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* Getting Back to EV'sTom Kunich
`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sRoger Meriman
 `* Re: Getting Back to EV'ssms
  `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sfunkma...@hotmail.com
   |`- Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |+* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   ||+* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |||`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   ||| `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |||  `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |||   `- Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   ||+* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |||`- Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   ||`- Re: Getting Back to EV'ssms
   |`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   | +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   | |`- Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   | `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |  `* Re: Getting Back to EV'ssms
   |   +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   |+* Re: Getting Back to EV'sFrank Krygowski
   |   ||+- Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||+* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   |||+* Re: Getting Back to EV'sFrank Krygowski
   |   ||||`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   |||| +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sFrank Krygowski
   |   |||| |`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   |||| | `- Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   |||| `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sTom Kunich
   |   ||||  `- Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   |||`* Re: Getting Back to EV'ssms
   |   ||| +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   ||| |+* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| ||`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   ||| || `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sTom Kunich
   |   ||| ||  `- Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |+* Re: Getting Back to EV'ssms
   |   ||| ||+- Re: Getting Back to EV'sTom Kunich
   |   ||| ||`- Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| | `* Re: Getting Back to EV'ssms
   |   ||| |  +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |`- Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   ||| |  +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  | +- Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  | `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   ||| |  |  +* Re: Getting Back to EV'ssms
   |   ||| |  |  |+- Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |  |`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   ||| |  |  | `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sFrank Krygowski
   |   ||| |  |  |  +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |  |  |`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |  |  | +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sFrank Krygowski
   |   ||| |  |  |  | |`- Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |  |  | `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |  |  |  `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |  |  |   `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |  |  |    `- Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |  |  `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   ||| |  |  |   +- Re: Getting Back to EV'sTom Kunich
   |   ||| |  |  |   `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sFrank Krygowski
   |   ||| |  |  |    `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   ||| |  |  |     +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sTom Kunich
   |   ||| |  |  |     |`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |  |     | `- Re: Getting Back to EV'sFrank Krygowski
   |   ||| |  |  |     +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sFrank Krygowski
   |   ||| |  |  |     |`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   ||| |  |  |     | +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |  |     | |`- Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |  |     | `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sFrank Krygowski
   |   ||| |  |  |     |  `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sTom Kunich
   |   ||| |  |  |     |   `- Re: Getting Back to EV'sFrank Krygowski
   |   ||| |  |  |     `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |  |      `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   ||| |  |  |       `- Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |  +- Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |  `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |   `* Re: Getting Back to EV'ssms
   |   ||| |  |    +- Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |    `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |     `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sFrank Krygowski
   |   ||| |  |      `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |       +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sTom Kunich
   |   ||| |  |       |+* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |       ||`- Re: Getting Back to EV'sTom Kunich
   |   ||| |  |       |+- Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |       |`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sFrank Krygowski
   |   ||| |  |       | +- Re: Getting Back to EV'sRoger Meriman
   |   ||| |  |       | `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |       |  +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   ||| |  |       |  |`- Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |       |  `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sfunkma...@hotmail.com
   |   ||| |  |       |   `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |       |    `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |       |     +* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi
   |   ||| |  |       |     |`* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  |       |     | `- Re: Getting Back to EV'sFrank Krygowski
   |   ||| |  |       |     `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   |   ||| |  |       `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||| |  `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sTom Kunich
   |   ||| `- Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   ||`- Re: Getting Back to EV'sTom Kunich
   |   |+* Re: Getting Back to EV'sJohn B.
   |   |`- Re: Getting Back to EV'ssms
   |   `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sCatrike Rider
   `* Re: Getting Back to EV'sAMuzi

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Subject: Re: Getting Back to EV's
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 by: Tom Kunich - Thu, 24 Aug 2023 15:00 UTC

