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* Dolan's Critique of Pure Relativitypatdolan
+- Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure Relativityrotchm
+* Pat Dolan admits he;s an imbecileDono.
|`* it's about DonoThe Starmaker
| `* Re: it's about DonoThe Starmaker
|  `- Re: it's about Donorotchm
+- Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure RelativityStan Fultoni
+- Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure Relativityrotchm
+- Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure RelativityRoss A. Finlayson
+* Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure RelativityAthel Cornish-Bowden
|`- Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure RelativityMaciej Wozniak
+* Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure RelativityLaurence Clark Crossen
|`* Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure RelativityPaul Alsing
| +* Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure RelativityMaciej Wozniak
| |`* Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure RelativityPaul Alsing
| | `* Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure RelativityMaciej Wozniak
| |  +* Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure RelativityPaul Alsing
| |  |`- Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure RelativityMaciej Wozniak
| |  `* Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure RelativityVolney
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 by: patdolan - Wed, 11 May 2022 23:58 UTC

It is now evident that many of the denizens of this forum are experiencing great difficulty grasping the complementary concepts of v and v' as applied to the Lorentz transforms. I refer to the fumbling, flummoxed and flounder rotchm and Stan/Townes as excellent examples of this difficulty.

The absolute reciprocity of the velocity value between two observers in motion wrt each other appears to be a dictum ingrained in many of your minds from which you are unable to free yourselves. You are not alone. Einstein hizself was unable to do it. He didn't even realize that he had introduced an overlooked and undetected third postulate into the LTs ( or did he? ) by his obliterating all references to v' whilst keeping x' an t'. The result of Einstein's oversight was to replace absolute time and space with absolute velocity.

The reader is urged to try a simple mental exercise before continuing with the critique. The exercise will help the reader to open his/her mind to the concept of total and pure relativity. This is the exercise: consider two observers in motion wrt each other but who disagree about the velocity with which they are approaching each other.

Contemplate this for one hour as a prolegomena to any future theory of relativity.

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 by: rotchm - Thu, 12 May 2022 00:16 UTC

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 7:58:24 PM UTC-4, patdolan wrote:

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You still have ongoing discussions that are pending. Do not start new ones without terminating the other ones. We are waiting for your replies in your other post.

Pat Dolan admits he;s an imbecile

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 by: Dono. - Thu, 12 May 2022 00:26 UTC

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 4:58:24 PM UTC-7, cretin pat dolan wrote:
> It is now evident that Pat Dolan is a deluded cretin and a liar.

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 by: Stan Fultoni - Thu, 12 May 2022 00:48 UTC

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 4:58:24 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> From :
> x' = g( v )[ x - vt ]
> t' = g( v )[ t - vx/c^2 ]
> x = g( v' )[ x' + v't' ]
> t = g( v' )[ t' + v'x'/c^2 ]
> derive v = v'

It's grade school algebra to show that the first two equations imply
x = g(v)[ x' + vt' ]
t = g(v)[ t' + vx'/c^2 ]
so your second two equations are true for arbitrary t and x if and only if
g(v)=g(v') and vg(v)=v'g(v'), from which it trivially follows that v'=v.

> You point out that the LTs are true IFF g(v)=g(v')

Nope, I pointed out that, given your first two equations, your second two
equations are true for arbitrary x and t if and only if g(v)=g(v') and vg(v)=v'g(v').

> g(v) = g(v') is a false proposition.

It's trivially false unless v'=+-v, in which case it is trivially true, and the relation
vg(v)=v'g(v') constrains the sign, so they are true if and only if v'=v. Hence, given
your first two equations, we have proven that your second two equations are true
for arbitrary x and t if and only if v'=v.

Is there anything about this that you think is wrong or unclear ?

