On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire bomb my own country.
>
> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up with an accident report about an ultralight aircraft that had caught on fire. essentially because it's owner had abused the batteries.
>
> I suggested that it would make sense to dump an overheating battery pack before it caught on fire.
>
> Flyguy over-simplified this into a recommendation that the pilot dumped burning batteries.
>
> He seems to have decided that batteries can only have two states "okay" or "on fire".
>
> In reality, batteries always self-discharge to some extent, so they are always a bit warmer than ambient.
>
> This doesn't get to be a problem until the self-heating gets to a point where it starts increasing the self-discharge rate.
>
> At some point the battery can eventually go into thermal runaway, when the battery temperature starts rising rapidly and the battery pack can eventually catch on fire.
>
> If you monitor the internal temperature of the battery pack, you can recognise when this is starting to happen - long before the battery catches on fire - and dump the batteries.
>
> If you make sure that battery pack breaks up as you dump it, it won't get as hot and may never ever catch on fire.
>
> So it shouldn't look like a bunch of fire bombs before it hits the ground..
>
> If you pick up on the temperature rise early enough, the individual cells should never get hot enough to catch on fire once they have been spread out enough not to warm up their neighbors.
>
> All this is much to complicated for Flyguy to process, though I have explained it from time to time. It may be that he really is a stupid as he looks, or he may not feel the need to put in the effort required to realise that he's being an idiot.
>
> --
> SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

Hey SNIPPERMAN, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said? You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from AIRCRAFT onto very parched, record drought country that has experienced UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES.

Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, but you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I am not a certified, licensed pilot (false), which can be easily checked with the FAA (again, you refused). I further suggested that you contact YOUR OWN aviation authority, the Civil Aviation Safety Authority, CASA (https://www.casa.gov.au/). You, of course, REFUSED.

Your pursuit of IGNORANCE is unrivaled on SED (except, perhaps, by DecayedBrainMatter).

On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote:
> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org
> wrote:
>> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire bomb my
>> own country.
>>
>> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up with
>> an accident report
>
> Hey SNIPPERMAN, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said?

You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries.

> You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from AIRCRAFT
> onto very parched, record drought country that has experienced
> UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES.

We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land.

> Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, but
> you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I am not a
> certified, licensed pilot (false),

Hardware is certified, Airmen are Certificated. Drivers are licensed.

On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 10:31:28 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 3:16:19 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire bomb my own country.
> > >
> > > There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up with an accident report about an ultralight aircraft that had caught on fire. essentially because it's owner had abused the batteries.
> > >
> > > I suggested that it would make sense to dump an overheating battery pack before it caught on fire.
> > >
> > > Flyguy over-simplified this into a recommendation that the pilot dumped burning batteries.
> > >
> > > He seems to have decided that batteries can only have two states "okay" or "on fire".
> > >
> > > In reality, batteries always self-discharge to some extent, so they are always a bit warmer than ambient.
> > >
> > > This doesn't get to be a problem until the self-heating gets to a point where it starts increasing the self-discharge rate.
> > >
> > > At some point the battery can eventually go into thermal runaway, when the battery temperature starts rising rapidly and the battery pack can eventually catch on fire.
> > >
> > > If you monitor the internal temperature of the battery pack, you can recognise when this is starting to happen - long before the battery catches on fire - and dump the batteries.
> > >
> > > If you make sure that battery pack breaks up as you dump it, it won't get as hot and may never ever catch on fire.
> > >
> > > So it shouldn't look like a bunch of fire bombs before it hits the ground.
> > >
> > > If you pick up on the temperature rise early enough, the individual cells should never get hot enough to catch on fire once they have been spread out enough not to warm up their neighbors.
> > >
> > > All this is much to complicated for Flyguy to process, though I have explained it from time to time. It may be that he really is a stupid as he looks, or he may not feel the need to put in the effort required to realise that he's being an idiot.
> >
> > Hey Sloman, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said? You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from AIRCRAFT onto very parched, record drought country that has experienced UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES.
> "If you monitor the internal temperature of the battery pack, you can recognise when this is starting to happen - long before the battery catches on fire - and dump the batteries. "
> That is different from what you posted. I'll leave you to work out how.
> > Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, but you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I am not a certified, licensed pilot (false), which can be easily checked with the FAA (again, you refused).
> You are an anonymous troll. You have outed yourself as Tom Seim, but that may be an assumed identity. I didn't actually say you weren't a licensed pilot - I merely pointed out that somebody as stupid as you regularly prove yourself to be (see above) wouldn't last long if they tried to fly an aircraft.