On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 2:17:24 AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail..com wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 6:58:56 PM UTC-4, floriduh dumbass wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 05:23:39 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 10:13:52 -0400, Catrike Rider
> > ><sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> > >
> > >>On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 07:09:52 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > >><funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 7:57:54?AM UTC-4, floriduh dumbass wrote:
> > >>>> On Tue, 22 Aug 2023 22:57:06 -0400, Frank Krygowski
> > >>>> <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >On 8/22/2023 5:04 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >>>> >> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:31:59?PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > >>>> >>> On Tue, 22 Aug 2023 12:09:55 -0400, Frank Krygowski
> > >>>> >>> <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > >>>> >>>
> > >>>> >>>> On 8/22/2023 4:57 AM, John B. wrote:
> > >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 22 Aug 2023 00:40:49 -0700, sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
> > >>>> >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>> On 8/21/2023 6:24 PM, John B. wrote:
> > >>>> >>>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>> <snip>
> > >>>> >>>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>>>> Besides which most of USA provides free county rent, food
> > >>>> >>>>>>>> stamps, free medical and free schools (such as they are;
> > >>>> >>>>>>>> probably a fair price given the product) as long as there's
> > >>>> >>>>>>>> no 'official' paycheck with taxes etc.
> > >>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>>> And. Based on my rather limited experience the Illegal's know all the
> > >>>> >>>>>>> details of what they will get for free, where to go to get it, and
> > >>>> >>>>>>> what story to tell.
> > >>>> >>>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>> They may know what they get for free, but at least in the U..S. they do
> > >>>> >>>>>> not qualify for "food stamps" (SNAP), free rent, or free medical care
> > >>>> >>>>> >from the government. Not sure what county Andrew lives in that illegal
> > >>>> >>>>>> immigrants get those benefits. Often, non-profit groups will help out
> > >>>> >>>>>> with food and medical care.
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> I wasn't arguing about what they get, I was only saying that they know
> > >>>> >>>>> more, probably, then the average citizen, about exactly what they can
> > >>>> >>>>> expect when they get here.
> > >>>> >>>>
> > >>>> >>>> That shouldn't be surprising. As when my ancestors arrived here, they
> > >>>> >>>> heard from friends and relatives who preceded them. In those days the
> > >>>> >>>> communication was by hand-written letters, delivered slowly by ship.
> > >>>> >>>> These days it's by cell phone apps. Having friends and learning from
> > >>>> >>>> them is part of the normal human experience.
> > >>>> >>>>
> > >>>> >>>> BTW, certain people hear about services provided to immigrants and
> > >>>> >>>> falsely assume those are all _illegal_ immigrants. Over 3/4 of
> > >>>> >>>> immigrants to the U.S. are here legally.
> > >>>> >>>>
> > >>>> >>>> I knew two women who worked for years for agencies that provided support
> > >>>> >>>> to immigrants. One of the women has passed away, but the other is still
> > >>>> >>>> a close friend of mine. AFAIK all their clients were here legally. I met
> > >>>> >>>> many of them at parties. They were lovely people, very interesting and
> > >>>> >>>> very courageous. Most had come here to flee terrible situations in their
> > >>>> >>>> home countries.
> > >>>> >>> Another undocumanted story straight from Krygowski's fertile
> > >>>> >>> imagination.
> > >>>> >>>> I'm sure there are posters here who would be far too fearful to do what
> > >>>> >>>> they had done. I think John is the only one of us who has changed his
> > >>>> >>>> country of residence, and I gather most have not traveled outside their
> > >>>> >>>> own country.
> > >>>> >>> Your "gatherings" are as full of shit as you are...
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Things that Krygowski is saying are making less and less sense. Something is going on with him. Americans are the most traveled people on this planet.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >I'm not talking about Americans in general. I'm talking about the crew
> > >>>> >here posting on r.b.tech. And I was talking specifically about having
> > >>>> >the courage to leave one nation and live in another very unfamiliar one.
> > >>>> >John had the courage to actually work and live overseas.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >Tom has bragged about dozens of literally unbelievable experiences
> > >>>> >(losing stocks money during the Obama years, helping discover AIDS,
> > >>>> >designing important parts of the Space Station) but has never mentioned
> > >>>> >leaving the U.S.. In fact, he seems afraid to move out of his neighborhood.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >The Florida coward probably wouldn't ever leave the U.S., since he'd
> > >>>> >have to leave his "protective" handgun behind.
> > >>>> Krogowski forgets about my single handed sailing travels around the
> > >>>> Carribean.
> > >>>
> > >>>More imaginary tales from the the floriduh dumbass
> > >>
> > >>Feel free to believe or disbelieve anything I say, Junior. I assume
> > >>that Krygowski's and your opinions do matter, just not to me.
> > >
> > >One can only wonder why sailing a boat is considered imaginary? I
> > >lived on a boat and sailed around S.E. Asia for a number if years with
> > >one voyage from Thailand to Australia and return.
> > >
> > >And yes I did have a gun aboard for much of the time. Although not a
> > >pistol, a shotgun (:-)
> > >
> > >
> > That's just Junior. He'll say anything because he wants to start a
> > childish flame war with me.
> Yet your identical responses to Frank are somehow mature rationale discourse....what a fucking hypocrite.
> > He's good for a few laughs every now and
> > then, but opinions of insignificant people (J̶u̶n̶i̶o̶r̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶k̶r̶y̶g̶o̶w̶s̶k̶i̶ pretty me anything by a floriduh dumbass)
> > are... e̶n̶t̶e̶r̶t̶a̶i̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶i̶g̶n̶i̶f̶i̶c̶a̶n̶t̶.̶ merely desperate attempts at attention seeking.
>
> There, fixed it for ya, dumbass.

The cowardice of Flunky who lacks the capacity of honest debate continues to show. He cannot even spell Florida.

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