The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
It will go on forever.

The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.

These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
continue fighting.

Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
behind Putin�s Ukraine War:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0

Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
Russian'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs

--
MRM

Mike Monett writes BULLSHIT

===============================
> The Ukraine war is a spiritual war.

** No such animal.

> It will go on forever.

** Resistance may continue for long time, if Russia takes over,

> The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back.

** Absolute garbage.

>
> These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.

** Yeah - cos you made it up.

> Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions

** More absolute garbage.

Sanctions will ruin the Russian economy.
Putin will be overthrown.

....... Phil

On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 10:21:27 PM UTC-7, Mike Monett wrote:
> The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
> It will go on forever.
>
> The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
> doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.

True believers don't believe in atrocity in the name of religion. Pootin is an opportunist in religion.

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
wrote:

>The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
>It will go on forever.
>
>The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
>doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.
>
>These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
>They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
>continue fighting.
>
>Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
>behind Putin’s Ukraine War:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
>
>Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
>Russian'
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs

This is a great fork in history. Russia could crush Ukraine, hunker
down, absorb more small countries, isolate itself from the rest of
civilization, brain drain all its talent and morality, and stay poor
and barbaric for another 50 years.

Or they could disappear Putin and become european.

--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

On a sunny day (Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:20:32 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<71ht5h1pk8t8eve6cj4jmir45n50ebr6pg@4ax.com>:

>On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
>wrote:
>
>>The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
>>It will go on forever.
>>
>>The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
>>doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.
>>
>>These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
>>They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
>>continue fighting.
>>
>>Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
>>behind Putin’s Ukraine War:
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
>>
>>Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
>>Russian'
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs
>
>This is a great fork in history. Russia could crush Ukraine, hunker
>down, absorb more small countries, isolate itself from the rest of
>civilization, brain drain all its talent and morality, and stay poor
>and barbaric for another 50 years.
>
>Or they could disappear Putin and become european.

Or they could nuke US and divide it up between China for the east part and Russia for the west part
FYI.

All that is required to trigger that is when byethen mistakes his red button for his toasters's.
Or maybe they will make the whole US an animal reserve.
Does not take much work...

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:56:29 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:20:32 -0700) it happened
> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
> <71ht5h1pk8t8eve6c...@4ax.com>:
> >On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spa...@not.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
> >>It will go on forever.
> >>
> >>The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
> >>doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed..
> >>
> >>These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
> >>They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
> >>continue fighting.
> >>
> >>Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
> >>behind Putin’s Ukraine War:
> >>
> >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
> >>
> >>Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
> >>Russian'
> >>
> >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs
> >
> >This is a great fork in history. Russia could crush Ukraine, hunker
> >down, absorb more small countries, isolate itself from the rest of
> >civilization, brain drain all its talent and morality, and stay poor
> >and barbaric for another 50 years.
> >
> >Or they could disappear Putin and become european.
> Or they could nuke US and divide it up between China for the east part and Russia for the west part
> FYI.
>
> All that is required to trigger that is when byethen mistakes his red button for his toasters's.
> Or maybe they will make the whole US an animal reserve.
> Does not take much work...

Yeah, I'm sure that's what will happen.

From the mouth of Jan...

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 14:54:10 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:20:32 -0700) it happened
>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
><71ht5h1pk8t8eve6cj4jmir45n50ebr6pg@4ax.com>:
>
>>On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
>>>It will go on forever.
>>>
>>>The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
>>>doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.
>>>
>>>These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
>>>They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
>>>continue fighting.
>>>
>>>Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
>>>behind Putin’s Ukraine War:
>>>
>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
>>>
>>>Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
>>>Russian'
>>>
>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs
>>
>>This is a great fork in history. Russia could crush Ukraine, hunker
>>down, absorb more small countries, isolate itself from the rest of
>>civilization, brain drain all its talent and morality, and stay poor
>>and barbaric for another 50 years.
>>
>>Or they could disappear Putin and become european.
>
>Or they could nuke US and divide it up between China for the east part and Russia for the west part
>FYI.