Hey Dickhead, then I am NOT anonymous, you fucking idiot. And, YES you did say that, you liar.

> > I further suggested that you contact YOUR OWN aviation authority, the Civil Aviation Safety Authority, CASA (https://www.casa.gov.au/). You, of course, REFUSED.
> Why would I bother?

To educate your sorry ass, you fool.

> > Your pursuit of IGNORANCE is unrivaled on SED (except, perhaps, by DecayedBrainMatter).
> I certainly find a lot of ignorance here. I don't actually pursue it, but when it does get thrust in my face I do name it for what it is. Decadent Linux User Numero Uno doesn't get all that much wrong, whereas you can't even spell his name right (or mine for that matter). Like every other idiot you excuse yourself because you are making a joke, but only an idiot like you makes the same feeble joke time and time again.

The hell you don't - you go out of your way to be ignorant, like not talking to CASA, you dumb shit.

>
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org
> > wrote:
> >> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire bomb my
> >> own country.
> >>
> >> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up with
> >> an accident report
> >
> > Hey SNIPPERMAN, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said?
> You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries.
> > You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from AIRCRAFT
> > onto very parched, record drought country that has experienced
> > UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES.
> We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land.

That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND!

> > Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, but
> > you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I am not a
> > certified, licensed pilot (false),
> Hardware is certified, Airmen are Certificated. Drivers are licensed.

Sorry, but the FAA CERTIFIES pilots and LICENSES them. I do have a CERTIFICATE attesting to same.

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:40:05 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 2:01:32 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> > > On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire bomb my
> > > >> own country.
> > > >>
> > > >> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up with
> > > >> an accident report
> > > >
> > > > Hey Sloman, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said?
> > > You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries.
> He did. He also seems to think that nobody would even think about dumping the batteries until after they had caught on fire, which is remarkably dumb.
> > > > You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from AIRCRAFT
> > > > onto very parched, record drought country that has experienced
> > > > UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES.
> > >
> > > We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land.
> >
> > That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND!
> Nothing I wrote was specific to any one country. Dumping over-heating batteries before they catch on fire - ideally early enough so that they are never going to catch on fire - is always a good idea, provided that you don't actually dump them onto somebody.
> > > > Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, but
> > > > you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I am not a
> > > > certified, licensed pilot (false),
> Actually I didn't, but his reading comprehension is specialised in seeing what he wants to see.
> > > Hardware is certified, Airmen are Certificated. Drivers are licensed.
> >
> > Sorry, but the FAA CERTIFIES pilots and LICENSES them. I do have a CERTIFICATE attesting to same.
> An anonymous troll can make all kinds of claims. Perhaps the certificate has a date on it? Maybe it's even still valid,

Hey SNIPPERMAN, YOU are the troll that makes "all kinds of claims," I deal with FACTS. My certificate DOES have an issue date on it, and once it is issued it is valid unless it is revoked.

even though it clearly shouldn't be.

More lies by SNIPPERMAN as he has NOTHING on which to base this lie. What SNIPPERMAN DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than your typical private pilot, at 5,000. This is even more than commercial pilots which may list 20,000 hours or more because MOST of their "flying" is actually done by an autopilot - they are NOT flying AT ALL!

>
> Putting an idiot in control of even a light aircraft endangers all the people he might crash it onto.

Yeah, SNIPPERMAN, you should NEVER consider becoming a pilot!!!!!!

