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 by: Joe Gwinn - Thu, 7 Apr 2022 00:46 UTC

How to calibrate and compare diverse news sources? If one wants
diversity of viewpoint, one's sources should not be too similar in
political opinions and leanings.

In the US, the entire political scale is somewhat to the right of the
European scale.

Here is "Americans are divided by party in the sources they turn to
for political news" from Pew Research:

..<https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2020/01/24/americans-are-divided-by-party-in-the-sources-they-turn-to-for-political-news/>

Note the differences in circulation, which is a rough proxy for
influence. But also note that the Wall Street Journal has the highest
_paid_ circulation of any US newspaper, and has national scope.

Here are the 2021 statistics:

"Average weekday print circulation of selected newspapers in the
United States from October 2020 to March 2021"

..<https://www.statista.com/statistics/272790/circulation-of-the-biggest-daily-newspapers-in-the-us/>

And another take:

"Media Bias Chart" from Ad Fontes Media:

..<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_Fontes_Media>

There are likely similar charts for European media, both print and
electronic.

Joe Gwinn

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 by: Ricky - Fri, 8 Apr 2022 15:10 UTC

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 8:46:35 PM UTC-4, Joe Gwinn wrote:
> How to calibrate and compare diverse news sources? If one wants
> diversity of viewpoint, one's sources should not be too similar in
> political opinions and leanings.
>
> In the US, the entire political scale is somewhat to the right of the
> European scale.
>
> Here is "Americans are divided by party in the sources they turn to
> for political news" from Pew Research:
>
> .<https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2020/01/24/americans-are-divided-by-party-in-the-sources-they-turn-to-for-political-news/>
>
>
> Note the differences in circulation, which is a rough proxy for
> influence. But also note that the Wall Street Journal has the highest
> _paid_ circulation of any US newspaper, and has national scope.
>
> Here are the 2021 statistics:
>
> "Average weekday print circulation of selected newspapers in the
> United States from October 2020 to March 2021"
>
> .<https://www.statista.com/statistics/272790/circulation-of-the-biggest-daily-newspapers-in-the-us/>
>
>
> And another take:
>
> "Media Bias Chart" from Ad Fontes Media:
>
> .<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_Fontes_Media>
>
>
> There are likely similar charts for European media, both print and
> electronic.

Who gives a shit about the ratings by some third party who you also don't know the bias of?

Read from a variety of sources and parse the truth/reality from the manipulative BS. Hell, I'm able to get info from both NPR and Fox, because I can pretty easily tell the biased portion of a story from the actual news reporting. Actually, if you ignore the clearly opinion pieces on Fox, they do some decent reporting. With NPR it's typically a bit more subtle, but you can see the bias in tone of the story even if not in the facts reported.

--

Rick C.

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 by: whit3rd - Fri, 8 Apr 2022 18:44 UTC

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 8:10:48 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 8:46:35 PM UTC-4, Joe Gwinn wrote:
> > How to calibrate and compare diverse news sources?

> Who gives a shit about the ratings by some third party who you also don't know the bias of?
>
> Read from a variety of sources and parse the truth/reality from the manipulative BS. Hell, I'm able to get info from both NPR and Fox, because I can pretty easily tell the biased portion of a story from the actual news reporting.

That's a good point; as long as multiple news organizations are reporting, no blatant untruth goes uncorrected
(if only because of competitive response). What DOES go uncorrected is faulty reasoning (give evidence of X,
but conclude "X plus Y").

Some people think extension/extrapolation/opinion by news organizations is equivalent to reporting, and
'trust' the organization. That's lazy: reporting is about events, is a historic record, while opinion is
what a thinking person ought to be able to create from that record, independent of commentators.

Take the reporting for what it's worth. Use it to make your own opinions. The problem I have with
(for example) Trump is that he's weak: he finds weak reasoning and adopts it as his stance.
If the man had any intellectual backbone, I never saw it.

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 by: Phil Allison - Fri, 8 Apr 2022 23:47 UTC

Witless Idiot whit3rd wrote:
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>.... as long as multiple news organizations are reporting, no blatant untruth goes uncorrected
>

** What utter, childish nonsense.
You have to know the truth to even suspect that it is simply NOT being reported.

Commercial news services ( they all are) are in the entertainment business, reporters are positioned as stars in actual events constantly explaining them to naive and gullible viewers. Ratings are all that matter so stories must be entertaining, but not too confronting.
Staffers well know the political affiliations of bosses and comply automatically by self censoring.
Newspapers used to be the most blatant examples but nowadays broadcast new services out compete them in every way.

