On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 13:43:11 +0100, John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:

> I don't understand why we are putting sanctions on Russia. THE SANCTIONS
> ARE HURTING AMERICANS MORE THAN RUSSIA'S INVASION OF UKRAINE HURT
> AMERICANS. Seems lots of people want to hurt Russia more than they want to
> help their own country.

And they're hurting the Russian civilians, their price of food has tripled. In a war, aren't you supposed to go after the military, not the civilians? The war crimes being committed here are by the west, not Russia. Buy an I love Russia tshirt from Ebay and wear it proudly whenever you go out. It's so funny to hear everyone tutting.

In article <op.1jpjssarmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>, CK1@nospam.com says...
>
> And they're hurting the Russian civilians, their price of food has tripled. In a war, aren't you supposed to go after the military, not the civilians? The war crimes being committed here are by the west, not Russia. Buy an I love Russia tshirt from Ebay and wear it proudly whenever you go out. It's so funny to hear everyone
tutting.
>
>

The way I see it is that everyone in the country involved are targets.
No such thing as military or civilians. The civilians only 'hire' or
press into service people to be in the military even if the individual
does not want to be in the military. In the US the major targets should
be Congress as they tell our military what to do.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:11:29 +0100, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

> In article <op.1jpjssarmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>, CK1@nospam.com says...
>>
>> And they're hurting the Russian civilians, their price of food has tripled. In a war, aren't you supposed to go after the military, not the civilians? The war crimes being committed here are by the west, not Russia. Buy an I love Russia tshirt from Ebay and wear it proudly whenever you go out. It's so funny to hear everyone
> tutting.
>
> The way I see it is that everyone in the country involved are targets.
> No such thing as military or civilians.

How many Russians agree with what Putin is doing? 9 out of 10 Russians I know do not.

> The civilians only 'hire' or
> press into service people to be in the military even if the individual
> does not want to be in the military.

They do not. They do not make those decisions. Did you decide what your country's military does?

> In the US the major targets should
> be Congress as they tell our military what to do.

So not you as a civilian then?

In article <op.1jpntxf9mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>, CK1@nospam.com says...
> They do not. They do not make those decisions. Did you decide what your country's military does?
>
> > In the US the major targets should
> > be Congress as they tell our military what to do.
>
> So not you as a civilian then?
>
>

In a small way I decide what the military does. I vote for congress and
they tell the military what to do. I may just get out voted.

A civilian only untuil the government tells me I am in the military even
if I do not want to be. In a way that is part of what the 2nd ammendment
says.

On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 00:43:21 +0100, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

> In article <op.1jpntxf9mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>, CK1@nospam.com says...
>> They do not. They do not make those decisions. Did you decide what your country's military does?
>>
>> > In the US the major targets should
>> > be Congress as they tell our military what to do.
>>
>> So not you as a civilian then?
>>
>>
>
> In a small way I decide what the military does. I vote for congress and
> they tell the military what to do. I may just get out voted.
>
> A civilian only untuil the government tells me I am in the military even
> if I do not want to be. In a way that is part of what the 2nd ammendment
> says.

The point is you probably don't agree with what your government's military does. So an enemy of the USA shouldn't be killing you, since you aren't the one waging the war.

Think of it on a smaller scale. In the company you work for, one of your colleagues kills my brother. Should I take revenge by blowing up the whole company and killing you too? Or just go after the guy that did it?

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:op.1jpjssarmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 13:43:11 +0100, John Doe
> <always.look@message.header> wrote:
>
>> I don't understand why we are putting sanctions on Russia. THE
>> SANCTIONS ARE HURTING AMERICANS MORE THAN RUSSIA'S INVASION OF
>> UKRAINE HURT AMERICANS. Seems lots of people want to hurt Russia
>> more than they want to help their own country.
>
> And they're hurting the Russian civilians, their price of food has
> tripled.

Yes, and that should PRESSURE Putin to HALT his actions and return
to his own nation, you retarded fuck!

> In a war,

It was not a war, jackass. It was a criminal invasion of a
sovereign nation by the military arm of a leader misled nation.

