John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
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> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno, a.k.a. Always Wrong, wrote:
>
>> Ed Lee wrote:
>
>>> I think they just want to scare people to move away.
>>
>> From THEIR OWN LANDS
>
> Joe Biden... "I told them they wouldn't get the billion dollars
> unless they fired the prosecutor...Well son of a bitch, they fired
> the prosecutor!" (paraphrased)
>

False quote more like. It was about a corrupt individual, and it was
OUR NATION"S choice, not Biden's. Biden merely delivered the US'
position on it.

You might catch up one day, but you will likely croak first. One can
only hope.

The temptation is to counter the cannibal leftists by rooting for the
invasion of Ukraine. It was provoked, but I won't root for it because that
plays into cannibal leftist hands. Destruction is their thing...

--
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

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> Subject: Re: OT: Zelensky wants demilitarized zones around Ukraine's nuclear power plants
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> John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
> news:t06s7g$b4n$3@dont-email.me:
>
>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno, a.k.a. Always Wrong, wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Lee wrote:
>>
>>>> I think they just want to scare people to move away.
>>>
>>> From THEIR OWN LANDS
>>
>> Joe Biden... "I told them they wouldn't get the billion dollars
>> unless they fired the prosecutor...Well son of a bitch, they fired
>> the prosecutor!" (paraphrased)
>>
>
> False quote more like. It was about a corrupt individual, and it was
> OUR NATION"S choice, not Biden's. Biden merely delivered the US'
> position on it.
>
> You might catch up one day, but you will likely croak first. One can
> only hope.
>
>

The temptation is to counter the cannibal leftists by rooting for the
invasion of Ukraine. It was provoked, but I won't root for it because that
plays into cannibal leftist hands. Destruction is their thing...

--
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> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 5:11:05 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
>> Always Wrong is the first foulmouthed crybaby.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/MY3JsqVR_04
>>
>> There's a little history about NATO meddling in Ukraine, provoking Russia.
>>
>> Ukraine was controlled by Russia up until the 1990s.
>
> Ukraine was part of the USSR until the 8th December 1991, when they formally declared their independence, carrying out the will of the Ukrainian people as expressed in a referendum carried out on the 1st December 1991.
>
>> Ukraine borders Russia. It's very close to Moscow, only one hour in time zone difference.
>
> But it's quite a long way south west of Moscow - 469 miles or 755 kilometres. Quite long drive.
>
>> The expansion of NATO is for the purpose of establishing a first strike capability against Russia.
>
> In John Doe's half-witted opinion.
>
>> It has nothing to do with defending any Western nation.
>
> Another half-witted opinion.
>
>> We wouldn't even allow missiles in Cuba. Meddling in Ukraine is like the prior USSR attempting to incorporate Mexico and Canada.
>
> Except that the US isn't "meddling" in the Ukraine.
>
>> You can only poke the bear so many times...
>
> Russia isn't a bear, and nobody has been poking it.
>
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney
>
>

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 8 Mar 2022 10:09:24 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t07a0k$8ka$1@dont-email.me>.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

7XN/Me/KutZS

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Tue, 8 Mar 2022 10:10:10 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t07a21$8ka$2@dont-email.me>).

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET has been 52.8% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

pNzLP/EWU+2m

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 8:43:52 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 11:24:15 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:33:24 AM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:
> > > He should have never given up his job as a comedian...
> > It was an artillery bombardment, not an air attack. Artillery will not damage those massive concrete structures in the plant. It takes a HUGE amount of HE to break reinforced concrete, and artillery is not it. The whole story is a bunch of mass media hysteria. Artillery is good for destroying all the big transmission distribution network outside of the plant. And that's enough. it's out of commission either way.
> Fred hasn't noticed that it was diesel auxiliary generators that failed at Fukushima, not the containment shell. Mess with a complicated system like a nuclear reactor and the results aren't easily predictable.

The generators were almost certainly housed in a structurally substantial housing, like underground. The Russians know all too well the consequences of a catastrophic meltdown and never want to repeat it. It is just as likely to send a radioactive cloud into Russia as anywhere else. In an old interview with Gorbachev, he described how he found out about Chernobyl when the Swedish government contacted him to inquire about the origins of a radioactive cloud that passed through their airspace. Up to then the Russian nuclear authority was too timid to pass on the news to the highest level of their government. As a side note, France really got doused but good by that same radioactive cloud, and suffered major contamination in the vineyards. But they covered it up rather than take a hit to their industry.