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 by: rotchm - Thu, 12 May 2022 00:56 UTC

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 12:13:21 PM UTC-4, patdolan wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 6:39:32 AM UTC-7, rotchm wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 11:28:15 PM UTC-4, patdolan wrote:
> >
> > We agreed that I arrived at
> >
> > x = (x' +vt')g . Or by ur notation
> >
> > x = g(v)[x' + vt']. (1)
> >
> > You want us to show that your
> > x = g( v' )[ x' + v't' ] (2) implies v = v'.
> >
> > The coeff of x' in (1) & (2) are g(v) & g(v') resp. Thus... 1-v²/c² = 1-v'²/c², thus v = +-v'.
> > The coeff of t' in (1) & (2) are g(v)vt' & g(v')v't' resp. Since we shown above g(v)=g(v') thus v=v'.
> >
> > Any steps in there confuses you?
> Where have you shown that g(v) = g(v') ??

<sigh>. I already told you: By *comparison*. Again, the coeff of x' in (1) & (2)
are g(v) & g(v') resp. Since the coefficients of the variable (x' here) must be the same, hence
g(v) must equal g(v'). I.e.: g(v) = g(v'). Anything in that step you did not understand?

Or, in (1) & (2), letting the variable t'=0, we get the two eqs x = g(v)x' & x= g(v')x'.
Thus g(v)x' = g(v')x'. Let the variable x'=1, say. Thus g(v) = g(v').

Anything in there confuses you?

it's about Dono

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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 12 May 2022 03:51 UTC

Dono. wrote:
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> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 4:58:24 PM UTC-7, cretin pat dolan wrote:
> > It is now evident that Pat Dolan is a deluded cretin and a liar.

Of course Dono likes to use the word "cretin" because he is Jewish, and 'cretin' means...Christians.

In fact, all of Dono's use of language is...the from old Jewish country.,,,or whatever you call all those old jewish guys.

And Dono also Lies a lot. For example, recently he said "The saying "can't fix imbecille" fully applies to you."

But there is no such saying! Dono just made it up!

But what is interesting is that Dono calls "can't fix imbecile" ...a saying.

That is the operative word, 'saying'.

The definition of the word:

say·ing

noun
a short, pithy expression that generally contains advice or wisdom.
synonyms: proverb,

There is the key to Dono's fingerprint online....sayings. (a short, pithy expression)

Let me give you just a few examples of Dono's ..short, pithy expressions:

If you keep cleaning the latrines with your mouth, your brain will fall off

Chump is your mother's son, piece of shit.

I am not indulging your laziness combined with your stupidity.

<snip frothing at the mouth>

Every time you open your big mouth I get to fill it with shit. Now swallow.

Oh, look, the piece of shit is talking to his mirror again.
You can;t resist, can you?

No one will take seriously your call from the lunatic asylum whose impatient you've been for many years now. Time for your meds and your cold shower. Nurse!

I'd say we leave Dick alone, to froth at the mouth and choke on his bile.

Eventually, you will die, leaving behind a legacy of....absolutely nothing.

Every time you open your mouth, you get to eat shit. Bon appetit!

A mistake typical to ignoramuses that try (and never succeed) to get the basics.

Now, a pattern begins to form in Dono's fingerprint online..

They are all mostly, "sayings" (he makes up) and they are short, pithy negative expressions.

Go back and read Dono's one-liners. You will notice they all have a 'negative connotation'.

No positive connotations, only negative connotations.

I'm sure you heard of "sayings". But most people in the world are familiar with
positive sayings.

What I will point to you now is where Dono learn to speak this way.