> Take the reporting for what it's worth. Use it to make your own opinions.

** Recipe for being hoodwinked at every step.

>The problem I have with (for example) Trump is that he's weak:

** That is a bizarre remark.

Trump is famous for calling out US news services with the complaint they publish " fake news".
Such a complaint from the US President is deeply insulting and worrying to these businesses, as their incomes depend on being believed.
Most journalists would be out of work if Trump's complaint was widely accepted as true.

He refused to play their corrupt game so they had to get rid of him - ASAP and by any and all means.
Of course that aim coincided with the similar aim of the Dem party.

....... Phil

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On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 4:47:39 PM UTC-7, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> whit3rd wrote:
> =======================
> >
> >.... as long as multiple news organizations are reporting, no blatant untruth goes uncorrected

> ** What utter, childish nonsense.
> You have to know the truth to even suspect that it is simply NOT being reported.

> >The problem I have with (for example) Trump is that he's weak:

> ** That is a bizarre remark.
>
> Trump is famous for calling out US news services with the complaint they publish " fake news".
> Such a complaint from the US President is deeply insulting and worrying to these businesses, as their incomes depend on being believed.

Yeah, and that's weak. It's logically weak, often baseless i.e. without foundation. I'm not saying
his voice was low and indistinct when I say 'weak'. His 'was stolen' is weak, too. And, roundly
refuted by multiple independent news organizations.

You haven't seen one news organization report a flaw in another's reportage? Yet, you've
heard the Donald's baseless blather about 'fake news' and remember THAT?

Someone's buying vague baseless criticisms at far above intrinsic value.

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Witless MORON whit3rd wrote:
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> > >
> > >.... as long as multiple news organizations are reporting, no blatant untruth goes uncorrected
>
> > ** What utter, childish nonsense.

You have to know the truth to even suspect that it is simply NOT being reported.
==================================================================

> > >The problem I have with (for example) Trump is that he's weak:
>
> > ** That is a bizarre remark.
> >
> > Trump is famous for calling out US news services with the complaint they publish " fake news".
> > Such a complaint from the US President is deeply insulting and worrying to these businesses, as their incomes depend on being believed.

> Yeah, and that's weak. It's logically weak, often baseless i.e. without foundation.

** FFS you retard - it is ABSOLUTE FACT.

> You haven't seen one news organization report a flaw in another's reportage?

** Never said that and it's not relevant.
We all know YOU blindly trust one.
The one the Dems control.

...... Phil

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On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 5:12:37 PM UTC-7, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> Witless MORON whit3rd wrote:
> =========================
> > > >
> > > >.... as long as multiple news organizations are reporting, no blatant untruth goes uncorrected
> >
> > > ** What utter, childish nonsense.

> > You haven't seen one news organization report a flaw in another's reportage?
> ** Never said that and it's not relevant.

Oh yes, it certainly is relevant.

> We all know YOU blindly trust one.

Who am I? Which one? Sounds like a blind stab-in-the-dark to me,
not based on any factual reportage. That, IMHO, is what I call a weak claim.
Anyone who clings to it as "fact" is attracted only by the flimsiest of forces, thus
must be assumed to be weak.

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Witless MORON whit3rd wrote:
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> > > > >
> > > > >.... as long as multiple news organizations are reporting, no blatant untruth goes uncorrected
> > >
? > > > > ** What utter, childish nonsense.
>>
> > > You haven't seen one news organization report a flaw in another's reportage?
>
> > ** Never said that and it's not relevant.
>
> Oh yes, it certainly is relevant.

** ROTFL - saying nonsense over and over makes it true ?

Wot a witless, bloody moron.

> > We all know YOU blindly trust one.

> Who am I? Which one? Sounds like a blind stab-in-the-dark to me,
> not based on any factual reportage. That, IMHO, is what I call a weak claim.
> Anyone who clings to it as "fact" is attracted only by the flimsiest of forces, thus
> must be assumed to be weak.
>

** We all can see you're an glaring autistic retard.

Fuck off and stop annoying us with your mental disability.

....... Phil

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On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 6:11:37 PM UTC-7, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> whit3rd wrote:

> > > > > >.... as long as multiple news organizations are reporting, no blatant untruth goes uncorrected
> > > >
> ?
> > > > > ** What utter, childish nonsense.
> >>
> > > > You haven't seen one news organization report a flaw in another's reportage?
> >
> > > ** Never said that and it's not relevant.
> >
> > Oh yes, it certainly is relevant.
> ** ROTFL - saying nonsense over and over makes it true ?