>
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney

On 3/29/22 20:01, Flyguy wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
>> On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote:
>>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7,
>>> bill....@ieee.org wrote:
>>>> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire
>>>> bomb my own country.
>>>>
>>>> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up
>>>> with an accident report
>>>
>>> Hey SNIPPERMAN, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said?
>> You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries.
>>> You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from
>>> AIRCRAFT onto very parched, record drought country that has
>>> experienced UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES.

Which is better dropped onto that parched terrain, burning batteries or
whole burning airplanes? Maybe you just want to ensure that the people
onboard have no escape?

>> We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land.
>
> That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND!

So what? Is that the accident report you offered?

>>> Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation,
>>> but you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I
>>> am not a certified, licensed pilot (false),
>> Hardware is certified, Airmen are Certificated. Drivers are
>> licensed.
>
> Sorry, but the FAA CERTIFIES pilots and LICENSES them. I do have a
> CERTIFICATE attesting to same.

References aren't so easy to find, but here are a couple:

https://www.faa.gov/uas/commercial_operators/

https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/pilot_records_database/
Who is eligible to access the PRD?
* The responsible person ...
* The authorized user ...
* The pilot — an individual certificated by the FAA at the Commercial,
Airline Transport Pilot, or Remote Pilot level

FAA web pages for the general public will sometimes use "license" to
ease-in newcomers, as here:
https://www.faa.gov/pilots/become/

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 10:34:00 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 3:57:53 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:40:05 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 2:01:32 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> > > > > On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire bomb my
> > > > > >> own country.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up with
> > > > > >> an accident report
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Sloman, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said?
> > > > > You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries.
> > > He did. He also seems to think that nobody would even think about dumping the batteries until after they had caught on fire, which is remarkably dumb.
> > > > > > You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from AIRCRAFT
> > > > > > onto very parched, record drought country that has experienced
> > > > > > UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES.
> > > > >
> > > > > We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land.
> > > >
> > > > That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND!
> > > Nothing I wrote was specific to any one country. Dumping over-heating batteries before they catch on fire - ideally early enough so that they are never going to catch on fire - is always a good idea, provided that you don't actually dump them onto somebody.
> > > > > > Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, but
> > > > > > you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I am not a
> > > > > > certified, licensed pilot (false),
> > > > > >
> > > Actually I didn't, but his reading comprehension is specialised in seeing what he wants to see.
> > >
> > > > > Hardware is certified, Airmen are Certificated. Drivers are licensed.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, but the FAA CERTIFIES pilots and LICENSES them. I do have a CERTIFICATE attesting to same.
> He's more likely to have been certified as a lunatic, but he wouldn't tell us about that.
>
> > > An anonymous troll can make all kinds of claims. Perhaps the certificate has a date on it? Maybe it's even still valid, even though it clearly shouldn't be.
> >
> > Hey SLOMAN, YOU are the troll that makes "all kinds of claims".
>
> I'm sure that it makes you happy to claim that, but it doesn't happen to be true.
> > I deal with FACTS. My certificate DOES have an issue date on it, and once it is issued it is valid unless it is revoked.
> Flyguy likes to think that he deals with "facts" but he "deals" with the ones he doesn't like by ignoring them.
>
> > More lies by Sloman as he has NOTHING on which to base this lie.
>
> Not that Flyguy can be bothered to identify which observation he doesn't like. Flyguy's idiocy gets paraded here at regular intervals, but he doesn't seem to realise quite how obvious his idiocy is.
>
> > What Sloman DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than your typical private pilot, at 5,000.
>
> You may assert this, but nobody knows whether you are telling the truth.
> > This is even more than commercial pilots which may list 20,000 hours or more because MOST of their "flying" is actually done by an autopilot - they are NOT flying AT ALL!
> If you kept flying for long enough you could clock up that many hours. If I remember rightly, even a private pilot in Australia has to clock up a minimum number of hours per year to maintain their certification.

Hey SNIPPERMAN, you just reeled off a whole SHIT LOAD of lies, but let's just deal with the last one: PROVE "even a private pilot in Australia has to clock up a minimum number of hours per year to maintain their certification.." And quote the SPECIFICATE regulation, you idiot.