>
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney

Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

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> The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
>
> And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
>> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
>> CLUELESS...
>
> NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.
>
> And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
> formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
> Tue, 8 Mar 2022 10:10:10 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
> <t07a21$8ka$2@dont-email.me>).
>
> Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
> <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
> (UTC):
>
>> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
>> except insults to this group.
>
> Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
> to USENET has been 52.8% of its posts contributing "nothing except
> insults" to USENET.
>
> This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
> readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
> follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.
>
> pNzLP/EWU+2m
>
>
>

Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

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> The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
>
> And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
>> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
>> CLUELESS...
>
> And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
> incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 8 Mar 2022 10:09:24 -0000
> (UTC) in message-id <t07a0k$8ka$1@dont-email.me>.
>
> This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
> readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
> follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.
>
> 7XN/Me/KutZS
>
>
>

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Tue, 8 Mar 2022 13:24:01 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t07ldg$9u7$1@dont-email.me>).

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

QJ/xlBhAssnN

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 8 Mar 2022 13:24:16 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t07ldv$9u7$2@dont-email.me>.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

ugr6WWDyiuT6

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 7:28:19 AM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:43:42 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 8:43:52 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 11:24:15 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:33:24 AM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:
> > > > > He should have never given up his job as a comedian...
> > > > It was an artillery bombardment, not an air attack. Artillery will not damage those massive concrete structures in the plant. It takes a HUGE amount of HE to break reinforced concrete, and artillery is not it. The whole story is a bunch of mass media hysteria. Artillery is good for destroying all the big transmission distribution network outside of the plant. And that's enough. it's out of commission either way.
> > > Fred hasn't noticed that it was diesel auxiliary generators that failed at Fukushima, not the containment shell. Mess with a complicated system like a nuclear reactor and the results aren't easily predictable.
> >
> > The generators were almost certainly housed in a structurally substantial housing, like underground.
> The Fukushima reactors were equally securely housed. It didn't prevent local contamination.
> > The Russians know all too well the consequences of a catastrophic meltdown and never want to repeat it.
> As does everybody else. Not wanting to have a nuclear disaster doesn't prevent them from happening, and having some military clown take risks he doesn't appreciate by shelling buildings around a nuclear reactor isn't a great idea.

I'm pretty sure Russia has a nuclear engineer at the site directing the targeting for the military clown.

The mass media as usual is trying to terrorize the public with as much stupid speculation as possible. They recently reported the radioactivity at the Chernobyl site has been increasing since the Russian occupation. This is not possible unless the Russians compromised that big containment shelter, which they did not. And why Russia would even want to occupy that place, which is a toxic health hazard, or the Ukrainians would want to defend it, is beyond all rational thought. The Ukrainians claimed that "fierce" fighting took place there, but the international nuclear inspectors didn't find any evidence of fighting.

> > It is just as likely to send a radioactive cloud into Russia as anywhere else.
> You've got to know the risk you are running before you fire the shells fro that to make any difference,
> > In an old interview with Gorbachev, he described how he found out about Chernobyl when the Swedish government contacted him to inquire about the origins of a radioactive cloud that passed through their airspace. Up to then the Russian nuclear authority was too timid to pass on the news to the highest level of their government. As a side note, France really got doused but good by that same radioactive cloud, and suffered major contamination in the vineyards. But they covered it up rather than take a hit to their industry.
> There is no shortage of short-sighted half-wits in any country.
>
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney

On 9/3/22 4:26 am, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> The mass media as usual is trying to terrorize the public with as much stupid speculation as possible. They recently reported the radioactivity at the Chernobyl site has been increasing since the Russian occupation. This is not possible unless the Russians compromised that big containment shelter, which they did not.

You don't reckon driving a few hundred big trucks around might kick up
some of the radioactive dust from surface soil around the site?

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
news:96c8998d-e6e5-464a-83d4-de7e8a965a10n@googlegroups.com:

> I'm pretty sure Russia has a nuclear engineer at the site
> directing the targeting for the military clown.

They cannot even keep their dry rotted APC tires filled.

They sprayed some large caliber machine gun fire at the building and
hit a couple external Gas cylinders to scare away the workers there.
Then, they easily occupied the fully functional facility.

