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Is honey the solution?
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm

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 by: Ricky - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 04:41 UTC

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 12:20:15 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> Is honey the solution?
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm

"They created the memristors by processing honey into a solid form and sandwiching it between two metal electrodes, making a structure similar to a human synapse."

This was written by a "writer" rather than a researcher. The idea that anything with electrodes is "similar to a human synapse" is a bit of a stretch.. Synapses don't even have electrodes. They have a synaptic gap which is just a space which neurotransmitters diffuse across.

It's also interesting they make a big deal about using honey as the memristor active material, when it is almost certainly the sugar in honey that results in the desired operation. They did not indicate any particular property or component of honey that makes it better than just sugar.

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 by: Sjouke Burry - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 05:18 UTC

On 06.04.22 6:41, Ricky wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 12:20:15 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> Is honey the solution?
>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm
>
> "They created the memristors by processing honey into a solid form and sandwiching it between two metal electrodes, making a structure similar to a human synapse."
>
> This was written by a "writer" rather than a researcher. The idea that anything with electrodes is "similar to a human synapse" is a bit of a stretch. Synapses don't even have electrodes. They have a synaptic gap which is just a space which neurotransmitters diffuse across.
>
> It's also interesting they make a big deal about using honey as the memristor active material, when it is almost certainly the sugar in honey that results in the desired operation. They did not indicate any particular property or component of honey that makes it better than just sugar.
>
I like Sc.dayly, but the number of brilliant inventions/day

makes me suspicious about quite a few of them.

But I keep reading those articles (RSS feed) every day.

And enjoy them.

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 by: Martin Brown - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 08:54 UTC

On 06/04/2022 05:19, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> Is honey the solution?
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm

They seem about 4 days late with their April fools joke!
OTOH Google searches suggest they might be serious.

Polariton based QM memristors are one of the front runners for a viable
memristor.

https://journals.aps.org/prapplied/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevApplied.17.024056

And a lot of false dawns too eg. :

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5042281

Reminds me of a book that a friend won in a raffle entitled:
"The Magic of Honey" by Barbara Cartland

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Honey-Barbara-Cartland/dp/0552103365

Every bit as bad as her trashy novels.

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 14:35 UTC

On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 04:19:25 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Is honey the solution?
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm

Memristors were the memory of the future... many times. I think HP
announced a soon-to-be-shipped product once.

The Ovonics thing came and went for decades.

Memristors started as an intellectual conceit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memristor

But maybe moving stuff is not a good way to make RAM. Who was making
that fuzzy nanotube ram?

HP also developed "modulation domain" instruments, a similar sort of
abstraction to memristors.

We actually do something like mod domain analysis now and then, to
track down sources of jitter. Plot time vs time, and the FFT of that.

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 14:39 UTC

On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 09:54:11 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

>On 06/04/2022 05:19, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> Is honey the solution?
>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm
>
>They seem about 4 days late with their April fools joke!
>OTOH Google searches suggest they might be serious.
>
>Polariton based QM memristors are one of the front runners for a viable
>memristor.
>
>https://journals.aps.org/prapplied/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevApplied.17.024056
>
>And a lot of false dawns too eg. :
>
>https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5042281
>
>Reminds me of a book that a friend won in a raffle entitled:
>"The Magic of Honey" by Barbara Cartland
>
>https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Honey-Barbara-Cartland/dp/0552103365
>
>Every bit as bad as her trashy novels.

It's good in tea, and apparently a decent treatment for burns and bed
sores. Good on English muffins.

Do they have English Muffins in England? Sort of like Canadian Bacon
in Canada. And French Fries.

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 by: Ricky - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 16:26 UTC

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 09:54:11 +0100, Martin Brown
> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >On 06/04/2022 05:19, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >> Is honey the solution?
> >> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm
> >
> >They seem about 4 days late with their April fools joke!
> >OTOH Google searches suggest they might be serious.
> >
> >Polariton based QM memristors are one of the front runners for a viable
> >memristor.
> >
> >https://journals.aps.org/prapplied/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevApplied.17.024056
> >
> >And a lot of false dawns too eg. :
> >
> >https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5042281
> >
> >Reminds me of a book that a friend won in a raffle entitled:
> >"The Magic of Honey" by Barbara Cartland
> >
> >https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Honey-Barbara-Cartland/dp/0552103365
> >
> >Every bit as bad as her trashy novels.
> It's good in tea, and apparently a decent treatment for burns and bed
> sores. Good on English muffins.
>
> Do they have English Muffins in England? Sort of like Canadian Bacon
> in Canada. And French Fries.

Half of Larkin's posts sound like they were written by the village idiot. Discussing Honey used in memristors and this guy starts talking about English Muffins. BTW, that term has a very different meaning in England.

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 by: Martin Brown - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 16:48 UTC

On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,
> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 09:54:11 +0100, Martin Brown
>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/04/2022 05:19, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> Is honey the solution?
>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm
>>>
>>> They seem about 4 days late with their April fools joke! OTOH
>>> Google searches suggest they might be serious.
>>>
>>> Polariton based QM memristors are one of the front runners for a
>>> viable memristor.
>>>
>>> https://journals.aps.org/prapplied/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevApplied.17.024056
>>>
>>>
>>>
And a lot of false dawns too eg. :
>>>
>>> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5042281
>>>
>>> Reminds me of a book that a friend won in a raffle entitled: "The
>>> Magic of Honey" by Barbara Cartland
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Honey-Barbara-Cartland/dp/0552103365
>>>
>>>
>>>
Every bit as bad as her trashy novels.
>> It's good in tea, and apparently a decent treatment for burns and
>> bed sores. Good on English muffins.

