https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html

> Far too often, the Ukrainian issue is posed as a showdown: whether
> Ukraine joins the East or the West. But if Ukraine is to survive and
> thrive, it must not be either side�s outpost against the other � it
> should function as a bridge between them.

On 3/10/2022 2:06 PM, John Doe wrote:
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html
>
>> Far too often, the Ukrainian issue is posed as a showdown: whether
>> Ukraine joins the East or the West. But if Ukraine is to survive and
>> thrive, it must not be either side’s outpost against the other – it
>> should function as a bridge between them.

Holy shit all these antique ghouls must've made a pact with the Devil to
live forever.

The world would be a much better place if it stopped taking the opinions
of has-been pale-skins like Putin, Trump, Biden, Kissenger, et al with a
combined age of 9000 years old seriously.

https://www.paul.senate.gov/courier-journal-op-ed-sen-rand-paul-heres-how-we-prevent-war-ukraine

> The neocons are trying to fool people that NATO entrance would lead to
> deterrence and peace, when in fact it is a recipe for war and disaster.

Jan 28, 2022

I wrote:

> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html
>
>> Far too often, the Ukrainian issue is posed as a showdown: whether
>> Ukraine joins the East or the West. But if Ukraine is to survive and
>> thrive, it must not be either side's outpost against the other - it
>> should function as a bridge between them.
>
>
>

On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 11:06:48 AM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html

Oddly, that's a perceptive article. Alas, it ignores the fact that Ukraine is a
democracy, and Putin's Russia is so corrupted by (among other things) Putin
stealing elections and supressing the press that a kleptocracy run by a
dictator is now invading, trying to seize more political power at gunpoint.

Rule-from-Ukraine is better than rule-from-Moscow, and the article doesn't say otherwise.
NATO membership certainly has a better future than capitulation to Tsar Vladimir.

whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

> John Doe wrote:

>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html
>
> Oddly, that's a perceptive article. Alas, it ignores the fact that
> Ukraine is a democracy, and Putin's Russia is so corrupted by (among
> other things) Putin stealing elections and supressing the press that a
> kleptocracy run by a dictator is now invading, trying to seize more
> political power at gunpoint.

Congratulations, it's an opinion!

Difficult to believe how many clueless people are rooting for death
and destruction, praying for World War III.

Millions being displaced and killed so Zelensky can keep his job.

It's like the Black Night in Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975).

https://youtu.be/ZmInkxbvlCs?t=50 (two minutes, contains fake gore)

Ukraine is the Black Night. Zelensky is its brain. Ukrainians are the
Black Knight's lost body parts...

Bozo is an America bashing Australian.

Bozo Bill Sloman is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be
reasoned with...

"the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
(Bozo paraphrased)

"the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
(Bill Sloman)

On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 5:27:49 AM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
> whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > John Doe wrote:
>
> >> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html
> >
> > Oddly, that's a perceptive article. Alas, it ignores the fact that
> > Ukraine is a democracy, and Putin's Russia is so corrupted by (among
> > other things) Putin stealing elections and supressing the press that a
> > kleptocracy run by a dictator is now invading, trying to seize more
> > political power at gunpoint.
> Congratulations, it's an opinion!
>
> Difficult to believe how many clueless people are rooting for death
> and destruction, praying for World War III.

Yes, i am rooting for death and destruction of the Z army. Because that's the only way to end this Putin War.

6,000 death, 15,000 wounded
20 jets, 30 copters, 200 tanks, 100 APCs destroyed.

and Ukraine has 1,200 javelins, 2,000 stingers, 17,000 small missiles waiting.
>> Millions being displaced and killed so Zelensky can keep his job.

He is just protecting his home, family and friends. Why is that bad? It's like blaming the victim for home invasion.

Zelensky is doing a bad job of "protecting his home" considering the
fact millions of Ukrainians are being displaced and killed.

Zelensky is flapping his lips while Ukraine is being destroyed.

Advising the "victim" on how to stop the slaughter of its children is
hardly "blaming the victim".

Encouraging the "victim" to continue acting in a way that gets more of its
children slaughtered is bloody evil.

Too many people closing their eyes to reality, cheering death and
destruction, and praying for World War III, just because they hate
Russia...

Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 5:27:49 AM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
>> whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > John Doe wrote:
>>
>> >> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html
>> >
>> > Oddly, that's a perceptive article. Alas, it ignores the fact that
>> > Ukraine is a democracy, and Putin's Russia is so corrupted by (among
>> > other things) Putin stealing elections and supressing the press that a
>> > kleptocracy run by a dictator is now invading, trying to seize more
>> > political power at gunpoint.

