

Then, since when Aioe is banning this group?. Moroney usually posts 4 or 5 times a day.

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On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:03:32 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> for those who use free newsservers...
>
> if i'm not mistaken
>
> sci.physics.relativity is on the banlist now as of today.
>
>
> https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>
> nntp.aioe.org:
> news.aioe.org:
>
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

Moroney is posting at sci.physics, which is not banned by Aioe.org.

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Maybe Bodkin should try posting there, or use Google groups.

Google forbids cross-posting between newsgroups, so he can't divert his Aioe.org posts to this newsgroup.

He will have to use a paid service to remain anonymous. Same with Moroney and others.

Freedom of speech my ass.

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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 3 May 2022 17:49 UTC

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:03:32 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > for those who use free newsservers...
> > >
> > > if i'm not mistaken
> > >
> > > sci.physics.relativity is on the banlist now as of today.
> > >
> > >
> > > https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
> > >
> > > nntp.aioe.org:
> > > news.aioe.org:
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > Bodkin, Moroney and many others are banned then?
>
> Well no, they are not banned, the newsgroup sci.physics.relativity is
> banned on newsserver Aioe.org
>
> they just have to scramble to find another newsserver..
> I'm not aware of any free newsservers that carry sci.physics.relativity
>
> so that means they have to pay for a newsserver to post to
> sci.physics.relativity
>
> There is still google groups, but I'm not sure you can ...'path
> preloading', etc.

yous people are a little tooo close to the trees to see the forest...

the chineese communist government are
trying to rid of free speech by attacking
free newservers posters. They want to bring down Usenet.
Usenet is the last free speech frontier.

the chineese communist government already own the biden adminstration...
and they implement chineese communist government polices in all
adminstrations throughout the world.

wake up!

https://www.youtube.com/embed/JRVfGMjdGh8

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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 by: Clutterfreak - Tue, 3 May 2022 19:37 UTC

On 5/3/2022 12:03 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> for those who use free newsservers...
>
> if i'm not mistaken
>
> sci.physics.relativity is on the banlist now as of today.
>
>
> https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>
> nntp.aioe.org:
> news.aioe.org:
>
>

AIOE is not real usenet. It is like Google Groups; i.e., is essentially
fraudulent as far as usenet is concerned.

Any usenet provider that disables effective and easy kill-filing is a
fraud designed to encourage spammers and psychos and other forms of
unwanted traffic. Especially when they're also free!

Among free newsservers always look for one that makes kill-filing very
effective, cause without it at some point you'll get discouraged to be
in usenet.

Just for show, the fraudulent providers usually allow kill-filing only
at the level of someone's alias. This is itself a fraudulent feature.
Because the number one way psychos and spammers continue to thrive is to
constantly choose a new alias.

The message headers furnished to a reader, by a provider, must give the
reader a culprit's _unique_ piece of information that would stay the
same regardless of what alias he chooses to do his spamming under via
that provider.

If that information is missing, that "free" usenet provider is there to
destroy usenet.

AIOE is one. It does not allow the readers access to such a unique piece
of information about the spammer.

How do they say it, "Avoid it at all cost!" :)

--
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 by: J. J. Lodder - Tue, 3 May 2022 20:37 UTC

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:03:32 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > for those who use free newsservers...
> >
> > if i'm not mistaken
> >
> > sci.physics.relativity is on the banlist now as of today.
> >
> >
> > https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
> >
> > nntp.aioe.org:
> > news.aioe.org:
> >
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> Bodkin, Moroney and many others are banned then?

They can switch to another free usenet provider,
Eternal September for example,

Jan

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 by: Ross A. Finlayson - Tue, 3 May 2022 20:51 UTC

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 1:37:43 PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:03:32 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > for those who use free newsservers...
> > >
> > > if i'm not mistaken
> > >
> > > sci.physics.relativity is on the banlist now as of today.
> > >
> > >
> > > https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
> > >
> > > nntp.aioe.org:
> > > news.aioe.org:
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > Bodkin, Moroney and many others are banned then?
> They can switch to another free usenet provider,
> Eternal September for example,
>
> Jan

I started designing and implementing a "usenet".

The Big 8 text groups don't have a totally outrageous volume,
about implementing "essentially well-defined resources what
implement a usenet" (peer, portal).

And web and mailbox interfaces for same, ..., all Internet standards.