Surprisingly it is extremely good for certain skin damage as the very
high sugar content osmatic pressure acts as a non-specific sterilising
agent against some otherwise almost intractable wound infections.

ISTR they concentrate and purify it for this particular use. There are
traces of natural bee related antifungals and antibiotics in it too.

>> Do they have English Muffins in England? Sort of like Canadian
>> Bacon in Canada. And French Fries.

"French" fries came from a Francophone region of *Belgium*.
>
> Half of Larkin's posts sound like they were written by the village
> idiot. Discussing Honey used in memristors and this guy starts
> talking about English Muffins. BTW, that term has a very different
> meaning in England.

We don't call them "English" muffins but they are a breakfast staple.
particulalry in the colder months.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/english_muffins_56640

As are the much more suggestive sounding "crumpets" which are a not
dissimilar recipe but only cooked on one side and rather holey.

https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-english-crumpets/

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

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 by: John Larkin - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:41 UTC

On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:48:53 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

>On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,
>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 09:54:11 +0100, Martin Brown
>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/04/2022 05:19, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>> Is honey the solution?
>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm
>>>>
>>>> They seem about 4 days late with their April fools joke! OTOH
>>>> Google searches suggest they might be serious.
>>>>
>>>> Polariton based QM memristors are one of the front runners for a
>>>> viable memristor.
>>>>
>>>> https://journals.aps.org/prapplied/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevApplied.17.024056
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>And a lot of false dawns too eg. :
>>>>
>>>> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5042281
>>>>
>>>> Reminds me of a book that a friend won in a raffle entitled: "The
>>>> Magic of Honey" by Barbara Cartland
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Honey-Barbara-Cartland/dp/0552103365
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>Every bit as bad as her trashy novels.
>>> It's good in tea, and apparently a decent treatment for burns and
>>> bed sores. Good on English muffins.
>
>Surprisingly it is extremely good for certain skin damage as the very
>high sugar content osmatic pressure acts as a non-specific sterilising
>agent against some otherwise almost intractable wound infections.
>
>ISTR they concentrate and purify it for this particular use. There are
>traces of natural bee related antifungals and antibiotics in it too.
>
>>> Do they have English Muffins in England? Sort of like Canadian
>>> Bacon in Canada. And French Fries.
>
>"French" fries came from a Francophone region of *Belgium*.
>>
>> Half of Larkin's posts sound like they were written by the village
>> idiot. Discussing Honey used in memristors and this guy starts
>> talking about English Muffins. BTW, that term has a very different
>> meaning in England.
>
>We don't call them "English" muffins but they are a breakfast staple.
>particulalry in the colder months.
>
>https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/english_muffins_56640

Thomas' is the iconic brand here, widely available. "Fork split."

One of our favorites is fried shrimp on a English muffin. With kettle
chips or tater tots.

>
>As are the much more suggestive sounding "crumpets" which are a not
>dissimilar recipe but only cooked on one side and rather holey.
>
>https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-english-crumpets/

We love crumpets but they are hard to find here. Ikedas in Auburn has
them so we stock up when we pass through there.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

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 by: Tom Gardner - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:24 UTC

On 06/04/22 18:41, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:48:53 +0100, Martin Brown
> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,
>>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 09:54:11 +0100, Martin Brown
>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 06/04/2022 05:19, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>> Is honey the solution?
>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> They seem about 4 days late with their April fools joke! OTOH
>>>>> Google searches suggest they might be serious.
>>>>>
>>>>> Polariton based QM memristors are one of the front runners for a
>>>>> viable memristor.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://journals.aps.org/prapplied/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevApplied.17.024056
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> And a lot of false dawns too eg. :
>>>>>
>>>>> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5042281
>>>>>
>>>>> Reminds me of a book that a friend won in a raffle entitled: "The
>>>>> Magic of Honey" by Barbara Cartland
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Honey-Barbara-Cartland/dp/0552103365
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> Every bit as bad as her trashy novels.
>>>> It's good in tea, and apparently a decent treatment for burns and
>>>> bed sores. Good on English muffins.
>>
>> Surprisingly it is extremely good for certain skin damage as the very
>> high sugar content osmatic pressure acts as a non-specific sterilising
>> agent against some otherwise almost intractable wound infections.
>>
>> ISTR they concentrate and purify it for this particular use. There are
>> traces of natural bee related antifungals and antibiotics in it too.
>>
>>>> Do they have English Muffins in England? Sort of like Canadian
>>>> Bacon in Canada. And French Fries.
>>
>> "French" fries came from a Francophone region of *Belgium*.
>>>
>>> Half of Larkin's posts sound like they were written by the village
>>> idiot. Discussing Honey used in memristors and this guy starts
>>> talking about English Muffins. BTW, that term has a very different
>>> meaning in England.
>>
>> We don't call them "English" muffins but they are a breakfast staple.
>> particulalry in the colder months.
>>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/english_muffins_56640
>
> Thomas' is the iconic brand here, widely available. "Fork split."
>
> One of our favorites is fried shrimp on a English muffin. With kettle
> chips or tater tots.