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 4:21:05 PM UTC-5, Clifford Heath wrote:
> On 9/3/22 4:26 am, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > The mass media as usual is trying to terrorize the public with as much stupid speculation as possible. They recently reported the radioactivity at the Chernobyl site has been increasing since the Russian occupation. This is not possible unless the Russians compromised that big containment shelter, which they did not.
> You don't reckon driving a few hundred big trucks around might kick up
> some of the radioactive dust from surface soil around the site?

LOL_ so does a wind storm. Now the over-reactors are fretting over the power being cut so they no longer have active cooling for the spent fuel in storage. Everyone is screaming continent-wide contamination.

The IAEA sees 'no critical impact' on safety however. I tend to go with them rather than a bunch of career liars and cheats with an agenda.

https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-nuclear-firm-warns-radiation-risk-after-power-cut-occupied-chernobyl-2022-03-09/

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:28:23 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 4:26:50 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 7:28:19 AM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:43:42 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 8:43:52 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 11:24:15 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:33:24 AM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:
> > > > > > > He should have never given up his job as a comedian...
> > > > > > It was an artillery bombardment, not an air attack. Artillery will not damage those massive concrete structures in the plant. It takes a HUGE amount of HE to break reinforced concrete, and artillery is not it. The whole story is a bunch of mass media hysteria. Artillery is good for destroying all the big transmission distribution network outside of the plant. And that's enough. it's out of commission either way.
> > > > > Fred hasn't noticed that it was diesel auxiliary generators that failed at Fukushima, not the containment shell. Mess with a complicated system like a nuclear reactor and the results aren't easily predictable.
> > > >
> > > > The generators were almost certainly housed in a structurally substantial housing, like underground.
> > > The Fukushima reactors were equally securely housed. It didn't prevent local contamination.
> > > > The Russians know all too well the consequences of a catastrophic meltdown and never want to repeat it.
> > > As does everybody else. Not wanting to have a nuclear disaster doesn't prevent them from happening, and having some military clown take risks he doesn't appreciate by shelling buildings around a nuclear reactor isn't a great idea.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure Russia has a nuclear engineer at the site directing the targeting for the military clown.
> Really? Why?

Because that's how they roll. You would be surprised at the kinds of people they put on the battlefield in far less important conflicts. The only question is about the kind of people they call nuclear engineers.

> > The mass media as usual is trying to terrorize the public with as much stupid speculation as possible. They recently reported the radioactivity at the Chernobyl site has been increasing since the Russian occupation. This is not possible unless the Russians compromised that big containment shelter, which they did not. And why Russia would even want to occupy that place, which is a toxic health hazard, or the Ukrainians would want to defend it, is beyond all rational thought. The Ukrainians claimed that "fierce" fighting took place there, but the international nuclear inspectors didn't find any evidence of fighting.
> As Clifford Heath has pointed out., the problem with Chernobyl was that it spread a lot of radioactive junk outside the reactor - some of it got as far as Sweden, the UK and France - before the containment shelter was set up around the stuff that hadn't got out. The whole area is contaminated.

Nothing like reading back what I already told you yesterday...

> > > > It is just as likely to send a radioactive cloud into Russia as anywhere else.
> > >
> > > You've got to know the risk you are running before you fire the shells for that to make any difference,
> > >
> > > > In an old interview with Gorbachev, he described how he found out about Chernobyl when the Swedish government contacted him to inquire about the origins of a radioactive cloud that passed through their airspace. Up to then the Russian nuclear authority was too timid to pass on the news to the highest level of their government. As a side note, France really got doused but good by that same radioactive cloud, and suffered major contamination in the vineyards. But they covered it up rather than take a hit to their industry.
> > >
> > > There is no shortage of short-sighted half-wits in any country.
>
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
news:dad01bb1-5d6f-4b16-9b6c-0ff7a2a89ff9n@googlegroups.com:

> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 4:21:05 PM UTC-5, Clifford Heath
> wrote:
>> On 9/3/22 4:26 am, Fred Bloggs wrote:
>> > The mass media as usual is trying to terrorize the public with
>> > as much
> stupid speculation as possible. They recently reported the
> radioactivity at the Chernobyl site has been increasing since the
> Russian occupation. This is not possible unless the Russians
> compromised that big containment shelter, which they did not.
>> You don't reckon driving a few hundred big trucks around might
>> kick up some of the radioactive dust from surface soil around the
>> site?
>
> LOL_ so does a wind storm. Now the over-reactors are fretting over
> the power being cut so they no longer have active cooling for the
> spent fuel in storage. Everyone is screaming continent-wide
> contamination.
>
> The IAEA sees 'no critical impact' on safety however. I tend to go
> with them rather than a bunch of career liars and cheats with an
> agenda.
>
> https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-nuclear-firm-warns-radiation-
> risk-after-power-cut-occupied-chernobyl-2022-03-09/
>

Send Elon Musk over there to have a nice big dinner served in the
containment room on a bench that has been there this whole time. He
says... no big deal.

