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* Re: [SR] Relativistic simultaneityrotchm
`* Re: [SR] Relativistic simultaneityMaciej Wozniak
 `- Re: [SR] Relativistic simultaneityRichard Hachel

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Re: [SR] Relativistic simultaneity

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Subject: Re: [SR] Relativistic simultaneity
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 by: rotchm - Mon, 13 Jun 2022 23:09 UTC

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 3:58:13 PM UTC-4, Richard Hachel wrote:

<diversions snipped>

We are still at this point:

On Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 3:27:17 PM UTC-4, Richard Hachel wrote:
> One cannot synchronize watches placed in two different places in the
> universe (even in a schoolyard, or a railway network).

Yes you can.

Tell me, can we Einstein synchronize (esynch) two watches ?
Still no answer?

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Subject: Re: [SR] Relativistic simultaneity
From: maluwozn...@gmail.com (Maciej Wozniak)
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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Tue, 14 Jun 2022 06:58 UTC

On Tuesday, 14 June 2022 at 01:09:38 UTC+2, rotchm wrote:
> On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 3:58:13 PM UTC-4, Richard Hachel wrote:
>
> <diversions snipped>
>
> We are still at this point:
>
> On Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 3:27:17 PM UTC-4, Richard Hachel wrote:
> > One cannot synchronize watches placed in two different places in the
> > universe (even in a schoolyard, or a railway network).
>
> Yes you can.
>
> Tell me, can we Einstein synchronize (esynch) two watches ?

Of course not. You can only synchronize with the
Holy Procedure 2 immobile wrt each other clocks
in an inertial frame. That never happens.

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From: r.hac...@tiscali.fr (Richard Hachel)
 by: Richard Hachel - Tue, 14 Jun 2022 10:48 UTC

Le 14/06/2022 à 08:58, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> Of course not. You can only synchronize with the
> Holy Procedure 2 immobile wrt each other clocks
> in an inertial frame. That never happens.

No, not even.

You cannot synchronize two watches placed in two different places.

What is extraordinary, miraculous, is that this simple idea,
understandable by a seven-year-old child, is (I repeat) completely
incomprehensible to the greatest physicists and the greatest
mathematicians in the world.

That's why all this is frankly miraculous.

The watches will beat at the same speed, that is obvious.

But each will see the other lag behind by AB/c.

They will not beat simultaneously.

They will have the same chronotropy, but not the same isochrony.

Can you please understand these two terms and not confuse them again?

A physical misfortune never arriving alone, if the two watches are in
relativistic movement with respect to each other, it is worse. This time,
they don't even beat at the same speed. They no longer have either
isochrony or isochronotropy.

Blessed is anyone who understands the words and concepts of Saint Richard
Hachel.

It went from human bullshit to relativistic scientific knowledge.

R.H.

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