In the UK, shrimps are ~6cm long, and the edible bit fits on the last joint of
your thumb. Prawns are ~9cm. Both are delicious
https://britishseafishing.co.uk/brown-shrimp/
https://britishseafishing.co.uk/prawn-and-shrimp-species/

Larger still are Dublin bay prawns (scampi, langoustine).

The enormous tropical prawns aren't worth eating, IMHO.

>> As are the much more suggestive sounding "crumpets" which are a not
>> dissimilar recipe but only cooked on one side and rather holey.
>>
>> https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-english-crumpets/
>
> We love crumpets but they are hard to find here. Ikedas in Auburn has
> them so we stock up when we pass through there.

Potted Morecombe bay shrimps on crumpets. Delicious, but expensive.

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 by: John Larkin - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:40 UTC

On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 19:24:20 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>On 06/04/22 18:41, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:48:53 +0100, Martin Brown
>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,
>>>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 09:54:11 +0100, Martin Brown
>>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/04/2022 05:19, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>>> Is honey the solution?
>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They seem about 4 days late with their April fools joke! OTOH
>>>>>> Google searches suggest they might be serious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Polariton based QM memristors are one of the front runners for a
>>>>>> viable memristor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://journals.aps.org/prapplied/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevApplied.17.024056
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> And a lot of false dawns too eg. :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5042281
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reminds me of a book that a friend won in a raffle entitled: "The
>>>>>> Magic of Honey" by Barbara Cartland
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Honey-Barbara-Cartland/dp/0552103365
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> Every bit as bad as her trashy novels.
>>>>> It's good in tea, and apparently a decent treatment for burns and
>>>>> bed sores. Good on English muffins.
>>>
>>> Surprisingly it is extremely good for certain skin damage as the very
>>> high sugar content osmatic pressure acts as a non-specific sterilising
>>> agent against some otherwise almost intractable wound infections.
>>>
>>> ISTR they concentrate and purify it for this particular use. There are
>>> traces of natural bee related antifungals and antibiotics in it too.
>>>
>>>>> Do they have English Muffins in England? Sort of like Canadian
>>>>> Bacon in Canada. And French Fries.
>>>
>>> "French" fries came from a Francophone region of *Belgium*.
>>>>
>>>> Half of Larkin's posts sound like they were written by the village
>>>> idiot. Discussing Honey used in memristors and this guy starts
>>>> talking about English Muffins. BTW, that term has a very different
>>>> meaning in England.
>>>
>>> We don't call them "English" muffins but they are a breakfast staple.
>>> particulalry in the colder months.
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/english_muffins_56640
>>
>> Thomas' is the iconic brand here, widely available. "Fork split."
>>
>> One of our favorites is fried shrimp on a English muffin. With kettle
>> chips or tater tots.
>
>In the UK, shrimps are ~6cm long, and the edible bit fits on the last joint of
>your thumb. Prawns are ~9cm. Both are delicious
>https://britishseafishing.co.uk/brown-shrimp/
>https://britishseafishing.co.uk/prawn-and-shrimp-species/

The only difference between shrimps and prawns is the 1:3 price ratio.

The $7 a pound shrimps at Safeway are actually pretty good. Probably
from Viet Nam or something.

>
>Larger still are Dublin bay prawns (scampi, langoustine).
>
>The enormous tropical prawns aren't worth eating, IMHO.

The bigger they are, the easier to peel and the less flavor.

The ones from the Gulf of Mexico are best. They snack on oil spills
and Mississippi river silt.

The key to boiled shrimps is Zatarains.

https://www.amazon.com/ZATARAINS-Shrimp-Liquid-Concentrated-8-Ounce/dp/B088F1XSNX/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3BBG4026BBKKT&keywords=zatarains+crab+boil&qid=1649270102&sprefix=zata%2Caps%2C264&sr=8-5

I actually knew old man Zatarain when I was a kid. Crazy old coot by
then.

>
>
>>> As are the much more suggestive sounding "crumpets" which are a not
>>> dissimilar recipe but only cooked on one side and rather holey.
>>>
>>> https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-english-crumpets/
>>
>> We love crumpets but they are hard to find here. Ikedas in Auburn has
>> them so we stock up when we pass through there.
>
>Potted Morecombe bay shrimps on crumpets. Delicious, but expensive.

Shrimp Remoulade is good too. Boiled shrimp and sauce wrapped in a
lettuce leaf.

--

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but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

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On 7/4/22 3:41 am, John Larkin wrote:
> We love crumpets but they are hard to find here. Ikedas in Auburn has
> them so we stock up when we pass through there.

They're quite easy to make. I made some that filled a 20cm frypan. They
don't go in the toaster but under the griller, but there's breakfast in
a single crumpet.