> > > Putting an idiot in control of even a light aircraft endangers all the people he might crash it onto.
> >
> > Yeah, Sloman, you should NEVER consider becoming a pilot!!!!!!
>
> In your ever-so-expert and only moderately demented opinion.
>
> --
> SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 10:16:38 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> On 3/29/22 20:01, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> >> On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7,
> >>> bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> >>>> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire
> >>>> bomb my own country.
> >>>>
> >>>> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up
> >>>> with an accident report
> >>>
> >>> Hey SNIPPERMAN, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said?
> >> You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries.
> >>> You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from
> >>> AIRCRAFT onto very parched, record drought country that has
> >>> experienced UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES.
> Which is better dropped onto that parched terrain, burning batteries or
> whole burning airplanes? Maybe you just want to ensure that the people
> onboard have no escape?
> >> We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land.
> >
> > That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND!
> So what? Is that the accident report you offered?

SO WHAT??? You didn't even get the right FUCKING COUNTRY, you FLAMING ASSHOLE!!!!!!

On 3/30/22 22:43, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

> Flyguy of course thinks that the batteries have to be on fire before
> anybody would dump them. That's a rather more relevant error, but
> not one that he's gong to recognise.

That isn't what I get out of it. He recognizes that they shouldn't be
dumped if they *are* on fire. The airplane must remain flying until
the fire goes out.

On 3/29/22 22:33, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>> What Sloman DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than
>> your typical private pilot, at 5,000.
>
> You may assert this, but nobody knows whether you are telling the
> truth.

It's bullshit. He will include 4,900 hours of remedial training with a
flight instructor, backseat observer, simulator time, lots of other stuff.

On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:16:02 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 10:34:00 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 3:57:53 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:40:05 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 2:01:32 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> > > > > > > On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire bomb my
> > > > > > > >> own country.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up with
> > > > > > > >> an accident report
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hey SNIPPERMAN, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said?
> > > > >> >
> > > > > > > You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries.
> > > > >
> > > > > He did. He also seems to think that nobody would even think about dumping the batteries until after they had caught on fire, which is remarkably dumb.
> > >
> > > > > > > > You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from AIRCRAFT onto very parched, record drought country that has experienced UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND!
> > > > >
> > > > > Nothing I wrote was specific to any one country. Dumping over-heating batteries before they catch on fire - ideally early enough so that they are never going to catch on fire - is always a good idea, provided that you don't actually dump them onto somebody.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, but you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I am not a certified, licensed pilot (false),
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > Actually I didn't, but his reading comprehension is specialised in seeing what he wants to see.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Hardware is certified, Airmen are Certificated. Drivers are licensed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry, but the FAA CERTIFIES pilots and LICENSES them. I do have a CERTIFICATE attesting to same.
> > >
> > > He's more likely to have been certified as a lunatic, but he wouldn't tell us about that.
> > >
> > > > > An anonymous troll can make all kinds of claims. Perhaps the certificate has a date on it? Maybe it's even still valid, even though it clearly shouldn't be.
> > > >
> > > > Hey SLOMAN, YOU are the troll that makes "all kinds of claims".
> > >
> > > I'm sure that it makes you happy to claim that, but it doesn't happen to be true.
> > >
> > > > I deal with FACTS. My certificate DOES have an issue date on it, and once it is issued it is valid unless it is revoked.
> > >
> > > Flyguy likes to think that he deals with "facts" but he "deals" with the ones he doesn't like by ignoring them.
> > >
> > > > More lies by SNIPPERMAN as he has NOTHING on which to base this lie..
> > >
> > > Not that Flyguy can be bothered to identify which observation he doesn't like. Flyguy's idiocy gets paraded here at regular intervals, but he doesn't seem to realise quite how obvious his idiocy is.
> > >
> > > > What SNIPPERMAN DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than your typical private pilot, at 5,000.
> > >
> > > You may assert this, but nobody knows whether you are telling the truth.
> > >
> > > > This is even more than commercial pilots which may list 20,000 hours or more because MOST of their "flying" is actually done by an autopilot - they are NOT flying AT ALL!
> > >
> > > If you kept flying for long enough you could clock up that many hours.. If I remember rightly, even a private pilot in Australia has to clock up a minimum number of hours per year to maintain their certification.
> > >
> > Hey Sloman, you just reeled off a whole SHIT LOAD of lies, but let's just deal with the last one: PROVE "even a private pilot in Australia has to clock up a minimum number of hours per year to maintain their certification.." And quote the SPECIFICATE regulation, you idiot.
>
> He probably meant the specific regulation, but why would I bother?

