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* There is nothing wrong with Euclidean geometryMaciej Wozniak
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There is nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry

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Subject: There is nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry
From: maluwozn...@gmail.com (Maciej Wozniak)
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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Fri, 5 Aug 2022 05:50 UTC

On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 04:00:32 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:

> There's nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry, it just happens not to
> the geometry that describes the universe we live in.

Nonononono! Nothing is wrong with the claims which
are false for the reality. Saying EG is - we're not trying
to deprecate it any way. Nonononononono! We would
never dare! Even if some of us call it "the delusions
of an old Greek" - our respect for it is next to infinite.

Re: There is nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry

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Subject: Re: There is nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry
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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Fri, 5 Aug 2022 07:59 UTC

On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 07:50:21 UTC+2, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 04:00:32 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
>
> > There's nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry, it just happens not to
> > the geometry that describes the universe we live in.
>
> Nonononono! Nothing is wrong with the claims which
> are false for the reality. Saying EG is - we're not trying
> to deprecate it any way. Nonononononono! We would
> never dare! Even if some of us call it "the delusions
> of an old Greek" - our respect for it is next to infinite.

What's wrong with the claim that Earth is a flat disc
placed on 4 big elephants? Not true for the reality,
of course, but we can imagine a world where it holds...
A fine claim, and if if "it just happens not to
the geometry that describes the universe we live in"
- so what?

Re: There is nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry

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Subject: Re: There is nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry
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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 5 Aug 2022 21:04 UTC

On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 12:59:59 AM UTC-7, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 07:50:21 UTC+2, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 04:00:32 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >
> > > There's nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry, it just happens not to
> > > the geometry that describes the universe we live in.
> >
> > Nonononono! Nothing is wrong with the claims which
> > are false for the reality. Saying EG is - we're not trying
> > to deprecate it any way. Nonononononono! We would
> > never dare! Even if some of us call it "the delusions
> > of an old Greek" - our respect for it is next to infinite.
> What's wrong with the claim that Earth is a flat disc
> placed on 4 big elephants? Not true for the reality,
> of course, but we can imagine a world where it holds...
> A fine claim, and if if "it just happens not to
> the geometry that describes the universe we live in"
> - so what?

Dimension is flat.

Re: There is nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry

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Subject: Re: There is nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry
From: ross.fin...@gmail.com (Ross A. Finlayson)
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 by: Ross A. Finlayson - Sat, 6 Aug 2022 04:20 UTC

On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 2:04:53 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 12:59:59 AM UTC-7, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 07:50:21 UTC+2, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 04:00:32 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > >
> > > > There's nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry, it just happens not to
> > > > the geometry that describes the universe we live in.
> > >
> > > Nonononono! Nothing is wrong with the claims which
> > > are false for the reality. Saying EG is - we're not trying
> > > to deprecate it any way. Nonononononono! We would
> > > never dare! Even if some of us call it "the delusions
> > > of an old Greek" - our respect for it is next to infinite.
> > What's wrong with the claim that Earth is a flat disc
> > placed on 4 big elephants? Not true for the reality,
> > of course, but we can imagine a world where it holds...
> > A fine claim, and if if "it just happens not to
> > the geometry that describes the universe we live in"
> > - so what?
> Dimension is flat.

A flat Earth has four corners.

Re: There is nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry

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Subject: Re: There is nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry
From: maluwozn...@gmail.com (Maciej Wozniak)
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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Sat, 6 Aug 2022 04:26 UTC

On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 06:20:54 UTC+2, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 2:04:53 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 12:59:59 AM UTC-7, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 07:50:21 UTC+2, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > > On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 04:00:32 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > There's nothing wrong with Euclidean geometry, it just happens not to
> > > > > the geometry that describes the universe we live in.
> > > >
> > > > Nonononono! Nothing is wrong with the claims which
> > > > are false for the reality. Saying EG is - we're not trying
> > > > to deprecate it any way. Nonononononono! We would
> > > > never dare! Even if some of us call it "the delusions
> > > > of an old Greek" - our respect for it is next to infinite.
> > > What's wrong with the claim that Earth is a flat disc
> > > placed on 4 big elephants? Not true for the reality,
> > > of course, but we can imagine a world where it holds...
> > > A fine claim, and if if "it just happens not to
> > > the geometry that describes the universe we live in"
> > > - so what?
> > Dimension is flat.
> A flat Earth has four corners.

And time dilates there.

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