"Meta: a usenet server for sci.math, ...."

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I think that Bodkin is having a nervous breakdown by now.

He can't fulfill his quota of 20-30 posts a day, since 2014. Also Moroney, Python and many others.

Who's going to defend relativity, science and Einstein now?

He will be forced to come out of the closet and use Google groups or be quiet for a while.

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El martes, 3 de mayo de 2022 a las 17:45:10 UTC-4, Richard Hertz escribió:
> I think that Bodkin is having a nervous breakdown by now.
>
> He can't fulfill his quota of 20-30 posts a day, since 2014. Also Moroney, Python and many others.
>
> Who's going to defend relativity, science and Einstein now?
>
> He will be forced to come out of the closet and use Google groups or be quiet for a while.

Don't you worry, We are still a good bunch of guys who can read and laugh of all your nonsensical posting.

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On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:42:57 PM UTC-3, Paparios wrote:
> El martes, 3 de mayo de 2022 a las 17:45:10 UTC-4, Richard Hertz escribió:
> > I think that Bodkin is having a nervous breakdown by now.
> >
> > He can't fulfill his quota of 20-30 posts a day, since 2014. Also Moroney, Python and many others.
> >
> > Who's going to defend relativity, science and Einstein now?
> >
> > He will be forced to come out of the closet and use Google groups or be quiet for a while.
> Don't you worry, We are still a good bunch of guys who can read and laugh of all your nonsensical posting.

It seems that you are the only idiot left from such "bunch", and you lack sense of humor, Miguelito.

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Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think that Bodkin is having a nervous breakdown by now.
>
> He can't fulfill his quota of 20-30 posts a day, since 2014. Also Moroney,
> Python and many others.
>
> Who's going to defend relativity, science and Einstein now?

Why defending? This group exists for amusement,

Jan

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On Wednesday, 4 May 2022 at 09:34:55 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think that Bodkin is having a nervous breakdown by now.
> >
> > He can't fulfill his quota of 20-30 posts a day, since 2014. Also Moroney,
> > Python and many others.
> >
> > Who's going to defend relativity, science and Einstein now?
> Why defending?

Because that's what your insane Shit has trained you
for, poor halfbrain.

> This group exists for amusement,

:)))))

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On 5/4/2022 2:54 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Wednesday, 4 May 2022 at 09:34:55 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that Bodkin is having a nervous breakdown by now.
>>>
>>> He can't fulfill his quota of 20-30 posts a day, since 2014. Also Moroney,
>>> Python and many others.
>>>
>>> Who's going to defend relativity, science and Einstein now?
>> Why defending?
>
> Because that's what your insane Shit has trained you
> for, poor halfbrain.

Actually relativity needs no defense because it functions as intended
and nobody has been able to replace it.

>> This group exists for amusement,
>
> :)))))

Yes indeed, I get a good laugh now and again.

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On Wednesday, 4 May 2022 at 17:24:28 UTC+2, whodat wrote:
> On 5/4/2022 2:54 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 4 May 2022 at 09:34:55 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think that Bodkin is having a nervous breakdown by now.
> >>>
> >>> He can't fulfill his quota of 20-30 posts a day, since 2014. Also Moroney,
> >>> Python and many others.
> >>>
> >>> Who's going to defend relativity, science and Einstein now?
> >> Why defending?
> >
> > Because that's what your insane Shit has trained you
> > for, poor halfbrain.
> Actually relativity needs no defense because it functions as intended
> and nobody has been able to replace it.

In the meantime in the real world, however, forbidden
by your insane religion GPS and TAI keep measuring
t'=t, just like all serious clocks always did.

> >> This group exists for amusement,
> >
> > :)))))
> Yes indeed, I get a good laugh now and again.

And that's also the reason why your fellow stinkers
scream about odious nazi kapos and drunken janitors.

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On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 12:24:28 PM UTC-3, whodat wrote:

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> Actually relativity needs no defense because it functions as intended
> and nobody has been able to replace it.

How come it function as intended? A metaphysical fairy tail to be used as a pool of ideas for scify books and movies? Then it's correct.

But regarding the intentions behind relativity, they were clearly used to break real physics and prevent advances in theoretical analysis.
This happens when you mess with TIME, as it's used in applied mathematics (on the limits of amount of motion and mass).