Because you don't have any FUCKING IDEA what you are talking about, that's why - and you just ADMITTED it, you stupid fool. In fact, there IS NO requirement to fly a minimum number hours, you idiot, and MANY don't fly any at all. What is required of OZ private pilots (as opposed to commercial and airline pilots) is a biannual proficiency check.

When I was an undergraduate, one of my fellow students was studying engineering as part of a plan to be come a commercial pilot, and building up flying hours in his spare time. I'm just reporting what I remember of our conversations on the subject. He also kept a collection of newspaper clippings about private pilots who had ended up dead after flight accidents. There were quite a few of them.

There are even MORE that kill themselves driving cars.

That was sixty years ago. Private pilots do seem to keep on crashing.

As do commercial pilots, airline pilots and car drivers - each activity has inherent risks.

His sister was an air hostess, and she once let me look into the cockpit of the plane that was flying me home to Tasmania on an end-of-term break. She seemed to think that I'd want to, and I was polite enough to act as if I did.

You wouldn't know what you were looking at, so it would have been a waste of your time, all though you waste it about 20 hours a day with your stupid replies to SED.

> > > > > Putting an idiot in control of even a light aircraft endangers all the people he might crash it onto.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, SNIPPERMAN, you should NEVER consider becoming a pilot!!!!!!
> > >
> > > In your ever-so-expert and only moderately demented opinion.
>
> --
> SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 7:08:02 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> On 3/30/22 22:43, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>
> > Flyguy of course thinks that the batteries have to be on fire before
> > anybody would dump them. That's a rather more relevant error, but
> > not one that he's gong to recognise.

No, SNIPPERMAN, YOU think that - I don't think they are safe enough to even consider their use in cars, let alone aircraft.

> That isn't what I get out of it. He recognizes that they shouldn't be
> dumped if they *are* on fire. The airplane must remain flying until
> the fire goes out.

Which won't be for LONG!

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 7:37:50 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> On 3/29/22 22:33, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> >> What Sloman DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than
> >> your typical private pilot, at 5,000.
> >
> > You may assert this, but nobody knows whether you are telling the
> > truth.
> It's bullshit. He will include 4,900 hours of remedial training with a
> flight instructor, backseat observer, simulator time, lots of other stuff.

You can - and will - think what you want - I KNOW the truth! I have also won our international soaring contest on multiple days that involves thousands of competitors.

On 3/31/22 17:25, Flyguy wrote:
> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 7:37:50 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
>> On 3/29/22 22:33, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>>>> What Sloman DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than
>>>> your typical private pilot, at 5,000.
>>>
>>> You may assert this, but nobody knows whether you are telling the
>>> truth.
>> It's bullshit. He will include 4,900 hours of remedial training with a
>> flight instructor, backseat observer, simulator time, lots of other stuff.
>
> You can - and will - think what you want - I KNOW the truth! I have also won our international soaring contest on multiple days that involves thousands of competitors.

I got a flight on the Goodyear Blimp.

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 6:33:52 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:20:31 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:16:02 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 10:34:00 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 3:57:53 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:40:05 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 2:01:32 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill.....@ieee.org
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> <snip>
> > > He probably meant the specific regulation, but why would I bother?
> > Because you don't have any FUCKING IDEA what you are talking about, that's why - and you just ADMITTED it, you stupid fool. In fact, there IS NO requirement to fly a minimum number hours, you idiot, and MANY don't fly any at all. What is required of OZ private pilots (as opposed to commercial and airline pilots) is a biannual proficiency check.
> And I'm supposed to be interested enough in the subject to care?
> > When I was an undergraduate, one of my fellow students was studying engineering as part of a plan to be come a commercial pilot, and building up flying hours in his spare time. I'm just reporting what I remember of our conversations on the subject. He also kept a collection of newspaper clippings about private pilots who had ended up dead after flight accidents. There were quite a few of them.
>
> > There are even MORE that kill themselves driving cars.
> So the average private pilot is more likely to die in a car crash than a plane crash? It's possible - people spend a lot more time driving that flying - but since you don't point to any statistics on the subject it is likely that that you are ventilating one more of your idiot delusions.