Here is an example of Dono's roots:

I should outlive him long enough to bury him.
God should bless him with three people: one should grab him, the second should stab him and the third should hide him.
He should have a large store, and whatever people ask for he shouldn? have, and what he does have shouldn? be requested.
All problems I have in my heart, should go to his head.
He should be transformed into a chandelier, to hang by day and to burn by night.
All his teeth should fall out except one to make him suffer.
A hundred houses shall he have, in every house a hundred rooms and in every room twenty beds, and a delirious fever should drive him from bed to bed.
As many years as he? walked on his feet, let him walk on his hands, and for the rest of the time he should crawl along on his ass.
Let what I wish on him come true (most, even half, even just 10%).
On summer days he should mourn, and on wintry nights, he should torture himself.
Black sorrow is all that his mother should see of him.
He should get so sick as to cough up his mother? milk.
God should visit upon him the best of the Ten Plagues.
He should see everything, but have no reason (with what) to buy it.
He should marry the daughter of the Angel of Death.
Ten ships of gold should be his and the money should only make him sick.
He should have Pharaoh? plagues sprinkled with Job? scabies.
Hang yourself with a sugar rope and you?l have a sweet death.
You should grow like an onion with your head in the ground.
One misfortune is too few for him.
She should have stones and not children.
He should drink too much castor oil.
He should give it all away to doctors.
Let him suffer and remember.
Throw salt in his eyes, pepper in his nose.
Leeches should drink him dry.
He should laugh with lizards.
He should grow a wooden tongue.
Venereal disease should consume his body.
Why bother getting up alive?
He should crap blood and pus.
He should go nuts and run around (through the streets).

If you keep cleaning the latrines with your mouth, your brain will fall off. -Dono

Only Jewish people talk like dat.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 12 May 2022 06:01 UTC

So, next time Dono post his one-liners sayings....it's just his ...'gutter religion' that's talking.

His people are just a bunch of religious gangsters.

I've got all the money I'll ever need, if I die by four o'clock. -Dono

The Starmaker wrote:
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> Dono. wrote:
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> > On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 4:58:24 PM UTC-7, cretin pat dolan wrote:
> > > It is now evident that Pat Dolan is a deluded cretin and a liar.
>
> Of course Dono likes to use the word "cretin" because he is Jewish, and 'cretin' means...Christians.
>
> In fact, all of Dono's use of language is...the from old Jewish country.,,,or whatever you call all those old jewish guys.
>
> And Dono also Lies a lot. For example, recently he said "The saying "can't fix imbecille" fully applies to you."
>
> But there is no such saying! Dono just made it up!
>
> But what is interesting is that Dono calls "can't fix imbecile" ...a saying.
>
> That is the operative word, 'saying'.
>
> The definition of the word:
>
> say·ing
>
> noun
> a short, pithy expression that generally contains advice or wisdom.
> synonyms: proverb,
>
> There is the key to Dono's fingerprint online....sayings. (a short, pithy expression)
>
> Let me give you just a few examples of Dono's ..short, pithy expressions:
>
> If you keep cleaning the latrines with your mouth, your brain will fall off
>
> Chump is your mother's son, piece of shit.
>
> I am not indulging your laziness combined with your stupidity.
>
> <snip frothing at the mouth>
>
> Every time you open your big mouth I get to fill it with shit. Now swallow.
>
> Oh, look, the piece of shit is talking to his mirror again.
> You can;t resist, can you?
>
> No one will take seriously your call from the lunatic asylum whose impatient you've been for many years now. Time for your meds and your cold shower. Nurse!
>
> I'd say we leave Dick alone, to froth at the mouth and choke on his bile.
>
> Eventually, you will die, leaving behind a legacy of....absolutely nothing.
>
> Every time you open your mouth, you get to eat shit. Bon appetit!
>
> A mistake typical to ignoramuses that try (and never succeed) to get the basics.
>
> Now, a pattern begins to form in Dono's fingerprint online..
>
> They are all mostly, "sayings" (he makes up) and they are short, pithy negative expressions.
>
> Go back and read Dono's one-liners. You will notice they all have a 'negative connotation'.
>
> No positive connotations, only negative connotations.
>
> I'm sure you heard of "sayings". But most people in the world are familiar with
> positive sayings.
>
> What I will point to you now is where Dono learn to speak this way.
>
> Here is an example of Dono's roots:
>
> I should outlive him long enough to bury him.
> God should bless him with three people: one should grab him, the second should stab him and the third should hide him.
> He should have a large store, and whatever people ask for he shouldn? have, and what he does have shouldn? be requested.
> All problems I have in my heart, should go to his head.
> He should be transformed into a chandelier, to hang by day and to burn by night.
> All his teeth should fall out except one to make him suffer.
> A hundred houses shall he have, in every house a hundred rooms and in every room twenty beds, and a delirious fever should drive him from bed to bed.
> As many years as he? walked on his feet, let him walk on his hands, and for the rest of the time he should crawl along on his ass.
> Let what I wish on him come true (most, even half, even just 10%).
> On summer days he should mourn, and on wintry nights, he should torture himself.
> Black sorrow is all that his mother should see of him.
> He should get so sick as to cough up his mother? milk.
> God should visit upon him the best of the Ten Plagues.
> He should see everything, but have no reason (with what) to buy it.
> He should marry the daughter of the Angel of Death.
> Ten ships of gold should be his and the money should only make him sick.
> He should have Pharaoh? plagues sprinkled with Job? scabies.
> Hang yourself with a sugar rope and you?l have a sweet death.
> You should grow like an onion with your head in the ground.
> One misfortune is too few for him.
> She should have stones and not children.
> He should drink too much castor oil.
> He should give it all away to doctors.
> Let him suffer and remember.
> Throw salt in his eyes, pepper in his nose.
> Leeches should drink him dry.
> He should laugh with lizards.
> He should grow a wooden tongue.
> Venereal disease should consume his body.
> Why bother getting up alive?
> He should crap blood and pus.
> He should go nuts and run around (through the streets).
>
> If you keep cleaning the latrines with your mouth, your brain will fall off. -Dono
>
> Only Jewish people talk like dat.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 2:00:37 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> So, next time Dono post his one-liners sayings....it's just his ...'gutter religion' that's talking.