That would aguably be historic too.

>
>All that is required to trigger that is when byethen mistakes his red button for his toasters's.
>Or maybe they will make the whole US an animal reserve.
>Does not take much work...

Our back yard is a jungle already. Snakes, skunks, raccoons, possum,
coyotes, squirrels, scrub jays, hummers, junkoes (sp?), feral cats,
wild parrots, giant ravens.

A wild turkey has been spotted down in the village.

--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

On 4/19/2022 17:20, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
>> It will go on forever.
>>
>> The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
>> doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.
>>
>> These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
>> They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
>> continue fighting.
>>
>> Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
>> behind Putin’s Ukraine War:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
>>
>> Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
>> Russian'
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs
>
> This is a great fork in history. Russia could crush Ukraine, hunker
> down, absorb more small countries, isolate itself from the rest of
> civilization, brain drain all its talent and morality, and stay poor
> and barbaric for another 50 years.
>
> Or they could disappear Putin and become european.
>
>
>

They have too many nukes for the world to allow them to stay a
North Korea 2.0 for such a long time (they already are that, only
the fat Kim unlike Putin has the brains not to put his country
at war with the rest of the world).
This has to be resolved one way or another, whatever the cost.

On a sunny day (Tue, 19 Apr 2022 08:27:30 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<2ukt5hh08b3m586fk79urss07dcu7ksgvq@4ax.com>:

>Our back yard is a jungle already. Snakes, skunks, raccoons, possum,
>coyotes, squirrels, scrub jays, hummers, junkoes (sp?), feral cats,
>wild parrots, giant ravens.
>
>A wild turkey has been spotted down in the village.

Not so bad here, snails, and now mosquitos in swarms in the evening
And cats

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:35:54 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

>On 4/19/2022 17:20, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
>>> It will go on forever.
>>>
>>> The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
>>> doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.
>>>
>>> These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
>>> They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
>>> continue fighting.
>>>
>>> Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
>>> behind Putin’s Ukraine War:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
>>>
>>> Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
>>> Russian'
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs
>>
>> This is a great fork in history. Russia could crush Ukraine, hunker
>> down, absorb more small countries, isolate itself from the rest of
>> civilization, brain drain all its talent and morality, and stay poor
>> and barbaric for another 50 years.
>>
>> Or they could disappear Putin and become european.
>>
>>
>>
>
>They have too many nukes for the world to allow them to stay a
>North Korea 2.0 for such a long time (they already are that, only
>the fat Kim unlike Putin has the brains not to put his country
>at war with the rest of the world).

The problem is "allow".

NATO doesn't look like it will engage in a surface war.

>This has to be resolved one way or another, whatever the cost.

The only reasonable thing for the west to do is make it clear that
there will be absolute economic isolation and asset seizure for as
long as russia occupies ukraine. Decades if necessary.

Europeans need to start fracking.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On 4/19/2022 19:41, John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:35:54 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/19/2022 17:20, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
>>>> It will go on forever.
>>>>
>>>> The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
>>>> doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.
>>>>
>>>> These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
>>>> They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
>>>> continue fighting.
>>>>
>>>> Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
>>>> behind Putin’s Ukraine War:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
>>>>
>>>> Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
>>>> Russian'
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs
>>>
>>> This is a great fork in history. Russia could crush Ukraine, hunker
>>> down, absorb more small countries, isolate itself from the rest of
>>> civilization, brain drain all its talent and morality, and stay poor
>>> and barbaric for another 50 years.
>>>
>>> Or they could disappear Putin and become european.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> They have too many nukes for the world to allow them to stay a
>> North Korea 2.0 for such a long time (they already are that, only
>> the fat Kim unlike Putin has the brains not to put his country
>> at war with the rest of the world).
>
> The problem is "allow".
>
> NATO doesn't look like it will engage in a surface war.

No, the chance it will go all out nuclear is almost a certainty at
the moment.