Read it again. You didn't clip out enough of the chain of argument, to hide the
fact of 'report a flaw' being a relevant evidence of 'no blatant untruth goes uncorrected'.

Not nonsense at all, it's a reminder of observations that any adult should remember making.
To make a claim unsupported by observations is a weak argument.

The familiar 'Liar, liar, pants on fire' is likewise a weak argument. No pants afire noted,
and repeating the word 'liar' is more infantile than incisive when considering the strength of
the statement. ROTFL is similarly irrelevant, and somewhat silly.

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Total Fuckwit whit3rd wrote:

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>
> > > > > > >.... as long as multiple news organizations are reporting, no blatant untruth goes uncorrected
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > ** What utter, childish nonsense.
> > >>
> > > > > You haven't seen one news organization report a flaw in another's reportage?
> > >
> > > > ** Never said that and it's not relevant.
> > >
> > > Oh yes, it certainly is relevant.
>>
> > ** ROTFL - saying nonsense over and over makes it true ?
>
> Read it again.

** No way - your tripe makes me wanna puke.

..... evidence of 'no blatant untruth goes uncorrected'.

** Fraid that claim is INSANE CRAP .

We all can see you're an glaring autistic retard.
Fuck off and stop annoying us with your mental disability.
=============================================

...... Phil

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> Total Fuckwit whit3rd wrote:
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> ========================
>
>>
>> > > > > > >.... as long as multiple news organizations are reporting, no blatant untruth goes uncorrected
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > > > ** What utter, childish nonsense.
>> > >>
>> > > > > You haven't seen one news organization report a flaw in another's reportage?
>> > >
>> > > > ** Never said that and it's not relevant.
>> > >
>> > > Oh yes, it certainly is relevant.
>>>
>> > ** ROTFL - saying nonsense over and over makes it true ?
>>
>> Read it again.
>
> ** No way - your tripe makes me wanna puke.
>
> .... evidence of 'no blatant untruth goes uncorrected'.
>
> ** Fraid that claim is INSANE CRAP .
>
> We all can see you're an glaring autistic retard.
> Fuck off and stop annoying us with your mental disability.
> =============================================
>
>
>
> ..... Phil
>
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>
>
>
>
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> On Saturday, April 9, 2022 at 5:16:26 PM UTC+10, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
>> whit3rd wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> > > > > > > >.... as long as multiple news organizations are reporting, no blatant untruth goes uncorrected
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > ** What utter, childish nonsense.
>> > > >>
>> > > > > > You haven't seen one news organization report a flaw in another's reportage?
>> > > >
>> > > > > ** Never said that and it's not relevant.
>> > > >
>> > > > Oh yes, it certainly is relevant.
>> >>
>> > > ** ROTFL - saying nonsense over and over makes it true ?
>> >
>> > Read it again.
>>
>> ** No way - your tripe makes me wanna puke.
>
> Phil has the same reaction as John Larkin to posts that reveal his deficiencies. So he keeps on posting tripe.
>
>> .... evidence of 'no blatant untruth goes uncorrected'.
>>
>> ** Fraid that claim is INSANE CRAP .
>
> Phil may want to think that, but if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
>
>> We all can see you're an glaring autistic retard.
>
> Actually, nobody else can. He isn't.
>
>> Fuck off and stop annoying us with your mental disability.
>
> It's Phil's mental disability that annoys most of us. Whit3rd is quite a bit brighter than Phil, and much less prone to bouts of incoherent rage. In fact I can't remember any.
>
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney
>

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 by: Edward Hernandez - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 06:15 UTC

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sun, 10 Apr 2022 05:34:44 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t2tq9k$d1p$2@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET has been 56.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults"
to USENET.

Rw9TP0B6cEfQ

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 by: Edward Hernandez - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 06:15 UTC

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sun, 10 Apr 2022 05:35:53 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t2tqbp$d1p$3@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET has been 56.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

aqHwiKlsm8rc

Re: The political leanings of news media organizations

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 by: bitrex - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 14:05 UTC

On 4/8/2022 7:47 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

> ** That is a bizarre remark.
>
> Trump is famous for calling out US news services with the complaint they publish " fake news".
> Such a complaint from the US President is deeply insulting and worrying to these businesses, as their incomes depend on being believed.
> Most journalists would be out of work if Trump's complaint was widely accepted as true.
>
> He refused to play their corrupt game so they had to get rid of him - ASAP and by any and all means.
> Of course that aim coincided with the similar aim of the Dem party.