Thankfully, 99.99% of physicists didn't use relativity at all, and it's relegated to the pseudosciences of cosmology and particle physics.

So far, relativity didn't provide any help to the advance of civilization, except for providing a living to 50,000 parasites in the entire world.

In 110 years, it contributed with NOTHING to society. ZERO. ZIP.

Metaphysics, because Mathematics IS NOT Physics, and trying to force mathematical developments to fit what is perceived from nature
is THE WRONG WAY to develop theories.

String theory, BBT, QFT, QED, QCD, Lambda-CDM, etc., have failed miserably and became sectarian branches of pseudo-science, like
Astrology.

Newtonian physics has prevailed all the time, and evolved to more complex models to explain reality without MESSING with TIME, SPACE,
mass bending spacetime and related relativistic shit.

The MAIN PROBLEM with newtonian physics, when applied to celestial bodies, is to find a way to define the speed of gravity. Once this
issue is settled, everything else will make sense in celestial mechanics (at galaxy level or cluster of galaxies level).

Meanwhile, on Earth and neighborhood, the main rules of motion are serving mankind at its finest level. Nothing else is needed so far.

E=mc2 is a debatable expression, which has been ADOPTED (never proven), and has its roots in Newton-Maxwell conceptions of the
way nature works.

Relativity is a sterile line of thought that has been progressively degenerating, due to inbreeding with retrofitted developments. Now, the
whole stack of theories that comprises relativity vision of the world is just GARBAGE, without any use for it.

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 by: Ross A. Finlayson - Wed, 4 May 2022 16:30 UTC

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 9:16:09 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 12:24:28 PM UTC-3, whodat wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > Actually relativity needs no defense because it functions as intended
> > and nobody has been able to replace it.
> How come it function as intended? A metaphysical fairy tail to be used as a pool of ideas for scify books and movies? Then it's correct.
>
> But regarding the intentions behind relativity, they were clearly used to break real physics and prevent advances in theoretical analysis.
> This happens when you mess with TIME, as it's used in applied mathematics (on the limits of amount of motion and mass).
>
> Thankfully, 99.99% of physicists didn't use relativity at all, and it's relegated to the pseudosciences of cosmology and particle physics.
>
> So far, relativity didn't provide any help to the advance of civilization, except for providing a living to 50,000 parasites in the entire world.
>
> In 110 years, it contributed with NOTHING to society. ZERO. ZIP.
>
> Metaphysics, because Mathematics IS NOT Physics, and trying to force mathematical developments to fit what is perceived from nature
> is THE WRONG WAY to develop theories.
>
> String theory, BBT, QFT, QED, QCD, Lambda-CDM, etc., have failed miserably and became sectarian branches of pseudo-science, like
> Astrology.
>
> Newtonian physics has prevailed all the time, and evolved to more complex models to explain reality without MESSING with TIME, SPACE,
> mass bending spacetime and related relativistic shit.
>
> The MAIN PROBLEM with newtonian physics, when applied to celestial bodies, is to find a way to define the speed of gravity. Once this
> issue is settled, everything else will make sense in celestial mechanics (at galaxy level or cluster of galaxies level).
>
> Meanwhile, on Earth and neighborhood, the main rules of motion are serving mankind at its finest level. Nothing else is needed so far.
>
> E=mc2 is a debatable expression, which has been ADOPTED (never proven), and has its roots in Newton-Maxwell conceptions of the
> way nature works.
>
> Relativity is a sterile line of thought that has been progressively degenerating, due to inbreeding with retrofitted developments. Now, the
> whole stack of theories that comprises relativity vision of the world is just GARBAGE, without any use for it.

String theory is plenty strong: just another atomism after nuclear atomism.

I.e. superstrings are about as many orders of magntiude smaller than
"atoms" than atoms are us.

For a continuum mechanics, nothing wrong with QED, QCD, ....

SUSY, SU^N gauge theory, supergravity, ....