Off topic.
Spam reported.
I incite others to do the same.

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On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 4:58:24 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> It is now evident that many of the denizens of this forum are experiencing great difficulty grasping the complementary concepts of v and v' as applied to the Lorentz transforms. I refer to the fumbling, flummoxed and flounder rotchm and Stan/Townes as excellent examples of this difficulty.
>
> The absolute reciprocity of the velocity value between two observers in motion wrt each other appears to be a dictum ingrained in many of your minds from which you are unable to free yourselves. You are not alone. Einstein hizself was unable to do it. He didn't even realize that he had introduced an overlooked and undetected third postulate into the LTs ( or did he? ) by his obliterating all references to v' whilst keeping x' an t'. The result of Einstein's oversight was to replace absolute time and space with absolute velocity.
>
> The reader is urged to try a simple mental exercise before continuing with the critique. The exercise will help the reader to open his/her mind to the concept of total and pure relativity. This is the exercise: consider two observers in motion wrt each other but who disagree about the velocity with which they are approaching each other.
>
> Contemplate this for one hour as a prolegomena to any future theory of relativity.

It seems the point is the interpolation between the Galilean, transform,
and the Lorentz, transform, of course for the invariance of light speed
and thus mass-energy equivalence, the Lorentz, after the linear, the Galilean.

Of course keep in mind that the gravitational tensor is also "solving",
invariance in the space-frame, besides that the projection of image
is "solving", the system of equations what maintain the transform(s).

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On 2022-05-11 23:58:22 +0000, patdolan said:

> It is now evident that many of the denizens of this forum are
> experiencing great difficulty grasping the complementary concepts of v
> and v' as applied to the Lorentz transforms. I refer to the fumbling,
> flummoxed and flounder rotchm and Stan/Townes as excellent examples of
> this difficulty.

It's time to remind you of John Baez's crackpot index:

25. 20 points for naming something after yourself. (E.g., talking about
the "The Evans Field Equation" when your name happens to be Evans.)