>> Congratulations, it's an opinion!
>>
>> Difficult to believe how many clueless people are rooting for death
>> and destruction, praying for World War III.
>
> Yes, i am rooting for death and destruction of the Z army. Because that's the only way to end this Putin War.
>
> 6,000 death, 15,000 wounded
> 20 jets, 30 copters, 200 tanks, 100 APCs destroyed.
>
> and Ukraine has 1,200 javelins, 2,000 stingers, 17,000 small missiles waiting.
>
>>> Millions being displaced and killed so Zelensky can keep his job.
>
> He is just protecting his home, family and friends. Why is that bad? It's like blaming the victim for home invasion.
>

On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 9:54:05 AM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
> Zelensky is doing a bad job of "protecting his home" considering the
> fact millions of Ukrainians are being displaced and killed.
>
> Zelensky is flapping his lips while Ukraine is being destroyed.

What is the alternative? Give in to Putin's demand? Disband the army. Disclaim Crimea and Eastern Regions. Install Puppy government and stop asking for EU help. Turn Ukraine into Russia satellite. No dissent and/or freedom of speech. For many Ukrainian, the condition is worst than death.

> Advising the "victim" on how to stop the slaughter of its children is
> hardly "blaming the victim".
>
> Encouraging the "victim" to continue acting in a way that gets more of its
> children slaughtered is bloody evil.
>
> Too many people closing their eyes to reality, cheering death and
> destruction, and praying for World War III, just because they hate
> Russia...
> Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 5:27:49 AM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
> >> whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > John Doe wrote:
> >>
> >> >> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html
> >> >
> >> > Oddly, that's a perceptive article. Alas, it ignores the fact that
> >> > Ukraine is a democracy, and Putin's Russia is so corrupted by (among
> >> > other things) Putin stealing elections and supressing the press that a
> >> > kleptocracy run by a dictator is now invading, trying to seize more
> >> > political power at gunpoint.
>
> >> Congratulations, it's an opinion!
> >>
> >> Difficult to believe how many clueless people are rooting for death
> >> and destruction, praying for World War III.
> >
> > Yes, i am rooting for death and destruction of the Z army. Because that's the only way to end this Putin War.
> >
> > 6,000 death, 15,000 wounded
> > 20 jets, 30 copters, 200 tanks, 100 APCs destroyed.
> >
> > and Ukraine has 1,200 javelins, 2,000 stingers, 17,000 small missiles waiting.
> >
> >>> Millions being displaced and killed so Zelensky can keep his job.
> >
> > He is just protecting his home, family and friends. Why is that bad? It's like blaming the victim for home invasion.
> >

After the major powers developed the ability to destroy the entire planet,
NATO was obsolete. The only purpose for NATO's existence and its expansion
is to enable a first strike against Russia, that's why NATO is expanding
all the way to Russia's borders.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html

> Far too often, the Ukrainian issue is posed as a showdown: whether
> Ukraine joins the East or the West. But if Ukraine is to survive and
> thrive, it must not be either side's outpost against the other - it
> should function as a bridge between them.

Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 9:54:05 AM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
>> Zelensky is doing a bad job of "protecting his home" considering the
>> fact millions of Ukrainians are being displaced and killed.
>>
>> Zelensky is flapping his lips while Ukraine is being destroyed.
>
> What is the alternative? Give in to Putin's demand? Disband the army. Disclaim Crimea and Eastern Regions. Install Puppy government and stop asking for EU help. Turn Ukraine into Russia satellite. No dissent and/or freedom of speech. For many Ukrainian, the condition is worst than death.
>
> > Advising the "victim" on how to stop the slaughter of its children is
>> hardly "blaming the victim".
>>
>> Encouraging the "victim" to continue acting in a way that gets more of it
> s
>> children slaughtered is bloody evil.
>>
>> Too many people closing their eyes to reality, cheering death and
>> destruction, and praying for World War III, just because they hate
>> Russia...
>> Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 5:27:49 AM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
>> >> whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > John Doe wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-t
> he-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Oddly, that's a perceptive article. Alas, it ignores the fact that
>
>> >> > Ukraine is a democracy, and Putin's Russia is so corrupted by (among
>
>> >> > other things) Putin stealing elections and supressing the press that
> a
>> >> > kleptocracy run by a dictator is now invading, trying to seize more
>
>> >> > political power at gunpoint.
>>
>> >> Congratulations, it's an opinion!
>> >>
>> >> Difficult to believe how many clueless people are rooting for death
>> >> and destruction, praying for World War III.
>> >
>> > Yes, i am rooting for death and destruction of the Z army. Because that
> 's the only way to end this Putin War.
>> >
>> > 6,000 death, 15,000 wounded
>> > 20 jets, 30 copters, 200 tanks, 100 APCs destroyed.
>> >
>> > and Ukraine has 1,200 javelins, 2,000 stingers, 17,000 small missiles w
> aiting.
>> >
>> >>> Millions being displaced and killed so Zelensky can keep his job.
>> >
>> > He is just protecting his home, family and friends. Why is that bad? It
> 's like blaming the victim for home invasion.
>> >

On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 5:27:49 AM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:

> Difficult to believe how many clueless people are rooting for death
> and destruction, praying for World War III.