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 7:36:54 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

> Send Elon Musk over there to have a nice big dinner served in the
> containment room on a bench that has been there this whole time. He
> says... no big deal.

And us, FFF, with him.

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 10:03:26 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 7:43:18 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:28:23 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 4:26:50 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 7:28:19 AM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:43:42 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 8:43:52 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 11:24:15 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:33:24 AM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > He should have never given up his job as a comedian...
> > > > > > > > It was an artillery bombardment, not an air attack. Artillery will not damage those massive concrete structures in the plant. It takes a HUGE amount of HE to break reinforced concrete, and artillery is not it. The whole story is a bunch of mass media hysteria. Artillery is good for destroying all the big transmission distribution network outside of the plant. And that's enough. it's out of commission either way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fred hasn't noticed that it was diesel auxiliary generators that failed at Fukushima, not the containment shell. Mess with a complicated system like a nuclear reactor and the results aren't easily predictable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The generators were almost certainly housed in a structurally substantial housing, like underground.
> > > > > The Fukushima reactors were equally securely housed. It didn't prevent local contamination.
> > > > > > The Russians know all too well the consequences of a catastrophic meltdown and never want to repeat it.
> > > > > As does everybody else. Not wanting to have a nuclear disaster doesn't prevent them from happening, and having some military clown take risks he doesn't appreciate by shelling buildings around a nuclear reactor isn't a great idea.
> > > >
> > > > I'm pretty sure Russia has a nuclear engineer at the site directing the targeting for the military clown.
> > > Really? Why?
> >
> > Because that's how they roll. You would be surprised at the kinds of people they put on the battlefield in far less important conflicts. The only question is about the kind of people they call nuclear engineers.
> I might be surprised at what they've done in the past. I'm pretty surprised that they were silly enough to shell a working nuclear reactor. The whole Ukranian invasion is pretty silly, and does suggest a fair bit of high level lunacy.
> > > > The mass media as usual is trying to terrorize the public with as much stupid speculation as possible. They recently reported the radioactivity at the Chernobyl site has been increasing since the Russian occupation. This is not possible unless the Russians compromised that big containment shelter, which they did not. And why Russia would even want to occupy that place, which is a toxic health hazard, or the Ukrainians would want to defend it, is beyond all rational thought. The Ukrainians claimed that "fierce" fighting took place there, but the international nuclear inspectors didn't find any evidence of fighting.
> >
> > > As Clifford Heath has pointed out., the problem with Chernobyl was that it spread a lot of radioactive junk outside the reactor - some of it got as far as Sweden, the UK and France - before the containment shelter was set up around the stuff that hadn't got out. The whole area is contaminated.
> >
> > Nothing like reading back what I already told you yesterday...
> So how come you don't seem to have understood it?
> > > > > > It is just as likely to send a radioactive cloud into Russia as anywhere else.
> > > > >
> > > > > You've got to know the risk you are running before you fire the shells for that to make any difference,
> > > > >
> > > > > > In an old interview with Gorbachev, he described how he found out about Chernobyl when the Swedish government contacted him to inquire about the origins of a radioactive cloud that passed through their airspace. Up to then the Russian nuclear authority was too timid to pass on the news to the highest level of their government. As a side note, France really got doused but good by that same radioactive cloud, and suffered major contamination in the vineyards. But they covered it up rather than take a hit to their industry.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no shortage of short-sighted half-wits in any country.

More of your pat insulting bullshit. You're the only one around here having trouble understanding anything. You like to think of yourself as this complex thinker but you're not. Since Chernobyl occurred 36 years ago, its fuel rods are long past requiring active cooling The Ukrainians must be storing recently spent fuel rods there. Loss of remote temperature monitoring does not mean loss of monitoring.
Nothing going on in Ukraine is critical:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00660-z

>
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> Bill Sloman, Sydney