There are other points in the list that you might want to consider, for example

3. 2 points for every statement that is clearly vacuous
>
> The absolute reciprocity of the velocity value between two observers in
> motion each other appears to be a dictum ingrained in many of your
> minds from which you are unable to free yourselves. You are not alone.
> Einstein hizself was unable to do it.

18. 10 points for each favorable comparison of yourself to Einstein, or
claim that special or general relativity are fundamentally misguided
(without good evidence).

> He didn't even realize that he had introduced an overlooked and
> undetected third postulate into the LTs ( or did he? ) by his
> obliterating all references to v' whilst keeping x' an t'. The result
> of Einstein's oversight was to replace absolute time and space with
> absolute velocity.
> The reader is urged to try a simple mental exercise before continuing
> with the critique. The exercise will help the reader to open his/her
> mind to the concept of total and pure relativity. This is the
> exercise: consider two observers in motion wrt each other but who
> disagree about the velocity with which they are approaching each other.
>
> Contemplate this for one hour as a prolegomena to any future theory of
> relativity.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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On Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 13:24:59 UTC+2, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-05-11 23:58:22 +0000, patdolan said:
>
> > It is now evident that many of the denizens of this forum are
> > experiencing great difficulty grasping the complementary concepts of v
> > and v' as applied to the Lorentz transforms. I refer to the fumbling,
> > flummoxed and flounder rotchm and Stan/Townes as excellent examples of
> > this difficulty.
> It's time to remind you of John Baez's crackpot index:

And never forget to add 5 points for Tom Roberts
for every word written in capital letters.

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On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 4:58:24 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> It is now evident that many of the denizens of this forum are experiencing great difficulty grasping the complementary concepts of v and v' as applied to the Lorentz transforms. I refer to the fumbling, flummoxed and flounder rotchm and Stan/Townes as excellent examples of this difficulty.
>
> The absolute reciprocity of the velocity value between two observers in motion wrt each other appears to be a dictum ingrained in many of your minds from which you are unable to free yourselves. You are not alone. Einstein hizself was unable to do it. He didn't even realize that he had introduced an overlooked and undetected third postulate into the LTs ( or did he? ) by his obliterating all references to v' whilst keeping x' an t'. The result of Einstein's oversight was to replace absolute time and space with absolute velocity.
>
> The reader is urged to try a simple mental exercise before continuing with the critique. The exercise will help the reader to open his/her mind to the concept of total and pure relativity. This is the exercise: consider two observers in motion wrt each other but who disagree about the velocity with which they are approaching each other.
>
> Contemplate this for one hour as a prolegomena to any future theory of relativity.
Footnote: A 2016 source not given in 2022 by Baird: "Einstein’s third postulate" W. Engelhardt

On the Logical Inconsistency of the Special Theory of
Relativity
Stephen John Crothers

Critical Comments on the Paper “On the Logical
Inconsistency of the Special Theory of
Relativity”
Vladimir A. Leus

Reply to “Critical Comments on the Paper ‘On
the Logical Inconsistency of the Special Theory
of Relativity’”
Stephen J. Crothers

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On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 9:10:41 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

> On the Logical Inconsistency of the Special Theory of
> Relativity
> Stephen John Crothers

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Crothers

“I'm neither a mathematician nor a physicist. More accurately, I'm a gardener and home handyman who does science in his spare time."

So, do you actually think that a self-proclaimed "gardener and home handyman" can bring down Einstein? Really?

Surely you are joking!