> aren't you supposed to go after the military,

If Ukraine bunker buster bombed the Kremlin, it would be a fair
response then, right?

> not the civilians?

We are sanctioning Russia to force Putin to stop. There were none
before he started his illegal invasion. And yes, it is illegal.
Russia is a UN member nation and Putin even lies to his own
ambassadors.

> The war crimes being committed here are by the
> west, not Russia.

You are an idiot. There are hungry Russians, but we are not seeing
bombs falling on proper Russian military targets or civillian
sectors, because that would be seen by Putin as an attack and he
would "escalate", yet he gets to obliterate infrastructure and murder
thousands of innocents because dumbfucks like you think he was right
to "feel threatened"? Bullshit.

> Buy an I love Russia tshirt from Ebay and wear
> it proudly whenever you go out.

FUCK OFF AND DIE, Russian propaganda spreading jackass!

> It's so funny to hear everyone
> tutting.

Learn the language, dumbfuck. That is not even a word.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:op.1jpntxf9mvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

> How many Russians agree with what Putin is doing? 9 out of 10
> Russians I know do not.
>

Then they should take him out. And ed the police state rule they
live under. Ooops... doesn't matter how many you know if they are not
fighting against it. Take those fucking communist pig cops arresting
folks out and they'll stop attacking the protesters. Give them the old
Putin Polonium pellet treatment. See how they like it.

9 out of ten Russians should be taking their country back from a
murderous dictator. They should TRY to be as brave as those n the
nation Putin is illegally invading and murdering innocents in. You all
need to get some balls and put an end to the communist regime that has
fucked up your region of the world for centuries and get on board with
the free nations of the world.

Get some courage, Russian people. Put an end to the communism that
has harmed your nation. It was not us. It is most ceratinly your
leadership doing it, so they are who you must make pay. It really is
that simple.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:op.1jpr0gpcmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

> Or just go after the guy that did it?

Then wake the nine out of ten Russians "you know" the fuck up and
tell them to take back control of their nation, by going after they guy
AND the parliament that did it. You know... the State Duma and The
Russian Federation. As well as the head of the snake. Then STAND DOWN
your military hardware and your nuke inventory. It really is that
simple. Otherwise...

You and your brother are dumber than dogshit and I would take you and
the building you were both in out. But only if you were the only two
in it. After all, you sully the human gene pool, Kinsey.

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 07:25:32 +0100, <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:op.1jpjssarmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:
>
>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 13:43:11 +0100, John Doe
>> <always.look@message.header> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't understand why we are putting sanctions on Russia. THE
>>> SANCTIONS ARE HURTING AMERICANS MORE THAN RUSSIA'S INVASION OF
>>> UKRAINE HURT AMERICANS. Seems lots of people want to hurt Russia
>>> more than they want to help their own country.
>>
>> And they're hurting the Russian civilians, their price of food has
>> tripled.
>
> Yes, and that should PRESSURE Putin to HALT his actions and return
> to his own nation, you retarded fuck!

Yes, let's punish someone else in the hope it persuades him. Arsehole. Why not blow up Putin himself?

>> In a war,
>
> It was not a war, jackass. It was a criminal invasion of a
> sovereign nation by the military arm of a leader misled nation.

Why do you say "was" for something that's still in progress? Learn about tenses.

>> aren't you supposed to go after the military,
>
> If Ukraine bunker buster bombed the Kremlin, it would be a fair
> response then, right?

Yes.

>> not the civilians?
>
> We are sanctioning Russia to force Putin to stop. There were none
> before he started his illegal invasion. And yes, it is illegal.
> Russia is a UN member nation and Putin even lies to his own
> ambassadors.

We should fight the war properl., with violence.

>> he war crimes being committed here are by the
>> west, not Russia.
>
> You are an idiot.

What's with the indents?

> There are hungry Russians, but we are not seeing
> bombs falling on proper Russian military targets or civillian
> sectors, because that would be seen by Putin as an attack and he
> would "escalate",

So we're scared? How pathetic.