CH

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On 06/04/22 19:40, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 19:24:20 +0100, Tom Gardner
> <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 06/04/22 18:41, John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:48:53 +0100, Martin Brown
>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,
>>>>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 09:54:11 +0100, Martin Brown
>>>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06/04/2022 05:19, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>>>> Is honey the solution?
>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They seem about 4 days late with their April fools joke! OTOH
>>>>>>> Google searches suggest they might be serious.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Polariton based QM memristors are one of the front runners for a
>>>>>>> viable memristor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://journals.aps.org/prapplied/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevApplied.17.024056
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> And a lot of false dawns too eg. :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5042281
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reminds me of a book that a friend won in a raffle entitled: "The
>>>>>>> Magic of Honey" by Barbara Cartland
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Honey-Barbara-Cartland/dp/0552103365
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> Every bit as bad as her trashy novels.
>>>>>> It's good in tea, and apparently a decent treatment for burns and
>>>>>> bed sores. Good on English muffins.
>>>>
>>>> Surprisingly it is extremely good for certain skin damage as the very
>>>> high sugar content osmatic pressure acts as a non-specific sterilising
>>>> agent against some otherwise almost intractable wound infections.
>>>>
>>>> ISTR they concentrate and purify it for this particular use. There are
>>>> traces of natural bee related antifungals and antibiotics in it too.
>>>>
>>>>>> Do they have English Muffins in England? Sort of like Canadian
>>>>>> Bacon in Canada. And French Fries.
>>>>
>>>> "French" fries came from a Francophone region of *Belgium*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Half of Larkin's posts sound like they were written by the village
>>>>> idiot. Discussing Honey used in memristors and this guy starts
>>>>> talking about English Muffins. BTW, that term has a very different
>>>>> meaning in England.
>>>>
>>>> We don't call them "English" muffins but they are a breakfast staple.
>>>> particulalry in the colder months.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/english_muffins_56640
>>>
>>> Thomas' is the iconic brand here, widely available. "Fork split."
>>>
>>> One of our favorites is fried shrimp on a English muffin. With kettle
>>> chips or tater tots.
>>
>> In the UK, shrimps are ~6cm long, and the edible bit fits on the last joint of
>> your thumb. Prawns are ~9cm. Both are delicious
>> https://britishseafishing.co.uk/brown-shrimp/
>> https://britishseafishing.co.uk/prawn-and-shrimp-species/
>
> The only difference between shrimps and prawns is the 1:3 price ratio.
>
> The $7 a pound shrimps at Safeway are actually pretty good. Probably
> from Viet Nam or something.
>
>>
>> Larger still are Dublin bay prawns (scampi, langoustine).
>>
>> The enormous tropical prawns aren't worth eating, IMHO.
>
> The bigger they are, the easier to peel and the less flavor.

That /is/ a pain, but is an advantage if you are on a diet.

Bigger -> less flavour seems to be valid for many things,
e.g. strawberries. It is almost as if there are the same
number of flavour molecules, just more or less diluted.

> The ones from the Gulf of Mexico are best. They snack on oil spills
> and Mississippi river silt.
>
> The key to boiled shrimps is Zatarains.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/ZATARAINS-Shrimp-Liquid-Concentrated-8-Ounce/dp/B088F1XSNX/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3BBG4026BBKKT&keywords=zatarains+crab+boil&qid=1649270102&sprefix=zata%2Caps%2C264&sr=8-5
>
> I actually knew old man Zatarain when I was a kid. Crazy old coot by
> then.

Shudder!

Even frozen, the cold water prawns are deliciously sweet,
much like fresh lobster and fresh squid from the English
channel.

/Nothing/ should be added to those :)

Ditto live spoots, which are also sweet.

Spoots and squid should be sauted for a 60-90s, not
longer - unless you like eating rubber.

>>>> As are the much more suggestive sounding "crumpets" which are a not
>>>> dissimilar recipe but only cooked on one side and rather holey.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-english-crumpets/
>>>
>>> We love crumpets but they are hard to find here. Ikedas in Auburn has
>>> them so we stock up when we pass through there.
>>
>> Potted Morecombe bay shrimps on crumpets. Delicious, but expensive.
>
> Shrimp Remoulade is good too. Boiled shrimp and sauce wrapped in a
> lettuce leaf.

I like celeriac remoulade, but the sauce would overpower a
good shrimp or prawn (but be necessary for tropical tiger
prawns).

