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* Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack RussianDavid Brown
+* Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...Lasse Langwadt Christensen
|`* Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...Phil Allison
| +* Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...Edward Hernandez
| |`- Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...Edward Hernandez
| `* Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...M Kfivethousand
|  `* Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...Edward Hernandez
|   `- Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...Edward Hernandez
+* Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...Edward Hernandez
|`- Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...Edward Hernandez
`* Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...whit3rd
 `- Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...whit3rd

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Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...

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Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian
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 by: David Brown - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 12:33 UTC

On 13/03/2022 12:46, John Doe wrote:
> Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
> Russian soldiers...
>

You are /way/ behind the times. The Ukrainian government published
instructions for making Molotov cocktails some two weeks ago.

> Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

Citizens have every right to oppose an invading army.

The legalities of what constitutes a war crime are complicated, and I
don't pretend to know the rules.

We do know, with a high level of confidence, that the Russian army has
been committing war crimes during the invasion.

>
> Dirty laundry...
>

War is rarely neat and tidy.

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 by: Lasse Langwadt Chris - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 12:40 UTC

søndag den 13. marts 2022 kl. 13.33.13 UTC+1 skrev David Brown:
> On 13/03/2022 12:46, John Doe wrote:
> > Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
> > Russian soldiers...
> >
> You are /way/ behind the times. The Ukrainian government published
> instructions for making Molotov cocktails some two weeks ago.
> > Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???
> Citizens have every right to oppose an invading army.
>
> The legalities of what constitutes a war crime are complicated, and I
> don't pretend to know the rules.

https://lieber.westpoint.edu/are-molotov-cocktails-lawful-weapons/

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 by: Edward Hernandez - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 13:50 UTC

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sun, 13 Mar 2022 13:43:34 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t0kse6$gjo$3@dont-email.me>.

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 by: Edward Hernandez - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 13:59 UTC

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sun, 13 Mar 2022 13:58:17 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t0kt9p$5ua$2@dont-email.me>).

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

pCD3kBdmAjwt

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Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
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 by: whit3rd - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 18:30 UTC

On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:43:46 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
> But of course in reality there is no such thing as a "war crime".
>
> Who makes "war crime" law? The winner of the last war.

Well, no. In the case of WW II Germany, it was prosecution under German
law that was definitive. If it was illegal under German law to round up
a few dozen citizens and execute them without trial, then it was illegal
in German-held territories. Effective war tactics, while brutal, were
not found to be illegal (notably, Otto Skorzeny was not prosecuted for war crimes).

There are treaties on treatment of prisoners of war, for example, that
are also enforceable law. There are US examples of conviction of US
military jailers for such things, from Iraq.

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Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
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 by: Phil Allison - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:06 UTC

John Dope Troll wrote:
================
> >
> > A population facing an invading army can do anything.
>
> As can the invading army.

** That is where the Joke Dope troll is 1000% WRONG !!

No army has the right to invade a nation to take it over.
============================================

> Self-defense is a basic human right,

** But there is zero right to invade and kill citizens in order to take over a nation.

FYI: The whole idea of a " legally declared war" was abolished in 1947.

Russia is committing a " crime against humanity " as well as many war crimes.
If Putin or any of his gang were to ever leave Russia, they could be jailed immediately and put on trial.

Russia is now a pariah country and likely to remain so for decades.

...... Phil

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 by: Edward Hernandez - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:30 UTC

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:24:19 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t0mch3$rnc$2@dont-email.me>.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

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 by: Edward Hernandez - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:41 UTC

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:40:56 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t0mdg8$rnc$7@dont-email.me>.

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 by: whit3rd - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 04:01 UTC

On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 7:44:44 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
> Idiot...

Accompanied by no facts whatever... I guess facts wouldn't impress the
KGB officer looking over John Doe's shoulder

> whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:43:46 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
> >> But of course in reality there is no such thing as a "war crime".

Fatuous, and false.
History defines parts of our reality. whit3rd noted historic facts

> >> Who makes "war crime" law? The winner of the last war.
> >
> > Well, no. In the case of WW II Germany, it was prosecution under German
> > law that was definitive. If it was illegal under German law to round up
> > a few dozen citizens and execute them without trial, then it was illegal
> > in German-held territories. Effective war tactics, while brutal, were
> > not found to be illegal (notably, Otto Skorzeny was not prosecuted for war crimes).
> >
> > There are treaties on treatment of prisoners of war, for example, that
> > are also enforceable law. There are US examples of conviction of US
> > military jailers for such things, from Iraq.

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On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 10:24:29 PM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:
> Whining about "war crimes" while Ukrainians are displaced and killed.
>
> So many keyboard warmongers who apparently know NOTHING about history are
> craving World War III. Distinct possibility, the next time, when the fever
> for war is even greater, maybe it will happen.
>
> If Trump were still in office, the screaming for war would be deafening.

I can just about guarantee that screaming would be present no matter who the president would be at the time of the 2022 invasion

In fact Trump constantly complains that Bolton was a thorn in his side for his constant advocacy of military action tantamount to world War 3

Everything Trump does is related to superficial appearance

I can tell you that if he started eating vegetarian it would be to keep a trim figure not for any sensitivity to animal life or climate impacts

But tho you might say he would never take such stands, he would if those concerns paid him more than his current keepers

Problem is that vegetarian diets are not designed for weight loss so except for a financial sponsor he will keep eating mickey ds

Or now that McDonald's has abandoned Russia, he will be eating Uncle Vanya, Moscow's answer to the quarter pounder, with a trademark interestingly resembling the Golden arches, on its side, presumably rotated on the axis of evil

mk5000

Marie
You're a strange little one
Marie
Always on the run
Marie
Where do you belong--The Bachelors

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

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This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

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