Zero. Not difficult to believe that.
>
> Millions being displaced and killed so Zelensky can keep his job.

Not 'so Putin can expand his empire'? Zelensky is an elected official, his job
is the will of an entire nation. Putin's machinations aren't national
will, as he has suppressed independent discourse (and fair votes) for years.

On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 10:21:31 AM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
> After the major powers developed the ability to destroy the entire planet,
> NATO was obsolete.

Why would Finland look at the Ukraine situation and believe that?
Why would Germany recall the airlift and having half their nation in the USSR, and
believe that?

>The only purpose for NATO's existence and its expansion
> is to enable a first strike against Russia, that's why NATO is expanding
> all the way to Russia's borders.

Hell, no, it is not. NATO hasn't been a first-attack agressor, is unlikely to
become one. Like the Japanese 'reason' to attack Pearl Harbor, this is
a militaristic fiction. Alas, in the age of mutual assured destruction,
acting on militaristic fictions is a world-shattering threat.
The world would be a better place if Putin were fitted with a muzzle.

Nutter...

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> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 10:21:31 AM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
>> After the major powers developed the ability to destroy the entire planet,
>> NATO was obsolete.
>
> Why would Finland look at the Ukraine situation and believe that?
> Why would Germany recall the airlift and having half their nation in the USSR, and
> believe that?
>
>>The only purpose for NATO's existence and its expansion
>> is to enable a first strike against Russia, that's why NATO is expanding
>> all the way to Russia's borders.
>
> Hell, no, it is not. NATO hasn't been a first-attack agressor, is unlikely to
> become one. Like the Japanese 'reason' to attack Pearl Harbor, this is
> a militaristic fiction. Alas, in the age of mutual assured destruction,
> acting on militaristic fictions is a world-shattering threat.
> The world would be a better place if Putin were fitted with a muzzle.
>
>

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Fri, 11 Mar 2022 20:26:15 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t0gb97$h9l$1@dont-email.me>).

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

vQRUT3n1mBHu

"Far too often, the Ukrainian issue is posed as a showdown: whether
Ukraine joins the East or the West. But if Ukraine is to survive and
thrive, it must not be either side's outpost against the other - it should
function as a bridge between them." (Henry Kissinger, 2014)

"The neocons are trying to fool people that NATO entrance for Ukraine
would lead to deterrence and peace, when in fact it is a recipe for war
and disaster." (Rand Paul, January 28, 2022)

Then, shortly before the invasion, Zelensky was demanding NATO admittance.
Apparently Kamala Harris made a careless statement of approval too, but I
haven't been able to find a record of that. Apparently the same happened
with Georgia.

It's no secret. Many Americans and others have warned about it. NATO has
been expanding towards Russia's border since the Cold War supposedly
ended. It's naked aggression. They want a first strike capability. There
is no other reason considering the fact all the major powers can destroy
the whole freaking Earth.

The idea Zelensky is just a good guy trying to help his people is
laughable. It's called ACTING. It ignores the FACTS on the ground. An
incredible amount of yada yada yada going on while millions of Ukrainians
are being displaced and killed. But who cares, after you realize the sad
truth, after more of they're homes are destroyed and more of them are
dead, it will be all Russia's fault.

The current BIG crop of warmongers are like the guy being held back from a
fight, flailing as if set free he would pummel his adversary (and in this
situation kill everybody else). Must be why the warmongers aren't calling
the shots.

whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 5:27:49 AM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
>
>> Difficult to believe how many clueless people are rooting for death
>> and destruction, praying for World War III.
>
> Zero. Not difficult to believe that.
>>
>> Millions being displaced and killed so Zelensky can keep his job.
>
> Not 'so Putin can expand his empire'? Zelensky is an elected official, his job
> is the will of an entire nation. Putin's machinations aren't national
> will, as he has suppressed independent discourse (and fair votes) for years.

Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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> The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
>
> And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
>> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
>> CLUELESS...
>
> NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.
>
> And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
> formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
> Fri, 11 Mar 2022 20:26:15 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
> <t0gb97$h9l$1@dont-email.me>).
>
> This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
> readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
> follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.
>
> vQRUT3n1mBHu
>
>
>

Or maybe the warmongers are really paper tigers, like so many keyboard
warriors.