The need of many Americans to be taken for a ride by a carnival-barker
who operates outside the usual power structures, rather than within
them, runs deep

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 by: John Doe - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:59 UTC

Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is the stalker a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

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>
> The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
>
> And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
>> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
>> CLUELESS...
>
> And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
> formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
> Sun, 10 Apr 2022 05:35:53 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
> <t2tqbp$d1p$3@dont-email.me>).
>
> NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.
>
> Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
> <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
> (UTC):
>
>> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
>> except insults to this group.
>
> Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
> to USENET has been 56.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except
> insults" to USENET.
>
> This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
> readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
> follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.
>
> aqHwiKlsm8rc
>
>
>

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 by: John Doe - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:59 UTC

Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is the stalker a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

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> The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
>
> And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
>> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
>> CLUELESS...
>
> And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
> incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sun, 10 Apr 2022 05:34:44 -0000
> (UTC) in message-id <t2tq9k$d1p$2@dont-email.me>.
>
> Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
> <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
> (UTC):
>
>> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
>> except insults to this group.
>
> Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
> USENET has been 56.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults"
> to USENET.
>
> Rw9TP0B6cEfQ
>
>
>

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Subject: Re: The political leanings of news media organizations
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 by: John Doe - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 17:01 UTC

bitrex wrote:

> The need of many Americans to be taken for a ride by a carnival-barker
> who operates outside the usual power structures, rather than within
> them, runs deep

Sounds like a love-hate relationship.
BTW... You forgot "racist".

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 by: Edward Hernandez - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 17:27 UTC

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:59:32 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t2v2dk$b45$1@dont-email.me>.

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET has been 56.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

KSGSeWjPacTv

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 by: Edward Hernandez - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 17:27 UTC

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:59:43 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t2v2dv$b45$2@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET has been 56.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

lQBSJzd5+7JM

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Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: The political leanings of news media organizations
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 by: Jim Jackson - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 21:38 UTC

On 2022-04-10, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
> On 4/8/2022 7:47 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
>
>> ** That is a bizarre remark.
>>
>> Trump is famous for calling out US news services with the complaint they publish " fake news".
>> Such a complaint from the US President is deeply insulting and worrying to these businesses, as their incomes depend on being believed.
>> Most journalists would be out of work if Trump's complaint was widely accepted as true.
>>
>> He refused to play their corrupt game so they had to get rid of him - ASAP and by any and all means.
>> Of course that aim coincided with the similar aim of the Dem party.
>
> The need of many Americans to be taken for a ride by a carnival-barker
> who operates outside the usual power structures, rather than within
> them, runs deep
>

Not just americans!!!!

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 by: John Doe - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 21:50 UTC

Jim Jackson wrote:

> bitrex wrote:
>> Phil Allison wrote:

>>> Trump is famous for calling out US news services with the complaint
>>> they publish " fake news". Such a complaint from the US President is
>>> deeply insulting and worrying to these businesses, as their incomes
>>> depend on being believed. Most journalists would be out of work if
>>> Trump's complaint was widely accepted as true.
>>>
>>> He refused to play their corrupt game so they had to get rid of him -
>>> ASAP and by any and all means. Of course that aim coincided with the
>>> similar aim of the Dem party.
>>
>> The need of many Americans to be taken for a ride by a carnival-barker
>> who operates outside the usual power structures, rather than within
>> them, runs deep
>
> Not just americans!!!!

You can say that again. The poster doesn't freely admit what country it is
from when it bashes Americans, for good reason. Little guys LOVE to pick on
big guys.

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 by: Flyguy - Tue, 12 Apr 2022 04:43 UTC

On Sunday, April 10, 2022 at 10:27:55 AM UTC-7, Edward Hernandez wrote:
> The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sdhn7c$pkp$4...@dont-email.me>:
>
> > The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
>
> And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sg3kr7$qt5$1...@dont-email.me>:
>
> > The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> > breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> > CLUELESS...
> And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
> formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
> Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:59:43 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
> <t2v2dv$b45$2...@dont-email.me>).
> NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.
> Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
> <svsh05$lbh$5...@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
> (UTC):
>
> > Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> > except insults to this group.
> Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
> to USENET has been 56.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except
> insults" to USENET.
> This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
> readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
> follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.
> lQBSJzd5+7JM

Hey Eddie, you are BORING and REPETITIVE - go AWAY!

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 by: John Doe - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 05:20 UTC

Flyguy wrote:

> Hey Eddie, you are BORING and REPETITIVE - go AWAY!

Like Bozo, it cannot be reasoned with because it has no love for USENET.

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 by: John Doe - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 14:43 UTC

Bozo is the most energetic troll in this group.

Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an
attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

"the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
(Bozo paraphrased)

"the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
(Bill Sloman)

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