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On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 23:44:18 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>On 06/04/22 19:40, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 19:24:20 +0100, Tom Gardner
>> <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/04/22 18:41, John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:48:53 +0100, Martin Brown
>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,
>>>>>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 09:54:11 +0100, Martin Brown
>>>>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 06/04/2022 05:19, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is honey the solution?
>>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They seem about 4 days late with their April fools joke! OTOH
>>>>>>>> Google searches suggest they might be serious.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Polariton based QM memristors are one of the front runners for a
>>>>>>>> viable memristor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://journals.aps.org/prapplied/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevApplied.17.024056
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> And a lot of false dawns too eg. :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5042281
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reminds me of a book that a friend won in a raffle entitled: "The
>>>>>>>> Magic of Honey" by Barbara Cartland
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Honey-Barbara-Cartland/dp/0552103365
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Every bit as bad as her trashy novels.
>>>>>>> It's good in tea, and apparently a decent treatment for burns and
>>>>>>> bed sores. Good on English muffins.
>>>>>
>>>>> Surprisingly it is extremely good for certain skin damage as the very
>>>>> high sugar content osmatic pressure acts as a non-specific sterilising
>>>>> agent against some otherwise almost intractable wound infections.
>>>>>
>>>>> ISTR they concentrate and purify it for this particular use. There are
>>>>> traces of natural bee related antifungals and antibiotics in it too.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do they have English Muffins in England? Sort of like Canadian
>>>>>>> Bacon in Canada. And French Fries.
>>>>>
>>>>> "French" fries came from a Francophone region of *Belgium*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Half of Larkin's posts sound like they were written by the village
>>>>>> idiot. Discussing Honey used in memristors and this guy starts
>>>>>> talking about English Muffins. BTW, that term has a very different
>>>>>> meaning in England.
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't call them "English" muffins but they are a breakfast staple.
>>>>> particulalry in the colder months.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/english_muffins_56640
>>>>
>>>> Thomas' is the iconic brand here, widely available. "Fork split."
>>>>
>>>> One of our favorites is fried shrimp on a English muffin. With kettle
>>>> chips or tater tots.
>>>
>>> In the UK, shrimps are ~6cm long, and the edible bit fits on the last joint of
>>> your thumb. Prawns are ~9cm. Both are delicious
>>> https://britishseafishing.co.uk/brown-shrimp/
>>> https://britishseafishing.co.uk/prawn-and-shrimp-species/
>>
>> The only difference between shrimps and prawns is the 1:3 price ratio.
>>
>> The $7 a pound shrimps at Safeway are actually pretty good. Probably
>> from Viet Nam or something.
>>
>>>
>>> Larger still are Dublin bay prawns (scampi, langoustine).
>>>
>>> The enormous tropical prawns aren't worth eating, IMHO.
>>
>> The bigger they are, the easier to peel and the less flavor.
>
>That /is/ a pain, but is an advantage if you are on a diet.
>
>Bigger -> less flavour seems to be valid for many things,
>e.g. strawberries. It is almost as if there are the same
>number of flavour molecules, just more or less diluted.
>
>
>
>> The ones from the Gulf of Mexico are best. They snack on oil spills
>> and Mississippi river silt.
>>
>> The key to boiled shrimps is Zatarains.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/ZATARAINS-Shrimp-Liquid-Concentrated-8-Ounce/dp/B088F1XSNX/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3BBG4026BBKKT&keywords=zatarains+crab+boil&qid=1649270102&sprefix=zata%2Caps%2C264&sr=8-5
>>
>> I actually knew old man Zatarain when I was a kid. Crazy old coot by
>> then.
>
>Shudder!
>
>Even frozen, the cold water prawns are deliciously sweet,
>much like fresh lobster and fresh squid from the English
>channel.
>
>/Nothing/ should be added to those :)

Cajun/creole food: Nothing succeeds like excess.

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On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 2:40:29 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 19:24:20 +0100, Tom Gardner
> <spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >On 06/04/22 18:41, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:48:53 +0100, Martin Brown
> >> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,
> >>>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 09:54:11 +0100, Martin Brown
> >>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 06/04/2022 05:19, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >>>>>>> Is honey the solution?
> >>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> They seem about 4 days late with their April fools joke! OTOH
> >>>>>> Google searches suggest they might be serious.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Polariton based QM memristors are one of the front runners for a
> >>>>>> viable memristor.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://journals.aps.org/prapplied/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevApplied..17.024056
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>> And a lot of false dawns too eg. :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5042281
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Reminds me of a book that a friend won in a raffle entitled: "The
> >>>>>> Magic of Honey" by Barbara Cartland
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Honey-Barbara-Cartland/dp/0552103365
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>> Every bit as bad as her trashy novels.
> >>>>> It's good in tea, and apparently a decent treatment for burns and
> >>>>> bed sores. Good on English muffins.
> >>>
> >>> Surprisingly it is extremely good for certain skin damage as the very
> >>> high sugar content osmatic pressure acts as a non-specific sterilising
> >>> agent against some otherwise almost intractable wound infections.
> >>>
> >>> ISTR they concentrate and purify it for this particular use. There are
> >>> traces of natural bee related antifungals and antibiotics in it too.
> >>>
> >>>>> Do they have English Muffins in England? Sort of like Canadian
> >>>>> Bacon in Canada. And French Fries.
> >>>
> >>> "French" fries came from a Francophone region of *Belgium*.
> >>>>
> >>>> Half of Larkin's posts sound like they were written by the village
> >>>> idiot. Discussing Honey used in memristors and this guy starts
> >>>> talking about English Muffins. BTW, that term has a very different
> >>>> meaning in England.
> >>>
> >>> We don't call them "English" muffins but they are a breakfast staple.
> >>> particulalry in the colder months.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/english_muffins_56640
> >>
> >> Thomas' is the iconic brand here, widely available. "Fork split."
> >>
> >> One of our favorites is fried shrimp on a English muffin. With kettle
> >> chips or tater tots.
> >
> >In the UK, shrimps are ~6cm long, and the edible bit fits on the last joint of
> >your thumb. Prawns are ~9cm. Both are delicious
> >https://britishseafishing.co.uk/brown-shrimp/
> >https://britishseafishing.co.uk/prawn-and-shrimp-species/
> The only difference between shrimps and prawns is the 1:3 price ratio.
>
> The $7 a pound shrimps at Safeway are actually pretty good. Probably
> from Viet Nam or something.
> >
> >Larger still are Dublin bay prawns (scampi, langoustine).
> >
> >The enormous tropical prawns aren't worth eating, IMHO.
> The bigger they are, the easier to peel and the less flavor.

That is simply BS. I cook shrimp all the time and the best shrimp are not frozen, which here typically means gulf shrimp. I've had frozen gulf shrimp and they are not as good. I have never seen any correlation of size to taste. But then I don't buy the super colossal shrimp. I usually throw in the towel at colossal or my favorite is extra jumbo (16/20 cnt).