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 by: patdolan - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 05:02 UTC

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 4:58:24 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> It is now evident that many of the denizens of this forum are experiencing great difficulty grasping the complementary concepts of v and v' as applied to the Lorentz transforms. I refer to the fumbling, flummoxed and flounder rotchm and Stan/Townes as excellent examples of this difficulty.
>
> The absolute reciprocity of the velocity value between two observers in motion wrt each other appears to be a dictum ingrained in many of your minds from which you are unable to free yourselves. You are not alone. Einstein hizself was unable to do it. He didn't even realize that he had introduced an overlooked and undetected third postulate into the LTs ( or did he? ) by his obliterating all references to v' whilst keeping x' an t'. The result of Einstein's oversight was to replace absolute time and space with absolute velocity.
>
> The reader is urged to try a simple mental exercise before continuing with the critique. The exercise will help the reader to open his/her mind to the concept of total and pure relativity. This is the exercise: consider two observers in motion wrt each other but who disagree about the velocity with which they are approaching each other.
>
> Contemplate this for one hour as a prolegomena to any future theory of relativity.
Thank you Laurence for dredging this up from a year ago. Damn, I was a good writer back then. But I take the liberty of amending one sentence:

"The result of Einstein's oversight was in effect to replace absolute time and space with absolute *relativie* velocity."

There is no a priori reason for doing this. It's a choice on Einstein's part. And a bad choice. Just as it was Cardano's bad choice to make the square of a negative number, a positive number. Both lead to inconsistency. Right Logo Pytho?

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 05:25 UTC

On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 06:56:24 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 9:10:41 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>
> > On the Logical Inconsistency of the Special Theory of
> > Relativity
> > Stephen John Crothers
> https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Crothers
>
> “I'm neither a mathematician nor a physicist. More accurately, I'm a gardener and home handyman who does science in his spare time."
>
> So, do you actually think that a self-proclaimed "gardener and home handyman" can bring down Einstein? Really?

Al, poor halfbrain, the mumble of your idiot guru wasn't
even consistent.

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 by: Paul Alsing - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 05:39 UTC

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:25:15 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 06:56:24 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 9:10:41 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> >
> > > On the Logical Inconsistency of the Special Theory of
> > > Relativity
> > > Stephen John Crothers
> > https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Crothers
> >
> > “I'm neither a mathematician nor a physicist. More accurately, I'm a gardener and home handyman who does science in his spare time."
> >
> > So, do you actually think that a self-proclaimed "gardener and home handyman" can bring down Einstein? Really?

> Al, poor halfbrain, the mumble of your idiot guru wasn't even consistent.

Woz, if you had a brain you would undoubtedly take it out and play with it....

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 06:03 UTC

On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 07:39:53 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:25:15 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 06:56:24 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 9:10:41 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> > >
> > > > On the Logical Inconsistency of the Special Theory of
> > > > Relativity
> > > > Stephen John Crothers
> > > https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Crothers
> > >
> > > “I'm neither a mathematician nor a physicist. More accurately, I'm a gardener and home handyman who does science in his spare time."
> > >
> > > So, do you actually think that a self-proclaimed "gardener and home handyman" can bring down Einstein? Really?
>
> > Al, poor halfbrain, the mumble of your idiot guru wasn't even consistent.
> Woz, if you had a brain you would undoubtedly take it out and play with it...

Al, I've demonstrated it clearly. Your spitting is
not changing that. But, of course, that's what you
can do and that's what your religion has
trained you for.

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 by: Paul Alsing - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 06:06 UTC

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:03:40 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 07:39:53 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:25:15 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 06:56:24 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 9:10:41 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On the Logical Inconsistency of the Special Theory of
> > > > > Relativity
> > > > > Stephen John Crothers
> > > > https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Crothers
> > > >
> > > > “I'm neither a mathematician nor a physicist. More accurately, I'm a gardener and home handyman who does science in his spare time."
> > > >
> > > > So, do you actually think that a self-proclaimed "gardener and home handyman" can bring down Einstein? Really?
> >
> > > Al, poor halfbrain, the mumble of your idiot guru wasn't even consistent.
> > Woz, if you had a brain you would undoubtedly take it out and play with it...

> Al, I've demonstrated it clearly. Your spitting is
> not changing that. But, of course, that's what you
> can do and that's what your religion has
> trained you for.