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Fri, 11 Mar 2022 21:02:12 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t0gdck$ms4$2@dont-email.me>).

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET has been 52.1% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

a1rtypnF6oVG

On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 1:01:22 PM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:

> Then, shortly before the invasion, Zelensky was demanding NATO admittance.
> Apparently Kamala Harris made a careless statement of approval too, but I
> haven't been able to find a record of that. Apparently the same happened
> with Georgia.
>
> It's no secret. Many Americans and others have warned about it. NATO has
> been expanding towards Russia's border since the Cold War supposedly
> ended. It's naked aggression. They want a first strike capability.

False. Ukraine's Lviv (formerly Lvov, Poland) was first invaded by Stalin, who
later turned that city (and its Jews) over to Germany. Another, recent invasion
from Russia was in Crimea. This is a third "first strike" from Russia.

NATO can, and has, kept borders intact regardless of Russian agressions.
NATO has not conquered any territory, all NATO nations are self-governing.
I suspect many inhabitants of Ukraine prefer to be self-governed, and
whether they speak Russian or not, do not expect good rule from military
governors and/or Moscow. NATO as an alternative to Moscow or unelected puppets
is thus an attractive prospect.

Ukraine's history with Russian rulers includes the 'collectivation of agriculture' episode
which claimed millions of lives. How many, history may never know, but... Ukraine
remembers.

NATO is a MILITARY organization.

But it's true, not all countries have been invaded by NATO, and the
leadership of some of those have decided to join NATO. But the idea NATO
membership is all "the will of the people" is hilarious.

https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY?t=16

"If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money... Well son of a bitch, he got fired!"

But of course (with a straight face), Joe wanted the prosecutor fired
because he WASN'T investigating the company his son was working for...

That's sillier than the "oceanfront property in Arizona" stuff.

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> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 1:01:22 PM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
>
>> Then, shortly before the invasion, Zelensky was demanding NATO admittance.
>> Apparently Kamala Harris made a careless statement of approval too, but I
>> haven't been able to find a record of that. Apparently the same happened
>> with Georgia.
>>
>> It's no secret. Many Americans and others have warned about it. NATO has
>> been expanding towards Russia's border since the Cold War supposedly
>> ended. It's naked aggression. They want a first strike capability.
>
> False. Ukraine's Lviv (formerly Lvov, Poland) was first invaded by Stalin, who
> later turned that city (and its Jews) over to Germany. Another, recent invasion
> from Russia was in Crimea. This is a third "first strike" from Russia.
>
> NATO can, and has, kept borders intact regardless of Russian agressions.
> NATO has not conquered any territory, all NATO nations are self-governing.
> I suspect many inhabitants of Ukraine prefer to be self-governed, and
> whether they speak Russian or not, do not expect good rule from military
> governors and/or Moscow. NATO as an alternative to Moscow or unelected puppets
> is thus an attractive prospect.
>
> Ukraine's history with Russian rulers includes the 'collectivation of agriculture' episode
> which claimed millions of lives. How many, history may never know, but... Ukraine
> remembers.
>
>

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sat, 12 Mar 2022 03:55:29 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t0h5jh$18f$2@dont-email.me>.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

FFGwGawbdZYY

Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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> The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
>
> And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
>> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
>> CLUELESS...
>
> And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
> incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sat, 12 Mar 2022 03:55:29 -0000
> (UTC) in message-id <t0h5jh$18f$2@dont-email.me>.
>
> This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
> readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
> follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.
>
> FFGwGawbdZYY
>
>
>

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sat, 12 Mar 2022 04:11:57 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t0h6ic$18f$6@dont-email.me>.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

EFEYYqxIiRDe

On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 7:55:39 PM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
> NATO is a MILITARY organization.
>
Yeah, NATO is military, BUT not agressive; never has a land become a NATO state by conquest.
Russia, after the Crimea insurrection/invasion, handed out batches of Russian
passports to their new citizens.

> But it's true, not all countries have been invaded by NATO, and the
> leadership of some of those have decided to join NATO. But the idea NATO
> membership is all "the will of the people" is hilarious.
>
> https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY?t=16
>
> "If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money... Well son of a bitch, he got fired!"

So what? The prosecutor was arguably corrupt. Zelensky arguably isn't, and wasn't.
Despite the US membership in NATO, that wasn't a NATO action in any case.
Contrast the 'influence' exerted (2004) when Viktor Yushchenko got a big dose of dioxin
and nearly died. Some say that sounds like a KGB trick.

Bozo is a self-destructive cannibal leftist America-bashing troll from
Australia.

Bozo Bill Sloman is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be
reasoned with...

"the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
(Bozo paraphrased)

"the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
(Bill Sloman)