> The ones from the Gulf of Mexico are best. They snack on oil spills
> and Mississippi river silt.
>
> The key to boiled shrimps is Zatarains.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/ZATARAINS-Shrimp-Liquid-Concentrated-8-Ounce/dp/B088F1XSNX/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3BBG4026BBKKT&keywords=zatarains+crab+boil&qid=1649270102&sprefix=zata%2Caps%2C264&sr=8-5
>
> I actually knew old man Zatarain when I was a kid. Crazy old coot by
> then.

Boiling shrimp is ok, but grilled with a special seasoning blend is much better. I recently had offers of sex for my shrimp. lol

It's kind of funny that Puerto Rico doesn't have much in the way of spicy food. It's actually pretty bland. Lost of plantains.

--

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On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 6:44:24 PM UTC-4, Tom Gardner wrote:
> On 06/04/22 19:40, John Larkin wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 19:24:20 +0100, Tom Gardner
> > <spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> On 06/04/22 18:41, John Larkin wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:48:53 +0100, Martin Brown
> >>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,
> >>>>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 09:54:11 +0100, Martin Brown
> >>>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 06/04/2022 05:19, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Is honey the solution?
> >>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> They seem about 4 days late with their April fools joke! OTOH
> >>>>>>> Google searches suggest they might be serious.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Polariton based QM memristors are one of the front runners for a
> >>>>>>> viable memristor.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://journals.aps.org/prapplied/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevApplied.17.024056
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> And a lot of false dawns too eg. :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5042281
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Reminds me of a book that a friend won in a raffle entitled: "The
> >>>>>>> Magic of Honey" by Barbara Cartland
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Honey-Barbara-Cartland/dp/0552103365
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> Every bit as bad as her trashy novels.
> >>>>>> It's good in tea, and apparently a decent treatment for burns and
> >>>>>> bed sores. Good on English muffins.
> >>>>
> >>>> Surprisingly it is extremely good for certain skin damage as the very
> >>>> high sugar content osmatic pressure acts as a non-specific sterilising
> >>>> agent against some otherwise almost intractable wound infections.
> >>>>
> >>>> ISTR they concentrate and purify it for this particular use. There are
> >>>> traces of natural bee related antifungals and antibiotics in it too.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Do they have English Muffins in England? Sort of like Canadian
> >>>>>> Bacon in Canada. And French Fries.
> >>>>
> >>>> "French" fries came from a Francophone region of *Belgium*.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Half of Larkin's posts sound like they were written by the village
> >>>>> idiot. Discussing Honey used in memristors and this guy starts
> >>>>> talking about English Muffins. BTW, that term has a very different
> >>>>> meaning in England.
> >>>>
> >>>> We don't call them "English" muffins but they are a breakfast staple.
> >>>> particulalry in the colder months.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/english_muffins_56640
> >>>
> >>> Thomas' is the iconic brand here, widely available. "Fork split."
> >>>
> >>> One of our favorites is fried shrimp on a English muffin. With kettle
> >>> chips or tater tots.
> >>
> >> In the UK, shrimps are ~6cm long, and the edible bit fits on the last joint of
> >> your thumb. Prawns are ~9cm. Both are delicious
> >> https://britishseafishing.co.uk/brown-shrimp/
> >> https://britishseafishing.co.uk/prawn-and-shrimp-species/
> >
> > The only difference between shrimps and prawns is the 1:3 price ratio.
> >
> > The $7 a pound shrimps at Safeway are actually pretty good. Probably
> > from Viet Nam or something.
> >
> >>
> >> Larger still are Dublin bay prawns (scampi, langoustine).
> >>
> >> The enormous tropical prawns aren't worth eating, IMHO.
> >
> > The bigger they are, the easier to peel and the less flavor.
> That /is/ a pain, but is an advantage if you are on a diet.
>
> Bigger -> less flavour seems to be valid for many things,
> e.g. strawberries. It is almost as if there are the same
> number of flavour molecules, just more or less diluted.

It's simply not true for shrimp. Large strawberries have been bred for size in addition to surviving traveling. That is where the flavor goes, the connective tissue rather than the sweet, sugary flesh that makes the berry worth eating.

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 by: Tom Gardner - Thu, 7 Apr 2022 07:26 UTC