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Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 4 May 2022 at 17:24:28 UTC+2, whodat wrote:
> > On 5/4/2022 2:54 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, 4 May 2022 at 09:34:55 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > >> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I think that Bodkin is having a nervous breakdown by now.
> > >>>
> > >>> He can't fulfill his quota of 20-30 posts a day, since 2014. Also
> > >>> Moroney, Python and many others.
> > >>>
> > >>> Who's going to defend relativity, science and Einstein now?
> > >> Why defending?
> > >
> > > Because that's what your insane Shit has trained you
> > > for, poor halfbrain.
> > Actually relativity needs no defense because it functions as intended
> > and nobody has been able to replace it.
>
> In the meantime in the real world, however, forbidden
> by your insane religion GPS and TAI keep measuring
> t'=t, just like all serious clocks always did.

So it is still to hard for you to understand
that there is only only TAI,
and that it always agrees with itsef,
(how could it be oterwise?)

Jan

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Wed, 4 May 2022 18:04 UTC

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 12:24:28 PM UTC-3, whodat wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Actually relativity needs no defense because it functions as intended
> > and nobody has been able to replace it.
>
> How come it function as intended? A metaphysical fairy tail to be used as
> a pool of ideas for scify books and movies? Then it's correct.
>
> But regarding the intentions behind relativity, they were clearly used to
> break real physics and prevent advances in theoretical analysis. This
> happens when you mess with TIME, as it's used in applied mathematics (on
> the limits of amount of motion and mass).
>
> Thankfully, 99.99% of physicists didn't use relativity at all, and it's
> relegated to the pseudosciences of cosmology and particle physics.

Au contraire, -all- of physics depends on it.
All precision measurement and standards setting
depends on accurate timekeeping, and accurate timekeeping
depends on having the relativistic corrections correct.

And yes, people who work at standards labs,
like BIPM or NIST know it.
All others take their standards from them,

Jan

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 by: Richard Hertz - Wed, 4 May 2022 18:27 UTC

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 3:04:39 PM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> > Thankfully, 99.99% of physicists didn't use relativity at all, and it's
> > relegated to the pseudosciences of cosmology and particle physics.

> Au contraire, -all- of physics depends on it.
> All precision measurement and standards setting
> depends on accurate timekeeping, and accurate timekeeping
> depends on having the relativistic corrections correct.
>
> And yes, people who work at standards labs,
> like BIPM or NIST know it.
> All others take their standards from them,
>
> Jan

Are you out of your mind? You have to be a very delusional person if you try to connect atomic clocks to ANY relativistic correction!

Stop spreading lies and being deceptive, and download books and papers on the topic of atomic clocks, INCLUDING state of the
art crystal lattice optical clocks, which are claimed to be accurate to 1 femtosecond, while operating at frequencies 100,000 times
above 10 Ghz cesium clocks.

Find out, and present evidence here, that THE SLIGHTEST TRACE of relativity is being used with them.

Also, find out about chinese researchers working on optical clocks, 100 times more accurate than NIST or BIMP prototypes (because
optical clocks have not been validated as any type of standard YET).

As I wrote before, relativity is a dead para-science, closer to the realm of metaphysics married with new_age_philosophy. Confined
ONLY to the grounds of cosmology and particle physics, where results CAN'T BE DEMONSTRATED, so they lack accountability.

Pure bla, bla, bla, with ZERO EVIDENCE and the impossibility to prove that results aren't cooked or are just a wet dream.

Those two areas are more a terrain for topics on scify movies or books, than anything else.

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On Wednesday, 4 May 2022 at 20:04:38 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, 4 May 2022 at 17:24:28 UTC+2, whodat wrote:
> > > On 5/4/2022 2:54 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, 4 May 2022 at 09:34:55 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > >> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I think that Bodkin is having a nervous breakdown by now.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> He can't fulfill his quota of 20-30 posts a day, since 2014. Also
> > > >>> Moroney, Python and many others.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Who's going to defend relativity, science and Einstein now?
> > > >> Why defending?
> > > >
> > > > Because that's what your insane Shit has trained you
> > > > for, poor halfbrain.
> > > Actually relativity needs no defense because it functions as intended
> > > and nobody has been able to replace it.
> >
> > In the meantime in the real world, however, forbidden
> > by your insane religion GPS and TAI keep measuring
> > t'=t, just like all serious clocks always did.
> So it is still to hard for you to understand
> that there is only only TAI,
> and that it always agrees with itsef,
> (how could it be oterwise?)

Simply; clocks could be set "properly", according to the
postulates of your idiot guru. There would be no one
TAI, exactly as he prophesied... GPS and other time based
systems wouldn't work, but what a magnificient symmetry
we'd have instead!

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