Your delusions are rampant on SED, particularly here.

> > That was sixty years ago. Private pilots do seem to keep on crashing.
> >
> > As do commercial pilots, airline pilots and car drivers - each activity has inherent risks.
> Private pilots do seem to crash more often, but without detailed statistics, it's not worth thinking about.
> > His sister was an air hostess, and she once let me look into the cockpit of the plane that was flying me home to Tasmania on an end-of-term break. She seemed to think that I'd want to, and I was polite enough to act as if I did.
>
> > You wouldn't know what you were looking at,
> Obviously not. I couldn't tell an air speed indication from an artificial horizon from any of the engine condition dials from the cockpit door. It did look a bit like the control panel for the counter-current continuous digestor at the paper mill where my father was research manager at the time (where he'd introduced computer control, but all the sensed parameters were still shown on dials, and the occasional chart recorder).

You couldn't tell the difference between a control yoke and a flap handle, but you THINK you are an aviation expert - GO FIGURE!

> > so it would have been a waste of your time,
> It was, which is why I had to feign interest out of politeness.

The ONLY thing you "feign" is a glimmer of intelligence.

> > all though you waste it about 20 hours a day with your stupid replies to SED.
> Replies that you have decided must be stupid, because you can't process them. They don't take more than about an hour a day. I can probably type faster than you can, which does give me a flying start.

They are stupid because they ARE STUPID!

> > > > > > > Putting an idiot in control of even a light aircraft endangers all the people he might crash it onto.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, SNIPPERMAN, you should NEVER consider becoming a pilot!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > In your ever-so-expert and only moderately demented opinion.
>
> --
> SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> On 3/31/22 17:25, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 7:37:50 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> >> On 3/29/22 22:33, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> >>>> What Sloman DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than
> >>>> your typical private pilot, at 5,000.
> >>>
> >>> You may assert this, but nobody knows whether you are telling the
> >>> truth.
> >> It's bullshit. He will include 4,900 hours of remedial training with a
> >> flight instructor, backseat observer, simulator time, lots of other stuff.
> >
> > You can - and will - think what you want - I KNOW the truth! I have also won our international soaring contest on multiple days that involves thousands of competitors.
> I got a flight on the Goodyear Blimp.

WOW! Am I impressed OR WHAT (it will be the or what)?

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 6:57:54 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:25:29 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 7:37:50 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> > > On 3/29/22 22:33, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> > > >> What Sloman DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than your typical private pilot, at 5,000.
> > > >
> > > > You may assert this, but nobody knows whether you are telling the truth.
> > > It's bullshit. He will include 4,900 hours of remedial training with a flight instructor, backseat observer, simulator time, lots of other stuff..
> >
> > You can - and will - think what you want - I KNOW the truth! I have also won our international soaring contest on multiple days that involves thousands of competitors.
> That's gliding. Sailplanes may be light aircraft, but glider pilots are a different bred of cat. They also die. One of my wife's graduate students gave up on her Ph.D. after her boyfriend got himself killed in just such a competition.
>
> If you had actually won such a competition you'd be able to post a link the the results of that competition, which you haven't.
>
> The "truth" you know is what you want to know, which doesn't seem to have all that much to do with the real world.
>
> --
> SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

Hey SNIPPERMAN, I think you mean BREED. I am a FAR BETTER pilot than that person's boyfriend, obviously, because I haven't killed myself in 5,000 hours and decades of flying. Just a momentary lapse of skill or attention can be disastrous, which is why you should NEVER consider being a pilot - you have COPIOUS instances of lapses.