>
>> This has to be resolved one way or another, whatever the cost.
>
> The only reasonable thing for the west to do is make it clear that
> there will be absolute economic isolation and asset seizure for as
> long as russia occupies ukraine. Decades if necessary.
>
> Europeans need to start fracking.
>

Europeans need to do whatever it takes to stop buying anything
from Russia. Faster - even of this means blackouts and painful
economical loss. I am thinking of buying a generator here... just 2-3
kW, life without electricity for me would be 100% pointless, never
mind the difficult side of it. May be I have to get something
I can adapt to a steam engine which I can run on wood I can gather,
don't know how to get a plutonium cell to boil the water :).

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:26:05 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

>On 4/19/2022 19:41, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:35:54 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/19/2022 17:20, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
>>>>> It will go on forever.
>>>>>
>>>>> The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
>>>>> doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.
>>>>>
>>>>> These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
>>>>> They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
>>>>> continue fighting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
>>>>> behind Putin’s Ukraine War:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
>>>>>
>>>>> Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
>>>>> Russian'
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs
>>>>
>>>> This is a great fork in history. Russia could crush Ukraine, hunker
>>>> down, absorb more small countries, isolate itself from the rest of
>>>> civilization, brain drain all its talent and morality, and stay poor
>>>> and barbaric for another 50 years.
>>>>
>>>> Or they could disappear Putin and become european.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> They have too many nukes for the world to allow them to stay a
>>> North Korea 2.0 for such a long time (they already are that, only
>>> the fat Kim unlike Putin has the brains not to put his country
>>> at war with the rest of the world).
>>
>> The problem is "allow".
>>
>> NATO doesn't look like it will engage in a surface war.
>
>No, the chance it will go all out nuclear is almost a certainty at
>the moment.
>
>>
>>> This has to be resolved one way or another, whatever the cost.
>>
>> The only reasonable thing for the west to do is make it clear that
>> there will be absolute economic isolation and asset seizure for as
>> long as russia occupies ukraine. Decades if necessary.
>>
>> Europeans need to start fracking.
>>
>
>Europeans need to do whatever it takes to stop buying anything
>from Russia. Faster - even of this means blackouts and painful
>economical loss. I am thinking of buying a generator here... just 2-3
>kW, life without electricity for me would be 100% pointless, never
>mind the difficult side of it. May be I have to get something
>I can adapt to a steam engine which I can run on wood I can gather,
>don't know how to get a plutonium cell to boil the water :).

Germany needs to revive its coal and nuke power plants, or freeze and
de-industrialize.

There's still lots of fuel under the North Sea. More exploring seems
to find more stuff.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
wrote:

>The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
>It will go on forever.

Nope. Methinks it's an economic war. Russia just finished building
an $11 billion offshore natural gas pipeline to Germany primarily to
bypass transit charges for the existing pipelines crossing Ukraine.

"The Engineering Behind Russia's Deadlocked Pipeline: Nord Stream 2"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzibtVSamrY>

As the process of certifying the pipeline blundered forward, the
stumbling block seemed to be getting approval by various countries
which stood to lose transit revenue for existing pipelines:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream#Regulatory_clearance>

"Russia-Ukraine gas disputes"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_disputes>

It seems to be an amazing coincidence that Russia would invade Ukraine
just after certification negotiations were going too slow. Just
connect the (pipeline) dots and follow the money:
<https://mondediplo.com/IMG/jpg/lmd_0521_13_gazoducs_rgb.jpg>
Maps with much more detail:
<http://www.entsog.eu/maps#transmission-capacity-map-2021>

"When somebody says it’s not about the money, it’s about the money."
H. L. Mencken