> yet he gets to obliterate infrastructure and murder
> thousands of innocents because dumbfucks like you think he was right
> to "feel threatened"? Bullshit.

All the Ukraine has to do is surrender. They were part of the USSR after all. They should give back the land they stole.

>> Buy an I love Russia tshirt from Ebay and wear
>> it proudly whenever you go out.
>
> FUCK OFF AND DIE, Russian propaganda spreading jackass!

Exactly the reaction I love seeing in public.

>> It's so funny to hear everyone tutting.
>
> Learn the language, dumbfuck. That is not even a word.

All those are words and all are accepted by my spellchecker. Sorry, I speak English not American, which isn't a real Langeland, just a bastardisation of ours.

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:53:52 +0100, John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:

> According to Merriam-Webster in its worldwide public dictionary,
> "tut" is US English...
>
> "used to express disapproval or disbelief"

US and UK English, so no idea why he was confused. It's onomatopoeic - the noise you make when mildly irritated, by sucking your tongue off the front of the roof of your mouth.

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 07:44:52 +0100, <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:op.1jpr0gpcmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:
>
>> Or just go after the guy that did it?
>
> Then wake the nine out of ten Russians "you know"

Putting that in quotes is meaningless. And you split an infinitive.

> the fuck up and
> tell them to take back control of their nation, by going after they guy
> AND the parliament that did it. You know... the State Duma and The
> Russian Federation. As well as the head of the snake. Then STAND DOWN
> your military hardware and your nuke inventory. It really is that
> simple. Otherwise...

If I was a Russian I'd stand by Putin. What's wrong with taking back a nation that once belonged to you, one full of such rich resources?

> You and your brother are dumber than dogshit and I would take you and
> the building you were both in out. But only if you were the only two
> in it. After all, you sully the human gene pool, Kinsey.

Then persuade your silly "Western Civilization" to take military action instead of your girly little sanctions. It really is funny to watch.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:op.1jswffbbmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

>
> Yes, let's punish someone else in the hope it persuades him.
> Arsehole. Why not blow up Putin himself?
>

Your problem is that you think it is that simple. you do know where
his silos are aimed, right?

You are the asshole.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:op.1jswffbbmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

>> It was not a war, jackass. It was a criminal invasion of a
>> sovereign nation by the military arm of a leader misled nation.
>
> Why do you say "was" for something that's still in progress?
> Learn about tenses.
>

My reference was to the initial incursion. You seem to call it a war,
when that is not what happened. The Ukraine repelling of the attack
may be warlike, but the events were not that of a war, but that of a
cowardly murderous invasion, and nothing more.

So 'was' was quite correct. Learn about tenses yourself.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:op.1jswffbbmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

>> yet he gets to obliterate infrastructure and murder
>> thousands of innocents because dumbfucks like you think he was
>> right to "feel threatened"? Bullshit.
>
> All the Ukraine has to do is surrender.

Oh really? The end of millions of lives normal path for that of a
dictator murderer to decide the path of.

You really are an idiot.

> They were part of the
> USSR after all. They should give back the land they stole.

"They" stole nothing, you fucking idiot.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:op.1jswffbbmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

> which isn't a real Langeland, just a bastardisation of ours.

Now you are just tooting your retard horn. And you could not even get
that right.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:op.1jsz38m7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

>
> If I was a Russian I'd stand by Putin.

We can tell, dumbfuck.

> What's wrong with taking
> back a nation that once belonged to you, one full of such rich
> resources?

You're an abject idiot.

The word for today is sovereignty. Go look it up, immature punk.

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:20:12 +0100, <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:op.1jswffbbmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:
>
>>
>> Yes, let's punish someone else in the hope it persuades him.
>> Arsehole. Why not blow up Putin himself?
>>
>
> Your problem is that you think it is that simple. you do know where
> his silos are aimed, right?
>
> You are the asshole.

So you're scared of Putin. ROTFPMSL!