On 07/04/22 00:20, Ricky wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 2:40:29 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 19:24:20 +0100, Tom Gardner <spam...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/04/22 18:41, John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:48:53 +0100, Martin Brown
>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,
>>>>>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 09:54:11 +0100, Martin Brown
>>>>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 06/04/2022 05:19, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is honey the solution?
>>>>>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220405084610.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
They seem about 4 days late with their April fools joke! OTOH
>>>>>>>> Google searches suggest they might be serious.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Polariton based QM memristors are one of the front runners for
>>>>>>>> a viable memristor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://journals.aps.org/prapplied/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevApplied.17.024056
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
And a lot of false dawns too eg. :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5042281
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reminds me of a book that a friend won in a raffle entitled:
>>>>>>>> "The Magic of Honey" by Barbara Cartland
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Honey-Barbara-Cartland/dp/0552103365
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
Every bit as bad as her trashy novels.
>>>>>>> It's good in tea, and apparently a decent treatment for burns
>>>>>>> and bed sores. Good on English muffins.
>>>>>
>>>>> Surprisingly it is extremely good for certain skin damage as the
>>>>> very high sugar content osmatic pressure acts as a non-specific
>>>>> sterilising agent against some otherwise almost intractable wound
>>>>> infections.
>>>>>
>>>>> ISTR they concentrate and purify it for this particular use. There
>>>>> are traces of natural bee related antifungals and antibiotics in it
>>>>> too.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do they have English Muffins in England? Sort of like Canadian
>>>>>>> Bacon in Canada. And French Fries.
>>>>>
>>>>> "French" fries came from a Francophone region of *Belgium*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Half of Larkin's posts sound like they were written by the village
>>>>>> idiot. Discussing Honey used in memristors and this guy starts
>>>>>> talking about English Muffins. BTW, that term has a very different
>>>>>> meaning in England.
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't call them "English" muffins but they are a breakfast
>>>>> staple. particulalry in the colder months.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/english_muffins_56640
>>>>
>>>> Thomas' is the iconic brand here, widely available. "Fork split."
>>>>
>>>> One of our favorites is fried shrimp on a English muffin. With kettle
>>>> chips or tater tots.
>>>
>>> In the UK, shrimps are ~6cm long, and the edible bit fits on the last
>>> joint of your thumb. Prawns are ~9cm. Both are delicious
>>> https://britishseafishing.co.uk/brown-shrimp/
>>> https://britishseafishing.co.uk/prawn-and-shrimp-species/
>> The only difference between shrimps and prawns is the 1:3 price ratio.
>>
>> The $7 a pound shrimps at Safeway are actually pretty good. Probably from
>> Viet Nam or something.
>>>
>>> Larger still are Dublin bay prawns (scampi, langoustine).
>>>
>>> The enormous tropical prawns aren't worth eating, IMHO.
>> The bigger they are, the easier to peel and the less flavor.
>
> That is simply BS. I cook shrimp all the time and the best shrimp are not
> frozen, which here typically means gulf shrimp. I've had frozen gulf shrimp
> and they are not as good. I have never seen any correlation of size to
> taste. But then I don't buy the super colossal shrimp. I usually throw in
> the towel at colossal or my favorite is extra jumbo (16/20 cnt).
>
>
>> The ones from the Gulf of Mexico are best. They snack on oil spills and
>> Mississippi river silt.
>>
>> The key to boiled shrimps is Zatarains.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/ZATARAINS-Shrimp-Liquid-Concentrated-8-Ounce/dp/B088F1XSNX/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3BBG4026BBKKT&keywords=zatarains+crab+boil&qid=1649270102&sprefix=zata%2Caps%2C264&sr=8-5
>>
>>
>>
I actually knew old man Zatarain when I was a kid. Crazy old coot by
>> then.
>
> Boiling shrimp is ok, but grilled with a special seasoning blend is much
> better. I recently had offers of sex for my shrimp. lol
>
> It's kind of funny that Puerto Rico doesn't have much in the way of spicy
> food. It's actually pretty bland. Lost of plantains.
>

Did you bother to read my post?

How big are /your/ shrimp?

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On 06/04/2022 18:41, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:48:53 +0100, Martin Brown
> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,

>> As are the much more suggestive sounding "crumpets" which are a not
>> dissimilar recipe but only cooked on one side and rather holey.
>>
>> https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-english-crumpets/
>
> We love crumpets but they are hard to find here. Ikedas in Auburn has
> them so we stock up when we pass through there.

There must surely be a British shop in somewhere the size of San
Francisco. I recall there were a few "British" and "Irish" pubs.

Recipe isn't that difficult if you are inclined to DIY.

--
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On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 09:30:53 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

>On 06/04/2022 18:41, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:48:53 +0100, Martin Brown
>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,
>
>>> As are the much more suggestive sounding "crumpets" which are a not
>>> dissimilar recipe but only cooked on one side and rather holey.
>>>
>>> https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-english-crumpets/
>>
>> We love crumpets but they are hard to find here. Ikedas in Auburn has
>> them so we stock up when we pass through there.
>
>There must surely be a British shop in somewhere the size of San
>Francisco. I recall there were a few "British" and "Irish" pubs.
>
>Recipe isn't that difficult if you are inclined to DIY.

Camelot, on the crumbling cliffs of Pacifica (look for drone vids of
Pacifica on Youtube) is a proper fake British bar. The fish and chips
are optionally oysters and chips.

There are far more Irish pubs than brit.

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 by: Martin Brown - Thu, 7 Apr 2022 12:24 UTC

On 07/04/2022 11:58, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 09:30:53 +0100, Martin Brown
> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 06/04/2022 18:41, John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:48:53 +0100, Martin Brown
>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,
>>
>>>> As are the much more suggestive sounding "crumpets" which are a not
>>>> dissimilar recipe but only cooked on one side and rather holey.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-english-crumpets/
>>>
>>> We love crumpets but they are hard to find here. Ikedas in Auburn has
>>> them so we stock up when we pass through there.
>>
>> There must surely be a British shop in somewhere the size of San
>> Francisco. I recall there were a few "British" and "Irish" pubs.
>>
>> Recipe isn't that difficult if you are inclined to DIY.
>
> Camelot, on the crumbling cliffs of Pacifica (look for drone vids of
> Pacifica on Youtube) is a proper fake British bar. The fish and chips
> are optionally oysters and chips.

My British friends who are now US expats invariably demand to go to the
chippy when they visit the UK - something they can't easily get at home.
Not seen any of them since lockdown started.

UK isn't a good place to visit right now. Transport is in complete chaos
as Covid infections run rife and there is a new Omicron XE variant a
recombination of BA.1 & BA.2 that is reckoned 10% more infectious than
either now beginning to take hold. 1 in 12 had active Covid last week!