--
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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 4/19/2022 20:39, John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:26:05 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/19/2022 19:41, John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:35:54 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/19/2022 17:20, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
>>>>>> It will go on forever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
>>>>>> doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
>>>>>> They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
>>>>>> continue fighting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
>>>>>> behind Putin’s Ukraine War:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
>>>>>> Russian'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a great fork in history. Russia could crush Ukraine, hunker
>>>>> down, absorb more small countries, isolate itself from the rest of
>>>>> civilization, brain drain all its talent and morality, and stay poor
>>>>> and barbaric for another 50 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or they could disappear Putin and become european.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They have too many nukes for the world to allow them to stay a
>>>> North Korea 2.0 for such a long time (they already are that, only
>>>> the fat Kim unlike Putin has the brains not to put his country
>>>> at war with the rest of the world).
>>>
>>> The problem is "allow".
>>>
>>> NATO doesn't look like it will engage in a surface war.
>>
>> No, the chance it will go all out nuclear is almost a certainty at
>> the moment.
>>
>>>
>>>> This has to be resolved one way or another, whatever the cost.
>>>
>>> The only reasonable thing for the west to do is make it clear that
>>> there will be absolute economic isolation and asset seizure for as
>>> long as russia occupies ukraine. Decades if necessary.
>>>
>>> Europeans need to start fracking.
>>>
>>
>> Europeans need to do whatever it takes to stop buying anything
>>from Russia. Faster - even of this means blackouts and painful
>> economical loss. I am thinking of buying a generator here... just 2-3
>> kW, life without electricity for me would be 100% pointless, never
>> mind the difficult side of it. May be I have to get something
>> I can adapt to a steam engine which I can run on wood I can gather,
>> don't know how to get a plutonium cell to boil the water :).
>
> Germany needs to revive its coal and nuke power plants, or freeze and
> de-industrialize.

It does. And they need to build some more nuclear plants so coal can be
phased out.

> There's still lots of fuel under the North Sea. More exploring seems
> to find more stuff.
>

Perhaps, but gas and petrol are short term solutions anyway. Since
the EU (and the world) needs to do something about producing less
smoke going seriously nuclear looks like the only viable option.
Sort of like the French have done it. The main brake against nuclear
has been the fear that waste can fall in the wrong hands to build
weapons from (not the pollution nonsense the media spread for the
masses). So more spectrometry gadgets will be needed... the steam
engine I hope to build in my backyard won't come for free :D.

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:29:33 PM UTC-4, Dimiter Popoff wrote:
> On 4/19/2022 20:39, John Larkin wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:26:05 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/19/2022 19:41, John Larkin wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:35:54 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 4/19/2022 17:20, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spa...@not.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
> >>>>>> It will go on forever.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
> >>>>>> doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
> >>>>>> They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
> >>>>>> continue fighting.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
> >>>>>> behind Putin’s Ukraine War:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
> >>>>>> Russian'
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is a great fork in history. Russia could crush Ukraine, hunker
> >>>>> down, absorb more small countries, isolate itself from the rest of
> >>>>> civilization, brain drain all its talent and morality, and stay poor
> >>>>> and barbaric for another 50 years.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Or they could disappear Putin and become european.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> They have too many nukes for the world to allow them to stay a
> >>>> North Korea 2.0 for such a long time (they already are that, only
> >>>> the fat Kim unlike Putin has the brains not to put his country
> >>>> at war with the rest of the world).
> >>>
> >>> The problem is "allow".
> >>>
> >>> NATO doesn't look like it will engage in a surface war.
> >>
> >> No, the chance it will go all out nuclear is almost a certainty at
> >> the moment.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> This has to be resolved one way or another, whatever the cost.
> >>>
> >>> The only reasonable thing for the west to do is make it clear that
> >>> there will be absolute economic isolation and asset seizure for as
> >>> long as russia occupies ukraine. Decades if necessary.
> >>>
> >>> Europeans need to start fracking.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Europeans need to do whatever it takes to stop buying anything
> >>from Russia. Faster - even of this means blackouts and painful
> >> economical loss. I am thinking of buying a generator here... just 2-3
> >> kW, life without electricity for me would be 100% pointless, never
> >> mind the difficult side of it. May be I have to get something
> >> I can adapt to a steam engine which I can run on wood I can gather,
> >> don't know how to get a plutonium cell to boil the water :).
> >
> > Germany needs to revive its coal and nuke power plants, or freeze and
> > de-industrialize.
> It does. And they need to build some more nuclear plants so coal can be
> phased out.
> > There's still lots of fuel under the North Sea. More exploring seems
> > to find more stuff.
> >
> Perhaps, but gas and petrol are short term solutions anyway. Since
> the EU (and the world) needs to do something about producing less
> smoke going seriously nuclear looks like the only viable option.
> Sort of like the French have done it. The main brake against nuclear
> has been the fear that waste can fall in the wrong hands to build
> weapons from (not the pollution nonsense the media spread for the
> masses). So more spectrometry gadgets will be needed... the steam
> engine I hope to build in my backyard won't come for free :D.