On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 1:09:28 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 6:04:29 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 6:33:52 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:20:31 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:16:02 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 10:34:00 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 3:57:53 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:40:05 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 2:01:32 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > > > There are even MORE that kill themselves driving cars.
> >
> > > So the average private pilot is more likely to die in a car crash than a plane crash? It's possible - people spend a lot more time driving that flying - but since you don't point to any statistics on the subject it is likely that that you are ventilating one more of your idiot delusions.
> >
> > Your delusions are rampant on SED, particularly here.
> You do like to claim that they are delusions, but the process of demonstrating that I've got anythin g wrong is clear;y beyond you.
> > > > That was sixty years ago. Private pilots do seem to keep on crashing.
> > > >
> > > > As do commercial pilots, airline pilots and car drivers - each activity has inherent risks.
> > >
> > > Private pilots do seem to crash more often, but without detailed statistics, it's not worth thinking about.
> > >
> > > > His sister was an air hostess, and she once let me look into the cockpit of the plane that was flying me home to Tasmania on an end-of-term break. She seemed to think that I'd want to, and I was polite enough to act as if I did.
> > >
> > > > You wouldn't know what you were looking at, so it would have been a waste of your time,
> > >
> > > Obviously not. I couldn't tell an air speed indication from an artificial horizon from any of the engine condition dials from the cockpit door. It did look a bit like the control panel for the counter-current continuous digestor at the paper mill where my father was research manager at the time (where he'd introduced computer control, but all the sensed parameters were still shown on dials, and the occasional chart recorder).
> >
> > You couldn't tell the difference between a control yoke and a flap handle, but you THINK you are an aviation expert - GO FIGURE!
> That's a bit easier that identifying dials from the cockpit door. Flap handles work in one dimension, and control yokes can rotate as well as moving up and down.You don't have to be an aviation expert (which I've never claimed to be) to be aware of that.

The original comment stands: you don't know SHIT about aircraft.

> > > >> > It was, which is why I had to feign interest out of politeness.
> >
> > The ONLY thing you "feign" is a glimmer of intelligence. although you waste it about 20 hours a day with your stupid replies to SED.
>
> I don't bring the full power of my intellect to bear in this forum - it isn't quite the right place to do that.

LOL! I sure would HOPE NOT, because what you display here is at the idiot level.

> > > Replies that you have decided must be stupid, because you can't process them. They don't take more than about an hour a day. I can probably type faster than you can, which does give me a flying start.
>
> > They are stupid because they ARE STUPID!
> They are stupid because Flyguy thinks that they are stupid? Even Flyguy should be able to work out the problem with that, but he is remarkably stupid.

They are stupid on their OWN MERIT, fool (i.e. nuking your own damn country)!

> > > > > > > > > Putting an idiot in control of even a light aircraft endangers all the people he might crash it onto.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah, SNIPPERMAN, you should NEVER consider becoming a pilot!!!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In your ever-so-expert and only moderately demented opinion.
> <snipped Flyguy's idea of a rational argument, which did contain a lot of repetition, and no rational content at all.>

SNIPPERMAN at work!

>
> --
> SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 2:51:11 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 6:11:55 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 6:57:54 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:25:29 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 7:37:50 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> > > > > On 3/29/22 22:33, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> > > > > >> What Sloman DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than your typical private pilot, at 5,000.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You may assert this, but nobody knows whether you are telling the truth.
> > > > > It's bullshit. He will include 4,900 hours of remedial training with a flight instructor, backseat observer, simulator time, lots of other stuff.
> > > >
> > > > You can - and will - think what you want - I KNOW the truth! I have also won our international soaring contest on multiple days that involves thousands of competitors.
> > > That's gliding. Sailplanes may be light aircraft, but glider pilots are a different breed of cat. They also die. One of my wife's graduate students gave up on her Ph.D. after her boyfriend got himself killed in just such a competition.
> > >
> > > If you had actually won such a competition you'd be able to post a link the the results of that competition, which you haven't.
> > >
> > > The "truth" you know is what you want to know, which doesn't seem to have all that much to do with the real world.
> >
> >I am a FAR BETTER pilot than that person's boyfriend, obviously, because I haven't killed myself in 5,000 hours and decades of flying.
> You claim to be a far better pilot because you claim to have survived 5,000 hours of your own piloting, but you are an anonymous troll and have never posted a shred of evidence to support your claims. Even if you had survived 5000 hours of your own piloting (which isn't all that plausible) you could just be lucky, and that person's boyfriend could have been an even better pilot, but rather less lucky.