I'm going back a long while so I expect it isn't there now but I recall
being taken to a "British" pub not too far from Redwood. Apart from
serving freezing cold British beer it was notable for a big Union flag
over the front door and a tree growing through the bar area up through
the roof. It looked vaguely tropical shack for a "British" pub.

> There are far more Irish pubs than brit.

Indeed.

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On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 13:24:59 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

>On 07/04/2022 11:58, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 09:30:53 +0100, Martin Brown
>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/04/2022 18:41, John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:48:53 +0100, Martin Brown
>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,
>>>
>>>>> As are the much more suggestive sounding "crumpets" which are a not
>>>>> dissimilar recipe but only cooked on one side and rather holey.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-english-crumpets/
>>>>
>>>> We love crumpets but they are hard to find here. Ikedas in Auburn has
>>>> them so we stock up when we pass through there.
>>>
>>> There must surely be a British shop in somewhere the size of San
>>> Francisco. I recall there were a few "British" and "Irish" pubs.
>>>
>>> Recipe isn't that difficult if you are inclined to DIY.
>>
>> Camelot, on the crumbling cliffs of Pacifica (look for drone vids of
>> Pacifica on Youtube) is a proper fake British bar. The fish and chips
>> are optionally oysters and chips.
>
>My British friends who are now US expats invariably demand to go to the
>chippy when they visit the UK - something they can't easily get at home.
>Not seen any of them since lockdown started.

Do you have curly fries in Olde England? Civilization is greatly
diminished without curly fries.

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 by: Martin Brown - Thu, 7 Apr 2022 14:42 UTC

On 07/04/2022 15:37, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 13:24:59 +0100, Martin Brown
> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 07/04/2022 11:58, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Camelot, on the crumbling cliffs of Pacifica (look for drone vids of
>>> Pacifica on Youtube) is a proper fake British bar. The fish and chips
>>> are optionally oysters and chips.
>>
>> My British friends who are now US expats invariably demand to go to the
>> chippy when they visit the UK - something they can't easily get at home.
>> Not seen any of them since lockdown started.
>
> Do you have curly fries in Olde England? Civilization is greatly
> diminished without curly fries.

We have something called curly fries. Are they what you mean?

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/282059879

They look like and about as appealing as worms to me!

Or do you mean what we would call crinkle cut chips (which were all the
rage in the 1970's here as I recall). Chunky ones and thin cut ones are
more common now. I can't recall when I last saw them crinkle cut.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Thu, 7 Apr 2022 15:04 UTC

On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 15:42:13 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

>On 07/04/2022 15:37, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 13:24:59 +0100, Martin Brown
>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/04/2022 11:58, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Camelot, on the crumbling cliffs of Pacifica (look for drone vids of
>>>> Pacifica on Youtube) is a proper fake British bar. The fish and chips
>>>> are optionally oysters and chips.
>>>
>>> My British friends who are now US expats invariably demand to go to the
>>> chippy when they visit the UK - something they can't easily get at home.
>>> Not seen any of them since lockdown started.
>>
>> Do you have curly fries in Olde England? Civilization is greatly
>> diminished without curly fries.
>
>We have something called curly fries. Are they what you mean?
>
>https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/282059879
>
>They look like and about as appealing as worms to me!

Real (not frozen supermarket) curlies can be wonderful.

https://tinyurl.com/5ecafra9

Ikeda's tri-tip sandwich with curly fries is worth the 130-mile drive.

>
>Or do you mean what we would call crinkle cut chips (which were all the
>rage in the 1970's here as I recall). Chunky ones and thin cut ones are
>more common now. I can't recall when I last saw them crinkle cut.

A few places here do proper french fries, skinny and crispy and served
in a fancy metal cone thing lined with newspaper.

--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

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 by: Phil Hobbs - Thu, 7 Apr 2022 21:04 UTC

Martin Brown wrote:
> On 06/04/2022 18:41, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:48:53 +0100, Martin Brown
>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/04/2022 17:26, Ricky wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4,
>
>>> As are the much more suggestive sounding "crumpets" which are a not
>>> dissimilar recipe but only cooked on one side and rather holey.
>>>
>>> https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-english-crumpets/
>>
>> We love crumpets but they are hard to find here. Ikedas in Auburn has
>> them so we stock up when we pass through there.
>
> There must surely be a British shop in somewhere the size of San
> Francisco. I recall there were a few "British" and "Irish" pubs.
>
> Recipe isn't that difficult if you are inclined to DIY.
>

BTW, Martin,

Do you have a copy of your PHYS362 notes page handy? It's nowhere to be
found on the web, even on archive.org. I'm going through old sci.optics
posts for the new book, and IIRC you said it had everything about all
kinds of dispersive spectrometers.

Thanks

Phil Hobbs
(the above email address works)

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 by: Clifford Heath - Thu, 7 Apr 2022 23:33 UTC

On 8/4/22 1:04 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 15:42:13 +0100, Martin Brown
> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>> Or do you mean what we would call crinkle cut chips (which were all the
>> rage in the 1970's here as I recall). Chunky ones and thin cut ones are
>> more common now. I can't recall when I last saw them crinkle cut.
>
> A few places here do proper french fries, skinny and crispy and served
> in a fancy metal cone thing lined with newspaper.

The French call those Belgian fries.

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