Don't turn to the French for nuclear. They can't seem to build a nuke for less than $20 billion these days and it will be a decade late in commissioning. Their nuclear projects are mostly disasters.

The big problem with nuclear energy is the massive up front costs that make it very hard to tell if you will ever turn a profit. All new projects seem to be built under contracts that require a utility to pay for the electricity rather than letting the market decide. This is going to cause big problems for anyone who builds much nuclear power these days. Well, unless you are the Chinese who cut corners and don't operate with the same level of concern for safety.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/edf-says-partners-must-decide-taishan-reactor-shutdown-2021-07-22/

https://xkcd.com/2278/

Where is Dave Barry when you need him? Or Al Capp for that matter?

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On 4/19/22 08:27, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 14:54:10 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On a sunny day (Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:20:32 -0700) it happened
>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>> <71ht5h1pk8t8eve6cj4jmir45n50ebr6pg@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
>>>> It will go on forever.
>>>>
>>>> The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
>>>> doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.
>>>>
>>>> These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
>>>> They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
>>>> continue fighting.
>>>>
>>>> Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
>>>> behind Putin’s Ukraine War:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
>>>>
>>>> Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
>>>> Russian'
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs
>>>
>>> This is a great fork in history. Russia could crush Ukraine, hunker
>>> down, absorb more small countries, isolate itself from the rest of
>>> civilization, brain drain all its talent and morality, and stay poor
>>> and barbaric for another 50 years.
>>>
>>> Or they could disappear Putin and become european.
>>
>> Or they could nuke US and divide it up between China for the east part and Russia for the west part
>> FYI.
>
> That would aguably be historic too.
>
>>
>> All that is required to trigger that is when byethen mistakes his red button for his toasters's.
>> Or maybe they will make the whole US an animal reserve.
>> Does not take much work...
>
> Our back yard is a jungle already. Snakes, skunks, raccoons, possum,
> coyotes, squirrels, scrub jays, hummers, junkoes (sp?), feral cats,
> wild parrots, giant ravens.
>
> A wild turkey has been spotted down in the village.
>
>
>
>
A wild turkey? Was it's name Gavin something-or-other? :-)