Woz, all you have ever demonstrated here is your ignorance of physics... but you have excelled at doing that!

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 06:14 UTC

On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 08:06:16 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:03:40 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 07:39:53 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:25:15 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > > On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 06:56:24 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 9:10:41 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On the Logical Inconsistency of the Special Theory of
> > > > > > Relativity
> > > > > > Stephen John Crothers
> > > > > https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Crothers
> > > > >
> > > > > “I'm neither a mathematician nor a physicist. More accurately, I'm a gardener and home handyman who does science in his spare time."
> > > > >
> > > > > So, do you actually think that a self-proclaimed "gardener and home handyman" can bring down Einstein? Really?
> > >
> > > > Al, poor halfbrain, the mumble of your idiot guru wasn't even consistent.
> > > Woz, if you had a brain you would undoubtedly take it out and play with it...
>
> > Al, I've demonstrated it clearly. Your spitting is
> > not changing that. But, of course, that's what you
> > can do and that's what your religion has
> > trained you for.
> Woz, all you have ever demonstrated here is your ignorance of physics... but you have excelled at doing that!

I've demonstrated clearly 2 denying each other claims
derivable in the physics of your idiot guru. Your spitting is
not changing that. But, of course, that's what you
can do and that's what your religion has trained you for.

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 by: Volney - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 06:25 UTC

On 9/29/2023 2:03 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 07:39:53 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:25:15 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>> On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 06:56:24 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 9:10:41 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the Logical Inconsistency of the Special Theory of
>>>>> Relativity
>>>>> Stephen John Crothers
>>>> https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Crothers
>>>>
>>>> “I'm neither a mathematician nor a physicist. More accurately, I'm a gardener and home handyman who does science in his spare time."
>>>>
>>>> So, do you actually think that a self-proclaimed "gardener and home handyman" can bring down Einstein? Really?
>>
>>> Al, poor halfbrain, the mumble of your idiot guru wasn't even consistent.

>> Woz, if you had a brain you would undoubtedly take it out and play with it...
>
> Al, I've demonstrated it clearly.

That you take out your halfbrain and play with it? I agree!

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Subject: Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure Relativity
From: maluwozn...@gmail.com (Maciej Wozniak)
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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 06:55 UTC

On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 08:25:53 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
> On 9/29/2023 2:03 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 07:39:53 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> >> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:25:15 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>> On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 06:56:24 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 9:10:41 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On the Logical Inconsistency of the Special Theory of
> >>>>> Relativity
> >>>>> Stephen John Crothers
> >>>> https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Crothers
> >>>>
> >>>> “I'm neither a mathematician nor a physicist. More accurately, I'm a gardener and home handyman who does science in his spare time."
> >>>>
> >>>> So, do you actually think that a self-proclaimed "gardener and home handyman" can bring down Einstein? Really?
> >>
> >>> Al, poor halfbrain, the mumble of your idiot guru wasn't even consistent.
>
> >> Woz, if you had a brain you would undoubtedly take it out and play with it...
> >
> > Al, I've demonstrated it clearly.
> That you take out your halfbrain and play with it? I agree!

That the mumble of your idiot guru was not even
consistent. Your spitting is not changing that either.
But, of course, that's what you can do and that's
what your religion has trained you for.

Re: Dolan's Critique of Pure Relativity

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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 14:30 UTC

On 2023-09-29 04:56:21 +0000, Paul Alsing said:

> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 9:10:41 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark
> Crossen wrote:
>
>> On the Logical Inconsistency of the Special Theory of> Relativity>
>> Stephen John Crothers
> https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Crothers
>
> “I'm neither a mathematician nor a physicist. More accurately, I'm a
> gardener and home handyman who does science in his spare time."
>
> So, do you actually think that a self-proclaimed "gardener and home
> handyman" can bring down Einstein? Really?
>
> Surely you are joking!

I fear not. I think he is absolutely serious.

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

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