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:22:41 +0100, <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:op.1jswffbbmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:
>
>>> It was not a war, jackass. It was a criminal invasion of a
>>> sovereign nation by the military arm of a leader misled nation.
>>
>> Why do you say "was" for something that's still in progress?
>> Learn about tenses.
>>
>
> My reference was to the initial incursion. You seem to call it a war,
> when that is not what happened. The Ukraine repelling of the attack
> may be warlike, but the events were not that of a war, but that of a
> cowardly murderous invasion, and nothing more.
>
> So 'was' was quite correct. Learn about tenses yourself.

It would be a war if anyone had the guts to reply. But the entire world is too scared of one country!

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:25:47 +0100, <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:op.1jswffbbmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:
>
>>> yet he gets to obliterate infrastructure and murder
>>> thousands of innocents because dumbfucks like you think he was
>>> right to "feel threatened"? Bullshit.
>>
>> All the Ukraine has to do is surrender.
>
> Oh really? The end of millions of lives normal path for that of a
> dictator murderer to decide the path of.

no, they'd just become Russians. All the Russians I know are happy.

>> They were part of the
>> USSR after all. They should give back the land they stole.
>
> "They" stole nothing, you fucking idiot.

You do know what the USSR was don't you? Go look up an old map.

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 10:56:31 AM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

> If I was a Russian I'd stand by Putin. What's wrong with taking back a nation that once belonged to you, one full of such rich resources?

That's theft, because your ancestor once partnered with (but did NOT own) a neighbor...
The USSR, a deceased ancestor, does not confer any special rights on Putin's clique.

Now consider: what's wrong with taking back a nation (Russia) that once belonged to
the people of that nation, from a dictator who has imperial ambitions but won't serve the needs
of Russia's informed and democracy-empowered population?

The short answer, is fear of assassination by bullets or poison.

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:28:50 +0100, <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:op.1jswffbbmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:
>
>> which isn't a real Langeland, just a bastardisation of ours.
>
> Now you are just tooting your retard horn. And you could not even get
> that right.

Clearly that was a spellchecker fault. ROTFPMSL!

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:32:24 +0100, <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:op.1jsz38m7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan:
>
>>
>> If I was a Russian I'd stand by Putin.
>
> We can tell, dumbfuck.

What makes you think Putin's beliefs are dumb? And why did you interrupt before I'd finished? Are you that Aussie?

>> What's wrong with taking
>> back a nation that once belonged to you, one full of such rich
>> resources?
>
> You're an abject idiot.
>
> The word for today is sovereignty. Go look it up, immature punk.

Yip, and Putin is taking his land back.

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 12:25:57 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:25:47 +0100, <DecadentLinux...@decadence.org> wrote:

> > "They" stole nothing, you fucking idiot.

> You do know what the USSR was don't you? Go look up an old map.

My 'Atlacc Mira' pretty clearly shows Ukraine inside USSR, but not
that ownership devolves to Russia (also inside USSR).

Putin is, nominally, an elected official of Russia, not USSR.

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 20:37:18 +0100, whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 12:25:57 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:25:47 +0100, <DecadentLinux...@decadence.org> wrote:
>
>> > "They" stole nothing, you fucking idiot.
>
>> You do know what the USSR was don't you? Go look up an old map.
>
> My 'Atlacc Mira' pretty clearly shows Ukraine inside USSR, but not
> that ownership devolves to Russia (also inside USSR).
>
> Putin is, nominally, an elected official of Russia, not USSR.

Russia was 90% of the USSR, Russia should have what the USSR was. Ukraine must surrender and stop trying to join the pansy little EU.

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 20:26:13 +0100, whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 10:56:31 AM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
>> If I was a Russian I'd stand by Putin. What's wrong with taking back a nation that once belonged to you, one full of such rich resources?
>
> That's theft, because your ancestor once partnered with (but did NOT own) a neighbor...
> The USSR, a deceased ancestor, does not confer any special rights on Putin's clique.
>
> Now consider: what's wrong with taking back a nation (Russia) that once belonged to
> the people of that nation, from a dictator who has imperial ambitions but won't serve the needs
> of Russia's informed and democracy-empowered population?
>
> The short answer, is fear of assassination by bullets or poison.

Might is right. Fuck the weak.