tirsdag den 19. april 2022 kl. 21.04.07 UTC+2 skrev Ricky:
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:29:33 PM UTC-4, Dimiter Popoff wrote:
> > On 4/19/2022 20:39, John Larkin wrote:
> > > On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:26:05 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 4/19/2022 19:41, John Larkin wrote:
> > >>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:35:54 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 4/19/2022 17:20, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> > >>>>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spa...@not..com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
> > >>>>>> It will go on forever.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
> > >>>>>> doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
> > >>>>>> They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
> > >>>>>> continue fighting.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
> > >>>>>> behind Putin’s Ukraine War:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
> > >>>>>> Russian'
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This is a great fork in history. Russia could crush Ukraine, hunker
> > >>>>> down, absorb more small countries, isolate itself from the rest of
> > >>>>> civilization, brain drain all its talent and morality, and stay poor
> > >>>>> and barbaric for another 50 years.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Or they could disappear Putin and become european.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They have too many nukes for the world to allow them to stay a
> > >>>> North Korea 2.0 for such a long time (they already are that, only
> > >>>> the fat Kim unlike Putin has the brains not to put his country
> > >>>> at war with the rest of the world).
> > >>>
> > >>> The problem is "allow".
> > >>>
> > >>> NATO doesn't look like it will engage in a surface war.
> > >>
> > >> No, the chance it will go all out nuclear is almost a certainty at
> > >> the moment.
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>> This has to be resolved one way or another, whatever the cost.
> > >>>
> > >>> The only reasonable thing for the west to do is make it clear that
> > >>> there will be absolute economic isolation and asset seizure for as
> > >>> long as russia occupies ukraine. Decades if necessary.
> > >>>
> > >>> Europeans need to start fracking.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Europeans need to do whatever it takes to stop buying anything
> > >>from Russia. Faster - even of this means blackouts and painful
> > >> economical loss. I am thinking of buying a generator here... just 2-3
> > >> kW, life without electricity for me would be 100% pointless, never
> > >> mind the difficult side of it. May be I have to get something
> > >> I can adapt to a steam engine which I can run on wood I can gather,
> > >> don't know how to get a plutonium cell to boil the water :).
> > >
> > > Germany needs to revive its coal and nuke power plants, or freeze and
> > > de-industrialize.
> > It does. And they need to build some more nuclear plants so coal can be
> > phased out.
> > > There's still lots of fuel under the North Sea. More exploring seems
> > > to find more stuff.
> > >
> > Perhaps, but gas and petrol are short term solutions anyway. Since
> > the EU (and the world) needs to do something about producing less
> > smoke going seriously nuclear looks like the only viable option.
> > Sort of like the French have done it. The main brake against nuclear
> > has been the fear that waste can fall in the wrong hands to build
> > weapons from (not the pollution nonsense the media spread for the
> > masses). So more spectrometry gadgets will be needed... the steam
> > engine I hope to build in my backyard won't come for free :D.
> Don't turn to the French for nuclear. They can't seem to build a nuke for less than $20 billion these days and it will be a decade late in commissioning. Their nuclear projects are mostly disasters.
>

yeh, only 56 reactors and producing +70% of the country's electricity ...

On 4/19/22 10:47, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
>> It will go on forever.
>
> Nope. Methinks it's an economic war. Russia just finished building
> an $11 billion offshore natural gas pipeline to Germany primarily to
> bypass transit charges for the existing pipelines crossing Ukraine.
>
> "The Engineering Behind Russia's Deadlocked Pipeline: Nord Stream 2"
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzibtVSamrY>
>
> As the process of certifying the pipeline blundered forward, the
> stumbling block seemed to be getting approval by various countries
> which stood to lose transit revenue for existing pipelines:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream#Regulatory_clearance>
>
> "Russia-Ukraine gas disputes"
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_disputes>
>
> It seems to be an amazing coincidence that Russia would invade Ukraine
> just after certification negotiations were going too slow. Just
> connect the (pipeline) dots and follow the money:
> <https://mondediplo.com/IMG/jpg/lmd_0521_13_gazoducs_rgb.jpg>
> Maps with much more detail:
> <http://www.entsog.eu/maps#transmission-capacity-map-2021>
>
> "When somebody says it’s not about the money, it’s about the money."
> H. L. Mencken
>
>
Isn't there supposed to be a huge natural gas reservoir under Eastern
Ukraine? Another amazing coincidence!