You LIE, SNIPPERMAN, because I AM NOT "anonymous" as you claim. Hey, fool, prove me wrong - IF YOU CAN (you won't because it IS TRUE!)!

> > Just a momentary lapse of skill or attention can be disastrous, which is why you should NEVER consider being a pilot - you have COPIOUS instances of lapses.
> But not sustained lapses. Even in an aircraft, you mostly have a few seconds in which to correct an error of action. There are accident reports about cases where the lethal error happened at exactly the wrong moment, but there aren't many of them.

WTF are you claiming - that you are even MORE INCOMPETENT than what I stated, SNIPPERMAN?

>
> --
> Bil Sloman, Sydney

BTW, you are such an IDIOT that you can't even SPELL YOUR OWN NAME!!!!!!!

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 10:39:18 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 1:55:09 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 2:51:11 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 6:11:55 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 6:57:54 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:25:29 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 7:37:50 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> > > > > > > On 3/29/22 22:33, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> > > > > > > >> What Sloman DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than your typical private pilot, at 5,000.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You may assert this, but nobody knows whether you are telling the truth.
> > > > > > > It's bullshit. He will include 4,900 hours of remedial training with a flight instructor, backseat observer, simulator time, lots of other stuff.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can - and will - think what you want - I KNOW the truth! I have also won our international soaring contest on multiple days that involves thousands of competitors.
> > > > > That's gliding. Sailplanes may be light aircraft, but glider pilots are a different breed of cat. They also die. One of my wife's graduate students gave up on her Ph.D. after her boyfriend got himself killed in just such a competition.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you had actually won such a competition you'd be able to post a link the the results of that competition, which you haven't.
> > > > >
> > > > > The "truth" you know is what you want to know, which doesn't seem to have all that much to do with the real world.
> > > >
> > > >I am a FAR BETTER pilot than that person's boyfriend, obviously, because I haven't killed myself in 5,000 hours and decades of flying.
> >
> > > You claim to be a far better pilot because you claim to have survived 5,000 hours of your own piloting, but you are an anonymous troll and have never posted a shred of evidence to support your claims. Even if you had survived 5000 hours of your own piloting (which isn't all that plausible) you could just be lucky, and that person's boyfriend could have been an even better pilot, but rather less lucky.
> >
> > You LIE, SNIPPERMAN, because I AM NOT "anonymous" as you claim. Hey, fool, prove me wrong - IF YOU CAN (you won't because it IS TRUE!)!
>
> Searching on Tom Seim might get me relevant data. but why should I go to the trouble? If you want us to take you seriously, post your own links.
> At the moment you sound like a windbag. More hot-air ballooning than any other kind of flight of fancy.
> > > > Just a momentary lapse of skill or attention can be disastrous, which is why you should NEVER consider being a pilot - you have COPIOUS instances of lapses.
> > >
> > > But not sustained lapses. Even in an aircraft, you mostly have a few seconds in which to correct an error of action. There are accident reports about cases where the lethal error happened at exactly the wrong moment, but there aren't many of them.
> >
> > WTF are you claiming - that you are even MORE INCOMPETENT than what I stated, SNIPPERMAN?
>
> No. I admit to making typos - like everybody else and I don't catch all of them - like everybody else. That doesn't make me incompetent, no matter your idiot delusions might suggest. A lot of my professional life was spent checking for and correcting my own and other peoples lapses of attention. We didn't waste time on being censorious about it - it would have been a waste of time, as well as upsetting everybody involved
>
> --
> SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

Hey SNIPPERMAN, you don't do what proves you to be a LIAR, obviously. Everyone on SED KNOWS you are a LIAR, even DecayedBrainMatter.