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 3:16:45 PM UTC-4, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
> tirsdag den 19. april 2022 kl. 21.04.07 UTC+2 skrev Ricky:
> > On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:29:33 PM UTC-4, Dimiter Popoff wrote:
> > > On 4/19/2022 20:39, John Larkin wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:26:05 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 4/19/2022 19:41, John Larkin wrote:
> > > >>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:35:54 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On 4/19/2022 17:20, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 05:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spa...@not.com>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
> > > >>>>>> It will go on forever.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
> > > >>>>>> doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
> > > >>>>>> They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
> > > >>>>>> continue fighting.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
> > > >>>>>> behind Putin’s Ukraine War:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
> > > >>>>>> Russian'
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> This is a great fork in history. Russia could crush Ukraine, hunker
> > > >>>>> down, absorb more small countries, isolate itself from the rest of
> > > >>>>> civilization, brain drain all its talent and morality, and stay poor
> > > >>>>> and barbaric for another 50 years.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Or they could disappear Putin and become european.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> They have too many nukes for the world to allow them to stay a
> > > >>>> North Korea 2.0 for such a long time (they already are that, only
> > > >>>> the fat Kim unlike Putin has the brains not to put his country
> > > >>>> at war with the rest of the world).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The problem is "allow".
> > > >>>
> > > >>> NATO doesn't look like it will engage in a surface war.
> > > >>
> > > >> No, the chance it will go all out nuclear is almost a certainty at
> > > >> the moment.
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> This has to be resolved one way or another, whatever the cost.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The only reasonable thing for the west to do is make it clear that
> > > >>> there will be absolute economic isolation and asset seizure for as
> > > >>> long as russia occupies ukraine. Decades if necessary.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Europeans need to start fracking.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Europeans need to do whatever it takes to stop buying anything
> > > >>from Russia. Faster - even of this means blackouts and painful
> > > >> economical loss. I am thinking of buying a generator here... just 2-3
> > > >> kW, life without electricity for me would be 100% pointless, never
> > > >> mind the difficult side of it. May be I have to get something
> > > >> I can adapt to a steam engine which I can run on wood I can gather,
> > > >> don't know how to get a plutonium cell to boil the water :).
> > > >
> > > > Germany needs to revive its coal and nuke power plants, or freeze and
> > > > de-industrialize.
> > > It does. And they need to build some more nuclear plants so coal can be
> > > phased out.
> > > > There's still lots of fuel under the North Sea. More exploring seems
> > > > to find more stuff.
> > > >
> > > Perhaps, but gas and petrol are short term solutions anyway. Since
> > > the EU (and the world) needs to do something about producing less
> > > smoke going seriously nuclear looks like the only viable option.
> > > Sort of like the French have done it. The main brake against nuclear
> > > has been the fear that waste can fall in the wrong hands to build
> > > weapons from (not the pollution nonsense the media spread for the
> > > masses). So more spectrometry gadgets will be needed... the steam
> > > engine I hope to build in my backyard won't come for free :D.
> > Don't turn to the French for nuclear. They can't seem to build a nuke for less than $20 billion these days and it will be a decade late in commissioning. Their nuclear projects are mostly disasters.
> >
> yeh, only 56 reactors and producing +70% of the country's electricity ...

Yes, reactors that were mostly built 40 or 50 years ago. Why aren't they building the same design? Why can't they repeat their earlier success? Inquiring minds want to know!

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On 2022-04-19 21:16, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> tirsdag den 19. april 2022 kl. 21.04.07 UTC+2 skrev Ricky:
[...]

>> Don't turn to the French for nuclear. They can't seem to build a
>> nuke for less than $20 billion these days and it will be a decade
>> late in commissioning. Their nuclear projects are mostly
>> disasters.
>>
>
> yeh, only 56 reactors and producing +70% of the country's electricity
> ...
>

The reason it's so hard to make new ones these days is the crippling
regulatory environment. My work also involves radioactive stuff.
We're so bogged down it's hard to get anything done at all.

Of course, it's all for our own and the public's safety. You can't
criticize that or you'll be deemed irresponsible.

It's almost funny. I *know* we all get a daily dose of ~10uSv, just
from the ordinary environment, but the extra few hundred nSv I
occasionally get from working on slightly radioactive stuff seems
to justify lots of extra rules, lots of paperwork, regular
inspections, special labs and protective gear. Granted, those are
sometimes necessary, but sheesh, a bit of common sense would be
welcome. A few uSv extra on occasion aren't going to make a
difference!

Jeroen Belleman

Actually it's to do with AGGRESSIVE NATO expansion to Russia's border
countries, since the end of the Cold War when Russia gave up those countries.

That war could have easily been prevented if not for the overinflated egos
in Ukraine. Pride comes before the fall.

Ukraine needs to HUMBLE itself, declare itself NEUTRAL, and stop bombing
Russia-sympathetic people in Ukraine.

As far as support from Americans goes... It's all about the New World
Order, neocons and liberals' newfound love (apparently centering on hatred
for Trump), and the bizarre claim that Ukraine is The Holy Land.

Ukraine worked hard to elect Hillary Clinton, against Trump, in 2016. Like
the Ukrainian parliament member said right there in a YouTube video...

"We fight for this New World Order"

https://youtu.be/lD4OP-cPgQo?t=106

It's all about imperialism and warmongering. We just got out of
Afghanistan 7 months ago and the warmongers are beating the war drums
again.

World War III is where we are heading. The destruction of marriage is
leading to the fall of civilization. At this point in human history, that
means dire consequence. But, apparently this, or what is to come in the
not-too-distant future, was predicted. I think we will end up with a one
world government before everything falls apart. When there is nowhere to
run, that is when they will put the real squeeze on ordinary people.

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> The Ukraine war is a spiritual war. Spiritual wars are the most dangerous.
> It will go on forever.
>
> The birthplace of the Russian Orthodoxy is Kyiv, and Putin wants it back. It
> doesn't matter how many tanks he loses, or how many Russians are killed.
>
> These matter in material wars, but spiritual wars are completely different.
> They are not rational. Russia will find ways to get around the sanctions and
> continue fighting.
>
> Patriarch Kirill, A Former KGB Spy and Spiritual Guru is the driving force
> behind Putin's Ukraine War:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5_GvssAw0
>
> Pride, patriotism and how Putin helped redefine what it means to be a 'true
> Russian'
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItwqPQVnBs
>
>
> --
> MRM
>
>

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:02:50 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t3n4ha$kst$3@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
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(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 57.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1067 articles to USENET. Of which 125 have been pure insults and
486 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

sWYa/ReN4we/

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 3:55:18 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
> On 2022-04-19 21:16, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> > tirsdag den 19. april 2022 kl. 21.04.07 UTC+2 skrev Ricky:
> [...]
> >> Don't turn to the French for nuclear. They can't seem to build a
> >> nuke for less than $20 billion these days and it will be a decade
> >> late in commissioning. Their nuclear projects are mostly
> >> disasters.
> >>
> >
> > yeh, only 56 reactors and producing +70% of the country's electricity
> > ...
> >
> The reason it's so hard to make new ones these days is the crippling
> regulatory environment.

This is the BS that so many advocate, without any basis.

> My work also involves radioactive stuff.
> We're so bogged down it's hard to get anything done at all.
>
> Of course, it's all for our own and the public's safety. You can't
> criticize that or you'll be deemed irresponsible.
>
> It's almost funny. I *know* we all get a daily dose of ~10uSv, just
> from the ordinary environment, but the extra few hundred nSv I
> occasionally get from working on slightly radioactive stuff seems
> to justify lots of extra rules, lots of paperwork, regular
> inspections, special labs and protective gear. Granted, those are
> sometimes necessary, but sheesh, a bit of common sense would be
> welcome. A few uSv extra on occasion aren't going to make a
> difference!

Sure, but the regulations are to prevent a much larger dose. They may be a bit overboard, but you talk like you literally can't get your work done. Then you say it is "sometimes" necessary! "The lady doth protest too much, methinks".

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Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That's a no-no here, Eddie!

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
John Doe <always.look@message.header> (astraweb)
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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> The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
>
> And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
>> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
>> CLUELESS...
>
> And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
> incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:02:50 -0000
> (UTC) in message-id <t3n4ha$kst$3@dont-email.me>.
>
> Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
> <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
> (UTC):
>
>> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
>> except insults to this group.
>
> Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
> USENET (**) has been 57.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except
> insults" to USENET.
>
> ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
> least 1067 articles to USENET. Of which 125 have been pure insults and
> 486 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.
>
> This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
> readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
> follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.
>
> sWYa/ReN4we/
>
>
>

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:26:06 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t3n5su$kst$4@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 57.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1070 articles to USENET. Of which 125 have been pure insults and
488 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

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